It is nice to see the new nasa doing thinks like this, before they would have been cowboy's about the deal and just said bring her in, we have never had a problem before. I agree that nasa is very bloated, but it seems that the new system is working better. We should have more x-prize type of prizes, but with a shorter time line, say 50 million/moon shot in 5 years. I think it can be done.
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Well... Just watch yourself while doing this, I have seen more than one person fired over doing this, if it is truly a steadfast 100% windows shop and is a large corporation or goverment location it can easily get you canned. Just CYA.
It may be an airplane, but I would say that with the ideas and innovations driven primarly by rutan and scaled composites that we will see much chepaer orbital insertions. Remember the first rocket powered human flights were not orbital insertions.
In the software development world that would be the alpha stage. I can just see it now.
Engineer to Management.
We are trying to work on the fast forward function and we would like to do that before shipping.
Management to Engineer.
We must ship by this date, we don't care if the software is done correctly or not, just get us revenue.
Engineer to Management.
Ok, me must remove the FFW button from the machine.
Management.
No, leave it we have a great idea.
Management to end user and press.
"This is a new feature of the ffw button, we think that it should be a super slow function, for those times when you just have a little too much time on your hands."
Project Manager: Make it work as quick as possiable, this just a demonstration. Devloper: It works, but it isn't secure. Project Manager: Next project, we do not have more features to add. Put security on the puch list of things to do if it goes production. Devloper(Next week after site goes into production without speaking to the devloper): You know that site that was just supposed to be a demonstration, it has security problems. Project Manager: Is it working? Devloper: Yes. Project Manager: Is the flaw easy to find? Programmer: Not by your average user, but by someone looking yes. Project Manager: I do not see a reason to spend the money to secure this application at this time. It seems to be in production just fine, you are a better devloper than what I thought.
Six Months down the road, the devloper gets strung up when someone accesses all of the inforamtion at the site. I have seen this happen far to many times in the real world.
The days aren't gone, but now we must use techniques that will keep all of our tracks hidden.
One of the largest holes that I currently see is the lack of any security on all of the wireless networks! You can load a machine up and use a card with a MAC address that you use for nothing but hacking and NEVER be caught. The good ole days aren't gone, but the good ole days are here right now. UNTRACEABLE baby, with COTS equipment at that. From my house with a 24db antenna I can see ten networks that are not encrypted. I was thretened with a lawsuit recently when I informed a company of an unencrpted network that I found while driving to my house, I will never do that again, but now I will keep them to myself just incase I want to do some "gray" actions. Don't get me wrong, I don't go around destroying networks, but with wireless in the state that it is in today, I could definately do that.
If you couldn't draw up the knowledge of any past experiences used in employment you would have to work for the same employer from the time that you started coding.
From my limited knowledge of this type of IP law unless it was covered under at patent and as long as YOU DON'T USE THE ORIGINAL SOURCE code you are going to be fine.
Also If this was true M$ would be in some large trouble remember when they were taking a large number of developers from Oracle and other competing companies and having them work on directly competing products? I think that Sun or Oracle would of sued Microsoft if they could have had a legal leg to stand on!
Let me start out by saying that I am a *nix person for the most part. But when it comes to large environments and running a windows desktop this is THE way to go.
I have personally designed and implemented twenty to thirty of these farms like you are talking about. I have also done XTerm farms like the city of largo, and other large ones in the telcom industry. Some of which were over 1000 seats.
But the students need secure accessible and reliable access. Citrix is one of the only ways to do it cheaply and easily (relatively speaking). One of the biggest advantages is in the upgrading from one application to a newer or upgrading OS's. Correctly done this can be extremely low cost on labor. We just wrapped a two week project where we migrated all of the servers from WindowsNT4 TSE running Office 2k, and some proprietary applications to Windows 2k, Office XP and all of the new proprietary applications. This was done for 5000 desktops in two weeks, if you want the exact details just email me and let me know. Also our uptime over the last two years has been 100% in a 24/7 environment, never having been down totally once, not even for a minute. We are also using unix SAN arrays now. This is in a hospital, and works wonders. If you would like some more information just email me and I will give it to you, this is getting a little long winded on/.
They can be a drop in solution. The only machine that they have to work about chaning the deployment of applications on is the TSE machine. I have droped-in many of these for solutions like this. Even a large number of them for where people can't use a VPN client.
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It is nice to see the new nasa doing thinks like this, before they would have been cowboy's about the deal and just said bring her in, we have never had a problem before. I agree that nasa is very bloated, but it seems that the new system is working better. We should have more x-prize type of prizes, but with a shorter time line, say 50 million/moon shot in 5 years. I think it can be done.
Well... Just watch yourself while doing this, I have seen more than one person fired over doing this, if it is truly a steadfast 100% windows shop and is a large corporation or goverment location it can easily get you canned. Just CYA.
It may be an airplane, but I would say that with the ideas and innovations driven primarly by rutan and scaled composites that we will see much chepaer orbital insertions. Remember the first rocket powered human flights were not orbital insertions.
In the software development world that would be the alpha stage. I can just see it now.
Engineer to Management.
We are trying to work on the fast forward function and we would like to do that before shipping.
Management to Engineer.
We must ship by this date, we don't care if the software is done correctly or not, just get us revenue.
Engineer to Management.
Ok, me must remove the FFW button from the machine.
Management.
No, leave it we have a great idea.
Management to end user and press.
"This is a new feature of the ffw button, we think that it should be a super slow function, for those times when you just have a little too much time on your hands."
Happens all the time
Some really powerful shadowbane players!
As long as it doesn't "blow out"
I have to hand it to who thought of this one. It is a good simple idea!
I am not a spamer and hate spam, but I think that who ever developed this should get a pat on the back, it is a good idea.
I am glad that I don't have to worry about it here, XWindows baby.
Why many of the fun toys are banned for sale on EBay... Quit making this stuf so public :D
>Why is there so much ignorance about security?
Project Manager: Make it work as quick as possiable, this just a demonstration.
Devloper: It works, but it isn't secure.
Project Manager: Next project, we do not have more features to add. Put security on the puch list of things to do if it goes production.
Devloper(Next week after site goes into production without speaking to the devloper): You know that site that was just supposed to be a demonstration, it has security problems.
Project Manager: Is it working?
Devloper: Yes.
Project Manager: Is the flaw easy to find?
Programmer: Not by your average user, but by someone looking yes.
Project Manager: I do not see a reason to spend the money to secure this application at this time. It seems to be in production just fine, you are a better devloper than what I thought.
Six Months down the road, the devloper gets strung up when someone accesses all of the inforamtion at the site. I have seen this happen far to many times in the real world.
M$ needs to keep this up, mainly so they don't end up selling millions of $199.00 linux workstations to compete with their PC software!
I think that turning Xboxen into Linux workstations is a great idea, they would make good xterms.
Just wait until we can bood code without modifying the Xbox. The signed boot loader is a bear though.h
What's the fastest way to move 1GB of data nightly from LA to San Fran?
Fed-Ex
The days aren't gone, but now we must use techniques that will keep all of our tracks hidden.
One of the largest holes that I currently see is the lack of any security on all of the wireless networks! You can load a machine up and use a card with a MAC address that you use for nothing but hacking and NEVER be caught. The good ole days aren't gone, but the good ole days are here right now. UNTRACEABLE baby, with COTS equipment at that. From my house with a 24db antenna I can see ten networks that are not encrypted. I was thretened with a lawsuit recently when I informed a company of an unencrpted network that I found while driving to my house, I will never do that again, but now I will keep them to myself just incase I want to do some "gray" actions. Don't get me wrong, I don't go around destroying networks, but with wireless in the state that it is in today, I could definately do that.
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If you couldn't draw up the knowledge of any past experiences used in employment you would have to work for the same employer from the time that you started coding.
From my limited knowledge of this type of IP law unless it was covered under at patent and as long as YOU DON'T USE THE ORIGINAL SOURCE code you are going to be fine.
Also If this was true M$ would be in some large trouble remember when they were taking a large number of developers from Oracle and other competing companies and having them work on directly competing products? I think that Sun or Oracle would of sued Microsoft if they could have had a legal leg to stand on!
Let me start out by saying that I am a *nix person for the most part. But when it comes to large environments and running a windows desktop this is THE way to go.
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I have personally designed and implemented twenty to thirty of these farms like you are talking about. I have also done XTerm farms like the city of largo, and other large ones in the telcom industry. Some of which were over 1000 seats.
But the students need secure accessible and reliable access. Citrix is one of the only ways to do it cheaply and easily (relatively speaking). One of the biggest advantages is in the upgrading from one application to a newer or upgrading OS's. Correctly done this can be extremely low cost on labor. We just wrapped a two week project where we migrated all of the servers from WindowsNT4 TSE running Office 2k, and some proprietary applications to Windows 2k, Office XP and all of the new proprietary applications. This was done for 5000 desktops in two weeks, if you want the exact details just email me and let me know. Also our uptime over the last two years has been 100% in a 24/7 environment, never having been down totally once, not even for a minute. We are also using unix SAN arrays now. This is in a hospital, and works wonders. If you would like some more information just email me and I will give it to you, this is getting a little long winded on
Cheers
They can be a drop in solution. The only machine that they have to work about chaning the deployment of applications on is the TSE machine. I have droped-in many of these for solutions like this. Even a large number of them for where people can't use a VPN client.
Cheers