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The First 'Practical' Jetpack May Be On Sale In Two Years

Daniel_Stuckey writes "This week, New Zealand-based company Martin Aircraft became certified to take what it calls 'the world's first practical jetpack' out for a series of manned test flights. If all goes well, the company plans to start selling a consumer version of the jetpack in 2015, starting at $150,000 to $200,000 and eventually dropping to $100,000. 'For us it's a very important step because it moves it out of what I call a dream into something which I believe we're now in a position to commercialize and take forward very quickly,' CEO Peter Coker told the AFP."

127 comments

  1. Could somebody... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could someone just lend me $150,000.. I have something I need to buy.

    1. Re:Could somebody... by capnkr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You'd better "earmark" a portion of that $150K for some serious hearing protection...

      Watched the video and *phew* is that thing ever noisy, and in a range which is bothersome - like an overlarge mosquito.

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    2. Re:Could somebody... by durrr · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a ducted fanpack not a jetpack.
      Not to be mistaken for a ducted fannypack.

    3. Re:Could somebody... by RenderSeven · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure! Please forward your name, social security number, and bank information and I'll have the funds transferred to, er, from Nigeria immediately.

    4. Re:Could somebody... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And what about flying debris this thing will kick up?

    5. Re:Could somebody... by harlequinn · · Score: 1

      Agreed, not a jetpack. It's not even a ducted-fan-pack, since you can't put it on your back (that's the "pack" part in jetpack).

      In terms of size, calling it a jetpack is like calling a truck a small runabout.

  2. It's not a jet pack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just sayin'

    1. Re:It's not a jet pack by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      Yeah, more like a 400lb deathtrap with a seatbelt.

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    2. Re:It's not a jet pack by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just sayin'

      Yep, noticed that 33 seconds into the video when it didn't run out of fuel.

    3. Re:It's not a jet pack by 91degrees · · Score: 2

      At least having a seatbelt makes it a safe deathtrap.

  3. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the people that brought you the horseless carriage comes... the chairless helicopter!

  4. Practical by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    30 minutes max... 400 pounds.... starting at $150,000

    I think this guy has a skewed idea of practical.

    1. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      50km/hr for 30 minutes is 25km.

      Halve that for a return trip, and halve it again for a safety margin, and anyone who lives within 6km of work now has a viable method of commuting that completely avoids traffic.

    2. Re:Practical by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 3, Informative

      It *is* practical, if you are a narcissistic, sociopathic, self-anointed demigod, bent on showering the world with your Putin-esque, machismo mojo.

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    3. Re:Practical by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      I think this guy has a skewed idea of practical.

      It's all relative. This is at least conceivably practical for specialized, high-value uses. When you compare to earlier jet packs, which had similar cost and weight but lasted only three or four minutes, it's quite practical.

    4. Re:Practical by durrr · · Score: 1

      It says 60mph in the vice article. And depending on your workplace you could perhaps refill the jetpack before you fly back home.
      Even if we're conservative with our fuel use that still let us live some ~15 kilometer from work and reach it with little concern for traffic and roads, in ~10-15 minutes only! Now weather is a different matter. As is fuel use... and maintenance requirements.

      For $100k, if it's easy to fly and safe I could see it become quite common. Once they get the range up a bit more along with less noise it could be a must have.

    5. Re:Practical by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      If you could get a single paramedic across town in 5 minutes, versus the time it'd take several to mount and spin up a helocopter, etc. this seems fairly practical to me. That said, a jetpack just seems impractical at this point - it's science fiction. We can't illicit enough thrust from something so compact as to be practical.

      That said, it's got a 30 mile range. They really need to think about a rotobird variant, either single or double blade. I'm guessing it could be done for less than $50k, bringing it well within range of the motorcycle/thrill seeker enthusiast...

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    6. Re:Practical by RenderSeven · · Score: 2

      It *is* practical, if you are a narcissistic, sociopathic, self-anointed demigod, bent on showering the world with your Putin-esque, machismo mojo.

      So, for politicians, CEO's and actors?

    7. Re:Practical by jones_supa · · Score: 5, Funny

      30 minutes max... 400 pounds....

      A Pentium 4 laptop on battery?

    8. Re:Practical by tibit · · Score: 1

      The price is "a bit" impractical. If this 400lb includes the chute with an automatic ejector that triggers upon loss of thrust (measured by an accelerometer), then it's OK. It'd be a deathtrap without a chute that will unfurl and slow you down with a minimum loss of altitude. I'd think if the survivable loss-of-thrust altitude was 25m, I'd consider buying it after it dropped to $65k or so. This means that the chute must have pyro ejectors and whatnot, and it better be demonstrated that it actually works :)

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    9. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, I'd take one if I could afford it. I commute about 10km as the crow flies, so it would be perfect.

    10. Re:Practical by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      If you could get a single paramedic across town in 5 minutes,

      Then you still have to get him, and the patient, back. And you may not have heard, but Americans are getting heavier by the year -- we're having to upgrade to heavy duty gurneys, MRI machines with reinforced steel loaders... people are having to be cut out of their homes for transport because they've turned all Jabba the Hut. You're not going to take two average americans, put them on a scale, and come in at under 400 pounds. Sorry. But even if you could, people lie about their weight and that means you'll be showing up with a medic dropping in ala Minority Report... only to wind up doing absolutely nothing. And this is ignoring the medical equipment he has to carry!

      No. This not "fairly practical". This is barely even feasible, and certainly not a replacement for existing technology.

      We can't illicit enough thrust from something so compact as to be practical.

      I think you're confused. What you meant to say was we don't have anything with a high enough energy density and can be easily converted to power/thrust to be a useful fuel source for a jet pack. Thrust isn't the problem; I could strap a DC-10 engine to your back. It would definately provide enough thrust. It would simply crush you to death on landing. -_-

      That said, it's got a 30 mile range. They really need to think about a rotobird variant, either single or double blade.

      Jet. Pack. 'nuff said.

      I'm guessing it could be done for less than $50k, bringing it well within range of the motorcycle/thrill seeker enthusiast...

      First, a motorcycle rider isn't in the same category as a "Thrill seeker". Maybe the people that ride around in Ninjas and crotch rockets... but the rest of us who ride have a term for those people: Organ donors. Most people ride motorcycles because they're liberating, they're fuel efficient, and because they have fast reflexes. Mostly that's because of people who drive cars stupidly... motorcyclists are amongst the most safety-conscious people on the road. Okay, rant done.

      Second... $50k? Really? Would you trust strapping yourself into a device that, should any major component fail will have the last few seconds of your life be you screaming "OH FUUUUUUUUUUUU---" as you crater into the Earth... that was built by the lowest bidder?

      Jet packs have a very thin safety margin. You can't get away from that. So if you want something that's even remotely safe, you're going to need something that is regularly maintained by experts, and whose components are of the absolute highest quality. Because out of the hundreds of components required, only one has to fail to lead to a human hamburger moment. $50 is unrealistic.

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    11. Re:Practical by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      The jetpack should provide more than enough thrust for a paramedic, a small bottle of oxygen, a handful of epi pens, and a portable AED. That rapid first response could be quite valuable in terms of stabilizing the patient in many cases even if it does still take a few extra minutes for the ambulance to arrive.

      That said, even in spite of that, the entire concept still borders on insane. :-)

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    12. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "elicit"

      Flying cops?

    13. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you could get a single paramedic across town in 5 minutes,

      Then you still have to get him, and the patient, back.

      Yes, and while you're waiting for that ambulance to arrive you have a paramedic on-site keeping the patient alive.

      I've seen this sort of thing from you so often that I'm starting to wonder if you intentionally miss the points people are trying to make, or if you're in such a hurry to rant about how the US is going to Hell that you've stopped reading the posts you reply to.

      Second... $50k? Really? Would you trust strapping yourself into a device that, should any major component fail will have the last few seconds of your life be you screaming "OH FUUUUUUUUUUUU---" as you crater into the Earth... that was built by the lowest bidder?

      If it's been through the famously anal regulatory system that is the FAA (or local equivalent), then yes. Do you somehow think that Boeing et al don't try to make their aircraft as cheaply as possible too?

    14. Re:Practical by Quasimodem · · Score: 1

      Actually, I believe you would need two (2) Jetpacks to fly a cow.

      And then all those long bovine flying lessons.

    15. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or need 30 minutes of air time to search rugged bush for someone who is missing?
      Or have one on a firefighters ladder truck for high rise rescue, or coastal rescue, much faster to fire up the fan(ny) pack than get an RIB out though heavy surf. Pleasure flights and joy rides, and the flight time is simlar to other ultra light aircraft you can fly without a full pilots licence. Easier to store than a gyro copter, that still can't hover and is not VTOL.
      Aerial photography? Much cheaper than a chopper flight.
      The Bell Rocket belt still gets used for publicity and demo flights, and that can only fly for 30 seconds or so.
      I think the Martin Jetpack will make a killing!

    16. Re:Practical by Quasimodem · · Score: 1

      That 150 grand breaks down as 10 thousand for the Jetpack, 60 thousand public damage and liability insurance and 80 thousand hospitalization / life insurance with an extra 50 thousand if you wish to be covered for "collision with the ground."

    17. Re:Practical by unkiereamus · · Score: 1

      First, a motorcycle rider isn't in the same category as a "Thrill seeker". Maybe the people that ride around in Ninjas and crotch rockets... but the rest of us who ride have a term for those people: Organ donors. Most people ride motorcycles because they're liberating, they're fuel efficient, and because they have fast reflexes. Mostly that's because of people who drive cars stupidly... motorcyclists are amongst the most safety-conscious people on the road. Okay, rant done.

      I take some objection to that notion. Possibly thrill seeker is a little extreme, but motorcycle riders can certainly be be categorized at least as being non-risk adverse. There is no doubt that riding a motorcycle is vastly more dangerous than driving a car, is you're someone who categorizes that as important, and especially if you're not going to counterbalance that fact in the decision making process that motorcycles are vastly more fun than cars (or as you call it, liberating), then you're not going to ride one.

      I understand your desire not to be lumped in with squids, which is perhaps what GP was thinking, but motorcycle riders are thrill seekers.

      Right now, btw, I have the credentials to talk about this, given that I'm currently bed confined s/p surgery to fix the leg I broke after my front tire blew out (a week and a half after I replaced both tires!)...and I'm anxious because I expect to get my bike back tomorrow so I can find out what I'm going to need to do to it to get it running by the time I'm healed.

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    18. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That might have been a 2 on a scale of 1-10 funny, if the ac had misspelled crow, cow. Since he didn't, it's an 11 on a scale of 1-10 stupid.

    19. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course if you have the disposable income to get that thing, you can easily pay somebody else to do the driving on your workday commute for you. Or you're likely to be in a position at your job where you have a say in whether or not you telecommute. As far as practicality goes, his ducted fan flyer is pretty much a toy outside a few mundane uses.

    20. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, for politicians, CEO's and actors?

      And BMW drivers...get these jerks off the road.

    21. Re:Practical by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      It says 60mph in the vice article.

      With traffic, it'll be 50mph :-)

      Thing is, I can imagine this thing carrying a parachute for an emergency, but it would have to be flying real high to be able to deploy it in time if engine cuts out unpredictably. Still leaves the question of take-off and landings (if engine dies when you're say 50 feet of the ground...). With airplanes and helicopters you can at least glide back.... with this thing, it would just fall like a rock.

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    22. Re:Practical by rullywowr · · Score: 1

      Or have one on a firefighters ladder truck for high rise rescue, or coastal rescue, much faster to fire up the fan(ny) pack than get an RIB out though heavy surf.

      Oh yeah, because having a large ducted fan near a fire is always the best way to put it out.

    23. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live 5km from work. I walk to and back from work every day.
      It doesn't avoid traffic completely but it is good enough and keeps me in shape.

      This is however great for those who live between 5 and 6 km from work.

    24. Re:Practical by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Then you still have to get him, and the patient, back.

      No you don't. There are already motorbike and bicycle paramedics who can get the patient assessed and stabilised before the ambulance gets there.

      Not that I expect this to be a practical alternative, but that point at least is invalid.

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    25. Re:Practical by macson_g · · Score: 2

      anyone who lives within 6km of work now has a viable method of commuting that completely avoids traffic

      It's called 'bicycle', and it's slightly cheaper than 150k$.

    26. Re:Practical by Spudley · · Score: 1

      50km/hr for 30 minutes is 25km.

      Halve that for a return trip, and halve it again for a safety margin, and anyone who lives within 6km of work now has a viable method of commuting that completely avoids traffic.

      Anyone who lives within 6km of work and earns a bucketload of cash.

      That narrows it down a bit further.

      Still I'm sure they'll manage to sell enough of them to make some money. At least until the first fatal accident, anyway.

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    27. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the first fatal accidents were what finished off the car, the train and the aeroplane.

    28. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, we might as well abandon all research and development into new transport technology.

      Fat people exist, companies like to save money, and the exact safety margins of jet packs and how they are affected by the total cost of the product is known only to OP, although of course not specified. OPs genius insights into aeronautics allow them to make the $50K vs $100K calculation immediately, where most mere humans would only strive to get within an order of magnitude after carefully studying the subject.

      Hum.

    29. Re:Practical by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      On the matter of bikes and cost...

      If you're going 60 miles an hour or more, you're almost invariably trusting your life to a combination of road construction, road conditions, and a $150(ish) tire. And how well do you trust the frame welds?

      And I personally see the liberation of riding to be a huge thrill. I'm not talking about recklessness, I'm just talking about the liberty of being on a bike in general.

      (I live 40 miles from Sturgis... bikes are culture here.)

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    30. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called 'bicycle', and it's slightly cheaper than 150k$.

      I've biked to work many times, but if you're avoiding traffic on a bike it's likely you're breaking the law and endangering yourself and others. Something I see the majority of bicycles doing.

    31. Re:Practical by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      If you're going 60 miles an hour or more, you're almost invariably trusting your life to a combination of road construction, road conditions, and a $150(ish) tire. And how well do you trust the frame welds?

      I can see the road and the road conditions. I've had tires blow out and it doesn't immediately result in the car exploding, killing everyone inside... instead it just makes a wub-wub-wub sound like it's dub-stepping and the car starts to pull hard to one side. Assuming you aren't in the middle of a turn at freeway speeds, it's a non-event. Aaaand if you are... well, let's just say you can skip the morning coffee because the morning commute just took a turn for the interesting.

      And as far as trusting the frame welds... most modern cars are a unibody design. They don't have welds. But let's say they did, and hundreds of them decided to give way simultaniously while driving... the fact is that I'm still surrounded by a couple of tons of plastic, metal, and rubber. Physics dictates this is going to end much better for me than firing my naked body into a concrete barrier at 60 MPH. The car is travelling at the same speed as I am, whether its in pieces or not... and it's going to be what absorbs most of the impact, not my delicate fleshy bits.

      So even if the car disintegrates around me... as often happens in high-speed collisions with cars anyway... it's going to end a lot better for me than having a hundred plus pounds of shit strapped to my back and being fired at terminal velocity into the pavement.

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    32. Re:Practical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In most communities, riding a bicycle on footpaths and sidewalks is illegal. Everywhere, it is dangerous to pedestrians.

  5. Next up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now we just need to get a Kickstarter going to fund Spinfusor development.

  6. Ultralight VTOL by radtea · · Score: 1

    This is the VTOL equivalent of the ultra-light aircraft: take away everything but the barest essentials, and a "jet pack" is what you have left.

    Unlike conventional ultralights, "the barest essentials" in this case don't even include wings, due to the greater thrust of jet engines.

    Computer control is clearly very important to making this thing work--I bet there is a very clever stablization algorithm at work in the background, and various emergency control and landing modes that make it relatively idiot-proof.

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    1. Re:Ultralight VTOL by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      due to the greater thrust of jet engines.

      This machine uses ducted fans. Not jets.

    2. Re:Ultralight VTOL by tibit · · Score: 1

      Emergency control? On what, a ducted fan? If you lose thrust, there better be a bunch of pyros that eject and forcibly unfurl a chute for you, otherwise you're dead.

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    3. Re:Ultralight VTOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes there is. They did a high altitude hover and pyro chute deployment test last year. Awesome view!

    4. Re:Ultralight VTOL by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      make it relatively idiot-proof.

      That sounds like a challenge!

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    5. Re:Ultralight VTOL by slick7 · · Score: 1

      Back in the sixties, Popular Science had on the front cover a true jetpack developed by Bell Helicopters. I believe there was some demonstration videos. Then, something happened, as Hawking would say and nothing more was ever heard.

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    6. Re:Ultralight VTOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Captain Murphey was right, it's an impossibility.

  7. More like a ultralight helicopter by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    This thing is heavier than some ultralight helicopters.

    If you want an ultralight helicopter, they're available for as little as $6,000.

    1. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This thing is heavier than some ultralight helicopters.

      If you want an ultralight helicopter, they're available for as little as $6,000.

      FYI, My wife will not be happy about you providing that link. You did a baaaaad thing :)

      I, on the other hand, can't think of a more fun way to get myself killed! Well, not for the low, low price of 6 grand, anyway.

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    2. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And unlike a rotorfx, this 'jetpack' will require a pilots license due to the weight.

    3. Re: More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The deposit starts at 6k; the price for the whole thing starts at 28k.

    4. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the pricing a bit more carefully. They're certainly not that cheap.

    5. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice try but the $6000 is just the *deposit* for the full kit. The cost of the whole build-it-yourself kit is $28,000. If you want them to build it you're looking at $34,500. Still a far cry cheaper than this "jetpack" and a hell of a lot safer.

    6. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by durrr · · Score: 1

      The AIR model costs $28000 in a self-assembly kit.
      Still, that is suprisingly cheap.

    7. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Ken_g6 · · Score: 1

      This thing is heavier than some ultralight helicopters.

      If you want an ultralight helicopter, they're available for as little as $6,000.

      FYI, My wife will not be happy about you providing that link. You did a baaaaad thing :)

      I, on the other hand, can't think of a more fun way to get myself killed! Well, not for the low, low price of 6 grand, anyway.

      I, on the other hand, would prefer to avoid the risk of falling to my death. So what I'd really like to get is something like this. It's an Oculus Rift + a quadcopter. (But the model they use there is too expensive.)

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    8. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by tibit · · Score: 1

      Nope, that's the deposit. The cheapest one (AIR) goes for $28,000 in kit form, with discount applied.

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    9. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I, on the other hand, am in awe of the drone possibilities in a craft that costs so little. Delete the pilot and his instrumentation and add their weight in a fuel can and control hardware...

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    10. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by RenderSeven · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can probably get one cheaper at the Estate Sale

    11. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by tibit · · Score: 1

      Well yes, I agree, it would be "the" estate sale to be at :) Now just good luck finding such an estate sale, and we're all set.

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    12. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

      Yes, but regulations aside, learning to fly either a helicopter or jet-pack before using one yourself is probably a lifespan extending activity.

      I wonder how you learn to fly the jetpack. There are lots of 2-person helicopters to learn in. The jetpack seems to offer a lot of wile-e-coyote possibilities if you don't know exactly what you are doing.

    13. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $28,000 for the full kit, $34,500 assembled.
      the $6000 is a deposit

    14. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by delt0r · · Score: 1

      For 6 grand and a year or so of jumps, you can be well on the way to that first base jump with a wing suit.

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    15. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Helicopter? Silly idiot. Call it a jetpack and you could get waay more than 6 Gs.

      Really though, I wonder which millionaire will get shot down as a drone first? I wonder if the pope will take this idea on, rather than his bubble-glass thingy. You know, soar above the crowd like the sky-daddy that he represents.

    16. Re:More like a ultralight helicopter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the cost of repairing a wrecked one...

  8. hmm by orbitalia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only it's not practical, a jet, or a pack.

    1. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also you can't put turbines in ground effect like that, they won't last 10 flights. A totally idiotic idea.

    2. Re:hmm by xyra132 · · Score: 1

      How come? Is it because they are vertically mounted? There have been wing in ground effect aircraft with turbines. Genuinely interested, as have an interest in ground effect vehicles (mainly propellor based models, but still)

  9. Noise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The best part is how quiet it is ... can't want until hundreds of people are commuting in that :)

  10. Within Two Years? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

    I thought they were available now.

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  11. I'd rather have by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A portable, one man blimp with pedal power.

    just try to keep me out of your cactus farm now!

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  12. Where's the "Acme" label? by dasgoober · · Score: 1

    Looks like the Coyote strapped some jets to grampa's rocking chair.

  13. sounds more like a really big duct fan engine by ClassicASP · · Score: 1

    seen those in RC planes. they're not jet engines, but they'll fly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDykslL954

  14. Prepare yourself... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

    Prepare yourself for a shock. I'm the Rocketeer.

    1. Re:Prepare yourself... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      The Rockewho?

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  15. Practically, practical. by Lashat · · Score: 1

    You can say it's the "first practical jetpack".

    It costs over $100,000.
    It's not allowed in "urban areas"

    Not practical for 99.999999999999999% of people.
    I could add more 9's but it isn't practical.

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  16. Loud by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
    Very loud.

    I can't imagine a situation where these would be allowed unfettered flight over urban areas because of the noise. From the video, it seems like full ear protection is required even for the ground crew. The noise limits the useability.

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    1. Re:Loud by jonyen · · Score: 1

      First person to buy one of these is going to get shot down for their obnoxiousness. Maybe I'll consider getting one after the early adopter phase is over.

  17. Please change title to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Super Expensive Fan Chair.

    Thanks.

  18. oblig. haiku by avandesande · · Score: 2

    floating above earth
    ariel shriek of mower
    meet a grassy death

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  19. I'll take a skycar please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds of a mini Moller Skycar M400 M400, except it works. I've been following the M400 since about 1990 in hopes it might actually make it somewhere, unfortunately, this is as good at it has gotten. I've never understood why the last decade in computer advances haven't lent something towards stability for that crazy thing. Maybe they should take a lesson from this. I've given up on Moller's sky car, yet things like this make me still dream about it. Oh well...

  20. SkyCar Please!!! by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    Reminds of a mini Moller Skycar M400 , except it works. I've been following the M400 since about 1990 in hopes it might actually make it somewhere, unfortunately, this is as good at it has gotten. never understood why the last decade in computer advances haven't lent something towards stability for that crazy thing. Maybe they should take a lesson from this. I've given up on Moller's sky car, yet things like this make me still dream about it. Oh well...

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  21. Awesome by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can't wait to take my jetpack to the Hyperloop station so I can commute to my job in Atlantis.

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    1. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now i can pick the drones out of the sky and keep them with my butterfly collection.
      i am the King of the Rocket Men...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Rocket_Men

  22. A Beowulf cluster of leaf blowers... by cruff · · Score: 1

    Apparently this was built using a Beowulf cluster of leaf blowers. Your neighbors will be thrilled with you when you jet off at 6 AM. But it sure looks damn cool to fly around in.

    1. Re:A Beowulf cluster of leaf blowers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought it would be interesting to put wings on a leaf blower and turn it into a giant RC plane. If it works, I'd build a GPS-guided version, set the coordinates to someplace out in the desert, and attach it to all the blowers in my area.

  23. Math lesson by somepunk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not practical for 99.999999999999999% of people.

    99% is all but one in a hundred, or 1e2.. add a power of ten for each 9, and you get.. 1e17, or all but 1 in 100 million billion. People? That's more people than ever existed. I think this thing is at least practical for the promoters, or at least whomever has been recieving the money they spend on devlopment and promotion. You'd still be off if you counted each person's individual cells.

    I could add more 9's

    No, you've added quite enough already.

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  24. How is this better than an ultralight helicopter? by joe_frisch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look at the Mosquito aviation stuff: http://www.innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/mosqspec.asp
    1 hour endurance at 70mph at 5 gph. 1/3 the horsepower and higher cruise speed.
    The mosquito costs $30K. for a kit, 200 hours build time.

    People build helicopters rather than lift-jets because moving a large volume of air slowly is more efficient than moving a small volume of air quickly. (force is goes as (M/s)*V, power as (M/s)*V^2).

    A compact jet pack you could wear would be great, the this isn't it.

  25. Where stealth isn't an issue. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Besides the hearing loss of those who fly without hearing protection, your not going to be sneaking up on anything.
    I can see one at every circus or event that want themselves noticed, loose gravel/dirt flyover areas to really get some attention.

    On the other hand for Wildlife management this would be very helpful if there's a need to constantly "herd" animals;
    not to mention being fun as heck to fly.

    1. Re:Where stealth isn't an issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except you can already see people flying around at events with a parachute and a huge fan on their back. They fly around for hours and don't have to run the fan so constantly.

  26. Great. by rjmx · · Score: 1

    Now we're going to be deluged with nitwits careening about the place.

    Rich nitwits, but still nitwits.

    1. Re:Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, it could be a new sport - rich nitwit skeet shooting! Not to mention all the crashes - Darwin your work is never done.

  27. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by TheSync · · Score: 1

    So why are these ultralight helicopters mainly controlled by a person? It seems to me they would be safer if fly-bi-wire with a computer doing most of the work of stability.

  28. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by erice · · Score: 1

    The helicopter needs a lot more room to land. Now this isn't terribly important until the "jetpack" is cleared for flying in populated areas but if/when it is the ability to land in a very small space will be a big deal.

  29. Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like a cross between a drum set and a giant bag clip.

  30. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

    The jet blast will need a fair bit of open space as well, Not sure how it compares to the helicopeter. (which has a 18' rotor diameter).

    I don't know what the jetpack does in the event of an engine failure. The helicopter can autorotate (at least in theory -its tricky in real life).

  31. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by Deadstick · · Score: 2

    I don't know what the jetpack does in the event of an engine failure.

    It does 32.174 feet per second squared.

  32. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by slinches · · Score: 1

    So why are these ultralight helicopters mainly controlled by a person? It seems to me they would be safer if fly-bi-wire with a computer doing most of the work of stability.

    Weight. If you add the mass of the computer control and actuation systems necessary for fly by wire it would no longer qualify for the ultralight category. Oh, and it would cost a lot more than $30k, but possibly less than the $150k "jetpack" proposed here.

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  33. What happens when it quits? by pearl298 · · Score: 1

    The FAA has only one question: "What happens when it quits?"

    For whatever reason there you are you are 200+ feet in the air with NOTHING holding you up!

    Helicopters can autorotate (sorta) and save themselnes MOST of the time, but a jet pack?

    In aviation they refer to this as a "once in a lifetime event".

    1. Re:What happens when it quits? by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

      Maybe it should include a "dispersal charge" that activates if the engine fails above 100' AGL to insure that no large pieces of machine or pilot reach the ground.....

    2. Re:What happens when it quits? by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 1

      That's why it has a rocket deployed parachute.

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  34. This is not a jet pack. by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be a jet pack, I need to be able to carry it on my back. Walk around with it, and then take to the sky at will.

    That was the dream of the jet pack. That it would give a person the ability to walk around and then leap into the sky at will.

    This thing does fly... but you can't really walk with it.

    Its sort of like calling something a sea plane when it can't float. Yeah... it might fly... but... if it sinks when it hits the water its not a sea plane.

    This isn't a jet pack. Try again.

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    1. Re:This is not a jet pack. by gx5000 · · Score: 1

      I guess the "Not so portable flying device" was ditched as a boring name huh ;)

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    2. Re:This is not a jet pack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to remind everyone, this idea of a jetpack will never, ever, ever, ever exist. There will never, ever, ever, ever be a backpack that is easy to carry around but also propel you into the sky at will. Now, maybe, just maybe, there will be a jetpack that one person *can* carry on their own, but it'll be so heavy still that carrying it around all day will be impossible. Also taking off at will will never be possible, there will always be some level of clearance required (like a special place where people are able to "take off" while someone else monitors conditions in that area, and perhaps counts between takeoffs.

      And if I'm ever wrong about any of this, then watch the fuck out people, the world just got way worse.

    3. Re:This is not a jet pack. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      disagree... thrust to mass ratios from several different engine designs are more then capable of lifting a grown man off the ground without exceeding 100 or so pounds.

      You will need something like a jet engine... possibly with some sort of rocket assist to propel you initially off the ground... and you might want to have some lifting surface make gliding more practical. But saying its technically impossible to make an engine that powerful in that form factor/mass is overly pessimistic.

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  35. Obligatory Jet Pack video by drvelocity · · Score: 1

    A real world feasibility study regarding Jet Packs as a mainstream transportation tool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X18UYqzV0s Needless to say the results are positively SHOCKING.

  36. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by flanders123 · · Score: 1

    People build helicopters rather than lift-jets because moving a large volume of air slowly is more efficient than moving a small volume of air quickly. (force is goes as (M/s)*V, power as (M/s)*V^2).

    ...An convenient illustration of this is the Atlas Human Powered Helicopter which uses massive slow-moving rotors to compensate for a human's puny power output.

  37. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by linatux · · Score: 1

    One advantage the Martin has is that the blades are enclosed. I'd have better luck getting permission to land a Martin in the carpark than a Mosquito.

    30 minutes at max speed of around 60 mph : would probably be enough for me to do a return trip on one tank - if only the damn airport wasn't in the way!
    (Not that I have a spare US$150k)

  38. fuel is on top of that as well FAA fines / jail ti by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    fuel is on top of that as well FAA fines / jail time if you mess with other air traffic.

  39. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not really.

    Source: 25 year aerospace engineer

  40. From the instruction manual of the jetpack: by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    Be careful not to wear it upside down.

  41. Re:fuel is on top of that as well FAA fines / jail by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure where, if anywhere, this would fall under FAA rules, but I would bet that it works out that you can;t fly it period outside of model airplane or model rocketry areas.

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  42. Been there done that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We already did this with less ages ago and it looks cooler...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jet

  43. Seriously by gx5000 · · Score: 1

    I can only see tow things coming out of this.... Putin Flying one to wow the crowds and Chuck Norris crashing one in the desert. Nice though, but still, a world where these would be flying around would be rather a dangerous place indeed since most people still haven't mastered driving.

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    1. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think about it, it would be a catastrophe unless they were all controlled by computers. For one thing, a lot of people would probably die just trying to get it to move forward(so, strict licensing). On top of that, there aren't really any streets in the air. There are for things like planes, but that's all strictly controlled by...again...computers. For those who don't know, planes move from one way-point to another way-point in a more or less straight line, and each plane is designated a specific altitude, plus or minus a couple hundred feet for safety. It's not a perfect system, but they have on-board devices that try to detect collisions with other aircraft ahead of time.

      If computers controlled them, we wouldn't have to worry about collisions, we could actually make 'roads' in the air, and people wouldn't have to know how to maintain level flight, or how to maneuver in the air at all.

      That being said, we should do it for cars before we try doing it for hovercraft.

  44. Hiller flying plaform from 50 years ago by b_dover · · Score: 1

    This thing seems not better and much larger than the Hiller flying segway from 50 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiller_VZ-1_Pawnee

    1. Re:Hiller flying plaform from 50 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The VZ-1 would work beautifully with a modern motorbike engine. For the mass of the original pair of 40HP 2-strokes you can now get about 180HP in a single 4-stroke motorbike engine with gearbox. That's more than twice the power to lift with. Say goodbye to ground-effect limitations.

  45. The bicycle doesn't avoid traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just sayin'.

  46. Commando Cody by whizbang77045 · · Score: 1

    Where is Commando Cody when you need him?

  47. All it needs by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

    All this needs is a microphone, loudspeaker and vocoder so you can convince all of the onlookers below that you are their supreme overlord.

  48. Re:How is this better than an ultralight helicopte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A similar link was posted above, which included ones for $6,000. Which puts it on the edge of practicality for most people (except for the training needed and the issue of safety), whereas $150K isn't practical for except for a very few people.

  49. Re:fuel is on top of that as well FAA fines / jail by tibit · · Score: 1

    In other words: it might be more practical for me to go the 5 miles to work by ejecting myself (somehow) along a ballistic trajectory, and using a parasail for terminal deceleration and guidance :)

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