Lots of companies have bent over backward to help the authorities, no questions asked. They like to be seen to be supportive of law enforcement, since who doesn't? Twitter fights back. Does Apple, Intel, or Google?
Yup, well if you hail from western europe, your democracies aren't in much better shape....
Their democracies just had huge demonstrations in numerous countries protesting your USTR's TTIP efforts.
Your taxes are high.
You don't think your taxes are too high?
... your governments impose themselves make mountains out of mole hills on social issues...
Do you even bother to think before spouting such nonsense? Have you bothered to read a newspaper recently? I think not. Abortion, gay rights, free speech, your Constitution is used like toilet paper, your military is now in its seventh war in the Middle East, Israel can do no wrong, you can't decide whether to take out Syria's Assad, make Iran glow in the dark, ally yourselves with Turkey, wonder wtf you're doing supporting the Saudis, yada, yada, yada,... Note that's just one side of the world. Add Pakistan, Afghanistan, Philipines,...
... and your elections are probably rigged, too
Hey Zeus! Ibid. Hanging chads ring any bells? Your elections have been gerrymandered for decades, your Demopublicans/Republicrats have been selling you all down the river for just as long. You haven't even begun to try to figure out what to do with your former slave population. How do you get Palin, Hillary, Romney, and Obama as your choices and that's it? Add in Snowden's revelations, Obama's persecution of whistleblowers, Holder's pathetic *everything*, the Megaupload clown prosecution, Gitmo,...
mail.com / email.com got bought out by AOL years ago...
I don't much care about that. Yeah, AOL in its day was pretty silly, but mail.com seems not bad. Anything I've talked to them about seemed handled professionally. Yeah, I tend to edit my replies in emacs, then attach that to an otherwise empty email (to preserve formatting), but that's the way of the world (Microsoft and its related apps' embrace & extend corruption) that I've come to expect to have to work with in many ways. They didn't invent that. FTP need[ed|s] to be told explicitly when it was handling binary data too.
... and require google to be unblocked when you need your password back
Didn't know that, but I won't forget my email provider account's pword, barring senility or ethyl alcohol (feature!:-). I don't bother going out of my way to block G. I just try not to use them/it, other than Youtube. I don't have much to hide, and I assume something's always been grepping what's been going through the main network nodes. Now, they're just better (more capable, technically speaking) of doing it.
They were compromised directly somewhere around 2008...
ty, but that was a long time ago, yes?
So that's 2 large companies with cross-scripted access to your password/data, and two points of agency entry - catch22 when you forget your password
So don't do that. I'm looking forward to getting IMAP access with them. $20/a. IMAP would eliminate my need to use their (IMHO) icky webmail interface. All webmail interfaces blow chunks (imho).
And you're still a fucking idiot. People like simplicity, and ease of use. Facebook/G+ make that REALLY simple for them.
No, they're not (still a fucking idiot). You're delusional. What's hard about email, for instance (from the user's point of view)? Okay, if you're stuck using Win*, it's a !@#$%, but that's not email's fault. *Everything* on Win* is a !@#$%.
You're on/. how long, yet you've not bothered to listen to (read) the *many* discussions *many* forums have been reporting on this over the years, or bothered to research this ancient (in "Computer/Software Years") topic?
Correct me if I'm wrong but/. has a search function built into it, yes? I just checked. At the bottom of the/. home page, see "Story Archive". In there is a link to view by "Topic." In the resultant list, find "Facebook."
Facebook is arguably an aggregation of some of the best online/telephonic communication mediums ever developed.
When you use the word "arguably", it means both sides of the argument may have validity. Are you really going to try to argue that FB ranks *anywhere* near TCP/IP (and tools like SMTP, NNTP, FTP,...)?
Any grandmother with an account on facebook could tell you how much easier it is to see what's up with their grandkids via facebook.
My mother (a grandmother) would argue that with you. She was quite happy with email and despised FB. When lazy brats like you decided a spam email or two a day was too much to deal with and gave up on email in favour of FB, she was disgusted.
It's hard to believe that we're *still* arguing about this on/.
Do you actually have something to add to the conversation, like why what I said is a terrible idea?
If you insist. It's been common knowledge for a long time that FB is not your friend in any way. Their product is their users' data (sold to advertisers & etc.). Now, we even have Snowden's insider view of the NSA confirming they're in no way protecting their users' data. With all the !@#$ that's been going on with NSLs and AT&T (et al) coughing it up for nothing more than a demand written on a Post-It note, everyone on-line world-wide ought to be horrified.
Most of us didn't need Snowden to confirm this. EFF (among others) have been screaming about this for years. You been living under a rock or something?
62characters of hex, plus adding a punctuation symbol, plus adding an upper case letter = 3.79 x 10^126
Nice. However, the devil's in the details. We're often told that strength of the algo won't out anyone. Social engineering or stuff we haven't considered will, and the latter's complicated. My key mentions an ISP (email addy) I haven't used in a couple of decades. How to fix? Revoke old key then release a new one. Er, how, exactly?
If this's non-simple for a geek like me, how's my (late) mom going to handle it?
... it would be like having to constantly avoid highways and grinding your way through crumbly outback routes.
Really? Other than youtube, I don't think I've bothered with google in years. ixquick is a reasonable search engine (and there are others as good). It even has a google gateway, and it's https. mail.com (among others) offer free email.
Other than the wonderful feature of NSA slurping everything you do, what's google really do for you?
I've nothing really against google. I just prefer not to go that way.
No, the problem wasn't that they referred to it as "Y2K", the problem was the mass media got hold of a 'possible' problem that 'might' affect 'some' computers and spun the issue to be so large as to throw civilization back to the dark ages...
Or, they were correct and it really was going to cause massive damage but we fixed it, or most of it that we could find. Years later, we were still finding remnants of it.
Repeat after me, hacking someone in another country is different than hacking that country.
Damned [Ll]ibertarians. Sigh.
Hi. Me too!:-) You ****ing Murricans, you let cash == speech, and now you're suggesting individual actions == $bad_country act of war? Shouldn't you look into who $attacker's boss/paymaster is first?
Tor is a connection-based low-latency anonymous communication system.
Clients choose a source-routed path through a set of relays, and negotiate a "virtual circuit"
through the network, in which each relay knows its predecessor and successor, but no others.
Traffic flowing down the circuit is decrypted at each relay, which reveals the downstream relay.
Basically, Tor provides a distributed network of relays. Users bounce their TCP streams (web
traffic, ftp, ssh, etc) around the relays, and recipients, observers, and even the relays
themselves have difficulty learning which users connected to which destinations.
This package enables only a Tor client by default, but it can also be configured as a relay and/or
a hidden service easily.
Client applications can use the Tor network by connecting to the local socks proxy interface
provided by your Tor instance. If the application itself does not come with socks support, you can
use a socks client such as torsocks.
You need apps which grok tor for tor to do anything useful (and I'm still trying to sort out that last bit for myself (no hurry)).
The results are in, you won the election. You can stop pandering now and we can do whatever the hell we actually planned to do, irregardless of anything you believed or said might happen, figurehead.
Slashdot Mirror
Because they're just a lobbying group out to help gun mfgr's sell guns.
Just one more ...
Lots of companies have bent over backward to help the authorities, no questions asked. They like to be seen to be supportive of law enforcement, since who doesn't? Twitter fights back. Does Apple, Intel, or Google?
So, open season on the homeless. Good to know.
Yup, well if you hail from western europe, your democracies aren't in much better shape....
Their democracies just had huge demonstrations in numerous countries protesting your USTR's TTIP efforts.
Your taxes are high.
You don't think your taxes are too high?
... your governments impose themselves make mountains out of mole hills on social issues ...
Do you even bother to think before spouting such nonsense? Have you bothered to read a newspaper recently? I think not. Abortion, gay rights, free speech, your Constitution is used like toilet paper, your military is now in its seventh war in the Middle East, Israel can do no wrong, you can't decide whether to take out Syria's Assad, make Iran glow in the dark, ally yourselves with Turkey, wonder wtf you're doing supporting the Saudis, yada, yada, yada, ... Note that's just one side of the world. Add Pakistan, Afghanistan, Philipines, ...
... and your elections are probably rigged, too
Hey Zeus! Ibid. Hanging chads ring any bells? Your elections have been gerrymandered for decades, your Demopublicans/Republicrats have been selling you all down the river for just as long. You haven't even begun to try to figure out what to do with your former slave population. How do you get Palin, Hillary, Romney, and Obama as your choices and that's it? Add in Snowden's revelations, Obama's persecution of whistleblowers, Holder's pathetic *everything*, the Megaupload clown prosecution, Gitmo, ...
Perhaps ebola will save us from all of you.
If not now, than at some point in the future.
This is different from that. Then is a time different now. This is less than you should, or likely would, need to care about.
There is a great value to a single unified environment.
There may be great value in single unified environments. There are great hazards inherent in monoculture environments.
Some of us care that what we use to communicate ideas is a precision tool which should not be WHACK! WHACK! WHACKed out blindly like you do.
I'd care a lot more about what you write if you'd care more about making me want to read it.
One is less than two. Then is older than now.
Regards, one of the local "Grammar Nazis" who'll hound you to your grave (while you might insist this is mere minutiae).
It makes my eyes bleed!
mail.com / email.com got bought out by AOL years ago ...
I don't much care about that. Yeah, AOL in its day was pretty silly, but mail.com seems not bad. Anything I've talked to them about seemed handled professionally. Yeah, I tend to edit my replies in emacs, then attach that to an otherwise empty email (to preserve formatting), but that's the way of the world (Microsoft and its related apps' embrace & extend corruption) that I've come to expect to have to work with in many ways. They didn't invent that. FTP need[ed|s] to be told explicitly when it was handling binary data too.
... and require google to be unblocked when you need your password back
Didn't know that, but I won't forget my email provider account's pword, barring senility or ethyl alcohol (feature! :-). I don't bother going out of my way to block G. I just try not to use them/it, other than Youtube. I don't have much to hide, and I assume something's always been grepping what's been going through the main network nodes. Now, they're just better (more capable, technically speaking) of doing it.
They were compromised directly somewhere around 2008 ...
ty, but that was a long time ago, yes?
So that's 2 large companies with cross-scripted access to your password/data, and two points of agency entry - catch22 when you forget your password
So don't do that. I'm looking forward to getting IMAP access with them. $20/a. IMAP would eliminate my need to use their (IMHO) icky webmail interface. All webmail interfaces blow chunks (imho).
And you're still a fucking idiot. People like simplicity, and ease of use. Facebook/G+ make that REALLY simple for them.
No, they're not (still a fucking idiot). You're delusional. What's hard about email, for instance (from the user's point of view)? Okay, if you're stuck using Win*, it's a !@#$%, but that's not email's fault. *Everything* on Win* is a !@#$%.
You're on /. how long, yet you've not bothered to listen to (read) the *many* discussions *many* forums have been reporting on this over the years, or bothered to research this ancient (in "Computer/Software Years") topic?
Correct me if I'm wrong but /. has a search function built into it, yes? I just checked. At the bottom of the /. home page, see "Story Archive". In there is a link to view by "Topic." In the resultant list, find "Facebook."
Have fun.
Facebook is arguably an aggregation of some of the best online/telephonic communication mediums ever developed.
When you use the word "arguably", it means both sides of the argument may have validity. Are you really going to try to argue that FB ranks *anywhere* near TCP/IP (and tools like SMTP, NNTP, FTP, ...)?
Kids these days.
Any grandmother with an account on facebook could tell you how much easier it is to see what's up with their grandkids via facebook.
My mother (a grandmother) would argue that with you. She was quite happy with email and despised FB. When lazy brats like you decided a spam email or two a day was too much to deal with and gave up on email in favour of FB, she was disgusted.
It's hard to believe that we're *still* arguing about this on /.
Do you actually have something to add to the conversation, like why what I said is a terrible idea?
If you insist. It's been common knowledge for a long time that FB is not your friend in any way. Their product is their users' data (sold to advertisers & etc.). Now, we even have Snowden's insider view of the NSA confirming they're in no way protecting their users' data. With all the !@#$ that's been going on with NSLs and AT&T (et al) coughing it up for nothing more than a demand written on a Post-It note, everyone on-line world-wide ought to be horrified.
Most of us didn't need Snowden to confirm this. EFF (among others) have been screaming about this for years. You been living under a rock or something?
62characters of hex, plus adding a punctuation symbol, plus adding an upper case letter = 3.79 x 10^126
Nice. However, the devil's in the details. We're often told that strength of the algo won't out anyone. Social engineering or stuff we haven't considered will, and the latter's complicated. My key mentions an ISP (email addy) I haven't used in a couple of decades. How to fix? Revoke old key then release a new one. Er, how, exactly?
If this's non-simple for a geek like me, how's my (late) mom going to handle it?
These companies no longer have any reason to voluntarily cooperate with the NSA. The NSA screwed them, and that screwage is costing them billions.
*Golf Clap*.
You pathetic moron. You think Apple or Google umbrage is going to stop NSA suckage? Ho. Ly. ...
What an incredibly shallow thinker you are. A bullet to the head would make your life easier too. Try it.
I can't believe how lazy minded some people have allowed themselves to become. 21st Century sure does suck.
... it would be like having to constantly avoid highways and grinding your way through crumbly outback routes.
Really? Other than youtube, I don't think I've bothered with google in years. ixquick is a reasonable search engine (and there are others as good). It even has a google gateway, and it's https. mail.com (among others) offer free email.
Other than the wonderful feature of NSA slurping everything you do, what's google really do for you?
I've nothing really against google. I just prefer not to go that way.
True. There's also, "Physical access means no security."
No, the problem wasn't that they referred to it as "Y2K", the problem was the mass media got hold of a 'possible' problem that 'might' affect 'some' computers and spun the issue to be so large as to throw civilization back to the dark ages ...
Or, they were correct and it really was going to cause massive damage but we fixed it, or most of it that we could find. Years later, we were still finding remnants of it.
Instead of giving programmers dozens of ways of checking and doing things, they should be forced into doing it one way.
Said the python junkie to the perl hacker, and the war was on.
Phuck, what a dumbth country you have now. Damn. "Idiocy? Ha! I'll show you idiocy!"
I'm drunk. Caveat emptor.
... we have no secret of any importance to be spied about...
Secrets? Ptheh. You have resources. Chiquita running rampant in the Amazon? Who do we bribe?
Meanwhile, what's "your government" doing? Bulldozing future World Cup venues/poor people's slums/homes?
[People should read more SciFi.]
Many of sites attacked in Brasil were goverment sites. Yes thats attacking a country ...
No it's not. Bra[sz]il != Bra[sz]il's political regime, now or ever. Don't think like a nationalistic slave.
... and i hope ma goverment arrest any FBI agente in brazillian soil.
Me too, but I suspect it would be CIA instead (if they're still pulling this !@#$ as they long have; hi Chiquita).
Repeat after me, hacking someone in another country is different than hacking that country.
Damned [Ll]ibertarians. Sigh.
Hi. Me too! :-) You ****ing Murricans, you let cash == speech, and now you're suggesting individual actions == $bad_country act of war? Shouldn't you look into who $attacker's boss/paymaster is first?
[sorry for perlisms, really]
I won't be happy until about 80% of my computer's functionality is integrated into my browser.
Dumbest (most ignorant?) statement ever? What, exactly, do you think a computer does, really? Show you cat pix?
# aptitude show tor
Tor is a connection-based low-latency anonymous communication system.
Clients choose a source-routed path through a set of relays, and negotiate a "virtual circuit"
through the network, in which each relay knows its predecessor and successor, but no others.
Traffic flowing down the circuit is decrypted at each relay, which reveals the downstream relay.
Basically, Tor provides a distributed network of relays. Users bounce their TCP streams (web
traffic, ftp, ssh, etc) around the relays, and recipients, observers, and even the relays
themselves have difficulty learning which users connected to which destinations.
This package enables only a Tor client by default, but it can also be configured as a relay and/or
a hidden service easily.
Client applications can use the Tor network by connecting to the local socks proxy interface
provided by your Tor instance. If the application itself does not come with socks support, you can
use a socks client such as torsocks.
You need apps which grok tor for tor to do anything useful (and I'm still trying to sort out that last bit for myself (no hurry)).
But he IS the one who can issue the order to stop prosecuting them.
Sure, if he wants a Daley Plaza moment of his own. You don't think he's that stupid (aka suicidal), do you?
The results are in, you won the election. You can stop pandering now and we can do whatever the hell we actually planned to do, irregardless of anything you believed or said might happen, figurehead.
FTFY.