Either you a) have docking tubes that connect the car with the exit, and people walk through that b) the nose of the car docks with the tunnel end, you seal off the car with a ballon/tire like seal
It's called an "airlock", you dumbfuck.
How about learning some science, physics, and basic vacuum terminology, or would that take too much time away from talking about shit you know nothing about? Learn about vacuum transfer mechanisms, outgassing, and vacuum technology in general and you might not come off sounding like such an imbecile.
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Yes, obviously. But as the car touches nothing it is irrelevant how fast it runs,
We're talking about the forces transferred to the surrounding containment structure. Try to keep up, honey.
Once again, some random old guy on Slashdot has all the answers that teams of highly paid engineers and PhDs building an actual system have failed to account for.
That is correct.
And by the way, I'm not the only one pointing out all the places they fucked up when squirting out their engineering fantasy.
Why don't you hop in your flying car and zoom down there, let us know how they're coming along?
Everything you just said is wrong, but such is the nature of hyperbullshit loop nutters. Deny physics and reality while you argue from ignorance.
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The forces are independent of the diameter.
Oh. My. God. You didn't really just say that, did you? That was a 100% TOTAL FAIL, and you should learn some basic physics. Holy shit, that may be one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. I should print out your post and frame it.
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the Hyperloop gets not vented either... why would it?
Why? Ummm, so people can get in and out, you fool. The airlocks have to be completely vented to atmosphere and then pumped down again, and since they won't be pumped down to the level of the main tube they'll introduce residual air into the main tube. All of the vehicles will be exposed to raw atmosphere over and over and over and over, which means they'll they'll outgas indefinitely, further contaminating the main tube. You really don't know anything about vacuum technology, do you?
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The vehicles in the Hyperloop are floating on mag less
Oh, so that means the weight of the vehicles just magically goes away and isn't transferred to anything, right? Magnets, HOW DO THEY FUCKIN' WORK?
(Even though they may be floating on mag lev, the weight still has to go somewhere, science-boy. That's basic basic basic physics.)
Thanks for playing, angel'o'sphere, it's been a real hoot finding out just how ignorant you are.
Yes, that is exactly what it is, in every sense of the word. As someone below said, "You're a complete moron."
The entire hyperbullshit loop is a vacuum system, that's the very basis of its design. The fact that you don't understand this means that you are, in fact, an idiot.
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that the pipe will need to get a new vacuum for every trip, hence needs to be evacuated for every trip and will not work because of moisture
No, that's not what's been said. The entire hyperbullshit loop will have to be pumped down and kept pumped down, which is where a lot of the expense and impracticability will come into play. I worked with vacuum extensively early in my career and I can tell you that you simply do not know what you're talking about. Getting a good, clean vacuum in the size of container they're proposing is incredibly difficult at best, and is never going to be practical at the scale they intend.
To recap:
1) The entire hyperbullshit loop is a complex vacuum system that will be very difficult and expensive to operate effectively, and,
"Hard Sysops Are Resurrecting BBS's From The 1980s"
No they're not. A few cranks are emulating legacy point-to-point systems because it's an insanely hipster thing to do, but no one is resurrecting BBS'.
Next on slashdot, ""Die-Hard Cowboys Are Resurrecting Buggy-whips From The 1880s"
Heck, they do this now with Large Hadron Collider.
LOL!
The tube diameter of the LHC is 5cm (external diameter 53 mm, wall thickness 1.5 mm). So it's only 5 cm across while the hyperbullshit loop is supposed to be 2 meters across.
The LHC is a bitch to evacuate and keep evacuated, and they almost never EVER vent it to atmosphere, unlike parts of the hyperbullshit loop which will be regularly and frequently vented to raw atmosphere. . Oh, and don't forget that the Large Hadron Collider doesn't have multiple vehicles zooming around inside it at 200 MPH.
If you can't see the basic flaws in your (lack of) reasoning, no amount of information will clue you in to just how impractical the hyperbullshit loop really is.
It's just NOT going to happen, no matter how bad the hyperloop fanbois want it to happen.
yeah, I can see why you remain AC. I would too after putting such BS out there.
The fact is that, anonymous or not, he's right.
Pulling a vacuum in all the miles and miles and miles of tubing will require an immense amount of power to acheive, and an immense amount of power to keep it under useable vacuum.
The expansion and shrinkage of the tunnel is also an enormous engineering obstacle that is unlikely to be solved at any practical price.
A hyperloop is not a "vacuum system". It is constantly under vacuum.
Holy fuck, your level of stupidity is epic.
How do you think they'll get this magical "always on" vacuum without a vacuum system? Do you even know what a vacuum system is or how the term is being applied here?
Hyperloops have nothing to do with "vacuum systems".
What kind of head injury do you have, Angel? The whole premise of the hyperloop is that the vehicles run in a vacuum. That's literally what it's all about.
Learn how vacuum system work before you comment you fucking moron.
^^^^^^This, time 1000.
Obtaining and maintaining thevacuum level that would be required for the hyperloop to work is no small task. Most people don't understand what's required to pull a decent vacuum and keep it at an acceptable level.
For a structure as big as the hyperloop just the outgassing of the cars and other internal parts alone will be a major impediment to achieving the required vacuum.
Even worse, you re-expose the entire vehicle to atmosphere regularly giving it no real chance to ever fully degas.
The hyperloop will never be built to any real scale and will never, ever fulfill the grandeur of its claims.
"But the new technology could help the ecommerce giant with a problem that has long vexed it."
And that problem is....human employees.
Human employees are always demanding stuff like food, shelter, bathroom breaks, medical care, adequate lighting, temperatures above freezing....if we could just get rid of them everything would be wonderful and we'd be living in Utopia!
Sounds like Denis Grisak is an asshole. I repeat, it sounds like Denis Grisak is an asshole.
I'd laugh if he tried to sue me for daring to say so. Any jury would take one look at this case and throw his skanky, vindictive ass right out of court.
None of the so-called "advantages" mentioned means anything to me.
I'd rather relax in the comfort of my own home, free to watch at my own pace and sound level. Plus there are no dickheads talking on the phone, no screaming toddlers or obnoxious teenagers, no over-priced boxes of M&Ms, and I can drink as much as I like of whatever I want.
Best of all, when I'm done I don't have to drive home because I'm already there.
You're just hoping to score political points by scaring morons into believing it has. Sad, really.
It worked like a charm to get a delusional, draft-dodging pathological liar elected to the highest office in the land, so frankly it seems like a pretty effective strategy to me.
I loved your Chronicles! https://www.amazon.com/Chronic... And I also liked the other three novels you wrote about your adventures too (including one about when a backup copy of your program was activated back on Earth)!
Oh, that's nothing. Hell, I'm so old that I went to high school with Jesus. He signed the stone tablets my yearbook was carved on.
You know the Dead Sea? I was there when it was only sick. True story. And do any of you ever thank me for planting all those redwoods in California? No, you ungrateful young'uns!
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Either you
a) have docking tubes that connect the car with the exit, and people walk through that
b) the nose of the car docks with the tunnel end, you seal off the car with a ballon/tire like seal
It's called an "airlock", you dumbfuck.
How about learning some science, physics, and basic vacuum terminology, or would that take too much time away from talking about shit you know nothing about? Learn about vacuum transfer mechanisms, outgassing, and vacuum technology in general and you might not come off sounding like such an imbecile.
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Yes, obviously. But as the car touches nothing it is irrelevant how fast it runs,
We're talking about the forces transferred to the surrounding containment structure. Try to keep up, honey.
Once again, some random old guy on Slashdot has all the answers that teams of highly paid engineers and PhDs building an actual system have failed to account for.
That is correct.
And by the way, I'm not the only one pointing out all the places they fucked up when squirting out their engineering fantasy.
Why don't you hop in your flying car and zoom down there, let us know how they're coming along?
If by "real soon now" you mean since the '70s.
Yes, in niche applications, but no modern doctor routinely suggests the use of leeches and I think we both know that.
The stronger the vacuum the less air friction and therefore the higher the maximum speed possible.
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
You're missing the point. That has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
Vinyl records making comeback as well.
And leeches, don't forget leeches. Doctors will be using them again real soon now.
Everything you just said is wrong, but such is the nature of hyperbullshit loop nutters. Deny physics and reality while you argue from ignorance.
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The forces are independent of the diameter.
Oh. My. God. You didn't really just say that, did you? That was a 100% TOTAL FAIL, and you should learn some basic physics. Holy shit, that may be one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. I should print out your post and frame it.
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the Hyperloop gets not vented either ... why would it?
Why? Ummm, so people can get in and out, you fool.
The airlocks have to be completely vented to atmosphere and then pumped down again, and since they won't be pumped down to the level of the main tube they'll introduce residual air into the main tube. All of the vehicles will be exposed to raw atmosphere over and over and over and over, which means they'll they'll outgas indefinitely, further contaminating the main tube. You really don't know anything about vacuum technology, do you?
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The vehicles in the Hyperloop are floating on mag less
Oh, so that means the weight of the vehicles just magically goes away and isn't transferred to anything, right? Magnets, HOW DO THEY FUCKIN' WORK?
(Even though they may be floating on mag lev, the weight still has to go somewhere, science-boy. That's basic basic basic physics.)
Thanks for playing, angel'o'sphere, it's been a real hoot finding out just how ignorant you are.
That does not make it a "vacuum system"
Yes, that is exactly what it is, in every sense of the word. As someone below said, "You're a complete moron."
The entire hyperbullshit loop is a vacuum system, that's the very basis of its design. The fact that you don't understand this means that you are, in fact, an idiot.
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that the pipe will need to get a new vacuum for every trip, hence needs to be evacuated for every trip and will not work because of moisture
No, that's not what's been said. The entire hyperbullshit loop will have to be pumped down and kept pumped down, which is where a lot of the expense and impracticability will come into play. I worked with vacuum extensively early in my career and I can tell you that you simply do not know what you're talking about. Getting a good, clean vacuum in the size of container they're proposing is incredibly difficult at best, and is never going to be practical at the scale they intend.
To recap:
1) The entire hyperbullshit loop is a complex vacuum system that will be very difficult and expensive to operate effectively, and,
2) You're a moron.
Let me guess, SQL injection strikes again?
Remember "1200 Baud, no lamers"?
"Hard Sysops Are Resurrecting BBS's From The 1980s"
No they're not. A few cranks are emulating legacy point-to-point systems because it's an insanely hipster thing to do, but no one is resurrecting BBS'.
Next on slashdot, ""Die-Hard Cowboys Are Resurrecting Buggy-whips From The 1880s"
Heck, they do this now with Large Hadron Collider.
LOL!
The tube diameter of the LHC is 5cm (external diameter 53 mm, wall thickness 1.5 mm). So it's only 5 cm across while the hyperbullshit loop is supposed to be 2 meters across.
The LHC is a bitch to evacuate and keep evacuated, and they almost never EVER vent it to atmosphere, unlike parts of the hyperbullshit loop which will be regularly and frequently vented to raw atmosphere.
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Oh, and don't forget that the Large Hadron Collider doesn't have multiple vehicles zooming around inside it at 200 MPH.
If you can't see the basic flaws in your (lack of) reasoning, no amount of information will clue you in to just how impractical the hyperbullshit loop really is.
It's just NOT going to happen, no matter how bad the hyperloop fanbois want it to happen.
yeah, I can see why you remain AC. I would too after putting such BS out there.
The fact is that, anonymous or not, he's right.
Pulling a vacuum in all the miles and miles and miles of tubing will require an immense amount of power to acheive, and an immense amount of power to keep it under useable vacuum.
The expansion and shrinkage of the tunnel is also an enormous engineering obstacle that is unlikely to be solved at any practical price.
A hyperloop is not a "vacuum system".
It is constantly under vacuum.
Holy fuck, your level of stupidity is epic.
How do you think they'll get this magical "always on" vacuum without a vacuum system? Do you even know what a vacuum system is or how the term is being applied here?
Hyperloops have nothing to do with "vacuum systems".
What kind of head injury do you have, Angel? The whole premise of the hyperloop is that the vehicles run in a vacuum. That's literally what it's all about.
Learn how vacuum system work before you comment you fucking moron.
^^^^^^This, time 1000.
Obtaining and maintaining thevacuum level that would be required for the hyperloop to work is no small task. Most people don't understand what's required to pull a decent vacuum and keep it at an acceptable level.
For a structure as big as the hyperloop just the outgassing of the cars and other internal parts alone will be a major impediment to achieving the required vacuum.
Even worse, you re-expose the entire vehicle to atmosphere regularly giving it no real chance to ever fully degas.
The hyperloop will never be built to any real scale and will never, ever fulfill the grandeur of its claims.
Hyperloop will never be affected by weather cancellations.
...because they'll never be built.
"But the new technology could help the ecommerce giant with a problem that has long vexed it."
And that problem is....human employees.
Human employees are always demanding stuff like food, shelter, bathroom breaks, medical care, adequate lighting, temperatures above freezing....if we could just get rid of them everything would be wonderful and we'd be living in Utopia!
Microsoft: "Hey, that's pretty cool. We wish we'd thought of that...but we didn't, so now we're going to stop you from doing it."
Now all you have to do is connect to wifi and these pricks can screw you. Thanks, Broadcom!
Hold on....I need an internet connection to this asshole's server just to open mygarage door?
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
Sounds like Denis Grisak is an asshole. I repeat, it sounds like Denis Grisak is an asshole.
I'd laugh if he tried to sue me for daring to say so. Any jury would take one look at this case and throw his skanky, vindictive ass right out of court.
None of the so-called "advantages" mentioned means anything to me.
I'd rather relax in the comfort of my own home, free to watch at my own pace and sound level. Plus there are no dickheads talking on the phone, no screaming toddlers or obnoxious teenagers, no over-priced boxes of M&Ms, and I can drink as much as I like of whatever I want.
Best of all, when I'm done I don't have to drive home because I'm already there.
"Bill Would Stop Warrantless Border Device Searches of US Citizens"
Thanks, Bill! I owe ya one!
You're just hoping to score political points by scaring morons into believing it has. Sad, really.
It worked like a charm to get a delusional, draft-dodging pathological liar elected to the highest office in the land, so frankly it seems like a pretty effective strategy to me.
I loved your Chronicles!
https://www.amazon.com/Chronic...
And I also liked the other three novels you wrote about your adventures too (including one about when a backup copy of your program was activated back on Earth)!
Oh, that's nothing. Hell, I'm so old that I went to high school with Jesus. He signed the stone tablets my yearbook was carved on.
You know the Dead Sea? I was there when it was only sick. True story. And do any of you ever thank me for planting all those redwoods in California? No, you ungrateful young'uns!