Being a man of few words (heh, yeah righ} I'll reply to this only to give my point of view.
No more, No less.
I don't think so. Lawmakers who support the draconian DRM measures will be voted out of office, and they will be replaced with more citizen friendly policies.
Yes, but I give it 3 weeks before the new "citizen friendly" facade falls and the new one is bought or on both knees begging for bribes.
Laws that are passed which overstep the rights of citizens will be repealed by courts.
{snort, chuckle} Yeah, right. Past decade ='s IF, not when.
Users will choose not to purchase and use DRM protected media. (Remember DIVX?)
Good point. But you forget DIVX was not corpor^H^H^H^H^Hgovernment mandate/enforced/criminal offense. Big difference.
Savvy users will break the DRM Schemes and post the cracks to the net effectively destroying the technology.
True. But most are in jail. Slogging it out in the courts and losing to corrupt judges (2600 anyone? Judge worked for the MPAA to "dream up" this PoS we know as the DMCA {Digital Mafia Controlling America}).
DRM won't work. It has no benefits to end users, no one wants it and everyone will resist it. Its a bad idea, plain and simple.
One word reply: Microsoft.
Moose.
Windows XP: We KNOW Where YOU are GOING, Today, tomorrow and in the future. Don't leave town.
Bad Day, broken printers, powerfailures and Windows NT... 'nuff said.
On my machine where I used to work I tried the manual round to update redhat... I remember breaking a lot of stuff.
Humm...a slight quandry over what to do. as I have 3 *ell poweredges, all dualies, varying amts of memory. (New job, don't want to screw anything up) One runs the webserver, one the samba and powervault and one I just re-did is soon to be a win2k box for GIS stuff and SQL server (hope it can take the strain, think it might be just a single proc...damn).
Sigh, worse part is that RedHat is standing up against the SSSCA, but *IF* I redo the webserver and samba box I was leaning tword Slackware... Ack, technical and "moral" dilemma. (Error, Error....)
Anywho, after years of using and installing both, IMO mind you, Slackware if you want the flat out speed (shared libs) and RedHat (Mandrake too...nice installer, btw) for compatibility and ease of install and a few nifty utilities. {my own observations...some or no basis in reality...you decide}
(Side note-- tooting my own horn time: Had Slack, RH, BeOS, 98se and 2000 on one box, if that isn't computer abuse, dunno what is!)
Safest thing to do is back it up or do a disk dump/re-mirror the disk and see what happens. High "pucker factor" either way because as far as I can tell everything is running perfectly.
Moose.
Two worst things you can do in a position of authority:
1) change too much
2) change too little.
(how true, how very, very true)
Ouch...damn good analogy that made my hair stand up on end and sent a chill down my spine.
This deserves to be modded up because it is just beautiful in its simplicity and driving the point home.
History...condemned...repeat...get it?
I'd used the Boston Tea party as an example. From my old college history prof (Prof. Berwanger, IIRC.. Civil/Revolutionary war expert, too) drove the point home that not only was "Taxation w/o representation was a factor, but *Corporate Control* over the colonies and the *Government* that controlled those colonies.
We declared our freedom to be free of a two headed dragon... The Monarchy (sp?) and Corporations that would "take, take, take...and never give".
(random thought:
DMCA = Digital Mafia Controlling America?
/end RT)
Moose.
Don't swear...just say "la la laaaa"...you'll feel much better.
Say what you will, but to echo the statement:
"Thank you, RedHat".
Think back to a not so far era with MS wielding the DMCA over/.'s posters with the Kerbos fiasco.
Some of the trade rags were quoted as saying "Slashdot is the only (institution) one so far to have the cajones to say 'Go ahead, sue, we'll defend that suit'".
Well, RedHat is stepping up to the plate...hot damn. "We the people" need this because the lawmakers and representatives of the people are not listening to us, but to corporations.
If I am not mistaken, RedHat is a corporation, and can probably use the "We are the voice of reason" in an insane world (or something like that).
Really, I'm not joking... Think about all the "innovators, heretics, and *individual* the quintessential Great Minds" of our time.
The ones that went against the grain, conventions, accepted beliefs, morals of thier peers (and monarchs/rulers)...as a corporation...this is what RedHat is doing.
Ok, did anyone realize that windows 3.1 had a registry? Yes, it did. In the heady days of win 3.1, I found a text editor (shareware) that would, ironically, open up a 5Meg text file of MS's ftp site. (would note pad do it...oh, hell no).
Well, after figuring out that this text editor sucked, I un-installed it. Double clicked on a text file...shareware editor is not installed.
Associated it via the file manager... shitware editor is not installed, please re-install (ok, this is the exception, not the rule to winfile rules all).
Ok, so I write the programmer and bitch him out saying "WTF did you do to my machine?"
I de-installed your program and *IT REFUSES TO GO AWAY*.
Well the response was a walk thru into the registry to remove the association.
(he was offended by my language, but that was the point, however could not refute my claims of screwing up my machine...let me repeat *MY MACHINE*)
Back then the registry was just another idea to give *programmers control of machines* not the person who owned/used the fricking thing.
These were in the days when if a program, oh, say deleted critical dll's (like a solitare prog that would delete vbrun*.dll) if you fiddled with it or tried to fool it. Malicious intent, I believe it was called.
Yes, I know I can "right click, open with or drag and drop or drag a file from explorer, hover it over an open programs taskbar icon and drop it on the title bar {did you know about that one? probably not} to open the file". 1001 and one ways, same goddamn cat gets skinned over and over.
I know that, most of/. knows that...guess what, people...most people don't.
Case in point: 2 graphics artist I used to work with...one was a "mac veteran" the other a windows user, on a mac @ work... neither one knew you could drag a file (just about any) onto a program/alias(aka shortcut) and have it launch/open the file.
I was dumbfounded... the "newbie", ok, the "mac vet"... You're kidding.
Hell, 90% (and this is being kind) of the users I've run across will find a file in windows explorer and then run their program to open it and do the "File->open" and *renavigate* instead of double clicking on the *file*.
OMG... the shame, the shame...
I ask why? Why? the answer is usually along the lines of "that is what I know".
No matter how many times I show them the easy way...the always go back to what they know (right, wrong or indifferent).
(Sigh)
And what is even more appalling is the/.'ers are so far removed from the real world/ the 'trenches' / the 'average user' that they *conveniently forget* what being a newbie is about. It is about fear of the unknown, or at minimal, not knowing what to do and hoping for some guidance.
With mac's, it is there to an almost zealous extent.
Unix? there is some community nature, ignoring the RTFM's/flames... some one is usually helpful.
Windows? Hah! It is an *industry standard*, on 9X% of computer in the world...you should be *born* with the knowledge! Seems to be the opinion even from windows users themselves.
Yeah, mucking with extensions is not high treason.
But, we've been here before (at least I have).
Usability and Control over your own system (or that of the average user "we" seem to be wanting to protect and help and free from being a "slave to MS/dmca/sssca/riaa/mpaa" are the same one we are shunning with "they should know this..."
Tell me how many unix systems you could run from the CLI less than a year after birth?
Uh, huh.
I don't know all the answers, but dammit, some of us are trying to find the right questions.
Moose.
"You ain't pretty, and you ain't strong. So, dammit you better be *smart*.
Elenor Roosevelt's Mother to her daughter.
Heh, watch my own reply to a story I submitted be modded as a troll (Just kidding...kinda).
Have not seen anything posted about "iron fisted control" of MS extensions a la the windows file manager.
(side note: did not read very far, forgive me...600+ replies in ~3 hours. I love this place).
(Anywho) Just do a Start->run->winfile, then do a File->Associate and pick any extension and its program. The association will *never* be broken.
Heck, winfile is even in windows NT (IIRC) and supports LFN's oddly enuf. (not sure about win2k having winfile).
You see; the whole point of all this is:
A) we're geeks, we do this for a living and don't carry much "inertia" as it was put in the article.
Average users aren't going to know this stuff.
B) Hijacking of extensions by Microsoft (If my memory serves me properly,.doc was synonymous with *WORDPERFECT*, first) is only a minor foot note amongst all of the other "Bad Stuff"(TM) they have been convicted of. But, if anyone that "gets" the mind/market-share or memes (sp?) that leads to the "Bill Gates owns Apple" type of think (don't laff, I've heard it uttered before).
C) It is scary to think that with all these "minor" offenses coming into light, no on has thought of bringing it up in the current trial or even into a different trial(s) (or heck, more of them...yeah, I know, I want to smack me to for saying it, but bear with me, pls).
Reason being, unless remedies take care of things like this extension issue, bootloader issue, "me too'ism" like copyright violations, theft of IP, copyright theft ad infinitum... it ain't going to stop. It is like Kudzu, it is just going to "grow back" only much stronger/faster.
Think about it. Seriously, think about it. Unless Microsoft is brought to the brink from "death by a 1,000 cuts", the bad blood will still be there. Not like the current court case has done anything to modify their behavior.
6th Day was a good movie? Jesus ass tits christ whats wrong with you?
Ok, ok, I'm biased...I admit it, but as far as most of "Aaa-nolds" movies the 6th day was a good flic. Maybe not "terminator" calibre, but close enuf for me.
Moose.
Yeah, I responded to an AC...discussion is probably dead, so who cares.
"When the lights go down in the city" to all the people in California/Silicon valley.
(This is not a troll, if you don't get it that says more about you than it does me. It's meant to be funny...if it does not amuse you, then don't mod it up or mod it down.
"I was raised to belive there was *some* good in everyboday" Pacha in 'The Emp. New Groove'.
Unfortunately, recent/. moderators have proven me wrong...metamoderation rules, obvious trolls = agree, otherwise don't moderate or *disagree*)
Moose
PS. IF you've read the far, don't you agree it's sad when you have to put disclaimers up just trying to make a __JOKE__?
When moderators attack, tonite at 8pm.
(because you know darn well Intel'l lowest end proc available will be the 19.3333 celeron IV).
Moose.
(top 2 reasons to mod me up:
2) I'm funny, insightful and informative damnit
1)/.'s database will eventually lose every one of my +3 or higher posts, sooner or later when there is database cor*&^%@
People fear what they do not understand, and most people do not understand technology, encyption, CSS (style sheets and the encryption on DVD's).
And this is just regular people (J6P's et al) but the scary part is that it goest double if not triple for congress "critters"...simple fact is that most of these draconian laws are introduced and passed because the congress ppl don't understand technology and are out of touch (for the most part) with the people they represent.
Think about it for just a moment:
Your non-techno-smart friends (you do have them to remind you what ppl are like outside your niche, right?) don't know all the in's and out's of tech, much less the politics involved.
This is amplified much by congress ppl...
silence implies consent, ignorance is bliss and its not illegal/immoral until you are caught.
We've seen what congress/the judiciary/lawyers for or against (decss,napster, FITB) just don't get it regardless of defense/prosecution of laws such as the ATA/SSSCA/DMCA.
Will such a initiative work? Yes, but here is how to "better the cause" using the #'s to your/our advantage:
1) you know how those annoying virus messages (hoax, real) get to you by a # of FWD's...use some of those messages to further *this* cause...the more people see, the better (ignore the fact this is spambot snacks) and add your representatives email as the primary addressee and CC all the other people.
If even a measley 7% of/. readers do this this would make somone take notice.
(Low signal, high noise...but a skipping record/cd is similar and usually gets attended to in quick order...no?)
2) Write the letter (or get a "form letter" if your skills are as poor as mine at times) and sign, date, and address it to every rep. you can think of...do it a few times and if you get a form letter back, try a hand written letter.
tit for tat...if a hand written letter does not get attention by your rep, copy it to your local newspaper editor and imply "is anyone home in our rep's office?".
two to three % of/.'ers, tops...stir the hornets nest.
3) this is the best one yet: Take a day off or two (we are overworked, aren't we?), but, instead of marathon quake sessions go down to where your reps office or his/her's aides and camp out for a day or two. Try to get an appointment, or a word or at the very least a *hand delivered letter*.
And, once again, a "letter to the editor" to your local rag would be even better in this instance.
A "you mean this person is representing me and does not have the time/want to see me? taxation and passing laws w/o representation? have we BEEN here before?
Heh, I'm just the kind of person to do the 3rd.
A) I need a vacation, B) You know the phrase "there is one in every crowd"?/me extends his hand and says "hi, nice to meet you".
C) Stallman is right about standing up against an evil system. Heck, I used to work for the local paper...I know they can dish it out and can't take it...but this kind of thing the *feed on*.
John Kats and his bashers, admirers, and those who could care less. Why? Because it makes a *well rounded review*.
You see I've seen reviews/previews/trailers that hype a movie to death. Some live up, some don't.
So, what I rely on is many different opinions and this movie is no different.
Take Reindeer Games, for instance...from the reviews and trailers, well, it looked stupid as hell, but, I saw it on a recommendation from a few people at work...that was a *good* movie.
The Matrix, The usual suspects, long kiss goodnite and the 6th day were all along the same vein and IMO/IMR(eviews) are good flics.
Training day may be more like the Long Kiss Goodnite in that it is an excellent flic, with damn good acting but LKG got a little "soft" (for lack of a better word/thesaurs) for the last 15mins tword the end.
Did that ruin the movie? Nope. Forgivable? Yep.
I dunno, maybe critics are too critical. Heck, when I took my son to see shrek, I damn near busted a gut laughing...and I was the only one in the theatre that said "YEAH" real loud when the lady dragon ate the king...heh, I guess I'm a big kid:)
Well, if there were/was truth in advertising they'd be using names like Florida, Arizona, Death Valley...Hot, damn HOT.
But by the same token, Tbirds would be named like Vesuvius, Mt. Saint Helens...Just as hot but shorter lived.
Heh, didn't Tom's Hardware have the "If the heat sync falls off 'review'. Ouch.
AMD makes damn good chips, as does Intel (tho the P4 fails to impress me at all) but AMD needs to look into baking chips. Then again they are cheap enuf as long as nothing else goes with it.
Heat syncs, and die shrinks, and heat spreaders...oh MY!!
IMO heat sync tech is going to hit a brick wall and procs as well, until the "tweakers" tech of waterblocks and supercooling will become commanplace.
"Yeah, look how much faster she's run HP into the ground than anyone else would have been able to do.".
Heh, I was thinking the same thing...but you forget that Gil Amelio an J.L Gausse should be given a chance...just have to hit the reset button to bring HP back to its pre Carly dayz.
Oh, and IIRC Itanium == IA64, before *ntel bought the Alpha, the IA64 was not happening because of IP conflicts (disputes of some sort).
My memory may be fuzzy on the chain of events but it seems to home in on this:
IA64 can be read as "Intel's Alpha"64.
All your RISC are belong to us (yeah its a running gag, still funny at times...like here ya ninny)
"What Norman and other astrophysicists would like to learn is why star formation is so inefficient."
Hell, I could have told you that...this is "mother nature" at work, not a computer sim.
"she" does things in her own sweet time...
And look at the cooling specs...yikes. It should have been build in Alaska...outside...in winter.
Moose.
(fingers crossed this gets posted to the right forum...not like last time. Prolly serves me right...Used windows + ie + relaunch after an "internal error" + posting to/. heh)
Hey, I just noticed, maybe that is what I.E. stands for..."Internal Error"?
(somehow/. is on the fritz again, this wound up in the "high tech stamp" discussion... Thanks a lot Taco/mysql/whatever is responsible...anywho....)
Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it:
Abraham Lincoln, on his deathbed no less, warned us against corporations having anything to do with government. If I recall correctly he is one to have mentioned the phrase "unseen hands".
These "unseen hands" are busy doing "much seen damage" to US citizens and the world as well.
The Boston Tea party (eventually leading to the Revolutionary War) was caused by *CORPORATIONS* exerting excessive control over the colonies *WITH* "government/dictatorial" power and concent.
I don't know how I can spell out these parallels any clearer. With all the "Going Forward" and "looking tword the future" and other assorted buzzword/market speak *we or more specifically **lawmakers** * are forgetting the past and the history of what makes this country great.
In my cynicism, the term "expert" means to me someone who is never consulted on an important decision until it is too late and FUBAR.
This seems to be the case with the DMCA and now the SSSCA.
I hate to be the first one to say it, but history is repeating itself, and I wonder how long until the next "revolution" of sorts, or blatent *lawbreaking/violent/civil disobedience* protest comes about. Sept. 11 stirred the hornets, but where will then anger go if bin Laden is not found, but the *violations* of our rights continues so we are no better off than those we are pursuing?
Points to ponder, I assure you, think about it.
"...and I think we've seen that movie too.." GnR.
My question is this:
The pressure is building, we are pissing off other great nations at a rate >= the # of allies.
How do we keep ourselves free from "digital slavery" w/o handing over the keys to the first of our enemies that figures out our future "hardware backdoors"? What does the SSSCA accoplish in the first place? The DMCA As well!
Simple question: What *GOOD* have these laws done for the *American People*?!
I've asked the question nobody has asked, what is the answer?
Moose.
The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one. The public domain is almost empty, folks. Microsoft's future motto will soon be "All your IP/Prior Art are belong to us".
and
The DMCA, not deCSS, is a "Digita Crowbar" that is bludgeoning the rights of the Americans with stunning speed wielded by "unseen hands".
/., Taco, whoever does QA... Something is WRONG Y'all, I posted my comment to this Discussion:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/04/1849 20 3&mode=flat
and it wound up here.
ARUGH!!!
Moose.
Sheesh, second time I've lost karma to./ fsck-ups. (sigh)
Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it:
Abraham Lincoln, on his deathbed no less, warned us against corporations having anything to do with government. If I recall correctly he is one to have mentioned the phrase "unseen hands".
These "unseen hands" are busy doing "much seen damage" to US citizens and the world as well.
The Boston Tea party (eventually leading to the Revolutionary War) was caused by *CORPORATIONS* exerting excessive control over the colonies *WITH* "government/dictatorial" power and concent.
I don't know how I can spell out these parallels any clearer. With all the "Going Forward" and "looking tword the future" and other assorted buzzword/market speak *we or more specifically **lawmakers** * are forgetting the past and the history of what makes this country great.
In my cynicism, the term "expert" means to me someone who is never consulted on an important decision until it is too late and FUBAR.
This seems to be the case with the DMCA and now the SSSCA.
I hate to be the first one to say it, but history is repeating itself, and I wonder how long until the next "revolution" of sorts, or blatent *lawbreaking/violent/civil disobedience* protest comes about. Sept. 11 stirred the hornets, but where will then anger go if bin Laden is not found, but the *violations* of our rights continues so we are no better off than those we are pursuing?
Points to ponder, I assure you, think about it.
"...and I think we've seen that movie too.." GnR.
My question is this:
The pressure is building, we are pissing off other great nations at a rate >= the # of allies.
How do we keep ourselves free from "digital slavery" w/o handing over the keys to the first of our enemies that figures out our future "hardware backdoors"? What does the SSSCA accoplish in the first place? The DMCA As well!
Simple question: What *GOOD* have these laws done for the *American People*?!
I've asked the question nobody has asked, what is the answer?
Moose.
The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one. The public domain is almost empty, folks. Microsoft's future motto will soon be "All your IP/Prior Art are belong to us".
and
The DMCA, not deCSS, is a "Digita Crowbar" that is bludgeoning the rights of the Americans with stunning speed wielded by "unseen hands".
/me pulls the pin out of the grenade, tosses it into a room and keeps on trucking.... figurativly speaking, of course.
"You apparently don't have much experience with Solaris either."
No, dammit, but I am trying. The fact that I *gasp! asked for help* from people on campus who are !payed! to help but don't, speaks volumes about me/them. Oh, yea, and attempting to install BSD on an Ultra10 I *inhereted*. Read the docs on installing BSD on sparcs...they spell it out as a *FSCKING PITA*. Call me a sado-masochist or call me a *TECH*...same same.
Oh, yeah, and when I Installed win2000 server on an old power-edge...I thought, well, I don't have all the additional s/w I need so IIS is not needed at this time...guess what? Nimda was taking down IIS boxes all over campus that day **less than 2 HOURS later**.
heh.
"If you're too cheap to pay the measly amount for a maintenance agreement".
HAHAHAHA...If I was too cheap to buy sun and pay the maint....I'd be using older hard ware and installing *windows NT/2000* or maybe linux? Get over yourself and drop the attitude.
Oh and while we're at it, your arguments about buying more expensive hardware sound vaguely familiar....let's see...oh, yeah...something mac zealots have been saying for the same amount of time I'd bet.
Ok, maybe I should get over myself as well because you do have a point, I admit.
' You get what you pay for ' in essence.
Well, Microsoft will lock you in via software and solutions.
Sun (and mac) lock you in via hardware *and* software to some extent.
Want to upgrade? Only options with sun/mac is a whole freaking new set of boxes more expensive than the last 'solution'.
Save some of the seeds from your money tree and give them to us poor bastards that have to make due on *budgets*.
Moose.
Please note this is not flamebait. Only diff between flamebait and insightful is the willingness to see the other side.
Dude has a point, but not all of us have $$$ thrown at us on an hourly basis.
after seeing "I wonder if I can get titanium plating"...well, yes.
A Ti power book, a dremel tool and a little time invested.
Yeah, I know it's stupid, but the irony of this passing thought was "well, maybe the airport card built in will finally be able to transmit over 3 feet".
heh.
Moose.
Disclaimer:
"the above paragraphs are know to contain sarcasm and humor. These combinations are known, in the state of California to cause confusion in most readers"
MOL and Vmware are very similar from what I have read and taken in.
Both do thier jobs admirably of "simulation of hardware" not emulation (of hardware/software).
From the initial description of VMware I got an entirely different picture from what it actually is. I was impressed with how well it functions but disappointed that it was not as I anticipated from the description given.
Let me explain:
From the initial description of VMware, as it relates to MOL topic, this was what VMW was presented as.
Hardware -> VMware -> OS's.
What it really is:
Hardware -> OS(1) -> VMware -> OS(2) {repeat from the VM for additional os's).
Now realize that this is not emulation, per se, it is a java concept of a "sand box" where the host os runs the guest os.
This is fine on a Multi-tasking os because it runs like any other application.
The problem with something like Virtual pc is the multitasking abilities of OS 8/9 are less than adequate if not inadequate because it is emulation + hardware abstraction.
MOL has the advantage because the host OS is more than adequate and just has to do the hardware abstraction portion.
Maybe I am asking too much, but, what I am looking for (making up my own acronym) a H.O.S, or Hardware OS, like my impression from VMware's initial description.
(computer/hardware -> HOS -> OS's.)
(interesting part above, funny part below)
I suppose I just want to beat a dead HOS, but no such animal exists yet.
(token flamebait below)
Now would someone please port LILO to mac?
The Open Firmware on Macs/Suns is maddening enough to deal with and dinking with bootX made LILO look like a piece of cake.
(/end token flamebait)
(token Offtopic below)
Being modded down as a troll for a funny/sarcastic remark... now that's funny.
To steal TWR's.sig "go ahead, mod me down, you're still an idiot." proved there are some really insightful sigs floating around.
(/end OT)
Moose.
learn to read body language, for the words may be "I won't hurt you" the posture may say "go ahead, make my DAY!"
Slashdot Mirror
I thought that is why we have slashdot?
(heh)
Moose.
for the humor impaired, this place is a loudspeaker/soap box/forum etc, etc.
Being a man of few words (heh, yeah righ} I'll reply to this only to give my point of view.
No more, No less.
I don't think so. Lawmakers who support the draconian DRM measures will be voted out of office, and they will be replaced with more citizen friendly policies.
Yes, but I give it 3 weeks before the new "citizen friendly" facade falls and the new one is bought or on both knees begging for bribes.
Laws that are passed which overstep the rights of citizens will be repealed by courts.
{snort, chuckle} Yeah, right. Past decade ='s IF, not when.
Users will choose not to purchase and use DRM protected media. (Remember DIVX?)
Good point. But you forget DIVX was not corpor^H^H^H^H^Hgovernment mandate/enforced/criminal offense. Big difference.
Savvy users will break the DRM Schemes and post the cracks to the net effectively destroying the technology.
True. But most are in jail. Slogging it out in the courts and losing to corrupt judges (2600 anyone? Judge worked for the MPAA to "dream up" this PoS we know as the DMCA {Digital Mafia Controlling America}).
DRM won't work. It has no benefits to end users, no one wants it and everyone will resist it. Its a bad idea, plain and simple.
One word reply: Microsoft.
Moose.
Windows XP: We KNOW Where YOU are GOING, Today, tomorrow and in the future. Don't leave town.
Bad Day, broken printers, powerfailures and Windows NT... 'nuff said.
Pot calling the kettle black..
.com vs established monopoly.
no, napster was never in control.
Horse of a different color?
No,
Shoe's on the other foot?
Kinda.
The shoe's on the horse's other foot for calling the kettle black?
Yeah, uh-huh.
Remember kids, only you can prevent metafires.
score: +1 interesting, +1 funny +3 dumbass.
{laff...snort}
Moose.
Sorry, not trolling, just need to go to bed..
You wrote: Microsoft(R) BootLoader XP,
I thought you said: Microsoft(R) ButtLoader XP
(Bwahahahah...{sniff}..hehehehe, giggle...{sniff}...{chuckle}...{slaps own cheek.."stop that"}...{snort}.
Some may find that funny...especially the sleep deprived...
Moose.
I've removed the +1 bonus, hell this comment will stand or fall on its own merits.
'nite all.
Thanks for all the replies... definate maybe.
On my machine where I used to work I tried the manual round to update redhat... I remember breaking a lot of stuff.
Humm...a slight quandry over what to do. as I have 3 *ell poweredges, all dualies, varying amts of memory. (New job, don't want to screw anything up) One runs the webserver, one the samba and powervault and one I just re-did is soon to be a win2k box for GIS stuff and SQL server (hope it can take the strain, think it might be just a single proc...damn).
Sigh, worse part is that RedHat is standing up against the SSSCA, but *IF* I redo the webserver and samba box I was leaning tword Slackware... Ack, technical and "moral" dilemma. (Error, Error....)
Anywho, after years of using and installing both, IMO mind you, Slackware if you want the flat out speed (shared libs) and RedHat (Mandrake too...nice installer, btw) for compatibility and ease of install and a few nifty utilities. {my own observations...some or no basis in reality...you decide}
(Side note-- tooting my own horn time: Had Slack, RH, BeOS, 98se and 2000 on one box, if that isn't computer abuse, dunno what is!)
Safest thing to do is back it up or do a disk dump/re-mirror the disk and see what happens. High "pucker factor" either way because as far as I can tell everything is running perfectly.
Moose.
Two worst things you can do in a position of authority:
1) change too much
2) change too little.
(how true, how very, very true)
Ouch...damn good analogy that made my hair stand up on end and sent a chill down my spine.
This deserves to be modded up because it is just beautiful in its simplicity and driving the point home.
History...condemned...repeat...get it?
I'd used the Boston Tea party as an example. From my old college history prof (Prof. Berwanger, IIRC.. Civil/Revolutionary war expert, too) drove the point home that not only was "Taxation w/o representation was a factor, but *Corporate Control* over the colonies and the *Government* that controlled those colonies.
We declared our freedom to be free of a two headed dragon... The Monarchy (sp?) and Corporations that would "take, take, take...and never give".
(random thought:
DMCA = Digital Mafia Controlling America?
/end RT)
Moose.
Don't swear...just say "la la laaaa"...you'll feel much better.
Say what you will, but to echo the statement:
/.'s posters with the Kerbos fiasco.
"Thank you, RedHat".
Think back to a not so far era with MS wielding the DMCA over
Some of the trade rags were quoted as saying "Slashdot is the only (institution) one so far to have the cajones to say 'Go ahead, sue, we'll defend that suit'".
Well, RedHat is stepping up to the plate...hot damn. "We the people" need this because the lawmakers and representatives of the people are not listening to us, but to corporations.
If I am not mistaken, RedHat is a corporation, and can probably use the "We are the voice of reason" in an insane world (or something like that).
Really, I'm not joking... Think about all the "innovators, heretics, and *individual* the quintessential Great Minds" of our time.
The ones that went against the grain, conventions, accepted beliefs, morals of thier peers (and monarchs/rulers)...as a corporation...this is what RedHat is doing.
Freakin' A.
Moose.
Are there any issues known when upgrading older kernel versions?
Got an old Redhat box with 2.2.16 (IIRC) and would like to bring it up to the latest stable release. Any chance of that being done easily?
I've done incremental updates before but never major overhauls.
Moose.
"That is a valid question, now how about a valid answer." (I forget whom)
Ok, did anyone realize that windows 3.1 had a registry? Yes, it did. In the heady days of win 3.1, I found a text editor (shareware) that would, ironically, open up a 5Meg text file of MS's ftp site. (would note pad do it...oh, hell no).
... shitware editor is not installed, please re-install (ok, this is the exception, not the rule to winfile rules all).
/. knows that...guess what, people...most people don't.
/.'ers are so far removed from the real world/ the 'trenches' / the 'average user' that they *conveniently forget* what being a newbie is about. It is about fear of the unknown, or at minimal, not knowing what to do and hoping for some guidance.
... some one is usually helpful.
Well, after figuring out that this text editor sucked, I un-installed it. Double clicked on a text file...shareware editor is not installed.
Associated it via the file manager
Ok, so I write the programmer and bitch him out saying "WTF did you do to my machine?"
I de-installed your program and *IT REFUSES TO GO AWAY*.
Well the response was a walk thru into the registry to remove the association.
(he was offended by my language, but that was the point, however could not refute my claims of screwing up my machine...let me repeat *MY MACHINE*)
Back then the registry was just another idea to give *programmers control of machines* not the person who owned/used the fricking thing.
These were in the days when if a program, oh, say deleted critical dll's (like a solitare prog that would delete vbrun*.dll) if you fiddled with it or tried to fool it. Malicious intent, I believe it was called.
Yes, I know I can "right click, open with or drag and drop or drag a file from explorer, hover it over an open programs taskbar icon and drop it on the title bar {did you know about that one? probably not} to open the file". 1001 and one ways, same goddamn cat gets skinned over and over.
I know that, most of
Case in point: 2 graphics artist I used to work with...one was a "mac veteran" the other a windows user, on a mac @ work... neither one knew you could drag a file (just about any) onto a program/alias(aka shortcut) and have it launch/open the file.
I was dumbfounded... the "newbie", ok, the "mac vet"... You're kidding.
Hell, 90% (and this is being kind) of the users I've run across will find a file in windows explorer and then run their program to open it and do the "File->open" and *renavigate* instead of double clicking on the *file*.
OMG... the shame, the shame...
I ask why? Why? the answer is usually along the lines of "that is what I know".
No matter how many times I show them the easy way...the always go back to what they know (right, wrong or indifferent).
(Sigh)
And what is even more appalling is the
With mac's, it is there to an almost zealous extent.
Unix? there is some community nature, ignoring the RTFM's/flames
Windows? Hah! It is an *industry standard*, on 9X% of computer in the world...you should be *born* with the knowledge! Seems to be the opinion even from windows users themselves.
Yeah, mucking with extensions is not high treason.
But, we've been here before (at least I have).
Usability and Control over your own system (or that of the average user "we" seem to be wanting to protect and help and free from being a "slave to MS/dmca/sssca/riaa/mpaa" are the same one we are shunning with "they should know this..."
Tell me how many unix systems you could run from the CLI less than a year after birth?
Uh, huh.
I don't know all the answers, but dammit, some of us are trying to find the right questions.
Moose.
"You ain't pretty, and you ain't strong. So, dammit you better be *smart*.
Elenor Roosevelt's Mother to her daughter.
Heh, watch my own reply to a story I submitted be modded as a troll (Just kidding...kinda).
.doc was synonymous with *WORDPERFECT*, first) is only a minor foot note amongst all of the other "Bad Stuff"(TM) they have been convicted of. But, if anyone that "gets" the mind/market-share or memes (sp?) that leads to the "Bill Gates owns Apple" type of think (don't laff, I've heard it uttered before).
Have not seen anything posted about "iron fisted control" of MS extensions a la the windows file manager.
(side note: did not read very far, forgive me...600+ replies in ~3 hours. I love this place).
(Anywho) Just do a Start->run->winfile, then do a File->Associate and pick any extension and its program. The association will *never* be broken.
Heck, winfile is even in windows NT (IIRC) and supports LFN's oddly enuf. (not sure about win2k having winfile).
You see; the whole point of all this is:
A) we're geeks, we do this for a living and don't carry much "inertia" as it was put in the article.
Average users aren't going to know this stuff.
B) Hijacking of extensions by Microsoft (If my memory serves me properly,
C) It is scary to think that with all these "minor" offenses coming into light, no on has thought of bringing it up in the current trial or even into a different trial(s) (or heck, more of them...yeah, I know, I want to smack me to for saying it, but bear with me, pls).
Reason being, unless remedies take care of things like this extension issue, bootloader issue, "me too'ism" like copyright violations, theft of IP, copyright theft ad infinitum... it ain't going to stop. It is like Kudzu, it is just going to "grow back" only much stronger/faster.
Think about it. Seriously, think about it. Unless Microsoft is brought to the brink from "death by a 1,000 cuts", the bad blood will still be there. Not like the current court case has done anything to modify their behavior.
Moose.
I'm talking and I can't shut up.
6th Day was a good movie? Jesus ass tits christ whats wrong with you?
Ok, ok, I'm biased...I admit it, but as far as most of "Aaa-nolds" movies the 6th day was a good flic. Maybe not "terminator" calibre, but close enuf for me.
Moose.
Yeah, I responded to an AC...discussion is probably dead, so who cares.
"When the lights go down in the city" to all the people in California/Silicon valley.
/. moderators have proven me wrong...metamoderation rules, obvious trolls = agree, otherwise don't moderate or *disagree*)
(This is not a troll, if you don't get it that says more about you than it does me. It's meant to be funny...if it does not amuse you, then don't mod it up or mod it down.
"I was raised to belive there was *some* good in everyboday" Pacha in 'The Emp. New Groove'.
Unfortunately, recent
Moose
PS. IF you've read the far, don't you agree it's sad when you have to put disclaimers up just trying to make a __JOKE__?
When moderators attack, tonite at 8pm.
need a 500Mhz Athlon to run the cooling system?
/.'s database will eventually lose every one of my +3 or higher posts, sooner or later when there is database cor*&^%@
That, my friends would be the ultimate irony.
(because you know darn well Intel'l lowest end proc available will be the 19.3333 celeron IV).
Moose.
(top 2 reasons to mod me up:
2) I'm funny, insightful and informative damnit
1)
People fear what they do not understand, and most people do not understand technology, encyption, CSS (style sheets and the encryption on DVD's).
/. readers do this this would make somone take notice.
/.'ers, tops...stir the hornets nest.
/me extends his hand and says "hi, nice to meet you".
And this is just regular people (J6P's et al) but the scary part is that it goest double if not triple for congress "critters"...simple fact is that most of these draconian laws are introduced and passed because the congress ppl don't understand technology and are out of touch (for the most part) with the people they represent.
Think about it for just a moment:
Your non-techno-smart friends (you do have them to remind you what ppl are like outside your niche, right?) don't know all the in's and out's of tech, much less the politics involved.
This is amplified much by congress ppl...
silence implies consent, ignorance is bliss and its not illegal/immoral until you are caught.
We've seen what congress/the judiciary/lawyers for or against (decss,napster, FITB) just don't get it regardless of defense/prosecution of laws such as the ATA/SSSCA/DMCA.
Will such a initiative work? Yes, but here is how to "better the cause" using the #'s to your/our advantage:
1) you know how those annoying virus messages (hoax, real) get to you by a # of FWD's...use some of those messages to further *this* cause...the more people see, the better (ignore the fact this is spambot snacks) and add your representatives email as the primary addressee and CC all the other people.
If even a measley 7% of
(Low signal, high noise...but a skipping record/cd is similar and usually gets attended to in quick order...no?)
2) Write the letter (or get a "form letter" if your skills are as poor as mine at times) and sign, date, and address it to every rep. you can think of...do it a few times and if you get a form letter back, try a hand written letter.
tit for tat...if a hand written letter does not get attention by your rep, copy it to your local newspaper editor and imply "is anyone home in our rep's office?".
two to three % of
3) this is the best one yet: Take a day off or two (we are overworked, aren't we?), but, instead of marathon quake sessions go down to where your reps office or his/her's aides and camp out for a day or two. Try to get an appointment, or a word or at the very least a *hand delivered letter*.
And, once again, a "letter to the editor" to your local rag would be even better in this instance.
A "you mean this person is representing me and does not have the time/want to see me? taxation and passing laws w/o representation? have we BEEN here before?
Heh, I'm just the kind of person to do the 3rd.
A) I need a vacation, B) You know the phrase "there is one in every crowd"?
C) Stallman is right about standing up against an evil system. Heck, I used to work for the local paper...I know they can dish it out and can't take it...but this kind of thing the *feed on*.
Moose (on his way to get a leave form)
John Kats and his bashers, admirers, and those who could care less. Why? Because it makes a *well rounded review*.
:)
You see I've seen reviews/previews/trailers that hype a movie to death. Some live up, some don't.
So, what I rely on is many different opinions and this movie is no different.
Take Reindeer Games, for instance...from the reviews and trailers, well, it looked stupid as hell, but, I saw it on a recommendation from a few people at work...that was a *good* movie.
The Matrix, The usual suspects, long kiss goodnite and the 6th day were all along the same vein and IMO/IMR(eviews) are good flics.
Training day may be more like the Long Kiss Goodnite in that it is an excellent flic, with damn good acting but LKG got a little "soft" (for lack of a better word/thesaurs) for the last 15mins tword the end.
Did that ruin the movie? Nope. Forgivable? Yep.
I dunno, maybe critics are too critical. Heck, when I took my son to see shrek, I damn near busted a gut laughing...and I was the only one in the theatre that said "YEAH" real loud when the lady dragon ate the king...heh, I guess I'm a big kid
Thanks for reading.
Moose.
Be good, or don't get caught being otherwise.
Well, if there were/was truth in advertising they'd be using names like Florida, Arizona, Death Valley...Hot, damn HOT.
But by the same token, Tbirds would be named like Vesuvius, Mt. Saint Helens...Just as hot but shorter lived.
Heh, didn't Tom's Hardware have the "If the heat sync falls off 'review'. Ouch.
AMD makes damn good chips, as does Intel (tho the P4 fails to impress me at all) but AMD needs to look into baking chips. Then again they are cheap enuf as long as nothing else goes with it.
Heat syncs, and die shrinks, and heat spreaders...oh MY!!
IMO heat sync tech is going to hit a brick wall and procs as well, until the "tweakers" tech of waterblocks and supercooling will become commanplace.
Moose.
"Yeah, look how much faster she's run HP into the ground than anyone else would have been able to do.".
Heh, I was thinking the same thing...but you forget that Gil Amelio an J.L Gausse should be given a chance...just have to hit the reset button to bring HP back to its pre Carly dayz.
Oh, and IIRC Itanium == IA64, before *ntel bought the Alpha, the IA64 was not happening because of IP conflicts (disputes of some sort).
My memory may be fuzzy on the chain of events but it seems to home in on this:
IA64 can be read as "Intel's Alpha"64.
All your RISC are belong to us (yeah its a running gag, still funny at times...like here ya ninny)
Moose.
Beautiful, man, just beautiful...
/. heh)
After reading all the specs...wow. Nice work.
"What Norman and other astrophysicists would like to learn is why star formation is so inefficient."
Hell, I could have told you that...this is "mother nature" at work, not a computer sim.
"she" does things in her own sweet time...
And look at the cooling specs...yikes. It should have been build in Alaska...outside...in winter.
Moose.
(fingers crossed this gets posted to the right forum...not like last time. Prolly serves me right...Used windows + ie + relaunch after an "internal error" + posting to
Hey, I just noticed, maybe that is what I.E. stands for..."Internal Error"?
(somehow /. is on the fritz again, this wound up in the "high tech stamp" discussion... Thanks a lot Taco/mysql/whatever is responsible...anywho....)
Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it:
Abraham Lincoln, on his deathbed no less, warned us against corporations having anything to do with government. If I recall correctly he is one to have mentioned the phrase "unseen hands".
These "unseen hands" are busy doing "much seen damage" to US citizens and the world as well.
The Boston Tea party (eventually leading to the Revolutionary War) was caused by *CORPORATIONS* exerting excessive control over the colonies *WITH* "government/dictatorial" power and concent.
I don't know how I can spell out these parallels any clearer. With all the "Going Forward" and "looking tword the future" and other assorted buzzword/market speak *we or more specifically **lawmakers** * are forgetting the past and the history of what makes this country great.
In my cynicism, the term "expert" means to me someone who is never consulted on an important decision until it is too late and FUBAR.
This seems to be the case with the DMCA and now the SSSCA.
I hate to be the first one to say it, but history is repeating itself, and I wonder how long until the next "revolution" of sorts, or blatent *lawbreaking/violent/civil disobedience* protest comes about. Sept. 11 stirred the hornets, but where will then anger go if bin Laden is not found, but the *violations* of our rights continues so we are no better off than those we are pursuing?
Points to ponder, I assure you, think about it.
"...and I think we've seen that movie too.." GnR.
My question is this:
The pressure is building, we are pissing off other great nations at a rate >= the # of allies.
How do we keep ourselves free from "digital slavery" w/o handing over the keys to the first of our enemies that figures out our future "hardware backdoors"? What does the SSSCA accoplish in the first place? The DMCA As well!
Simple question: What *GOOD* have these laws done for the *American People*?!
I've asked the question nobody has asked, what is the answer?
Moose.
The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one. The public domain is almost empty, folks. Microsoft's future motto will soon be "All your IP/Prior Art are belong to us".
and
The DMCA, not deCSS, is a "Digita Crowbar" that is bludgeoning the rights of the Americans with stunning speed wielded by "unseen hands".
DAMMIT I DID NOT POST MY COMMENT TO THIS GROUP.
9 20 3&mode=flat
./ fsck-ups. (sigh)
/., Taco, whoever does QA... Something is WRONG Y'all, I posted my comment to this Discussion:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/04/184
and it wound up here.
ARUGH!!!
Moose.
Sheesh, second time I've lost karma to
Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it:
Abraham Lincoln, on his deathbed no less, warned us against corporations having anything to do with government. If I recall correctly he is one to have mentioned the phrase "unseen hands".
These "unseen hands" are busy doing "much seen damage" to US citizens and the world as well.
The Boston Tea party (eventually leading to the Revolutionary War) was caused by *CORPORATIONS* exerting excessive control over the colonies *WITH* "government/dictatorial" power and concent.
I don't know how I can spell out these parallels any clearer. With all the "Going Forward" and "looking tword the future" and other assorted buzzword/market speak *we or more specifically **lawmakers** * are forgetting the past and the history of what makes this country great.
In my cynicism, the term "expert" means to me someone who is never consulted on an important decision until it is too late and FUBAR.
This seems to be the case with the DMCA and now the SSSCA.
I hate to be the first one to say it, but history is repeating itself, and I wonder how long until the next "revolution" of sorts, or blatent *lawbreaking/violent/civil disobedience* protest comes about. Sept. 11 stirred the hornets, but where will then anger go if bin Laden is not found, but the *violations* of our rights continues so we are no better off than those we are pursuing?
Points to ponder, I assure you, think about it.
"...and I think we've seen that movie too.." GnR.
My question is this:
The pressure is building, we are pissing off other great nations at a rate >= the # of allies.
How do we keep ourselves free from "digital slavery" w/o handing over the keys to the first of our enemies that figures out our future "hardware backdoors"? What does the SSSCA accoplish in the first place? The DMCA As well!
Simple question: What *GOOD* have these laws done for the *American People*?!
I've asked the question nobody has asked, what is the answer?
Moose.
The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one. The public domain is almost empty, folks. Microsoft's future motto will soon be "All your IP/Prior Art are belong to us".
and
The DMCA, not deCSS, is a "Digita Crowbar" that is bludgeoning the rights of the Americans with stunning speed wielded by "unseen hands".
/me pulls the pin out of the grenade, tosses it into a room and keeps on trucking.... figurativly speaking, of course.
"You apparently don't have much experience with Solaris either."
No, dammit, but I am trying. The fact that I *gasp! asked for help* from people on campus who are !payed! to help but don't, speaks volumes about me/them. Oh, yea, and attempting to install BSD on an Ultra10 I *inhereted*. Read the docs on installing BSD on sparcs...they spell it out as a *FSCKING PITA*. Call me a sado-masochist or call me a *TECH*...same same.
Oh, yeah, and when I Installed win2000 server on an old power-edge...I thought, well, I don't have all the additional s/w I need so IIS is not needed at this time...guess what? Nimda was taking down IIS boxes all over campus that day **less than 2 HOURS later**.
heh.
"If you're too cheap to pay the measly amount for a maintenance agreement".
HAHAHAHA...If I was too cheap to buy sun and pay the maint....I'd be using older hard ware and installing *windows NT/2000* or maybe linux? Get over yourself and drop the attitude.
Oh and while we're at it, your arguments about buying more expensive hardware sound vaguely familiar....let's see...oh, yeah...something mac zealots have been saying for the same amount of time I'd bet.
Ok, maybe I should get over myself as well because you do have a point, I admit.
' You get what you pay for ' in essence.
Well, Microsoft will lock you in via software and solutions.
Sun (and mac) lock you in via hardware *and* software to some extent.
Want to upgrade? Only options with sun/mac is a whole freaking new set of boxes more expensive than the last 'solution'.
Save some of the seeds from your money tree and give them to us poor bastards that have to make due on *budgets*.
Moose.
Please note this is not flamebait. Only diff between flamebait and insightful is the willingness to see the other side.
Dude has a point, but not all of us have $$$ thrown at us on an hourly basis.
after seeing "I wonder if I can get titanium plating"...well, yes.
A Ti power book, a dremel tool and a little time invested.
Yeah, I know it's stupid, but the irony of this passing thought was "well, maybe the airport card built in will finally be able to transmit over 3 feet".
heh.
Moose.
Disclaimer:
"the above paragraphs are know to contain sarcasm and humor. These combinations are known, in the state of California to cause confusion in most readers"
oh, man, at first read I thought it said
"Maligning Mailing lists".
Heh, are mailing lists *that bad*?
Remember kids (Ed Asner voice) Reading Is Fundamental!! (RIF, god I'm {carbon?} dating my self, aren't I?)
Moose
MOL and Vmware are very similar from what I have read and taken in.
.sig "go ahead, mod me down, you're still an idiot." proved there are some really insightful sigs floating around.
Both do thier jobs admirably of "simulation of hardware" not emulation (of hardware/software).
From the initial description of VMware I got an entirely different picture from what it actually is. I was impressed with how well it functions but disappointed that it was not as I anticipated from the description given.
Let me explain:
From the initial description of VMware, as it relates to MOL topic, this was what VMW was presented as.
Hardware -> VMware -> OS's.
What it really is:
Hardware -> OS(1) -> VMware -> OS(2) {repeat from the VM for additional os's).
Now realize that this is not emulation, per se, it is a java concept of a "sand box" where the host os runs the guest os.
This is fine on a Multi-tasking os because it runs like any other application.
The problem with something like Virtual pc is the multitasking abilities of OS 8/9 are less than adequate if not inadequate because it is emulation + hardware abstraction.
MOL has the advantage because the host OS is more than adequate and just has to do the hardware abstraction portion.
Maybe I am asking too much, but, what I am looking for (making up my own acronym) a H.O.S, or Hardware OS, like my impression from VMware's initial description.
(computer/hardware -> HOS -> OS's.)
(interesting part above, funny part below)
I suppose I just want to beat a dead HOS, but no such animal exists yet.
(token flamebait below)
Now would someone please port LILO to mac?
The Open Firmware on Macs/Suns is maddening enough to deal with and dinking with bootX made LILO look like a piece of cake.
(/end token flamebait)
(token Offtopic below)
Being modded down as a troll for a funny/sarcastic remark... now that's funny.
To steal TWR's
(/end OT)
Moose.
learn to read body language, for the words may be "I won't hurt you" the posture may say "go ahead, make my DAY!"