We're at year 5-10 of The "Year of the Linux Desktop!" and it's still not all that close to becoming a reality but every Slashdot post can tell you it's an obvious solution to the computer worlds problems.
Not saying you're right or wrong, just that it's clear change doesn't happen overnight if at all.
No sh*t! In '93, I had to install it via ca. 40 1.44 Mb floppy images. *buntu will mail you a CD for free these days. It's so much easier these days, and so much more capable,...
I'm still amazed that my next door neighbour (who's now madly in love with the stuff since I showed it to him), has never heard of it before I mentioned it to him. Linux' PR efforts have always been on an uphill advance.
What I'd really like to see is people setting up their own private network - using whatever protocol they want - communities. Decentralization would be healthy I think.
I agree. Networked cells of communities connecting with each other. OtherNet, UnderNet, NotYourNet, NetByInviteOnly,...
Aside, I wonder where the IETF are in this process of rebooting the net. I do not want to see an OOXML-TCP/IP.Net embracing and extending anything for me.
How did I just prove his point?!? You fire up a command line and type in a few lines. No reboots necessary unless it's a new kernel coming in. Or, you can use the newfangled GUIs so popular with the noobs (eg. synaptic) which do the same thing but a lot slower.
A command line interface is a powerful feature, not a prehistoric dinosaur. Why it takes so long for you kiddies to figure this out is a mystery.
You have only to look at how we got to where we are - viruses, trojans, and malware are still a big worry, 15 years after Windows 95.
Yeah, and anyone who didn't see it coming in '95 had it coming to them. I've run Linux/FLOSS since '93. "Linux on the desktop this year?!?" Why's everyone taking so long? FFS!
Software and the most common operating systems still need weekly or monthly patching, are still vulnerable to same old exploits,
buffer overruns, yadda yadda.
All free, no registration required [*buntu, use sudo]:
su -c 'vi/etc/apt/sources.list' #.... debian.mirror.rafal.ca is blisteringly fast:-) Thanks rafal.
I don't much disagree with what you say but, WTF are we doing wrong in getting the word out?!?
Damn, I feel like O'Neill in Stargate:SG1: "I can save these people!"
Why do so few avg. users even know of its existence? Why the !@#$ isn't the word getting out? Should we be $PROPAGANDIZING --> HOTMAIL/AOL or something? Ewww.
But, realistically, there's no performance difference between Ubuntu and Windows XP or windows 7.
Do you actually believe that Win* runs as snappily as Linux? If you're running Compiz, perhaps, but that's mostly graphics chip performance, not kernel performance.
This is very curious to me. I've been happily running Linux since '93 (THANKYOU Linus!!!). Windows is superfluous here.
The other day, my next door neighbor mentioned he'd a machine that was hosed. I booted it into Knoppix, then installed Xubuntu. There's nothing wrong with it that wiping Win* wouldn't cure. He brought over his son's machine today, and I did the same to it. He's ecstatic that he's now two working machines at the cost of a couple of hours of my time, for which he needn't hunt for replacements.
He's astonished he's never heard of Linux before I showed it to him. WTF are we doing wrong in getting the word out?!?
Two more machines saved.:-)
The only problems people have with MS operating systems is that they keep voluntarily installing all sorts of crapware which slows down their machines.
Oh, please. That's the least of Win* users' problems.
Why has my neighbor never heard of Linux despite my proselytizing since ca. '93? That's what I'd like to clear up. That's what pees off this FLOSS proselytizer.:-P
Linus: "It's the best of both worlds! No viruses or crashing, without all that expensive Apple hardware."
And both PC and Mac guy pull out baseball bats (labelled "lawyers & FUD") and beat Linus to a bloody pulp.
"Good job, carry on."
Linus, the Terminator, dusts himself off, fries them both with X-ray beams from his eyes, then looks around for any BSD'ers hangin' around attempting to capitalise on the situation.
"In other words, you believe that Madoff intended to spend the rest of his life in prison?"
Intended, well, no.
Expected, yeah, once they caught up with him, which I suspect he always anticipated. I'm shocked at all the times he was on the carpet, yet was let free. I'm shocked at the level of oversight some of the (presumably) smartest people in the world exercise (none).
Hmm, no, maybe not smartest, just richest. Kinda stunning to see Palm Beach fall for such a cheap con job.
Ah. Wishful thinking. Try to keep on that track as long as possible. Consider it a second childhood.
We have to deal with the mess we have. Yeah, Win* is a sloppy slut. I don't use it. Still, the net's polluted with Win* crap and I'll bet most of those on/. (have to|want to) use it every day. So, whether MS are incompetent idiots or not is irrelevant. We're in quicksand; what do we do? Just blame MS and go home?
For me, it's astounding to hear that Win 7 is still crackable days after release. This from the company that's been supplying business with software all these years. They still can't even figure out how to secure their binaries. How can we expect different from them in the rest of their realm?
HTH did we get from Wallace to malware?!? Probably my fault.
Still doesn't answer the question. We've email admins around the planet fighting this !@#$, and I still see some every day (yes, I know procmail & bogofilter, thanks).
I'm hoping Darknet shows up any day now, and any packets with MS signatures in them will be summarily dropped when detected.
Is the damage he has caused really worth $946 million?
What's it cost to train and employ a planet's worth of email admins to deal with the shite he's peddling? Add in the cost of the anti-malware industry. Add on the cost of all the users' time dealing with what inevitably comes through despite all of that. Finally, add in all the costs of increased infrastructure needed to keep the net working when 80% of (email|net traffic) [I can't remember which it is offhand] is garbage dumped on our ISPs instead of what we specifically requested.
No, he's not responsible for all of it, just as Capone wasn't the only crime boss in Chicago, however, Wallace in jail would be a great place to start.
That's the saddest part of this. MS ought to be going out of their way to rid the net of every Win* based bot, if only to protect its valued customers (from each other).
The only non-legit Win* users who will be able to protect themselves are those who can crack MS tech (hardly rocket science, but my Mom's not going to get it).
BTW, don't get me started on the relative usefulness of various AV Windows tech. It's a scam. I use FLOSS. I'm amazed MS has managed to get away with this !@#$ for this long.
Anyone remember when MS tried to steal tech from the father of ethernet? Redux, i4i anyone:
10/97--Alacritech files first provisional U.S. Patent application 60/061,809 on SLIC Technology...
Ah, so this is astroturfing? I $(heart)/., so I'm not surprised this happens, nor do I much mind.
I do wish it was labeled as such from the start.
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"Geek Atlas" == boring and obscure places to you? Are you aware of on what website your comments are currently posted?
Damn, I'd love to see Alexandria, as it once was (pre-destruction).
No, that's not an intentional play-on-typo-of geek =~ Greek, for all the budding comedians out there. Feh.
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"If there is a fault in the book, it is with its title. When people see Geek Atlas, they might think that this is a book that takes the reader to boring and obscure places,..."
"Geek Atlas" == boring and obscure places to you? Are you aware of on what website your comments are currently posted?
Damn, I'd love to see Alexandria, as it once was (pre-destruction).
Is this how little you care about those you're writing for, that you can't even be bothered to read it yourself?!? Do you write code like this? How do you manage to get it past a compiler?
This is *so* lazy, and *so* simple to eliminate. Don't post if you can't be bothered to proofread, and no, a Spellchecker is not an adequate substitute.
You're publishing your thoughts to the world. Think!
I see we have a "typo" tag; may I suggest a "!fsck'in proofread" tag, please?
Yeah, ok, so that was a horrible attempt at an analogy, but my point was: you're completely wrong. As strange and counter-intuitive as quantum physics can be, it doesn't even begin to approach the level of crazy which most religions embrace as their founding principles.
I agree with your condemnation of spiritualism (for want of a better word), however, have you read Feynman? This's exactly how he described Quantum physics. "No, it doesn't make any sense, but it is how it works." [paraphrased]
Sorry. I'm looking forward to hearing it's been sorted out too. Go LHC! Please.
LinkedIn shows to potential employers the professionals you know, which is valuable information to them.
Why? What specifically is valuable about people who know me? How does who I know affect how well I can do my job?
How do you define "know"? I define it as, "knows what I'm capable of", at least in work situations. Someone who knows me well enough to tell me to use them for a reference is very good to have, especially if they've a PhD after their name.
They can choose you above someone else because of the people you know, and will be incorporated in the company's network by hiring you.
Again, how exactly does who I know affect how competent I am at my job?
And if the answer is "it doesn't, but they might want to know anyway" - why isn't it possible that they might decide *not* to hire me, based on the people I know?
Are you thinking it's all a popularity contest, as in how many Friends you have on Facebook? That's a pretty shallow way to look at something more sophisticated like linkedin.
I don't do any of this stuff either; I'm here to find out if maybe I should. I'm not expecting linkedin to be a facebook clone, but it appears you are.
The unfortunate reality is that, depending on what happens, this could conceivably be construed as either (a) evidence of bad faith (which courts really don't like) or (b) an attempt to intimidate plaintiffs or plaintiff witnesses
... Or (c) just another new form of astroturfing?
Maybe that discredited bunch of unlicenced PIs the MAFIAA was using is doing it. Who knows?
If it's PB supporters doing the cracking, I suspect it'll stop now.
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No sh*t! In '93, I had to install it via ca. 40 1.44 Mb floppy images. *buntu will mail you a CD for free these days. It's so much easier these days, and so much more capable, ...
I'm still amazed that my next door neighbour (who's now madly in love with the stuff since I showed it to him), has never heard of it before I mentioned it to him. Linux' PR efforts have always been on an uphill advance.
I agree. Networked cells of communities connecting with each other. OtherNet, UnderNet, NotYourNet, NetByInviteOnly, ...
Aside, I wonder where the IETF are in this process of rebooting the net. I do not want to see an OOXML-TCP/IP .Net embracing and extending anything for me.
Lookin' forward to ipv6 and DNSSEC.
How did I just prove his point?!? You fire up a command line and type in a few lines. No reboots necessary unless it's a new kernel coming in. Or, you can use the newfangled GUIs so popular with the noobs (eg. synaptic) which do the same thing but a lot slower.
A command line interface is a powerful feature, not a prehistoric dinosaur. Why it takes so long for you kiddies to figure this out is a mystery.
Yeah, and anyone who didn't see it coming in '95 had it coming to them. I've run Linux/FLOSS since '93. "Linux on the desktop this year?!?" Why's everyone taking so long? FFS!
All free, no registration required [*buntu, use sudo]:
su -c 'vi /etc/apt/sources.list' # .... debian.mirror.rafal.ca is blisteringly fast :-) Thanks rafal.
su -c 'aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade'
aptitude search blah
aptitude show blah
su -c 'aptitude install blah'
Beats the crap out of "app store"s. Have fun. :-)
I don't much disagree with what you say but, WTF are we doing wrong in getting the word out?!?
Damn, I feel like O'Neill in Stargate:SG1: "I can save these people!"
Why do so few avg. users even know of its existence? Why the !@#$ isn't the word getting out? Should we be $PROPAGANDIZING --> HOTMAIL/AOL or something? Ewww.
It's taking too damned long.
But, realistically, there's no performance difference between Ubuntu and Windows XP or windows 7.
Do you actually believe that Win* runs as snappily as Linux? If you're running Compiz, perhaps, but that's mostly graphics chip performance, not kernel performance.
This is very curious to me. I've been happily running Linux since '93 (THANKYOU Linus!!!). Windows is superfluous here.
The other day, my next door neighbor mentioned he'd a machine that was hosed. I booted it into Knoppix, then installed Xubuntu. There's nothing wrong with it that wiping Win* wouldn't cure. He brought over his son's machine today, and I did the same to it. He's ecstatic that he's now two working machines at the cost of a couple of hours of my time, for which he needn't hunt for replacements.
He's astonished he's never heard of Linux before I showed it to him. WTF are we doing wrong in getting the word out?!?
Two more machines saved. :-)
The only problems people have with MS operating systems is that they keep voluntarily installing all sorts of crapware which slows down their machines.
Oh, please. That's the least of Win* users' problems.
Why has my neighbor never heard of Linux despite my proselytizing since ca. '93? That's what I'd like to clear up. That's what pees off this FLOSS proselytizer. :-P
Linus: "It's the best of both worlds! No viruses or crashing, without all that expensive Apple hardware."
And both PC and Mac guy pull out baseball bats (labelled "lawyers & FUD") and beat Linus to a bloody pulp.
"Good job, carry on."
Linus, the Terminator, dusts himself off, fries them both with X-ray beams from his eyes, then looks around for any BSD'ers hangin' around attempting to capitalise on the situation.
I've been in this too long. :-| I like BSD.
"In other words, you believe that Madoff intended to spend the rest of his life in prison?"
Intended, well, no.
Expected, yeah, once they caught up with him, which I suspect he always anticipated. I'm shocked at all the times he was on the carpet, yet was let free. I'm shocked at the level of oversight some of the (presumably) smartest people in the world exercise (none).
Hmm, no, maybe not smartest, just richest. Kinda stunning to see Palm Beach fall for such a cheap con job.
That sounds like something Diebold/Sequoia would say. "Trust me. I know what I'm doing!"
Ah. Wishful thinking. Try to keep on that track as long as possible. Consider it a second childhood.
We have to deal with the mess we have. Yeah, Win* is a sloppy slut. I don't use it. Still, the net's polluted with Win* crap and I'll bet most of those on /. (have to|want to) use it every day. So, whether MS are incompetent idiots or not is irrelevant. We're in quicksand; what do we do? Just blame MS and go home?
For me, it's astounding to hear that Win 7 is still crackable days after release. This from the company that's been supplying business with software all these years. They still can't even figure out how to secure their binaries. How can we expect different from them in the rest of their realm?
HTH did we get from Wallace to malware?!? Probably my fault.
Still doesn't answer the question. We've email admins around the planet fighting this !@#$, and I still see some every day (yes, I know procmail & bogofilter, thanks).
I'm hoping Darknet shows up any day now, and any packets with MS signatures in them will be summarily dropped when detected.
Again, wishful thinking.
Is the damage he has caused really worth $946 million?
What's it cost to train and employ a planet's worth of email admins to deal with the shite he's peddling? Add in the cost of the anti-malware industry. Add on the cost of all the users' time dealing with what inevitably comes through despite all of that. Finally, add in all the costs of increased infrastructure needed to keep the net working when 80% of (email|net traffic) [I can't remember which it is offhand] is garbage dumped on our ISPs instead of what we specifically requested.
No, he's not responsible for all of it, just as Capone wasn't the only crime boss in Chicago, however, Wallace in jail would be a great place to start.
That's the saddest part of this. MS ought to be going out of their way to rid the net of every Win* based bot, if only to protect its valued customers (from each other).
The only non-legit Win* users who will be able to protect themselves are those who can crack MS tech (hardly rocket science, but my Mom's not going to get it).
BTW, don't get me started on the relative usefulness of various AV Windows tech. It's a scam. I use FLOSS. I'm amazed MS has managed to get away with this !@#$ for this long.
Anyone remember when MS tried to steal tech from the father of ethernet? Redux, i4i anyone:
10/97--Alacritech files first provisional U.S. Patent application 60/061,809 on SLIC Technology ...
Ah, so this is astroturfing? I $(heart) /., so I'm not surprised this happens, nor do I much mind.
I do wish it was labeled as such from the start.
"Geek Atlas" == boring and obscure places to you? Are you aware of on what website your comments are currently posted? Damn, I'd love to see Alexandria, as it once was (pre-destruction).
No, that's not an intentional play-on-typo-of geek =~ Greek, for all the budding comedians out there. Feh.
"If there is a fault in the book, it is with its title. When people see Geek Atlas, they might think that this is a book that takes the reader to boring and obscure places, ..."
"Geek Atlas" == boring and obscure places to you? Are you aware of on what website your comments are currently posted?
Damn, I'd love to see Alexandria, as it once was (pre-destruction).
"... or the old (read, 50+) hopeless romantic." Frankly, I wouldn't mind finding a few of those. Don't knock em, ...
"THIS. Holy fuck, this. Why do we *still* have windows you can't fucking minimize until you answer their inane questions?"
We? I run Linux. I do not have that problem. Physician, ...
Screw you. I had to ignore your markup on all the machines I've bought that I never wanted to use your software on.
MS, meet a planet-killer asteroid, please. Bye.
I hope.
Damnit!
"... which is currently is private ..."
"... to provide a systems for ..."
Is this how little you care about those you're writing for, that you can't even be bothered to read it yourself?!? Do you write code like this? How do you manage to get it past a compiler?
This is *so* lazy, and *so* simple to eliminate. Don't post if you can't be bothered to proofread, and no, a Spellchecker is not an adequate substitute.
You're publishing your thoughts to the world. Think!
I see we have a "typo" tag; may I suggest a "!fsck'in proofread" tag, please?
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I agree with your condemnation of spiritualism (for want of a better word), however, have you read Feynman? This's exactly how he described Quantum physics. "No, it doesn't make any sense, but it is how it works." [paraphrased]
Sorry. I'm looking forward to hearing it's been sorted out too. Go LHC! Please.
I miss Richard. Funny guy.
LinkedIn shows to potential employers the professionals you know, which is valuable information to them.
Why? What specifically is valuable about people who know me? How does who I know affect how well I can do my job?
How do you define "know"? I define it as, "knows what I'm capable of", at least in work situations. Someone who knows me well enough to tell me to use them for a reference is very good to have, especially if they've a PhD after their name.
They can choose you above someone else because of the people you know, and will be incorporated in the company's network by hiring you.
Again, how exactly does who I know affect how competent I am at my job?
And if the answer is "it doesn't, but they might want to know anyway" - why isn't it possible that they might decide *not* to hire me, based on the people I know?
Are you thinking it's all a popularity contest, as in how many Friends you have on Facebook? That's a pretty shallow way to look at something more sophisticated like linkedin.
I don't do any of this stuff either; I'm here to find out if maybe I should. I'm not expecting linkedin to be a facebook clone, but it appears you are.
Seems a bit too judgemental on your part.
The unfortunate reality is that, depending on what happens, this could conceivably be construed as either (a) evidence of bad faith (which courts really don't like) or (b) an attempt to intimidate plaintiffs or plaintiff witnesses
... Or (c) just another new form of astroturfing?
Maybe that discredited bunch of unlicenced PIs the MAFIAA was using is doing it. Who knows?
If it's PB supporters doing the cracking, I suspect it'll stop now.
perl -e 'print localtime(1234567890) ."\n";'
Let the "." concatenate operator do it for you.
(0) kiak /home/keeling_ perl -e 'print scalar localtime(1234567890) . "\n"'
Fri Feb 13 16:31:30 2009
Once you start down the road to pedantry, ...
Why not just turn on the TV set?!?
I'd be very surprised if it isn't going to be on ALL the major TV networks. Use the right tool.