Actually the GP guessed at cost per square meter. But in the article they say the total cost is about the same as the energy expenditure, which would be about a 1/3 of that.
So almost by definition it does actually work out to be the same as the world-wide per capita energy expenditure cost.
... so you're suggesting that humans were designed by something that isn't supernatural? So made by some creature that we can observe? Sorta like some smart aliens?
Heh, my parents once took over ownership of a pub under protection. Instead of paying them we paid for a real security group to point shotguns at them and threaten them to leave the pub alone.
Raised the value of the pub more then the cost of the security group heh.
While it would be nice to do a poll, I wonder how many people even realise if they are using some proprietary wireless or graphics card driver?
These days distros can install them automatically. (not a move I'm against. In fact I voted for it (successfully) in Ubuntu, as long as the user is clearly told and informed about non-free)
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think if you're raising your voice, especially in anger (there's degrees of course - let's not strawman this) then you should expect to get the attention of anyone around you, particularly the police.
I don't really understand why having an officer watch you in such circumstances is bad.
Say what? If you go out into a public place and start yelling aggressively because you're mad, then I hope indeed that the police do pay attention to you! And yes, you should work on that anger of yours.
What if there was a policeman nearby? If you were yelling in public because you were mad, would you be surprised if that policeman watched you to make sure you didn't cause a further disturbance?
Okay my parents didn't speak latin, but so? Most people consider their 'roots' to be more than just their parent's generation, and look back quite a way.
I used barbaric to mean barbarians. There was no hidden agenda there. If you go back far enough I'm sure I came from some barbarian tribe.
In the particular example that you gave, it was the tribe that failed to preserve those stories. If the outsider hadn't of recorded them then they would have been truely lost forever. What possible right does the tribe have over what the outside wrote down? If the tribe could not be bothered to record the stories, then frankly they can't complain when they get lost.
It's about power, and you see it in many countries.
Learning and knowing english is a sign of the elite. Using a computer is english is also a sign of being ellite. They don't want any old common person being able to use a computer.
Well we have. As an english person, I no longer speak latin, or greek or any of my ancestors tribal languages. I don't have most of my barbaric cultures and so on.
I don't really follow the bit about being allowed to copy snippets from a DVD. How exactly are you allowed to do that legally? Does that mean it's okay to use DeCSS for such a purpose? Can decss now be legally shipped with distros "for the express purpose of only copying snippets" ?
If cracking a DVD is still illegal, then does is this kinda like the right for a man to bear children. We can't actually do it, but we now have the right:) ?
I was just thinking about the cost involved. Buying a new car is very expensive, but renting a different car just involves a minimal amount of relearning and only small amount of hassle. The latter seems close to switching distros.
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> Because the vast majority of consumers could care less about whether they can get a Dell with Redhat and Redhat either doesn't have the money or the sense to try to make a deal with Dell.
I think you are wrong. Most consumer wouldn't buy a Redhat machine from Dell. Why do you think that they would?
Surely his view is that everyone _should_ care about whether or software is free.
I think you'd find it hard to find many FSF advocates who believe that everyone cares about it. One of the big goals of the FSF is to educate people and get them to care.
Hmm, if Ford or Chevy moves in a direction that I feel is unethical, and I was renting one of their cars, then I'd switch to renting another car. I think that's a better analogy.
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Wow, Google are more open to the community, and you still manage to put a negative spin on it!
Actually the GP guessed at cost per square meter. But in the article they say the total cost is about the same as the energy expenditure, which would be about a 1/3 of that.
So almost by definition it does actually work out to be the same as the world-wide per capita energy expenditure cost.
The only trouble is that everyone disagrees with each other over which 5% you are supposed to follow :-)
If you have no community, it might be hard to keep ahold of your customers for very long.
If you have no customers but do have a large community, then it might be easy to quickly gain lots of customers.
As opposed to the cost of electricity for the whole world over then next 30 or so years?
How much is the total electric bill for the world?
Of course OpenDocument can do that. That's basic OLE. Go troll somewhere else.
Except in this case Microsoft have a vested interest in making it as difficult as possible for other people to implement support for their format.
... so you're suggesting that humans were designed by something that isn't supernatural? So made by some creature that we can observe? Sorta like some smart aliens?
Heh, my parents once took over ownership of a pub under protection. Instead of paying them we paid for a real security group to point shotguns at them and threaten them to leave the pub alone.
Raised the value of the pub more then the cost of the security group heh.
While it would be nice to do a poll, I wonder how many people even realise if they are using some proprietary wireless or graphics card driver?
These days distros can install them automatically. (not a move I'm against. In fact I voted for it (successfully) in Ubuntu, as long as the user is clearly told and informed about non-free)
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think if you're raising your voice, especially in anger (there's degrees of course - let's not strawman this) then you should expect to get the attention of anyone around you, particularly the police.
I don't really understand why having an officer watch you in such circumstances is bad.
Say what? If you go out into a public place and start yelling aggressively because you're mad, then I hope indeed that the police do pay attention to you! And yes, you should work on that anger of yours.
What if there was a policeman nearby? If you were yelling in public because you were mad, would you be surprised if that policeman watched you to make sure you didn't cause a further disturbance?
Okay my parents didn't speak latin, but so? Most people consider their 'roots' to be more than just their parent's generation, and look back quite a way.
I used barbaric to mean barbarians. There was no hidden agenda there. If you go back far enough I'm sure I came from some barbarian tribe.
You're mixing the issues.
In the particular example that you gave, it was the tribe that failed to preserve those stories. If the outsider hadn't of recorded them then they would have been truely lost forever. What possible right does the tribe have over what the outside wrote down? If the tribe could not be bothered to record the stories, then frankly they can't complain when they get lost.
It's about power, and you see it in many countries.
Learning and knowing english is a sign of the elite. Using a computer is english is also a sign of being ellite. They don't want any old common person being able to use a computer.
Well we have. As an english person, I no longer speak latin, or greek or any of my ancestors tribal languages. I don't have most of my barbaric cultures and so on.
What's the big deal?
Well of course they are going to play down the patent agreement problems.
They have partnered with Novell and Redhat. They aren't exactly going to shoot themselves in the foot and critisize Novell, now are they?
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I don't really follow the bit about being allowed to copy snippets from a DVD. How exactly are you allowed to do that legally? Does that mean it's okay to use DeCSS for such a purpose? Can decss now be legally shipped with distros "for the express purpose of only copying snippets" ?
If cracking a DVD is still illegal, then does is this kinda like the right for a man to bear children. We can't actually do it, but we now have the right
Surely alt gr+; e is easier: é
Maybe you could measure the difference in doppler shift of the hawking radiation at both sides of the black hole.
I was just thinking about the cost involved. Buying a new car is very expensive, but renting a different car just involves a minimal amount of relearning and only small amount of hassle. The latter seems close to switching distros.
> Because the vast majority of consumers could care less about whether they can get a Dell with Redhat and Redhat either doesn't have the money or the sense to try to make a deal with Dell.
I think you are wrong. Most consumer wouldn't buy a Redhat machine from Dell. Why do you think that they would?
Surely his view is that everyone _should_ care about whether or software is free.
I think you'd find it hard to find many FSF advocates who believe that everyone cares about it. One of the big goals of the FSF is to educate people and get them to care.
Hmm, if Ford or Chevy moves in a direction that I feel is unethical, and I was renting one of their cars, then I'd switch to renting another car. I think that's a better analogy.
If he wants to say that, he should be allowed to.
Is it so difficult to allow other people to say what they think, rather than pushing your values onto them?