I remember reading a rant posted on "whatshisnames" (Rasterman, perhaps?) web site about how much he hated North Carolina, but I don't think that has anything to do with the current state of E or its inclusion in GNOME.
The simple fact of the matter is that Helix probably uses Sawfish with their distribution of GNOME because of a few things:
Sawfish integrates MUCH better with GNOME. Using E, whenever I went to change things like window behavior, backgrounds, or themes, I never knew whether to change them in the GNOME control center or the E configuration tool. One of the settings would override the other and it seemed random to me.
From my personal experience, and I suspect many others, Sawfish is just so much more stable than E.
Sawfish seems to be worked on a lot more than E does. Does anyone hear about Enlightenment anymore?
I agree with you. I have a Geforce2 GTS and I am very happy with my purchase. My primary reason for choosing this card (it was Creative's card) is the support under Linux. It was the same reason I purchased Linksys network cards (they ship you the tulip module source!) and I bought an SB Live card.
One small point you didnt mention in your message is that you can find nvidia's driver developers on irc.openprojects.net in #nvidia. They and the other people in that channel have been very helpful to everyone who's visited from newbie to expert. They even have optimized drivers you can test out if you wish. Good group of people over there.
So everyone... support hardware vendors who make a real effort to support Linux and support it well. Companies like nVidia, Creative and Linksys need to be praised for their support of linux more so than other hardware vendors who just pay lipservice to it. Quit arguing over licenses and crap and just push them for quality, supported hardware and software, open or not.
Loki's port of SC3k is *not* vapourware. Maxis just recently released an update to the Windows SC3k called Simcity 3000 Unlimited. Loki decided to hold off their release of SC3k so they can include all the enhancements in this "Unlimited" version and those of us who ordered SC3k (I am in that group...) will get the newest version.
This *will* happen though, though it will be Microsoft and UNIX (including Linux). OS/390, despite its strengths, will die. The bang for the buck just isnt there anymore. Commercial Unices have far surpassed it in that category, and Linux is catching up to them fast if it hasn't already.
For example, I work for a major futures and options exchange, and a increasing amount of our back-end stuff is running on UNIX (in our case, Solaris). All the new applications we write are UNIX-only on the backend.
The only major thing we use the mainframe for is for Clearing. The next version of our Clearing software is planned to be running on a UNIX cluster.
We use a Tandem for matching all the trades that come into the exchange. That system can be (and is planned to be) ported to UNIX!
Even though its been around longer than I have been alive, UNIX is the future.:-)
In an unrelated sidenote, I told my coworkers 2 months ago that within 2-3 years Sun would dump CDE in favor of GNOME as its desktop environment. You should have heard me shout in excitement when I saw this on/. this morning;-)
I dont think anyone's claiming 3d on linux is easy, at least not nearly as easy as setting up your card on Windoze, but it is certainly NOT "weak".
I have a P2/400 and a Creative 3d blaster annhiliator 2 (forget the exact name.. its the caard with the Geforce2 GTS) and can play q3 at 1600x1200 with everything set up to the max. Runs very smooth. No mouse problems either.
And that was with the standard 0.9-4 drivers from nvidia's website. I went to irc.openprojects.net and talked to the guys in #nvidia and got drivers optimized for the PPro (or better) and got a 5-10% bump in 3d performance. (Using the mesa "gears" demo to measure)
Miguel has addressed your problem with the helix update tool which updates your system with the latest GNOME libraries by downloading and installing them with just a couple clicks.
What does this have to do with RMS visiting Teradyne. A post this far off topic should have been modded out of existance, yet a bunch of people decided to mod it up to +5 !?!? What is that? What does that say about the slashdot moderation system?!?
While I agree that Java might be a more suitable first language (I do not know about Python), the submitter of this topic was talking about students in an AP programming class who were bored and wanted to move beyond what was on the list of topics for the class. I posted what I did because I made the assumption these advanced students would be capable of learning and understanding C/C++.
First of all, if C is not being taught in your school, it should be. Second for teaching C on a non-microsoft operating system. Have a couple systems set aside running Linux or one of the BSDs that these students can use. Allow these students to spend time contributing to open source projects of their choice to demonstrate and expand on their knowlege of C programming, and distributed development.
"Computers aren't programmable. Not anymore." An utterly pathetic statement if I ever heard one. Linux comes with many different compilers. And if it were up to me, teaching BASIC would be a criminal offense!!!! We could also save cash-starved school districts big bucks not going with the Micro$oft monopoly.
Anyway, children don't necessarily need to be programming computers at 6 years old, but when they are old enough (im not going to put a number there) they should learn a language that has structure and at least a vague real world use like C. Hell, I'd much rather see Pascal or FORTRAN used before one more child is stuck learning BASIC as their first computer language. At least those would teach concepts as basic as functions and put the child in a much better position to expand their programming skills. I unfortunately learned BASIC before anything else, and it was a pretty big leap to go to something like Pascal or C.
What are the things that cause vendors to choose one show or another. I was at the Linux Business Expo, which was part of Comdex Spring in Chicago (COMDEX for christs sake, a big show in a big city) and neither RedHat nor VA Linux were there. Mind you any other Linux vendor (and even BSD!) was there, but you'd kind of expect the market leader, and one of their strongest competitors at a show of that scale.
Its just odd to me about some vendors picking failing shows to attend and missing ones that are sure things.
I'm still wondering why Redhat and VA Linux didnt show up for COMDEX Spring (Linux Business Expo) in Chicago. There was a great turnout in the Linux area, and those two companies missing was definitely noticed.
Lesstif eventually reached Motif compatibility because Motif is a dead horse. There hasnt been any development on Motif or CDE for some time, or at least if there has, someone please let me know. There was a posting on/. not so long ago about this very topic. It linked to a ZDNET article which could be found here.
Inside my Sun Ultra 5 at work lies a PCI card that contains a 400mhz AMD processor, 128MB ram, video, sound, USB, serial and parallel ports. Voila! A PC, which shares the same network connection the Sun uses.
Plus I have sun's 21" monitor with the built-in A/B switch.
So what you describe sorta exists, for the most part. Just have to hit the a/b switch (and hit a key to switch over the mouse/kb between the sun and pc) You can even cut and paste between the Sun and "PC".
I dont know anything about anime myself, but perhaps that post was moderated up because it was a person stating his opinions without trolling or trashing other anime. I thought it was a fine post, and was the type of post CmdrTaco was looking for when he posted his query for Anime.
I'd moderate him up if I had that priveledge for this thread.
CmdrTaco did not say the "US is pissed", the person who submitted the story did. Its clear from the italics, what was quoted from the submitter and what was not.
I think the poster you are replying to had a well-thought out message which should be moderated up. You, on the other hand, resorted to badmouthing and namecalling, all the while being an AC. Tsk...
Helix Gnome comes with a nifty little update tool that queries a server on the internet to give you a list of what GNOME packages are out there more recent that what exists on your RPM-based Linux box. You can then select which package(s) you'd like to download and install. Press a button and the rest is automatic. How does this affect Microsoft's newest innovation^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpatent?
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Was it really necessary to start the Linux vs GNU/Linux flame war here? Way to abuse your +2 bonus.
The simple fact of the matter is that Helix probably uses Sawfish with their distribution of GNOME because of a few things:
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Slashdot has had a few stories about it, notably one here
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telnet igormud.org 1701
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One small point you didnt mention in your message is that you can find nvidia's driver developers on irc.openprojects.net in #nvidia. They and the other people in that channel have been very helpful to everyone who's visited from newbie to expert. They even have optimized drivers you can test out if you wish. Good group of people over there.
So everyone... support hardware vendors who make a real effort to support Linux and support it well. Companies like nVidia, Creative and Linksys need to be praised for their support of linux more so than other hardware vendors who just pay lipservice to it. Quit arguing over licenses and crap and just push them for quality, supported hardware and software, open or not.
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For example, I work for a major futures and options exchange, and a increasing amount of our back-end stuff is running on UNIX (in our case, Solaris). All the new applications we write are UNIX-only on the backend.
The only major thing we use the mainframe for is for Clearing. The next version of our Clearing software is planned to be running on a UNIX cluster.
We use a Tandem for matching all the trades that come into the exchange. That system can be (and is planned to be) ported to UNIX!
Even though its been around longer than I have been alive, UNIX is the future. :-)
In an unrelated sidenote, I told my coworkers 2 months ago that within 2-3 years Sun would dump CDE in favor of GNOME as its desktop environment. You should have heard me shout in excitement when I saw this on /. this morning ;-)
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I have a P2/400 and a Creative 3d blaster annhiliator 2 (forget the exact name.. its the caard with the Geforce2 GTS) and can play q3 at 1600x1200 with everything set up to the max. Runs very smooth. No mouse problems either.
And that was with the standard 0.9-4 drivers from nvidia's website. I went to irc.openprojects.net and talked to the guys in #nvidia and got drivers optimized for the PPro (or better) and got a 5-10% bump in 3d performance. (Using the mesa "gears" demo to measure)
siri
Miguel has addressed your problem with the helix update tool which updates your system with the latest GNOME libraries by downloading and installing them with just a couple clicks.
Get Helix GNOME!
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"Computers aren't programmable. Not anymore." An utterly pathetic statement if I ever heard one. Linux comes with many different compilers. And if it were up to me, teaching BASIC would be a criminal offense!!!! We could also save cash-starved school districts big bucks not going with the Micro$oft monopoly.
Anyway, children don't necessarily need to be programming computers at 6 years old, but when they are old enough (im not going to put a number there) they should learn a language that has structure and at least a vague real world use like C. Hell, I'd much rather see Pascal or FORTRAN used before one more child is stuck learning BASIC as their first computer language. At least those would teach concepts as basic as functions and put the child in a much better position to expand their programming skills. I unfortunately learned BASIC before anything else, and it was a pretty big leap to go to something like Pascal or C.
Its just odd to me about some vendors picking failing shows to attend and missing ones that are sure things.
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Plus I have sun's 21" monitor with the built-in A/B switch.
So what you describe sorta exists, for the most part. Just have to hit the a/b switch (and hit a key to switch over the mouse/kb between the sun and pc) You can even cut and paste between the Sun and "PC".
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[root@caffeine /root]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859-1 2020 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean)
vfat 9180 1 (autoclean)
fat 30464 1 (autoclean) [vfat]
joy-sidewinder 4308 0
joystick 7076 0 [joy-sidewinder]
emu10k1-joy 2808 0 (unused)
emu10k1 45956 0
soundcore 2372 4 [emu10k1]
NVdriver 431584 7 (autoclean)
nfsd 144060 8 (autoclean)
lockd 30984 0 (autoclean) [nfsd]
sunrpc 52516 0 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
tulip 25252 1 (autoclean)
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I'd moderate him up if I had that priveledge for this thread.
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Moderators, how did that post get +2?
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Helix Gnome comes with a nifty little update tool that queries a server on the internet to give you a list of what GNOME packages are out there more recent that what exists on your RPM-based Linux box. You can then select which package(s) you'd like to download and install. Press a button and the rest is automatic. How does this affect Microsoft's newest innovation^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpatent?