That certainly wasn't the point of my post. I'll admit, many pre-release apps are buggy, but hey, they're pre-release. And this does include many apps being developed for Gnome, etc. But as for other major pre-release software (such as Enlightenment)... I find E far more stable than Windows. And Gnome itself is pretty stable as well. Add to that the fact that this is free software (free as in both freedom, AND beer), and I think you have a great combination. I guess it all depends on the software you try, and the developers themselves. You have to expect that pre-releases will be buggy - and if they aren't (as in many cases), then more power to those developers.
For some reason the "Reply to This" links aren't showing up for me, so this will have to do. There is a particular AC who posted, complaining loudly about Gnome, XFree86, Enlightenment, and OSS stuff in general. I am so tired of hearing how buggy/bloated/etc. these particular applications are. I run Gnome, Enlightenment, and many other OSS apps, and I find them to be very stable... Especially considering that some of these things (Enlightenment, for example) are still pre-1.0 versions!!! Personally, I think Raster and Mandrake are doing a fantastic job. So, Enlightenment segfaults every now and then. Does it take anything down with it? Nope. So the Gnome help browser crashes every now and then. Personally, I find OctoberGnome to be pretty stable.
Folks, I come from a Windows background, and 5.0 versions of many proprietary software products crash and burn more often then prerelease stuff from OSS coders! Being a commercial product does not make something better or more stable. Heck, the mighty Windows 2000(TM) RC2 crashed spectacularly on me the other day! Took everything down with it, too, just because the Windows Explorer crashed. So in conclusion, stop complaining about OSS stuff, Enlightenment, etc. If you love commercial stuff so much, please stop running an OSS operating system, and switch to something more "stable" and "reliable" like Windows. I'm sure when you contact Microsoft requesting a bug fix, they'll be very responsive, too! *Snicker*
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I started off on mutt, but went to pine because I couldn't find a way to use multiple POP3 accounts. Is this possible, and if so, how do you do it? I liked mutt, but I have 5 POP accounts which I check daily. Any info is appreciated.
It's great to see lots of good things happening for the PalmOS... First the Handspring devices, then deals w/ Nokia, etc., and now this. It's refreshing to see one area in which Microsoft was not able to dominate the market with an inferior product (Windows CE). Go PalmOS!
Couldn't agree with you more. I finally broke down and bought a Liux system (just got it yesterday) and set the old Windows system in the kitchen, for my wife to use. Why am I switching? Well, a couple of reasons... I am learning Perl, etc. and wanted access to the tools and languages available on Linux. I like using the console in Win2000, but it is sorely lacking...
The other reason is that I mostly got bored. When you stop learning about your OS (or when most of its guts are hidden from view), things get boring. As more and more things become "point and click", I start to lose interest. I want to spend time poking around in manuals, learning new things, becoming more intimate with the OS. Linux will let me do that. Windows won't, and at that point it's boring.
Anyway, all I can say is "right on"; you said what I've been thinking lately.
Well, I happen to develop for Windows, and have used Windows for quite some time (3.x till Win2000 RC2, which I am running at work). I am no Microsoft fan. I don't like the very proprietary nature of the solutions they provide. I do hope that people reading their "myths" take them with a grain of salt. They raise a few points, but nothing that we don't already know.
Sure Unix is more complex, but doesn't that mean it is (potentially) more powerful and configurable? *nix admins know their sh*t, period. Not to say that many MCse's aren't smart, but they simply don't have to know very much to keep their OS running. All they need to know is how to reboot (OK, that was a cheap shot, but I've done my share of it, so I'm entitled).
And let's talk about web servers... I worked for a web development group, and IIS would just die for unknown reasons and require a restart. Not good for "mission-critical" apps, I wouldn't think...
Microsoft jabs at Linux for "promising" things such as SMP, etc. Hasn't Microsoft been promising Win2000 for quite awhile now? The cool thing about Linux is how rapidly the development moves. You would think Microsoft, with billions of dollars and tons of bright engineers, could beat a bunch of hackers strung together by the Internet, many in their "spare time". You've got to admire that.
Yes, Linux has some progress to make as a desktop system, but it is stable, unlike Win9x, which crashes on me constantly. And, it is infinitely customizable, for those who are willing to take some time to learn. Is it right for John Q. Public right now? Maybe not, but perhaps someday. Is it more complicated to run than Windows? Yes, but again, remember the trade-offs.
Well, I could go on, but it's nothing that 99% of you don't already know. Just thought I would toss in my $0.02 as a corporate Windows developer/user. BTW, I just ordered my new desktop... w/ Linux pre-installed).
Let's be honest about Linux's weaknesses, and fix them. But in the same vein, let's not put up with any FUD... As some other/. readers have noted, we must intelligently REFUTE the FUD, not rave about it madly. That doesn't help our reputation any.
What you are saying is indeed interesting, but does top level design always lead to better code? I think sometimes it leads to the opposite, because those who do the design are oftne not those who implement it. It must then be interpreted by the coders, and it often contains errors b/c the designers don't understand the technical issues at work. They just want "features". Sometime I think the results would be far better if the programmers did a bigger chunk of the analysis, too. But hey, that's just my $0.02 (although yes, I do program for a living).
Hmm... I have used many a Windows app, and it seems to me that the app that crashes the most is...surprise! Internet Explorer (4.x, 5.x, whatever). And, since IE is such an integral part of the OS (as we all know from the antitrust trial, MS said there's no way they can be separated) it naturally takes out my tray apps, etc. My point is that MS itself makes many of the so-called "3rd party" apps, and is blurring the lines every day (is a browser 3rd party anymore, since it is part of the OS?). In fact, it dominates in the areas of:
Office suites
Browsers
development tools
Yes, there are other apps that have problems (Netscape for one?), but all my "3rd party" app problems point directly back at Microsoft.
That is really funny. I used to subscribe to the Berst Alert way back, but I was quickly turned off by his arrogance. The newsletters would start off with something like, "Last weekend, while I was giving the keynote address at such-and-such expo..." Not to mention that the newsletters were devoid of any real content. I quickly unsubscribed, and never went bact to ZDNet again...
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
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(Damn, I was so close to getting the first post.) What the hell is this country coming to? This smacks of censorship. What happened to free speech? I don't give a rat's ass about drug paraphenalia, but I support the right to discuss it on the web if you really want to. Whay are we afraid of knowledge? Are our leaders so moronic that they really think this would make a difference in the already-lost "war on drugs"? Once again, this is an example of Congress doing something for the sake of doing something, not because it would be effective. Idiots. I become more disgusted with this country every day... and yes it is better than most, but I fear the path that we are taking leads to someplace decidedly repressive... So the question is, what do we do about it? I suggest we start by letting our leaders know how moronic these ideas are.
That is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time... though it's not intended to be. Read some of the other reviews, as they are even more hilarious...
I believe that developers should be compensated for their time and energy. However, I must admit that I've got a few pieces of software of "dubious" legality. I think there are many factors that make piracy seem attractive. For instance, while in college and poor, I viewed a copied CD as perhaps my only chance to have a certain piece of software. Is this right? No. Now that I am in the work force, I can be honest and register my shareware, buy the CDs, etc. The ease with which software can be copied, and the "I gotta have it NOW" mentality have also contributed to piracy. I think that yet another reason is that some software is a real rip-off (such as paying for a Windows "Second Edition" that is really a service pack), or priced exhorbitantly. I do take offense to some of the sanctimonious bastards who have taken this as an opportunity to preach to all of us "sinners". I find it hard to believe that NO ONE here has ever made a copy of a friend's cassette tape, or maybe a movie rental, or "borrowed" some choice material for a research paper, etc... My point is, "he who is without sin should cast the first stone". In other words, be honest please!!! It is a morally "grey" area, and easy to circumvent if desired. Anyway, just my ramblings... feel free to disregard them.
Personally, I am not impressed with the "Swirl". Many of the others, as well as CT's, seem much nicer to me. Not that anyone cares though. On an offtopic note, I am interested in switching to Debian... from what I hear, it is techncally superior. If there are any Debian users out there who would like to convert me, feel free to email me...don't post please, since it's off topic.
Just for the record... PartitionMagic does not give you both the option to partition AND to delete a partition at the same time. When PM crashed, it thought that the process was complete. So when I booted up Windows again, I DID NOT have the option to re-do the partition. My only option was to delete the partition. I tried that, and since the process was never really completed, it said I had no Linux partition to delete. So I was in a catch-22. My point was that if I hadn't been familiar with fdisk and paritions, I would have been stuck at this point.
You're right, I might very well have been complaining if I had not been able to handle a more difficult install process, but that is not relevant. I realize that user-friendliness and user-control both have their ups and downs... I only wanted to give my impression as a new user.
I am new to Linux but very experienced with Windoze (which I quickly discovered means nothing). I am a programmer, but all of my prior programming experience is for Windoze. While my experience hasn't been that helpful in the Linux setting, at least I am familiar with computers, scripts, etc. in general and can apply this to Linux. If I didn't have this experience, I would REALLY be screwed. Anyway, I bought OL 2.2 because I was afraid that being a Linux newbie, I would have difficulty getting anything else to run without a great deal of pain. My idea was that I would get OL installed and use it to learn the basics of Linux, and then move on to another distro. Well, I've had it installed for a week, and I am wishing that perhaps I had chosen something like RH 6.
For starters, Partition Magic crashed halfway through, so when I tried to use LIZARD to install, it said I had no prepared Linux partition. Luckily I am familiar with fdisk and I fixed the problem. Other than that, the installation went without a hitch, except the fact that I put in an incorrect parameter for my video card and had to run XF86Setup to fix it.
After some difficulty, I also got PPP set up, with no thanks to Caldera support. It's obvious that I just need to go through the HOWTO's'; they're much more informative, though they can be technical for a newbie.
My biggest complaint is that while the "totally graphical" interface is nice for a newbie, if everything doesn't automatically configure during installation (like my modem, printer, and sound card), you really need to dispense with the graphical stuff and get into the guts of the system. I wish I got to see my boot messages on boot instead of using dmesg afterwards. I have asked Caldera 3 times as to what some of the items in their graphical boot sequence represent, but have not yet gotten a response.
So, that's a newbies impression of OL 2.2. I will probably use a different distro next time, because I feel I will have more control over the install process and the system configuration. Plus, many of the references I have purchased use RH as an example, and some of the info is distro-specific. I also chose OL for the price, but now I wonder if I got what I paid for.
"Real men use text editors." Many are quick to bost that they do not use "visual" tools, etc. They are "hard-core" programmers (or at least they want you to think so). I have used everything from Notepad to Dreamweaver and Front Page, so I can share a little knowledge on the subject, and it goes something like this: Use the right tool for the job. Text editors shine when it comes to coding, esp. when you are doing scripting, etc. in your web page. They are good for doing basic design and even complex design (if you are good at HTML and are familiar with the time-saving features of your editor). HOWEVER, even the pros need to admit that a WYSIWYG editor can speed up making very design-centric web pages, esp. for someone who is not an HTML pro. The only thing to watch out for is editors like Front Page that add proprietary tags and info to your code. Stay away from that, as it's difficult to edit them when this happens. Dreamweaver produces clean code, so I like it. Lately I've become attached to HomeSite; it is smart enough to help speed up repetitive tasks, but lets you code your heart out and highlights syntax, etc. I use Dreamweaver when I want to do something without having to put a lot of time into it, or when I am focusing on design. Dreamweaver ships with a copy of HomeSite, so I think that is a great package. You can switch between the two, as necessary. If you are a real pro then maybe vi or Emacs is all you need, who knows. But I don't think that applies to most of us...(especially the ones who boast the loudest). Just some thoughts from someone who's been there...
It is ridiculous that Real comes out with such an un-sensational product and receives all this hype. There are so many great FREE products out there that will do the same thing... Every article I've read treats Real as if they have come up with this fabulous new idea. It's a shame that other developers with better products don't get this kind of press. Unfortunately, their support of MP3 is not notable because they are not "major players" in the MP3 battle. Wake up, people - the major story here is that so many people have embraced MP3, and that there is already a large assortment of software devoted to dealing with this format. MP3 is here to stay; I don't care what anyone says. If RIAA and the rest are so concerned about piracy, they should be working hard to ban CD burners, VCRS, tape decks, minidisc recorders, etc... I don;t know what it is about MP3 that is so evil... The potential for Internet distribution, I guess. As people get access to higher bandwidth, you can bet they'll be clamoring to add copyright protection to existing standards for video. A CNET article mentions that Real is considering adding a trace to the song, to show who "ripped" it, but "that involves privacy issues." But in this day and age where we are giving away our freedom and privacy, I'm sure those issues will be overcome.
Wow, two really great arguments... One in this post, and one in the reply below it. "If you're not guilty, then you have nothing to fear..." Hate to break this to you, big guy, but innocent people DO get falsely accused of things, and (I know this is difficult to believe)... SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL ARE NOT VERY SCRUPULOUS!!! They plant things, lie, falsify evidence... These are not the ravings of a militia-joining, separatist freak but a normal person who is genuinely scared of the power that the government has. And while we may be inevitably headed in this direction, I don't have to go quietly... Whenever I hear such an asinine argument I am compelled to respond. "But the police are our friends..." B.S.!!! As for the other argument, "America, it's a democracy, so love it or leave it"; this is equally ridiculous. This society was founded with the goal of keeping the inevitable tyranny of government in check. Unfortunately we are convinced to give up our liberties one by one "in the interests of (choose one: the greater good, national security, public safety, etc.) Don't buy it!!!
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That certainly wasn't the point of my post. I'll admit, many pre-release apps are buggy, but hey, they're pre-release. And this does include many apps being developed for Gnome, etc. But as for other major pre-release software (such as Enlightenment)... I find E far more stable than Windows. And Gnome itself is pretty stable as well. Add to that the fact that this is free software (free as in both freedom, AND beer), and I think you have a great combination. I guess it all depends on the software you try, and the developers themselves. You have to expect that pre-releases will be buggy - and if they aren't (as in many cases), then more power to those developers.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
Folks, I come from a Windows background, and 5.0 versions of many proprietary software products crash and burn more often then prerelease stuff from OSS coders! Being a commercial product does not make something better or more stable. Heck, the mighty Windows 2000(TM) RC2 crashed spectacularly on me the other day! Took everything down with it, too, just because the Windows Explorer crashed. So in conclusion, stop complaining about OSS stuff, Enlightenment, etc. If you love commercial stuff so much, please stop running an OSS operating system, and switch to something more "stable" and "reliable" like Windows. I'm sure when you contact Microsoft requesting a bug fix, they'll be very responsive, too! *Snicker*
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
I started off on mutt, but went to pine because I couldn't find a way to use multiple POP3 accounts. Is this possible, and if so, how do you do it? I liked mutt, but I have 5 POP accounts which I check daily. Any info is appreciated.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
It's great to see lots of good things happening for the PalmOS... First the Handspring devices, then deals w/ Nokia, etc., and now this. It's refreshing to see one area in which Microsoft was not able to dominate the market with an inferior product (Windows CE). Go PalmOS!
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
The other reason is that I mostly got bored. When you stop learning about your OS (or when most of its guts are hidden from view), things get boring. As more and more things become "point and click", I start to lose interest. I want to spend time poking around in manuals, learning new things, becoming more intimate with the OS. Linux will let me do that. Windows won't, and at that point it's boring.
Anyway, all I can say is "right on"; you said what I've been thinking lately.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
Sure Unix is more complex, but doesn't that mean it is (potentially) more powerful and configurable? *nix admins know their sh*t, period. Not to say that many MCse's aren't smart, but they simply don't have to know very much to keep their OS running. All they need to know is how to reboot (OK, that was a cheap shot, but I've done my share of it, so I'm entitled).
And let's talk about web servers... I worked for a web development group, and IIS would just die for unknown reasons and require a restart. Not good for "mission-critical" apps, I wouldn't think...
Microsoft jabs at Linux for "promising" things such as SMP, etc. Hasn't Microsoft been promising Win2000 for quite awhile now? The cool thing about Linux is how rapidly the development moves. You would think Microsoft, with billions of dollars and tons of bright engineers, could beat a bunch of hackers strung together by the Internet, many in their "spare time". You've got to admire that.
Yes, Linux has some progress to make as a desktop system, but it is stable, unlike Win9x, which crashes on me constantly. And, it is infinitely customizable, for those who are willing to take some time to learn. Is it right for John Q. Public right now? Maybe not, but perhaps someday. Is it more complicated to run than Windows? Yes, but again, remember the trade-offs.
Well, I could go on, but it's nothing that 99% of you don't already know. Just thought I would toss in my $0.02 as a corporate Windows developer/user. BTW, I just ordered my new desktop... w/ Linux pre-installed).
Let's be honest about Linux's weaknesses, and fix them. But in the same vein, let's not put up with any FUD... As some other /. readers have noted, we must intelligently REFUTE the FUD, not rave about it madly. That doesn't help our reputation any.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
What you are saying is indeed interesting, but does top level design always lead to better code? I think sometimes it leads to the opposite, because those who do the design are oftne not those who implement it. It must then be interpreted by the coders, and it often contains errors b/c the designers don't understand the technical issues at work. They just want "features". Sometime I think the results would be far better if the programmers did a bigger chunk of the analysis, too. But hey, that's just my $0.02 (although yes, I do program for a living).
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
Yes, there are other apps that have problems (Netscape for one?), but all my "3rd party" app problems point directly back at Microsoft.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
It's been my experience that people who refer to themselves as a "guru" usually aren't...
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
That is really funny. I used to subscribe to the Berst Alert way back, but I was quickly turned off by his arrogance. The newsletters would start off with something like, "Last weekend, while I was giving the keynote address at such-and-such expo..." Not to mention that the newsletters were devoid of any real content. I quickly unsubscribed, and never went bact to ZDNet again...
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
(Damn, I was so close to getting the first post.) What the hell is this country coming to? This smacks of censorship. What happened to free speech? I don't give a rat's ass about drug paraphenalia, but I support the right to discuss it on the web if you really want to. Whay are we afraid of knowledge? Are our leaders so moronic that they really think this would make a difference in the already-lost "war on drugs"? Once again, this is an example of Congress doing something for the sake of doing something, not because it would be effective. Idiots. I become more disgusted with this country every day... and yes it is better than most, but I fear the path that we are taking leads to someplace decidedly repressive... So the question is, what do we do about it? I suggest we start by letting our leaders know how moronic these ideas are.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
That is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time... though it's not intended to be. Read some of the other reviews, as they are even more hilarious...
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
I believe that developers should be compensated for their time and energy. However, I must admit that I've got a few pieces of software of "dubious" legality. I think there are many factors that make piracy seem attractive. For instance, while in college and poor, I viewed a copied CD as perhaps my only chance to have a certain piece of software. Is this right? No. Now that I am in the work force, I can be honest and register my shareware, buy the CDs, etc. The ease with which software can be copied, and the "I gotta have it NOW" mentality have also contributed to piracy. I think that yet another reason is that some software is a real rip-off (such as paying for a Windows "Second Edition" that is really a service pack), or priced exhorbitantly. I do take offense to some of the sanctimonious bastards who have taken this as an opportunity to preach to all of us "sinners". I find it hard to believe that NO ONE here has ever made a copy of a friend's cassette tape, or maybe a movie rental, or "borrowed" some choice material for a research paper, etc... My point is, "he who is without sin should cast the first stone". In other words, be honest please!!! It is a morally "grey" area, and easy to circumvent if desired. Anyway, just my ramblings... feel free to disregard them.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
Personally, I am not impressed with the "Swirl". Many of the others, as well as CT's, seem much nicer to me. Not that anyone cares though. On an offtopic note, I am interested in switching to Debian... from what I hear, it is techncally superior. If there are any Debian users out there who would like to convert me, feel free to email me...don't post please, since it's off topic.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
Just for the record... PartitionMagic does not give you both the option to partition AND to delete a partition at the same time. When PM crashed, it thought that the process was complete. So when I booted up Windows again, I DID NOT have the option to re-do the partition. My only option was to delete the partition. I tried that, and since the process was never really completed, it said I had no Linux partition to delete. So I was in a catch-22. My point was that if I hadn't been familiar with fdisk and paritions, I would have been stuck at this point.
You're right, I might very well have been complaining if I had not been able to handle a more difficult install process, but that is not relevant. I realize that user-friendliness and user-control both have their ups and downs... I only wanted to give my impression as a new user.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
I am new to Linux but very experienced with Windoze (which I quickly discovered means nothing). I am a programmer, but all of my prior programming experience is for Windoze. While my experience hasn't been that helpful in the Linux setting, at least I am familiar with computers, scripts, etc. in general and can apply this to Linux. If I didn't have this experience, I would REALLY be screwed. Anyway, I bought OL 2.2 because I was afraid that being a Linux newbie, I would have difficulty getting anything else to run without a great deal of pain. My idea was that I would get OL installed and use it to learn the basics of Linux, and then move on to another distro. Well, I've had it installed for a week, and I am wishing that perhaps I had chosen something like RH 6.
For starters, Partition Magic crashed halfway through, so when I tried to use LIZARD to install, it said I had no prepared Linux partition. Luckily I am familiar with fdisk and I fixed the problem. Other than that, the installation went without a hitch, except the fact that I put in an incorrect parameter for my video card and had to run XF86Setup to fix it.
After some difficulty, I also got PPP set up, with no thanks to Caldera support. It's obvious that I just need to go through the HOWTO's'; they're much more informative, though they can be technical for a newbie.
My biggest complaint is that while the "totally graphical" interface is nice for a newbie, if everything doesn't automatically configure during installation (like my modem, printer, and sound card), you really need to dispense with the graphical stuff and get into the guts of the system. I wish I got to see my boot messages on boot instead of using dmesg afterwards. I have asked Caldera 3 times as to what some of the items in their graphical boot sequence represent, but have not yet gotten a response.
So, that's a newbies impression of OL 2.2. I will probably use a different distro next time, because I feel I will have more control over the install process and the system configuration. Plus, many of the references I have purchased use RH as an example, and some of the info is distro-specific. I also chose OL for the price, but now I wonder if I got what I paid for.
--"A man's Palm is his best friend."
"Real men use text editors." Many are quick to bost that they do not use "visual" tools, etc. They are "hard-core" programmers (or at least they want you to think so). I have used everything from Notepad to Dreamweaver and Front Page, so I can share a little knowledge on the subject, and it goes something like this: Use the right tool for the job. Text editors shine when it comes to coding, esp. when you are doing scripting, etc. in your web page. They are good for doing basic design and even complex design (if you are good at HTML and are familiar with the time-saving features of your editor). HOWEVER, even the pros need to admit that a WYSIWYG editor can speed up making very design-centric web pages, esp. for someone who is not an HTML pro. The only thing to watch out for is editors like Front Page that add proprietary tags and info to your code. Stay away from that, as it's difficult to edit them when this happens. Dreamweaver produces clean code, so I like it. Lately I've become attached to HomeSite; it is smart enough to help speed up repetitive tasks, but lets you code your heart out and highlights syntax, etc. I use Dreamweaver when I want to do something without having to put a lot of time into it, or when I am focusing on design. Dreamweaver ships with a copy of HomeSite, so I think that is a great package. You can switch between the two, as necessary. If you are a real pro then maybe vi or Emacs is all you need, who knows. But I don't think that applies to most of us...(especially the ones who boast the loudest). Just some thoughts from someone who's been there...
It is ridiculous that Real comes out with such an un-sensational product and receives all this hype. There are so many great FREE products out there that will do the same thing... Every article I've read treats Real as if they have come up with this fabulous new idea. It's a shame that other developers with better products don't get this kind of press. Unfortunately, their support of MP3 is not notable because they are not "major players" in the MP3 battle. Wake up, people - the major story here is that so many people have embraced MP3, and that there is already a large assortment of software devoted to dealing with this format. MP3 is here to stay; I don't care what anyone says. If RIAA and the rest are so concerned about piracy, they should be working hard to ban CD burners, VCRS, tape decks, minidisc recorders, etc... I don;t know what it is about MP3 that is so evil... The potential for Internet distribution, I guess. As people get access to higher bandwidth, you can bet they'll be clamoring to add copyright protection to existing standards for video. A CNET article mentions that Real is considering adding a trace to the song, to show who "ripped" it, but "that involves privacy issues." But in this day and age where we are giving away our freedom and privacy, I'm sure those issues will be overcome.
Wow, two really great arguments... One in this post, and one in the reply below it. "If you're not guilty, then you have nothing to fear..." Hate to break this to you, big guy, but innocent people DO get falsely accused of things, and (I know this is difficult to believe)... SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL ARE NOT VERY SCRUPULOUS!!! They plant things, lie, falsify evidence... These are not the ravings of a militia-joining, separatist freak but a normal person who is genuinely scared of the power that the government has. And while we may be inevitably headed in this direction, I don't have to go quietly... Whenever I hear such an asinine argument I am compelled to respond. "But the police are our friends..." B.S.!!! As for the other argument, "America, it's a democracy, so love it or leave it"; this is equally ridiculous. This society was founded with the goal of keeping the inevitable tyranny of government in check. Unfortunately we are convinced to give up our liberties one by one "in the interests of (choose one: the greater good, national security, public safety, etc.) Don't buy it!!!