I actually use Debian for *everything* personally, but in some cases using Red Hat may be more efficient - just try getting Oracle to support running their database software on Debian...
There is a significant difference between the correct stability/reliability tradeoff for a desktop/hobbyist operating system and a production server operating system.
This difference is especially apparent with Linux distributions. A distribution intended for desktop use will, by nessisity, include unstable software and libraries so as to allow constantly-unstable software like media players to work. On the other hand, a server distribution will run tested, stable versions of everything.
If Red Hat is actually claiming 5 year product lifetimes for their server products then it's probably worth getting them. That will allow you to not do a reinstall until your application needs a OS upgrade - instead of needing to reinstall because Red Hat no longer supports the old version.
nat@hydra:~/games/magic$ perl my Cat $felix; $felix = "a"; print "$felix\n"; ^D No such class Cat at - line 1, near "my Cat" Execution of - aborted due to compilation errors.
You're right. They don't do 8 hour non-stop flights, but they love nothing better than to route you through phoenix on your IL to RI flight, turning what should be a 4 hour straight flight into a 9 hour two hop.
The AR-15 isn't to protect against the helicopters, it's to protect against the MiB's. For the helicopters, you need a 50 caliber machine gun with APIN rounds.
Good science fiction is a vehicle for the author to display his beliefs about human nature by setting his story in a world that is optimal for the social point he or she is trying to make.
Take Star Trek: TNG for a moment - not nessisarily the best SciFi out there, but it does qualify as SciFi (mostly). A science fiction setting allows it to talk about things like the Borg and people's reaction to the possibility of being "Assimilated" into a cyborg hive mind.
A good science fiction universe doesn't nessisarily have anything to do with good science fiction. One of my favorite science fiction universes is BattleTech, and it's just an excuse to talk about 30 foot tall humanoid tanks - (now with chain saws).
In the intersection of "Good Science Fiction" and "Science Fiction Universe" there's a good number of examples.
Asimov's Foundation/Robots universe managed to be both, mostly through Asimov being an amazing writer and thinker.
Heinlein's future history stories always were a favorite of mine but they don't form that much of a Universe - they more manage to talk about human nature: Religion, Immortality, etc.
I fail to see what's idiotic about downloading uncompressed audio. A single song is what, 30 meg? On any decent speed DSL line, that will take about 5 minutes, 20 seconds - a perfectly reasonable time to wait for an Actually-CD-Quality audio track.
First two years: You have copyright on your work. Years 3 - 4: $10 renewal fee - must be payed by December 15, year 2.
Years 5 - 6: $20 Years 7 - 8: $40... Years 49 - 50: $83,886,080
Don't bother setting any specific limit, and allow for arbitrary payment in advance, but be really strict about loosing the right based on missing the renewal date.
That seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it. The fee for 14 years of copyright ends up being $1,270.
Also, I'm completely happy not being able to *copy and distribute commerically*, say, Disney's Aladin, for my entire life in exchange for a tax break (me personally) of about one hundred million billion dollars (no, really "hundred million billion").
[a id=aw2 href=/url?q=http://www.scientology.org&sa=l&ai=AXT CG4Kwt9stkyEphhMMkBYI9DJI-LV78bWgACApTAAv5XEACCA&n um=2 onMouseOver="return ss('go to www.scientology.org')" onMouseOut="cs()"]
The relevent link code is shown above.
If you wrote a perl script to parse for "go to www.scientology.org" as the parameter to ss() in onMouseOver, you could set the script up to use LWP to fetch the google search page for Scientology every 10 minutes and call every paid link to scientology.org on the page..
First, there is more to a distribution than the install procedure. Both of these reviews review "Installation and first 10 minutes" which, while being a small part of the user experiance of a Linux distribution, isn't anywhere near the whole story.
In trying to review Debian the same way they review other distributions (which perhaps *only* improve their install system between releases, so as to get better reviews), both of these critics have done Debian a great disservice.
I've been running Linux for about 4 years now, and I've used the install systems for most of the major Linux distributions (Red Hat, Mandrake, Slackware, SuSE, etc). Over this past weekend, I installed Debian on 5 computers. I can absolutly assure you that I would be completely stalled at 3/5 with any other distribution's install system. It's awfully hard to install from CDROM when a machine has no CD drive.
Now, for a newbie I can see that some of the options in the install might be intimidating, but it's all pretty easy if you actually printed out the install document like the website told you to...
Any reviewer of debian that doesn't even manage to notice the fact that Debian can automatically fetch from the internet and install over 8710 different software packages and have virtually any valid combination of them work together perfectly is perhaps not actually interested in reviewing Debian.
I installed Debian off of 6 floppy disks earlier today. Three of the disks were old AOL disks. Two of them were Windows driver disks that came with old hardware. One of them was a floppy disk that I had bought back when I was in high school.
(Boot disk, root disk, driver disks 1 through 4 - the rest of the distro is downloaded automatically)
The underlying NT "core os" has had about the same number of major security problems as the Linux kernel... none.
Where you get security holes is in applications. For example, IIS has had more major security holes than Apache. Apache is based on NCSA httpd, which wasn't developed for Linux - it was developed for Unix.
For a better example, look at Sendmail vs. Exchange. Sendmail was, for the longest time, one of the least secure pieces of software out there. By the time Microsoft released Exchange, Sendmail had matured enough that even though every other Unix hole was still attributable to Sendmail, it managed to be more secure than the newly-released Exchange.
My real point is that Linux and Unix share an application base. Most of the major programs that are used on UNIX will run on Linux just by recompiling.
I bet you couldn't find a single major program that will run on both VMS and NT but not Unix a/o Linux.
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I actually use Debian for *everything* personally, but in some cases using Red Hat may be more efficient - just try getting Oracle to support running their database software on Debian...
There is a significant difference between the correct stability/reliability tradeoff for a desktop/hobbyist operating system and a production server operating system.
This difference is especially apparent with Linux distributions. A distribution intended for desktop use will, by nessisity, include unstable software and libraries so as to allow constantly-unstable software like media players to work. On the other hand, a server distribution will run tested, stable versions of everything.
If Red Hat is actually claiming 5 year product lifetimes for their server products then it's probably worth getting them. That will allow you to not do a reinstall until your application needs a OS upgrade - instead of needing to reinstall because Red Hat no longer supports the old version.
Should you pay the massachussetts meal tax on meals you digest, when you digest the food in new hampshire?
If you don't want to pay the tax, buy the goods in the state where it's not taxed.
Apparently you can. Weird
Neat... Now you have X at 640x480x8 and no apps.
You're right. They don't do 8 hour non-stop flights, but they love nothing better than to route you through phoenix on your IL to RI flight, turning what should be a 4 hour straight flight into a 9 hour two hop.
Airlines still serve meals on 8+ hour flights (unless it's Southwest Airlines), especially in the case of non-US airlines.
The AR-15 isn't to protect against the helicopters, it's to protect against the MiB's. For the helicopters, you need a 50 caliber machine gun with APIN rounds.
Good science fiction is a vehicle for the author to display his beliefs about human nature by setting his story in a world that is optimal for the social point he or she is trying to make.
Take Star Trek: TNG for a moment - not nessisarily the best SciFi out there, but it does qualify as SciFi (mostly). A science fiction setting allows it to talk about things like the Borg and people's reaction to the possibility of being "Assimilated" into a cyborg hive mind.
A good science fiction universe doesn't nessisarily have anything to do with good science fiction. One of my favorite science fiction universes is BattleTech, and it's just an excuse to talk about 30 foot tall humanoid tanks - (now with chain saws).
In the intersection of "Good Science Fiction" and "Science Fiction Universe" there's a good number of examples.
Asimov's Foundation/Robots universe managed to be both, mostly through Asimov being an amazing writer and thinker.
Heinlein's future history stories always were a favorite of mine but they don't form that much of a Universe - they more manage to talk about human nature: Religion, Immortality, etc.
I fail to see what's idiotic about downloading uncompressed audio. A single song is what, 30 meg?
On any decent speed DSL line, that will take about 5 minutes, 20 seconds - a perfectly reasonable time to wait for an Actually-CD-Quality audio track.
Tell me something. The atmospheric pressure at sea level is 15 psi using imperial measurements. Using metric, how would you specify that figure?
First two years: You have copyright on your work.
...
Years 3 - 4: $10 renewal fee - must be payed by December 15, year 2.
Years 5 - 6: $20
Years 7 - 8: $40
Years 49 - 50: $83,886,080
Don't bother setting any specific limit, and allow for arbitrary payment in advance, but be really strict about loosing the right based on missing the renewal date.
That seems pretty reasonable, doesn't it. The fee for 14 years of copyright ends up being $1,270.
Also, I'm completely happy not being able to *copy and distribute commerically*, say, Disney's Aladin, for my entire life in exchange for a tax break (me personally) of about one hundred million billion dollars (no, really "hundred million billion").
Heh.
If I was working where you admin, I'd take that as a challenge.
Who's this looser Satan? I worship Vecna!
What he should have said was:
New Indie CD on sale, one side of the CD happens to be blue.
Then, if ebay is pulling auctions with the text "CDR", they won't pull his.
Black may have the only forcable win on the tree as well.
What is being compared is *laws*. In the countries that scored better, there aren't as many laws that cause problems for journalists.
[a id=aw2 href=/url?q=http://www.scientology.org&sa=l&ai=AXT CG4Kwt9stkyEphhMMkBYI9DJI-LV78bWgACApTAAv5XEACCA&n um=2 onMouseOver="return ss('go to www.scientology.org')" onMouseOut="cs()"]
The relevent link code is shown above.
If you wrote a perl script to parse for "go to www.scientology.org" as the parameter to ss() in onMouseOver, you could set the script up to use LWP to fetch the google search page for Scientology every 10 minutes and call every paid link to scientology.org on the page..
I think that adwords are per-click.
Alright. Normally, I try to be civil, logical, and reasonable, but...
Were you born retarded? Was it the lead paint? Did you decide that shots of murcury would be more "Hardcore" than Whiskey?
I'm afraid that none of these things is anywhere near the problem that is government censorship. See my sig:
First, there is more to a distribution than the install procedure. Both of these reviews review "Installation and first 10 minutes" which, while being a small part of the user experiance of a Linux distribution, isn't anywhere near the whole story.
In trying to review Debian the same way they review other distributions (which perhaps *only* improve their install system between releases, so as to get better reviews), both of these critics have done Debian a great disservice.
I've been running Linux for about 4 years now, and I've used the install systems for most of the major Linux distributions (Red Hat, Mandrake, Slackware, SuSE, etc). Over this past weekend, I installed Debian on 5 computers. I can absolutly assure you that I would be completely stalled at 3/5 with any other distribution's install system. It's awfully hard to install from CDROM when a machine has no CD drive.
Now, for a newbie I can see that some of the options in the install might be intimidating, but it's all pretty easy if you actually printed out the install document like the website told you to...
Any reviewer of debian that doesn't even manage to notice the fact that Debian can automatically fetch from the internet and install over 8710 different software packages and have virtually any valid combination of them work together perfectly is perhaps not actually interested in reviewing Debian.
Black has the first win on the tree...
I installed Debian off of 6 floppy disks earlier today. Three of the disks were old AOL disks. Two of them were Windows driver disks that came with old hardware. One of them was a floppy disk that I had bought back when I was in high school.
(Boot disk, root disk, driver disks 1 through 4 - the rest of the distro is downloaded automatically)
If Microsoft can beat that...
The underlying NT "core os" has had about the same number of major security problems as the Linux kernel... none.
Where you get security holes is in applications. For example, IIS has had more major security holes than Apache. Apache is based on NCSA httpd, which wasn't developed for Linux - it was developed for Unix.
For a better example, look at Sendmail vs. Exchange. Sendmail was, for the longest time, one of the least secure pieces of software out there. By the time Microsoft released Exchange, Sendmail had matured enough that even though every other Unix hole was still attributable to Sendmail, it managed to be more secure than the newly-released Exchange.
My real point is that Linux and Unix share an application base. Most of the major programs that are used on UNIX will run on Linux just by recompiling.
I bet you couldn't find a single major program that will run on both VMS and NT but not Unix a/o Linux.