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Um, 'standard Realtek ones'?
The rtl8139 NIC has long been a 'standard' NIC for me - I'd buy 5 at $10 each. it's the same chipset put on motherboards since forever, I believe (and now they often have the rtl8169 or similar). They have always worked well for general Linux purposes. I don't remember having a problem with them back then, though I do remember using a lot of 3com 10/100 cards around that time, too so I may be mistaken.
It could be, if people in India were able to work instead of just play office politics to a science.
You don't outsource IT work to India if you want the product to be of any use to anyone 2-3 years from now. That's twice the case for systems or DBA work. (Just ask an immigrated Indian if it's a good idea... they won't even do it.)
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One of the most memorable forks of Debian was Stormix (not mentioned on WP): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormix
For those who don't remember, or weren't there: it was a very nicely cleaned up Debian installer with additional driver support and simplified configuration. It ran very well on a wide range of systems and was way, way ahead of pretty much everything else with respect to software installation and system configuration.
The Stormix company, when it failed, became Progeny, if I recall correctly. Progeny was a greatly used add-on repository for Debian which eventually had a lot of the functionality added into the core of Debian.
Without Stormix, later efforts like Knoppix and Ubuntu would not have been possible.
Most Americans would be just fine if the Insurance (as well as government) meddling went away.
Everything would be cheaper. All this 'single payer' stuff does is make it so that the gov't (aka taxpayers) will foot the bill for the ever-bloating healthcare system in the US. Premiums go up? No problem, that just means more taxes. And then the hospitals feel justified in raising their prices to get their piece of the pie, or to help pay their doctors who now also have increased liability insurance, or all of the above - and on and on.
Most people would be shocked to find out that most of a hospital's staff is actually busy with bureaucratic bullshit, not actual healthcare. IT in healthcare is a massive cost and a general boondoggle as well.
What Europeans and Canadians don't seem to realize that any good idea they implement and works will, in all likelihood, be a complete clusterfuck here due to how corporations are run in the US. Special interests will be fed first. It will not meet the initial scope of the policy/plan/etc. It will go severely over budget, and costs will mostly be offset to be discovered years later, after everything has been implemented and it'd "cost too much" to reverse or make any changes to the system which might benefit the common man.
I don't understand why you "old world" countries remove your appendixes, or why it seems so common to have problems with them.
I have mine. Everyone in my extended family has their's. I have known only a handful of people that I know of who have had their's removed, and three of them were European with two of them injuring themselves requiring it being removed.
I did something similar to this when I was in college, for a Palm Pilot. The same would apply for a tablet.
I 'form fit' common packing box cardboard around the device and then used gaff tape to hold it all together. I left a hole at the bottom of the sleeve so i could quickly push it up and out of the sleeve, if desired, and dropping the device while in the sleeve would lead to no damage.
I then superglued a nylon strap with two carbiner-type belt clips under it around the top,and old denim to the gaff tape with a velcro flap to cover it all. It was pretty straight nerdy but it was functional, and I could clip it to my bag, my belt, etc.
If you're going 60 miles an hour or more, you're almost invariably trusting your life to a combination of road construction, road conditions, and a $150(ish) tire. And how well do you trust the frame welds?
And I personally see the liberation of riding to be a huge thrill. I'm not talking about recklessness, I'm just talking about the liberty of being on a bike in general.
(I live 40 miles from Sturgis... bikes are culture here.)
No, these distros have solved nothing other than the problem of things being too straightforward and consistently manageable.
That's where Arch and Gentoo fall flat. If you want to be able to consistently manage things from one machine to another? You've got a headache in front of you. This stems from the fact that they use packaging techniques which are only marginally less cumbersome than flat ZIP files with README.txts.
In other words, Arch/Gentoo solve the problem only slightly more thoroughly than manually downloading the tarballs from the project sites and building it yourself.
If you could get a single paramedic across town in 5 minutes, versus the time it'd take several to mount and spin up a helocopter, etc. this seems fairly practical to me. That said, a jetpack just seems impractical at this point - it's science fiction. We can't illicit enough thrust from something so compact as to be practical.
That said, it's got a 30 mile range. They really need to think about a rotobird variant, either single or double blade. I'm guessing it could be done for less than $50k, bringing it well within range of the motorcycle/thrill seeker enthusiast...
Yeah, but you're running NFS4, Samba4, BIND9, and Postfix with a bunch of extras bolted on (dnsrbl, postscreen, etc.) which didn't exist 20 years ago!:P
Not that there's much of a difference, mind you...
As an administrator, the only thing on that list which is even remotely appealing is the last item, and only then in a limited (say, cloud-type) environment. Everything else just reads as "look, something else to avoid knowing how to program, while at the same time providing a great big mess on which you can hang your hat at the end of the day because it's difficult to debug/troubleshoot with traditional language knowledge".
As a perl-writing Linux admin, I had to write powershell a couple years ago to do what would've been fairly easy with perl (progmatically, at least): a dozen or so nested logic structures, conditions, and what have you, based on the textual descriptors of various Sharepoint elements/objects, the end goal being to migrate multiple different Sharepoint environments into a single organized hierarchy.
This didn't work well. Neither perl-like text based sorting or the like worked well (because EVERYTHING is an object) or conventional OO type thinking. Quirky is an understatement. As for excruciatingly slow? Also an understatement: simple textual list sorts took FOREVER. And if that wasn't bad enough, sorting through a handful of 1-5MB XML files at a time (yes, using the proper XML functions) ballooned memory use to gigabytes. I ultimately resorted to dropping things to XML, doing the real work in perl, and then feeding the result back into Powershell - it was quicker, and the system didn't OOM in the process.
It isn't Powershell that's neat; it's Microsoft's integration of PS into its core OS functionality (and every other product) to allow for management and manipulation. That on its own isn't enough to justify using Powershell, unfortunately. It's just too damn unwieldy: it's like the undead afterbirth of COBOL, Java, Perl, and VB - leveraging only the unwieldy parts of each.
Thankfully, you're right: there isn't a burdensome, poorly conceived and implemented by Indians, management scripting language for Linux. But for everything else? We've got purpose built tools which do their one job, and do it well. (perl + puppet/chef, on the other hand, seems like a fairly close comparison to WMI...)
And? This has been the case for over a decade now. You can hire a dozen Windows admins for a dime - and each will have a dozen or so systems they can effectively manage.
With MS's bare bones Windows installs, PowerShell management, etc. and destruction of the 'old' MSC way of managing Exchange, this is becoming much less the case. Any reasonably complex Windows site is now going to require similar levels of skill to manage as a comparable Linux environment. The tools to do so, however, will be significantly less mature, with a smaller community: there are still far more Perl Monkeys than PowerShell Punks (or whatever) out there, and using puppet is a far cry more intuitive and known than something like the more advanced/esoteric PowerShell management functionality necessarily leveraged for a non-stock Windows installation.
What do you do for these 'medium sized businesses', desktop support? I can't even conceive of using a tablet exclusively with as much typing, etc. I have to do on a daily basis, let alone one that's as software crippled as Windows tablets.
Those different OSes were all the same OS with different role based licensing. They did it so they could get clients out there without 'server' functionality, while still making a profit on the Server releases.
Do you really want to pay $1500 (or whatever it costs for a Windows Server license now) for a Desktop OS? I'll stick to the crippleware (or I would, if I still used Windows).
I've been waiting for this type of device to surface for some time now (pun not intended) - about 7 or 8 years, I imagine. It's a device long past its due.
The difficulty is in the modal UI. I've seen some Android devices/projects attempt it, and it could be done fairly easily, it just hasn't seen terribly wide-scale utilization yet.
My bet is that if we do see it, it'll either be through Apple or Google Nexus devices. You'll get a phone, and for $50-100 more, you can get a 'tablet' dock, which provides a battery and larger screen. For another $100, you can dock it into a keyboard with a battery pack, similar to how the Transformer tablets work today. The biggest downside to this approach is that you still have 3 'devices', but can only use one at a time (eg. I can't easily watch a movie on my tablet while typing something up on the keyboard like I can with 3 discreet devices available today).
I don't know if there's necessarily a market for it. Cloud services kind of negate it's desirability - or they would, if they integrated more heavily with people's entire device ecosystem.
The later, Android 4.1+ tablets are pretty damn awesome. THe hardware specs are on par with a phone from a year ago, more or less, and they're typically pretty damn close to AOSP or Cyanogenmod in terms of Android. Build quality? Not the best but not horrid, either. Certainly passable for something likely to be dropped and manhandled by kids with filthy hands.
They are really missing the bus. A couple points stand out:
1) Microsoft needs device fanfare to accompany Windows 8.1
What, and 8.1 won't stand on its own? There has typically been two, maybe three primary reasons to upgrade Windows to a newer version (or replace the old) for 99% of everyone:
1) A new device is acquired and hardware support is lacking for the version you've already got 2) Planned obsolescence of software - you need the newer version of some program, which isn't available on the older version. 3) Corporate management benefits
Sorry, MS has never benefited from the "new shiney" Apple benefits from with every release of hardware. Their products have had to stand on their own merit. If a tablet comes out running Windows and is a success, it will be due to the benefit of any features of the OS more so than the tablet hardware itself.
the device would arrive in time not only for the holiday season, but also to cash in on user interest in Windows 8.1
There is user interest in Windows 8.1? This is news to me. Presumably this interest comes from the 5 people who bought Windows 8 laptops or desktops? Everyone, from corporations to home users, is trying brazenly to stay on Windows 7 or migrate from XP to Windows 7 (still, sadly), not to mention avoid Windows Server 2012 and the parasitic changes made to other Server 2012 products (Exchange 2012, here's lookin' at you, kid) which have overwhelmingly gimped their capabilities, management, and general functionality (though all reports of performance seem positive).
Regardless of why there isn't interest in 8.x, there simply isn't (just like Vista was/is hated, regardless of the merit of said hatred).
Surface devices released next year, meanwhile, could capitalize on enterprise hardware upgrades, which are expected to pick up as Windows XP's April 8, 2014 end-of-service date nears."
Companies will not be replacing their plain-jane XP desktops and laptops with Surface tablets, sorry. They're going to be buying plain-jane desktops and upgrading them to Windows 7, and sinking their teeth in for the long term (or simply upgrading the assets they have today). The software ecology is entirely too disruptive in 8 to allow for a clean "enterprise" migration - and the reliance on old versions of IE for corporate sites is still significant here.
I don't see Surface tablets succeeding if they a) ship with hard drives, or b) come with a price point more than 20% lower than capable but not-name-brand Android tablets: in terms of desirability, that's roughly where Surface sits. People have gmail, they use google for searching, and mostly watch youtube videos with their time. Surface isn't going there, in any regards - and most people don't have a Live account.
plus, what good is a jury consisting of people chosen by the court in secret who can only give a verdict that's secret and can't speak of it to anyone....
And, if what's happened to the "Osama" Seal Team 6 and various other people who might be privy to high-profile operational information is any indication, they'd probably be Disappeared anyway, regardless of their alliances. Things are getting bad.
"What you're not seeing is people actually abusing these programs."
So, aside from ignoring the fact that on a weekly if not daily basis there is a news report of these programs resulting in an abuse of liberty, we're just supposed to ignore the fact that the programs' very existence is an abuse?
There is absolutely zero reason to believe anything Obama says; on the contrary, there is good evidence to support believing the opposite of what he says is true, based entirely on his own record of honesty.
More precisely, is there anything Obama has said since he gained the public eye in 2007 which hasn't been 180 degrees from the actual truth?
I think the only thing he's been honest about at this point is his intention of making gas/diesel/etc. more expensive and a couple slip-ups about healthcare not being available for everyone.
Let's think about this. You're a sysadmin for the NSA; you're not actually all that fond of what's going on there at this point. You catch wind that there's a 90% likelihood you will lose your job, and if you don't lose your job, you will have 10 times as much work hoisted onto your shoulders - so you're looking for a new job regardless.
This is true for every one of your coworkers as well, many of which will likely be pre-emptively disgruntled about their firings, and many will have at least marginally anti-government sentiments (as appears to be the case for pretty much everyone in our society at this point, barring a handful of idiots in NYC and San Francisco).
What do you think is going to happen? They still have access to everything and more or less know they're going to be sacked "just because" in what amounts to a pogrom. More data WILL be leaked - some through the media, some directly. It will be a massive shitstorm.
The irony of this epically foolish announcement is so incredibly thick. You operate a publicly funded secret organization which has been abusing the trust of the American people for decades, and you think the people you hire to perform devious, illegal work are going to be "trustworthy"? What a fucko.
When you're trying to do x (develop), and people keep asking you to do y (aka make a political/legal change), it's highly frustrating and disillusioning because you've got no time for x anymore. "You don't want me to develop? Fine, fuck you, do it yourself."
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Um, 'standard Realtek ones'?
The rtl8139 NIC has long been a 'standard' NIC for me - I'd buy 5 at $10 each. it's the same chipset put on motherboards since forever, I believe (and now they often have the rtl8169 or similar). They have always worked well for general Linux purposes. I don't remember having a problem with them back then, though I do remember using a lot of 3com 10/100 cards around that time, too so I may be mistaken.
It could be, if people in India were able to work instead of just play office politics to a science.
You don't outsource IT work to India if you want the product to be of any use to anyone 2-3 years from now. That's twice the case for systems or DBA work. (Just ask an immigrated Indian if it's a good idea... they won't even do it.)
One of the most memorable forks of Debian was Stormix (not mentioned on WP): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormix
For those who don't remember, or weren't there: it was a very nicely cleaned up Debian installer with additional driver support and simplified configuration. It ran very well on a wide range of systems and was way, way ahead of pretty much everything else with respect to software installation and system configuration.
The Stormix company, when it failed, became Progeny, if I recall correctly. Progeny was a greatly used add-on repository for Debian which eventually had a lot of the functionality added into the core of Debian.
Without Stormix, later efforts like Knoppix and Ubuntu would not have been possible.
Most Americans would be just fine if the Insurance (as well as government) meddling went away.
Everything would be cheaper. All this 'single payer' stuff does is make it so that the gov't (aka taxpayers) will foot the bill for the ever-bloating healthcare system in the US. Premiums go up? No problem, that just means more taxes. And then the hospitals feel justified in raising their prices to get their piece of the pie, or to help pay their doctors who now also have increased liability insurance, or all of the above - and on and on.
Most people would be shocked to find out that most of a hospital's staff is actually busy with bureaucratic bullshit, not actual healthcare. IT in healthcare is a massive cost and a general boondoggle as well.
What Europeans and Canadians don't seem to realize that any good idea they implement and works will, in all likelihood, be a complete clusterfuck here due to how corporations are run in the US. Special interests will be fed first. It will not meet the initial scope of the policy/plan/etc. It will go severely over budget, and costs will mostly be offset to be discovered years later, after everything has been implemented and it'd "cost too much" to reverse or make any changes to the system which might benefit the common man.
I don't understand why you "old world" countries remove your appendixes, or why it seems so common to have problems with them.
I have mine. Everyone in my extended family has their's. I have known only a handful of people that I know of who have had their's removed, and three of them were European with two of them injuring themselves requiring it being removed.
What's the deal?
I did something similar to this when I was in college, for a Palm Pilot. The same would apply for a tablet.
I 'form fit' common packing box cardboard around the device and then used gaff tape to hold it all together. I left a hole at the bottom of the sleeve so i could quickly push it up and out of the sleeve, if desired, and dropping the device while in the sleeve would lead to no damage.
I then superglued a nylon strap with two carbiner-type belt clips under it around the top,and old denim to the gaff tape with a velcro flap to cover it all. It was pretty straight nerdy but it was functional, and I could clip it to my bag, my belt, etc.
On the matter of bikes and cost...
If you're going 60 miles an hour or more, you're almost invariably trusting your life to a combination of road construction, road conditions, and a $150(ish) tire. And how well do you trust the frame welds?
And I personally see the liberation of riding to be a huge thrill. I'm not talking about recklessness, I'm just talking about the liberty of being on a bike in general.
(I live 40 miles from Sturgis... bikes are culture here.)
No, these distros have solved nothing other than the problem of things being too straightforward and consistently manageable.
That's where Arch and Gentoo fall flat. If you want to be able to consistently manage things from one machine to another? You've got a headache in front of you. This stems from the fact that they use packaging techniques which are only marginally less cumbersome than flat ZIP files with README.txts.
In other words, Arch/Gentoo solve the problem only slightly more thoroughly than manually downloading the tarballs from the project sites and building it yourself.
If you could get a single paramedic across town in 5 minutes, versus the time it'd take several to mount and spin up a helocopter, etc. this seems fairly practical to me. That said, a jetpack just seems impractical at this point - it's science fiction. We can't illicit enough thrust from something so compact as to be practical.
That said, it's got a 30 mile range. They really need to think about a rotobird variant, either single or double blade. I'm guessing it could be done for less than $50k, bringing it well within range of the motorcycle/thrill seeker enthusiast...
Yeah, but you're running NFS4, Samba4, BIND9, and Postfix with a bunch of extras bolted on (dnsrbl, postscreen, etc.) which didn't exist 20 years ago! :P
Not that there's much of a difference, mind you...
As an administrator, the only thing on that list which is even remotely appealing is the last item, and only then in a limited (say, cloud-type) environment. Everything else just reads as "look, something else to avoid knowing how to program, while at the same time providing a great big mess on which you can hang your hat at the end of the day because it's difficult to debug/troubleshoot with traditional language knowledge".
As a perl-writing Linux admin, I had to write powershell a couple years ago to do what would've been fairly easy with perl (progmatically, at least): a dozen or so nested logic structures, conditions, and what have you, based on the textual descriptors of various Sharepoint elements/objects, the end goal being to migrate multiple different Sharepoint environments into a single organized hierarchy.
This didn't work well. Neither perl-like text based sorting or the like worked well (because EVERYTHING is an object) or conventional OO type thinking. Quirky is an understatement. As for excruciatingly slow? Also an understatement: simple textual list sorts took FOREVER. And if that wasn't bad enough, sorting through a handful of 1-5MB XML files at a time (yes, using the proper XML functions) ballooned memory use to gigabytes. I ultimately resorted to dropping things to XML, doing the real work in perl, and then feeding the result back into Powershell - it was quicker, and the system didn't OOM in the process.
It isn't Powershell that's neat; it's Microsoft's integration of PS into its core OS functionality (and every other product) to allow for management and manipulation. That on its own isn't enough to justify using Powershell, unfortunately. It's just too damn unwieldy: it's like the undead afterbirth of COBOL, Java, Perl, and VB - leveraging only the unwieldy parts of each.
Thankfully, you're right: there isn't a burdensome, poorly conceived and implemented by Indians, management scripting language for Linux. But for everything else? We've got purpose built tools which do their one job, and do it well. (perl + puppet/chef, on the other hand, seems like a fairly close comparison to WMI...)
And? This has been the case for over a decade now. You can hire a dozen Windows admins for a dime - and each will have a dozen or so systems they can effectively manage.
With MS's bare bones Windows installs, PowerShell management, etc. and destruction of the 'old' MSC way of managing Exchange, this is becoming much less the case. Any reasonably complex Windows site is now going to require similar levels of skill to manage as a comparable Linux environment. The tools to do so, however, will be significantly less mature, with a smaller community: there are still far more Perl Monkeys than PowerShell Punks (or whatever) out there, and using puppet is a far cry more intuitive and known than something like the more advanced/esoteric PowerShell management functionality necessarily leveraged for a non-stock Windows installation.
In other words, IIS does nothing much better than Apache?
I played the hell out of Chip's Challenge. It was pretty much the only reason I saw to have Windows installed, at the time.
What do you do for these 'medium sized businesses', desktop support? I can't even conceive of using a tablet exclusively with as much typing, etc. I have to do on a daily basis, let alone one that's as software crippled as Windows tablets.
Those different OSes were all the same OS with different role based licensing. They did it so they could get clients out there without 'server' functionality, while still making a profit on the Server releases.
Do you really want to pay $1500 (or whatever it costs for a Windows Server license now) for a Desktop OS? I'll stick to the crippleware (or I would, if I still used Windows).
I've been waiting for this type of device to surface for some time now (pun not intended) - about 7 or 8 years, I imagine. It's a device long past its due.
The difficulty is in the modal UI. I've seen some Android devices /projects attempt it, and it could be done fairly easily, it just hasn't seen terribly wide-scale utilization yet.
My bet is that if we do see it, it'll either be through Apple or Google Nexus devices. You'll get a phone, and for $50-100 more, you can get a 'tablet' dock, which provides a battery and larger screen. For another $100, you can dock it into a keyboard with a battery pack, similar to how the Transformer tablets work today. The biggest downside to this approach is that you still have 3 'devices', but can only use one at a time (eg. I can't easily watch a movie on my tablet while typing something up on the keyboard like I can with 3 discreet devices available today).
I don't know if there's necessarily a market for it. Cloud services kind of negate it's desirability - or they would, if they integrated more heavily with people's entire device ecosystem.
That was a couple years ago.
The later, Android 4.1+ tablets are pretty damn awesome. THe hardware specs are on par with a phone from a year ago, more or less, and they're typically pretty damn close to AOSP or Cyanogenmod in terms of Android. Build quality? Not the best but not horrid, either. Certainly passable for something likely to be dropped and manhandled by kids with filthy hands.
They are really missing the bus. A couple points stand out:
1) Microsoft needs device fanfare to accompany Windows 8.1
What, and 8.1 won't stand on its own? There has typically been two, maybe three primary reasons to upgrade Windows to a newer version (or replace the old) for 99% of everyone:
1) A new device is acquired and hardware support is lacking for the version you've already got
2) Planned obsolescence of software - you need the newer version of some program, which isn't available on the older version.
3) Corporate management benefits
Sorry, MS has never benefited from the "new shiney" Apple benefits from with every release of hardware. Their products have had to stand on their own merit. If a tablet comes out running Windows and is a success, it will be due to the benefit of any features of the OS more so than the tablet hardware itself.
the device would arrive in time not only for the holiday season, but also to cash in on user interest in Windows 8.1
There is user interest in Windows 8.1? This is news to me. Presumably this interest comes from the 5 people who bought Windows 8 laptops or desktops? Everyone, from corporations to home users, is trying brazenly to stay on Windows 7 or migrate from XP to Windows 7 (still, sadly), not to mention avoid Windows Server 2012 and the parasitic changes made to other Server 2012 products (Exchange 2012, here's lookin' at you, kid) which have overwhelmingly gimped their capabilities, management, and general functionality (though all reports of performance seem positive).
Regardless of why there isn't interest in 8.x, there simply isn't (just like Vista was/is hated, regardless of the merit of said hatred).
Surface devices released next year, meanwhile, could capitalize on enterprise hardware upgrades, which are expected to pick up as Windows XP's April 8, 2014 end-of-service date nears."
Companies will not be replacing their plain-jane XP desktops and laptops with Surface tablets, sorry. They're going to be buying plain-jane desktops and upgrading them to Windows 7, and sinking their teeth in for the long term (or simply upgrading the assets they have today). The software ecology is entirely too disruptive in 8 to allow for a clean "enterprise" migration - and the reliance on old versions of IE for corporate sites is still significant here.
I don't see Surface tablets succeeding if they a) ship with hard drives, or b) come with a price point more than 20% lower than capable but not-name-brand Android tablets: in terms of desirability, that's roughly where Surface sits. People have gmail, they use google for searching, and mostly watch youtube videos with their time. Surface isn't going there, in any regards - and most people don't have a Live account.
plus, what good is a jury consisting of people chosen by the court in secret who can only give a verdict that's secret and can't speak of it to anyone....
And, if what's happened to the "Osama" Seal Team 6 and various other people who might be privy to high-profile operational information is any indication, they'd probably be Disappeared anyway, regardless of their alliances. Things are getting bad.
"What you're not seeing is people actually abusing these programs."
So, aside from ignoring the fact that on a weekly if not daily basis there is a news report of these programs resulting in an abuse of liberty, we're just supposed to ignore the fact that the programs' very existence is an abuse?
There is absolutely zero reason to believe anything Obama says; on the contrary, there is good evidence to support believing the opposite of what he says is true, based entirely on his own record of honesty.
More precisely, is there anything Obama has said since he gained the public eye in 2007 which hasn't been 180 degrees from the actual truth?
I think the only thing he's been honest about at this point is his intention of making gas/diesel/etc. more expensive and a couple slip-ups about healthcare not being available for everyone.
Previous access?
Let's think about this. You're a sysadmin for the NSA; you're not actually all that fond of what's going on there at this point. You catch wind that there's a 90% likelihood you will lose your job, and if you don't lose your job, you will have 10 times as much work hoisted onto your shoulders - so you're looking for a new job regardless.
This is true for every one of your coworkers as well, many of which will likely be pre-emptively disgruntled about their firings, and many will have at least marginally anti-government sentiments (as appears to be the case for pretty much everyone in our society at this point, barring a handful of idiots in NYC and San Francisco).
What do you think is going to happen? They still have access to everything and more or less know they're going to be sacked "just because" in what amounts to a pogrom. More data WILL be leaked - some through the media, some directly. It will be a massive shitstorm.
The irony of this epically foolish announcement is so incredibly thick. You operate a publicly funded secret organization which has been abusing the trust of the American people for decades, and you think the people you hire to perform devious, illegal work are going to be "trustworthy"? What a fucko.
When you're trying to do x (develop), and people keep asking you to do y (aka make a political/legal change), it's highly frustrating and disillusioning because you've got no time for x anymore. "You don't want me to develop? Fine, fuck you, do it yourself."