the autonomous part comes up when the soil is wet and wi-fi signal won't get through or when the material above the snake happens just to be a metal plate thick enough.
It looks like total crap, no wonder that people have difficulties by using it. Why in Bill's name did they start a new design for that kind of machines, ffs. we have had ATM's around for years, just stick to it, they work and people know how they work.
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Humm... is this just me or is someone being slightly naive here ?
SELinux as mighty as it may be for tracking skype and alike, it will probably not track down your perl script include tags (lets say mailfilters that run somewhere, or from another app, the "safe" javascript in mozilla ?). Yep you can tell your mozilla that it shouldn't read a or b or c nor should it write d, but how much can you restrict perl on your system ? or bash for this sake ? bash scripts are not always harmless:p will SELinux track down someone's lazy php inclusion code which fetches the code to execute over http by mistake ? and SELinux is still quite helpless against racing bugs (2 apps writing into/tmp/foobar at once and reading it from there, bot apps will follow the rules set up, but one may start to do stuff you wouldn't expect it to...).
Common sense is the first line of protection, if that isn't there, even SELinux won't save you. And grandmother Bethy will never understand why she would have to go through all of this SELinux mess just to feel a bit safer.
SELinux flies over most of the dumbusers head without even the slightest buzz, they just can't track it nor keep it up, nor do they *want* to do it. FC based systems are in a way like windows machines, when they get old you install the next fc and life goes on as it would in m$ world. But some machines will have to run for years, yes you may update the kernel at times, but you'd rather not reconfigure everything again because you need a newer version of one package. If you start to upgrade stuff this will get messy and will cost time, new paths, new files, new library tricks. SELinux without the know-how how to use it, may be even a greater risk than running without it (for comfortability sake people turn too much stuff to allowed and start to lose the line of attention where when and why and as who some commands are executed, because they are "secure").
SELinux definitely is a nice helper to control the system, but it's not a complete silver bullet, people please don't praise it as one.
it would be nice if google would ask for permission to upload the file. and it would be nice for mozilla to confirm "silent submit" with file inputs....
i was wondering on the same issue a few days ago, how can they protect this from happening, right now, they can't.... but mozilla should fix it.
I'd like to see them coming up with bazillion nanorobots. Robots that could fix eachother and the hubble itself. We know that to a level it's possible, tiny midgets running around on the hubble fixing it where it breaks and fixing eachother. Ofcourse they'd need a bunch of supplies too (hear that nasa dudes ? don't forget to give them a bunch of resistors and stuff). Would be cool, would be economic from some point.
Ofcourse there's a chance of them gaining somekind of ai and destroying the world as we know it but that's just a minor issue isn't it ?
Exactly. Going that deep is one problem, trying to move around in that enormous pressure even with a sub and literally trying see anything in that pitch-black environment sounds like a mission impossible.
At already 500m depth the pressure is ~50 atmospheres, if you'd be sent down there without any protection, any squid look like a giant next to you (maybe that's what the japanese are baffling about ? cause i really don't understand that giant-squid-mania).
It's interesting however how that shark is related to those pesky fggers that we're afraid of:)
Two snowflakes can be really alike, woohoo. I mean, this must be a breakpoint of science as we know it. Or is it ?
Leave the snowflakes alone, try to research if we can get something to fuel our cars after a decade or two or try to find the cure for utter stupidity. Hearing something useful coming out from science is rather rare these days, probably because really interesting stuff is not published or wouldn't interest the business giants like oil producers.
Maybe this science field should be researched, ironically as it may sound, after all, our faith and the faith of our children lays within it.
not on my machine. the video frezes at 3/4 of the playthru and the sound is gone. to make it more interesting the whole browser has to be restarted to get anything in flash to work again. i'll wait for the next version, perhaps in that it will work. tested with both fx 1.5 and 2.0, none of them wanted to work properly with it, kernel is 2.6.18 no other problem with alsa sound anywhere else, go figure.
and some smartkickass javascript checks still don't realize that you have version 9 which is greater than 8, and go on complaining and redirect you somewhere else.
I have to admit i don't really "get it" either. Why should anyone buy the iphone if it's a disabled ill child ?
Any smartphone you buy today can play back multimedia and can be extended with sd memory cards to a reasonable capacity, they can run any application the customer chooses. Why the hell would anyone buy an iPhone that doesn't give you the edge nor "the price"? Apple computers some time ago were different, they had something that the other computers didn't have, for some users it was the reliability, for some others it was the comfortability and aura around it. iPhone will not have any of these, so why exactly would anyone ?
Stupid decision Steve, pull it back or give us a way to make a hack:)
a) imagine that a banner hack or html injection will let someone else's code "prototype" your login classes of ajax:) he'd run away with loads of information making the "saving queries" to somewhere else, and since the server never knew this taking place, buyakasha, info is out & nobody has any idea where it went.
b) imagine that your customer was stupid enough to use his admin account from a box that infected with a prototyping virus/worm/bugabuse before... without his knowledge a lot of hidden actions can take place, without anyone being aware of it, data can be stolen, data can be changed, and all of that with the knowledge of a little script kiddie (it doesn't really take an alan to figure out how javascript works, any 12 year old can do it)
with all the sanity in one's mind, i think people should ban internet banking in years to come, for right now this is the "front" of hackers/crackers, a front that with a keylogger worm or a prototyping your xml query classes is as easy to break as my resistance to coffee. speaking of which...
That's because you're not opposing the 2 real things here. Unnoticed hackers abusing the bugs without nones knowledge versus letting everyone know where the bug is and that it exists in the first place.
Quite often a quick-patch to slam a door is only a few lines. It may not be compatible with everything in the system, but it will do for some people. These patches never make it into the php right now and your ass is still uncovered for the skilled. It's interesting that you feel more comfortable with less information and the illusion that your application is safe.
I think he's doing the right thing and once the storm passes everyone will agree that his move was the right one. We'll have less secret bugs and more patches for the open ones than we do right now.
Everyone who has money inside the public php based applications will benefit after a year, although their sloppy code may not make them benefit from it tomorrow.
You have to know your enemy, otherwise we're stuck on a system similar to windows where unknown shite lurks around and none even not the creators have any kind of idea where that last bastard worm came from.
About keeping them connected to the net you are 100% right.
Why in the bloody hell should be these machines connected to the internet ? Why ?
There isn't really a reason for this. Backups can be managed other ways, and it's not like your going take a 5 minute break from leading your space station to read slashdot... errr...
Nasa security experts: plug the cable and watch your pr0n ^H^H^H^H^H news sites from somewhere else.
I still fail to see how anything attached to your computer or being entered through an input device will safely bypass the malware, spyware that is installed into your boxes. It's not not "mission impossible" to write snoopers for smartcards or usb controllers, or even to shadow redirect your ssl connection calls, once these are caught, the hacker won't give a **** if you are entering the security details with your nose on a laser keyboard on the kitchen sink.
Unless your machine is secure, there's nothing that stops the hijackers. So scan it daily, be careful what you run or open (occasionally even linux boxes should be scanned for rootkits the least...).
Ok, i phrased that a bit badly. I meant the builtin threads of ruby. They are as you say, not os threads, and therefor don't really always do the job in similar manners (sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse).
Perl's threads may be native, but they don't acquire the "share everything" model, but only share very certain types and that makes them a pita to use. I'm subscribed to the ithreads mailing list and it's a "deja vu" all the time. Thankfully there is Liz who is still helping the people out:) (Liz, keep up the good work:D)
I think my first choice would be python because of it's threads implementation, the second would be java if i need a performance/portability middle ground, and if i have to for speed, i'd go for just pure C. It may be old, but it doesn't mean it isn't good.
You must have tons of time on your hands for those crawlers....
A modern crawler has to overcome very annoying problems like nslookup delays and network lags that are caused by a third party. If you can write it in a threaded environment, good for you, if you can drop the "single scope" at all and go for an select or even better, epolled version that can crawl thousand sites at a time, even better.
For simple tasks even the ithreads of perl would do. But i'd suggest a language that supports threads natively (for ease of writing perhaps python or ruby ?).
Ofcourse if you are just crawling one site, a simple php script could do it as well...
Sounds like something that *BSD people did years ago, what's next news ? "netcraft confirms it, windows is dying" ?
I bet this actually breaks tons of applications just "by the way", so upgrading to vista will be a hell to people, especially developers who are used to continious behaviour etc.
And has "autorun" of cd-s finally been removed ? Was sony's trick a lesson learnt ?
I'd say it's exactly 30% more than most of people are willing to pay. Builders of big objects are big companies, and they don't care, they don't have to. If you'd make it 1% cheaper to make than just concrete, it'd be a hit. Any percent more, is a no-go.
While they are at it, if they'd manage to increase the thermal isolation benefits of the material so that it'd pay off to buy the more expensive one, they'd stand a chance, but even that chance is not remarkable.
First of all, it's certainly as simple as that, the spacecraft is probably full of software that assume that yesterday's day is smaller than today's, the substract directly to get the diff and your code would create some horrible error states we can barely imagine. They are not going to update anything with a quickpatch on the run if they are not sure that it won't break one tiny bit somewhere else. There's no space for oops-es in space.
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the autonomous part comes up when the soil is wet and wi-fi signal won't get through or when the material above the snake happens just to be a metal plate thick enough.
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That post is officially called Helpdesk ?
Just look at the thing:
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http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Image:IVotronic_img_3
It looks like total crap, no wonder that people have difficulties by using it. Why in Bill's name did they start a new design for that kind of machines, ffs. we have had ATM's around for years, just stick to it, they work and people know how they work.
Humm ... is this just me or is someone being slightly naive here ?
:p will SELinux track down someone's lazy php inclusion code which fetches the code to execute over http by mistake ? and SELinux is still quite helpless against racing bugs (2 apps writing into /tmp/foobar at once and reading it from there, bot apps will follow the rules set up, but one may start to do stuff you wouldn't expect it to ...).
SELinux as mighty as it may be for tracking skype and alike, it will probably not track down your perl script include tags (lets say mailfilters that run somewhere, or from another app, the "safe" javascript in mozilla ?). Yep you can tell your mozilla that it shouldn't read a or b or c nor should it write d, but how much can you restrict perl on your system ? or bash for this sake ? bash scripts are not always harmless
Common sense is the first line of protection, if that isn't there, even SELinux won't save you. And grandmother Bethy will never understand why she would have to go through all of this SELinux mess just to feel a bit safer.
SELinux flies over most of the dumbusers head without even the slightest buzz, they just can't track it nor keep it up, nor do they *want* to do it. FC based systems are in a way like windows machines, when they get old you install the next fc and life goes on as it would in m$ world. But some machines will have to run for years, yes you may update the kernel at times, but you'd rather not reconfigure everything again because you need a newer version of one package. If you start to upgrade stuff this will get messy and will cost time, new paths, new files, new library tricks. SELinux without the know-how how to use it, may be even a greater risk than running without it (for comfortability sake people turn too much stuff to allowed and start to lose the line of attention where when and why and as who some commands are executed, because they are "secure").
SELinux definitely is a nice helper to control the system, but it's not a complete silver bullet, people please don't praise it as one.
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But if it would, i'd love to see those pilots going numa-numa
I wonder if it's actually forbidden to dance numa-numa if the plane is going down anyway
it would be nice if google would ask for permission to upload the file. ....
.... but mozilla should fix it.
and it would be nice for mozilla to confirm "silent submit" with file inputs
i was wondering on the same issue a few days ago, how can they protect this from happening, right now, they can't
>Microsoft enough time to make
yeah it's a killer, for most people's budget. to develop, to host, to be eternally controlled by m$
over here the
I'd like to see them coming up with bazillion nanorobots. Robots that could fix eachother and the hubble itself. We know that to a level it's possible, tiny midgets running around on the hubble fixing it where it breaks and fixing eachother. Ofcourse they'd need a bunch of supplies too (hear that nasa dudes ? don't forget to give them a bunch of resistors and stuff). Would be cool, would be economic from some point.
Ofcourse there's a chance of them gaining somekind of ai and destroying the world as we know it but that's just a minor issue isn't it ?
Exactly. Going that deep is one problem, trying to move around in that enormous pressure even with a sub and literally trying see anything in that pitch-black environment sounds like a mission impossible.
:)
At already 500m depth the pressure is ~50 atmospheres, if you'd be sent down there without any protection, any squid look like a giant next to you (maybe that's what the japanese are baffling about ? cause i really don't understand that giant-squid-mania).
It's interesting however how that shark is related to those pesky fggers that we're afraid of
I second that.
Two snowflakes can be really alike, woohoo. I mean, this must be a breakpoint of science as we know it. Or is it ?
Leave the snowflakes alone, try to research if we can get something to fuel our cars after a decade or two or try to find the cure for utter stupidity. Hearing something useful coming out from science is rather rare these days, probably because really interesting stuff is not published or wouldn't interest the business giants like oil producers.
Maybe this science field should be researched, ironically as it may sound, after all, our faith and the faith of our children lays within it.
not on my machine. the video frezes at 3/4 of the playthru and the sound is gone. to make it more interesting the whole browser has to be restarted to get anything in flash to work again. i'll wait for the next version, perhaps in that it will work. tested with both fx 1.5 and 2.0, none of them wanted to work properly with it, kernel is 2.6.18 no other problem with alsa sound anywhere else, go figure.
and some smartkickass javascript checks still don't realize that you have version 9 which is greater than 8, and go on complaining and redirect you somewhere else.
I have to admit i don't really "get it" either. Why should anyone buy the iphone if it's a disabled ill child ?
Any smartphone you buy today can play back multimedia and can be extended with sd memory cards to a reasonable capacity, they can run any application the customer chooses. Why the hell would anyone buy an iPhone that doesn't give you the edge nor "the price"? Apple computers some time ago were different, they had something that the other computers didn't have, for some users it was the reliability, for some others it was the comfortability and aura around it. iPhone will not have any of these, so why exactly would anyone ?
Stupid decision Steve, pull it back or give us a way to make a hack:)
couldn't really agree more here :)
:) he'd run away with loads of information making the "saving queries" to somewhere else, and since the server never knew this taking place, buyakasha, info is out & nobody has any idea where it went.
/worm/bugabuse before... without his knowledge a lot of hidden actions can take place, without anyone being aware of it, data can be stolen, data can be changed, and all of that with the knowledge of a little script kiddie (it doesn't really take an alan to figure out how javascript works, any 12 year old can do it)
...
a) imagine that a banner hack or html injection will let someone else's code "prototype" your login classes of ajax
b) imagine that your customer was stupid enough to use his admin account from a box that infected with a prototyping virus
with all the sanity in one's mind, i think people should ban internet banking in years to come, for right now this is the "front" of hackers/crackers, a front that with a keylogger worm or a prototyping your xml query classes is as easy to break as my resistance to coffee. speaking of which
That's because you're not opposing the 2 real things here. Unnoticed hackers abusing the bugs without nones knowledge versus letting everyone know where the bug is and that it exists in the first place.
Quite often a quick-patch to slam a door is only a few lines. It may not be compatible with everything in the system, but it will do for some people. These patches never make it into the php right now and your ass is still uncovered for the skilled. It's interesting that you feel more comfortable with less information and the illusion that your application is safe.
I think he's doing the right thing and once the storm passes everyone will agree that his move was the right one. We'll have less secret bugs and more patches for the open ones than we do right now.
Everyone who has money inside the public php based applications will benefit after a year, although their sloppy code may not make them benefit from it tomorrow.
You have to know your enemy, otherwise we're stuck on a system similar to windows where unknown shite lurks around and none even not the creators have any kind of idea where that last bastard worm came from.
MenuetOS can beat your 11seconds. grin. raw assembler gives it raw power.
http://www.menuetos.net/
Good stuff for routers and other miniboxes.
About keeping them connected to the net you are 100% right.
... errr ...
Why in the bloody hell should be these machines connected to the internet ? Why ?
There isn't really a reason for this. Backups can be managed other ways, and it's not like your going take a 5 minute break from leading your space station to read slashdot
Nasa security experts: plug the cable and watch your pr0n ^H^H^H^H^H news sites from somewhere else.
I still fail to see how anything attached to your computer or being entered through an input device will safely bypass the malware, spyware that is installed into your boxes. It's not not "mission impossible" to write snoopers for smartcards or usb controllers, or even to shadow redirect your ssl connection calls, once these are caught, the hacker won't give a **** if you are entering the security details with your nose on a laser keyboard on the kitchen sink.
...).
Unless your machine is secure, there's nothing that stops the hijackers. So scan it daily, be careful what you run or open (occasionally even linux boxes should be scanned for rootkits the least
I'f mod you funny, but the funny slashdot decided to leave me without modpoints today :-/
Anyway, indeed a new landmark in science. Finally we have a way to store something on that paper that otherwise lays around uselessly, shocking!
Ok, i phrased that a bit badly. I meant the builtin threads of ruby. They are as you say, not os threads, and therefor don't really always do the job in similar manners (sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse).
:) :D)
Perl's threads may be native, but they don't acquire the "share everything" model, but only share very certain types and that makes them a pita to use. I'm subscribed to the ithreads mailing list and it's a "deja vu" all the time. Thankfully there is Liz who is still helping the people out
(Liz, keep up the good work
I think my first choice would be python because of it's threads implementation, the second would be java if i need a performance/portability middle ground, and if i have to for speed, i'd go for just pure C. It may be old, but it doesn't mean it isn't good.
You must have tons of time on your hands for those crawlers ....
A modern crawler has to overcome very annoying problems like nslookup delays and network lags that are caused by a third party. If you can write it in a threaded environment, good for you, if you can drop the "single scope" at all and go for an select or even better, epolled version that can crawl thousand sites at a time, even better.
For simple tasks even the ithreads of perl would do. But i'd suggest a language that supports threads natively (for ease of writing perhaps python or ruby ?).
Ofcourse if you are just crawling one site, a simple php script could do it as well...
If you choose mono, you choose an indirect control of microsoft all over your code. Good luck & god speed.
Sounds like something that *BSD people did years ago, what's next news ? "netcraft confirms it, windows is dying" ?
I bet this actually breaks tons of applications just "by the way", so upgrading to vista will be a hell to people, especially developers who are used to continious behaviour etc.
And has "autorun" of cd-s finally been removed ? Was sony's trick a lesson learnt ?
I'd say it's exactly 30% more than most of people are willing to pay. Builders of big objects are big companies, and they don't care, they don't have to. If you'd make it 1% cheaper to make than just concrete, it'd be a hit. Any percent more, is a no-go.
While they are at it, if they'd manage to increase the thermal isolation benefits of the material so that it'd pay off to buy the more expensive one, they'd stand a chance, but even that chance is not remarkable.
Erm ....
First of all, it's certainly as simple as that, the spacecraft is probably full of software that assume that yesterday's day is smaller than today's, the substract directly to get the diff and your code would create some horrible error states we can barely imagine. They are not going to update anything with a quickpatch on the run if they are not sure that it won't break one tiny bit somewhere else. There's no space for oops-es in space.
but does he also shoot dof from horse ?