Dude, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make it easy for her to get online while on the road. Call the hotel about wireless, get her dial-up networking working and show her how to use it, whatever it takes. That was never my point. My point was that she (and a lot of other people), are very confused about wireless networking technology.
I honestly think that wireless netwoking companies are intentionally marketing their products as wireless *Internet*. In other words, "Buy this card, and you can get on the Internet from anywhere!" Have you seen the Centrino ads? This is the impression they're trying to give. Users don't know, and don't really care how this works. Ask them how they think that these cards are going to tap into the Internet, and they either don't know or think that it somehow connects like their cell phone does. They may be out of range out in the middle of nowhere, but for all intents and purposes, they can get on the internet from anywhere.
And no I'm not rude when I ask this, but I have asked this of many non-techie folks and gotten this answer. The marketing has led them to believe that these things are wireless modems.
No, I explain to her that in order for her to get on the Internet with her wireless network card, she'll have to be someplace where a wireless network is available. So we call the hotel. No, they don't have wireless internet access. They don't have internet access at all.
What's frustrating is that we've gone through this several times, and she still doesn't get it. Really, I'm not joking. I've given her the exact above explaination and she still comes back to me with the same question.
And, no, I don't call her dickhead, because she isn't one. I call you dickhead, because you are a dickhead. Oh, and thanks for assuming I treat my friends/boss like shit and that I'm some sort of condesending asshole LAN nazi.
No I understand her just fine. I know exactly what she means, and she doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, I know that some hotels offer wireless internet access. I'm not stupid. Thanks for assuming that I am, dickhead.
I've found that among my technically-not-so-savvy friends, family, and coworkers, the real misunderstanding about wireless networks is that they confuse them with wireless *Internet*.
Every time my boss goes out of town, she asks me to make sure that her Airport works correctly so she can get on the Internet from her hotel. And everytime, I have to explain to her that she has a wireless network card, not a wireless Internet card.
For example some of code drops from our clients don't even compile!
I used to write software that got "dropped" down to a client and heard this all the time from them. Guess what, that code *did* compile. We'd given them instructions on how to do it (since compiling in Windows isn't always as easy as "make"), and the incompetant VB clones couldn't get past the fact that we didn't use the inane VC++ IDE tools to compile stuff.
"Why can't you just send a project file so I can compile this?", says client.
"Because this project is huge. It has ten modules, three of which are further submodularized. The build system built into VC++ just can't handle the things we need to do.", says I.
"Huh?"
Why don't they just get that maybe they should get someone who knows what they're doing?
Except nothing new has been added in nearly a month. There is no way for folks to upload their own torrent to react in a reasonable amount of time to the speed that the slashdot effect takes place.
I know that bonehead. The original poster claimed that this experiment was safe because of Hawking radiation. Well, if we're checking for Hawking radiation, then isn't that because that we believe that there is some small, even minscule, chance that it doesn't exist? Doesn't that make justifiying the safety of it based on what we're looking for a little wrong? It doesn't make logical sense.
Perhaps, you should try to read the meaning of my statements and the context next time.
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Except I can't upload my own torrent, nor does it provide a page for newbies on how to create one. This is what made some of the big torrent sites so popular. Users didn't depend on some l33t webmaster to seed everything. All the users could contribute. That's exactly the problem with scarywater. Unless the webmaster is on top of things, beats the slashdot effect to get the file (which is needed for seeding), and does it in reasonable amount of time, it's worthless.
We need something big enough that at some point it gets mentioned in the FAQ.
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How about a non-copyright-infringing make-your-own-torrent web site? I'm sure it wouldn't get the bandwidth load that the other torrent sites. Then random people on slashdot could actually just do this themselves and post a comment with a torrent link.
Ummm... why would anyone want to their welding robots to accessible over the internet.
They wouldn't, but they might want that welding robot to be able to communicate with a supplier's server. While you could do this with NAT and other such hacks, why not do it the proper way with a real IP address?
That's the reason for 10.n.n.n, 192.n.n.n, etc. Private networks
No it's not. It's for people who can't or don't want to get real IPs.
There are a lot of reasons why so-called private devices would want a real IP address. First and foremost is so that they can send out requests to the Internet and the receiver of requests will know where to send the response. Firewall all you want, but two-way communication is still important.
As if it's not bad enough that universities are forcing students to pay micros~1 (for software that was probably preinstalled on their PCs no less) through campus licensing.
Huh? Since when would campus licensing even know about such machines? If some techie from Computer Services came to my dorm room and demanding to see what software I was running, I would tell him to screw off.
For the most part, that was true: most people never did get close; the ones who went over tended to go 'way over, and we'd send 'em bills for a thousand dollars (no lie). But have you ever dealt with anyone handed a thousand-dollar bandwidth bill? My sympathies if you have.
This is silly. There are ISPs who are dealing with this problem just fine. I use Xmission and I am an admitted P2P user.
1. 12GB per month limit, and extra bandwidth costs $10 a pop. 2. You're warned when you're about to go over the limit and then your connection is throttled after that to prevent extreme-overusage. 3. They have easy to use tools for checking on your usage. 4. UNMETERED usage from midnight to 7:00am. It certainly encourages me to do all my downloading at that time.
Instead of treating their customers as enemies, they treat them AS CUSTOMERS. They don't send surprise $1000 bills and snicker in the background when the customer calls to complain. They NICELY inform the customer of the problem. Customers who are aware of their usage, are willing to pay extra and/or appreciate the "heads-up" about their over-usage. Customers who are not aware of their usage get the chance to find the problem.
The result of this geek-friendly ISPs efforts is that it is one the most popular ISPs in Utah. Every "computer guy" in the state tells his friends that XMission the is coolest ISP out there.
They're solving the bandwidth problem by nicely EDUCATING their customers, not berating them for their ignorance. People just don't know that internet usage is a mix between their electricity or water bill and their phone bill. Once they understand how the system works, they become much less of a problem.
The internet is new, and just like phones, it is going to take 10 or 20 years before people really understand how it works. Give them time, and stop sending $1000 bills. The customer is not the enemy.
As it was explained to me, once something goes past the event horizon, it stays there in the black hole. Now, while Hawking radiation might dissipate the black hole, if it happens to gain enough mass as it travels towards the center of the earth, that it doesn't dissipate and has a net rate of growth, then that is a bad thing.
The best argument I've seen so far in support of this experiment is the cosmic ray argument that if the collider can make these things, then they're being made all the time in the atmosphere. So far, no problems.
The black hole dissapates due to the Hawking Effect.
If they were so sure of the Hawking effect (which they're not), then why bother looking for it? Yes, extensive testing has shown it to be theoretically valid, but "you never know".
Scheme is a great language for learning computer science. Let's face it, humans naturally think better in a procedural language. But once someone is forced to understand how to do things in functional language, their understand of procedural languages is much improved. When recursion is the only way to get a lot of things done, people learn it and it never becomes the "black magic" that many beginners (or even some "experts") think it is.
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Why should they have to comprimise with anyone? They should answer to their customers, not the media companies.
Dude, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make it easy for her to get online while on the road. Call the hotel about wireless, get her dial-up networking working and show her how to use it, whatever it takes. That was never my point. My point was that she (and a lot of other people), are very confused about wireless networking technology.
I honestly think that wireless netwoking companies are intentionally marketing their products as wireless *Internet*. In other words, "Buy this card, and you can get on the Internet from anywhere!" Have you seen the Centrino ads? This is the impression they're trying to give. Users don't know, and don't really care how this works. Ask them how they think that these cards are going to tap into the Internet, and they either don't know or think that it somehow connects like their cell phone does. They may be out of range out in the middle of nowhere, but for all intents and purposes, they can get on the internet from anywhere.
And no I'm not rude when I ask this, but I have asked this of many non-techie folks and gotten this answer. The marketing has led them to believe that these things are wireless modems.
No, I explain to her that in order for her to get on the Internet with her wireless network card, she'll have to be someplace where a wireless network is available. So we call the hotel. No, they don't have wireless internet access. They don't have internet access at all.
What's frustrating is that we've gone through this several times, and she still doesn't get it. Really, I'm not joking. I've given her the exact above explaination and she still comes back to me with the same question.
And, no, I don't call her dickhead, because she isn't one. I call you dickhead, because you are a dickhead. Oh, and thanks for assuming I treat my friends/boss like shit and that I'm some sort of condesending asshole LAN nazi.
No I understand her just fine. I know exactly what she means, and she doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, I know that some hotels offer wireless internet access. I'm not stupid. Thanks for assuming that I am, dickhead.
I've found that among my technically-not-so-savvy friends, family, and coworkers, the real misunderstanding about wireless networks is that they confuse them with wireless *Internet*.
Every time my boss goes out of town, she asks me to make sure that her Airport works correctly so she can get on the Internet from her hotel. And everytime, I have to explain to her that she has a wireless network card, not a wireless Internet card.
For example some of code drops from our clients don't even compile!
I used to write software that got "dropped" down to a client and heard this all the time from them. Guess what, that code *did* compile. We'd given them instructions on how to do it (since compiling in Windows isn't always as easy as "make"), and the incompetant VB clones couldn't get past the fact that we didn't use the inane VC++ IDE tools to compile stuff.
"Why can't you just send a project file so I can compile this?", says client.
"Because this project is huge. It has ten modules, three of which are further submodularized. The build system built into VC++ just can't handle the things we need to do.", says I.
"Huh?"
Why don't they just get that maybe they should get someone who knows what they're doing?
Um. How?
Mod AC up!
Except nothing new has been added in nearly a month. There is no way for folks to upload their own torrent to react in a reasonable amount of time to the speed that the slashdot effect takes place.
Amen.
RTFT (thread)
Uum, it's called scientific progress.
I know that bonehead. The original poster claimed that this experiment was safe because of Hawking radiation. Well, if we're checking for Hawking radiation, then isn't that because that we believe that there is some small, even minscule, chance that it doesn't exist? Doesn't that make justifiying the safety of it based on what we're looking for a little wrong? It doesn't make logical sense.
Perhaps, you should try to read the meaning of my statements and the context next time.
Except I can't upload my own torrent, nor does it provide a page for newbies on how to create one. This is what made some of the big torrent sites so popular. Users didn't depend on some l33t webmaster to seed everything. All the users could contribute. That's exactly the problem with scarywater. Unless the webmaster is on top of things, beats the slashdot effect to get the file (which is needed for seeding), and does it in reasonable amount of time, it's worthless.
We need something big enough that at some point it gets mentioned in the FAQ.
How about a non-copyright-infringing make-your-own-torrent web site? I'm sure it wouldn't get the bandwidth load that the other torrent sites. Then random people on slashdot could actually just do this themselves and post a comment with a torrent link.
Ummm... why would anyone want to their welding robots to accessible over the internet.
They wouldn't, but they might want that welding robot to be able to communicate with a supplier's server. While you could do this with NAT and other such hacks, why not do it the proper way with a real IP address?
That's the reason for 10.n.n.n, 192.n.n.n, etc. Private networks
No it's not. It's for people who can't or don't want to get real IPs.
There are a lot of reasons why so-called private devices would want a real IP address. First and foremost is so that they can send out requests to the Internet and the receiver of requests will know where to send the response. Firewall all you want, but two-way communication is still important.
NAT is a hack.
How would this have run up against the DMCA?
Well, it should've. There's no reason it shouldn't. Or are you just a trolling AC?
Actually, he wasn't.
As if it's not bad enough that universities are forcing students to pay micros~1 (for software that was probably preinstalled on their PCs no less) through campus licensing.
Huh? Since when would campus licensing even know about such machines? If some techie from Computer Services came to my dorm room and demanding to see what software I was running, I would tell him to screw off.
For the most part, that was true: most people never did get close; the ones who went over tended to go 'way over, and we'd send 'em bills for a thousand dollars (no lie). But have you ever dealt with anyone handed a thousand-dollar bandwidth bill? My sympathies if you have.
This is silly. There are ISPs who are dealing with this problem just fine. I use Xmission and I am an admitted P2P user.
1. 12GB per month limit, and extra bandwidth costs $10 a pop.
2. You're warned when you're about to go over the limit and then your connection is throttled after that to prevent extreme-overusage.
3. They have easy to use tools for checking on your usage.
4. UNMETERED usage from midnight to 7:00am. It certainly encourages me to do all my downloading at that time.
Instead of treating their customers as enemies, they treat them AS CUSTOMERS. They don't send surprise $1000 bills and snicker in the background when the customer calls to complain. They NICELY inform the customer of the problem. Customers who are aware of their usage, are willing to pay extra and/or appreciate the "heads-up" about their over-usage. Customers who are not aware of their usage get the chance to find the problem.
The result of this geek-friendly ISPs efforts is that it is one the most popular ISPs in Utah. Every "computer guy" in the state tells his friends that XMission the is coolest ISP out there.
They're solving the bandwidth problem by nicely EDUCATING their customers, not berating them for their ignorance. People just don't know that internet usage is a mix between their electricity or water bill and their phone bill. Once they understand how the system works, they become much less of a problem.
The internet is new, and just like phones, it is going to take 10 or 20 years before people really understand how it works. Give them time, and stop sending $1000 bills. The customer is not the enemy.
As it was explained to me, once something goes past the event horizon, it stays there in the black hole. Now, while Hawking radiation might dissipate the black hole, if it happens to gain enough mass as it travels towards the center of the earth, that it doesn't dissipate and has a net rate of growth, then that is a bad thing.
The best argument I've seen so far in support of this experiment is the cosmic ray argument that if the collider can make these things, then they're being made all the time in the atmosphere. So far, no problems.
The black hole dissapates due to the Hawking Effect.
If they were so sure of the Hawking effect (which they're not), then why bother looking for it? Yes, extensive testing has shown it to be theoretically valid, but "you never know".
The stupid installer doesn't associate .torrent files with anything
Yes it does. I don't what your problem is, but since it's worked for millions of other users, maybe you should fix your box.
Are you trolling?
RTFA.
They're linux laptops. There is no MS tax.
Scheme is a great language for learning computer science. Let's face it, humans naturally think better in a procedural language. But once someone is forced to understand how to do things in functional language, their understand of procedural languages is much improved. When recursion is the only way to get a lot of things done, people learn it and it never becomes the "black magic" that many beginners (or even some "experts") think it is.