$2000/yr is not a lot of money and believe it or not, most companies (hosting, colo, and webservers) generally provide mail servers for you to use. Just because some techie wants to run their own qmail-patched-hacked-whatever (I love qmail, btw) doesn't mean they should. If they mess up, it could mess up the system. $2000/yr comes out to $166/mo. I pay more for satellite and DSL than that.
Anyways, get the arm band, it's only $30(for the mini only) and works great for me at the gym. Take it off to lift weights as it'll cut off the blood flow, but for running and stuff, it works great.
A bit of advice though, don't play the Music Quiz game in public, people will look at ya funny for awhile.
Bah, I guess I'm not a techie then. I guess I'll format my Gentoo laptop and my 10-year-old FreeBSD desktop that I've been upgrading since 2.2.5. =( Oh well.
Or, maybe the iPod mini is smaller(!). Doesn't need to have it's software re-written every two or three days like the Audible Otis(!). It plays AND keeps track of Audible books without having to low-level format it, again every two or three days(!). 4Gigs should be enough for a simple music player. Not forever, but for now, 4gigs is enough. It's a lot more than most others of comparable size(256megs, 64megs). Doesn't need external chips (Oh yeah, it can hold up to a gig. That'll be $99 for the 64meg player plus $350 for the Secure Digital Memory Card. Much cheaper than $250 for a 4 gig unit.
The iPod mini looks good, performs well, isn't the size of a freakin' hard drive(!), and iTunes really kicks.
The unemployment rate is different from the rate of those out of work. Many people have given up(bad) or gone back to school(good, but not the best way). That is why the unemployment rate has gone up and then back down quickly, because when people quit looking they are no longer "unemployed" but simply "not working."
I think since.NET and Java are the only byte-code languages out there, and that it takes time to develop things like this, and the speed at which they are moving, we will have a good product out when it is ready. The Perl spirit pretty much demands that you move on to the newest and best.
People do not understand that Perl is losing a lot of its base(which is now going to PHP). But there are hard-core perl devs out there who will still be around.
Perl has a habit of filling in where other things simply do not fit. From CGI(Which before was only done in C, Perl got wind of it and fill it up nicely. Seriously, with mod_perl, and now PHP with mmcache or Zend Accelerator, C is the slowest language you can do CGI with. It's pre-compiled? So what? Perl and PHP with those above are pre-compiled, optimized, both CPU wise and code wise, and In Memory. C is on the hard drive, gotta access it each time. Even if it was stored in memory, it is missing a lot of optimizations. It is easier to optimize a high level language sometimes than a lower-level language).
Now PHP is taking up where Perl was. Perl is moving to other things, as well as staying in its more traditional roles. That's all. It won't be people moving from P5 to P6. It will be people moving from anything else to P6.
P6 will be a pretty good language, and parrot looks great already. I can't wait to compile python or lisp to parrot assemby and mess around in there. Should be enough to make my head explode.
Java and C have their place, but I promise you Java's acceptance was pushed back about 5 years because of applets. It was a great language, then I saw applets and decided not to learn it. I've learned it now(a few years ago, I didn't wait 5), but I know I am not the only one who ignored it because of applets. I hate to see a web page take up 100% of my cpu! C, well, you gotta love C. =) But I like Obj-C. =) Thank you GCC for compiling it too!
The porn sites are just using well-chosen keywords. They know who (cough-slashdotters-cough) look up porn and are just trying to tempt them even more so.
"Watch me hack X lib while f----g myself with this USB keydrive! OH XFREE86! OH XF86!!!! UGH!!! XLIBS!! XLIBSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
No, they only offer "civildogster.com" it has only a few of the same features, nearly none of the benefits, but it has a different name and follows the ideology of a mis-translated old book. But it should be good enough for them!!
Yeah, but you know what they say, better a penny than nothing. =)
It's still something you can post in your resume, much better than "4 years, McDonalds". Better to say "I've done the following extensions to...." or "I've managed a team to program...."
There are actually many OSS projects out there that are demanding completion dates(just look at BSD, KDE, etc..) and are forcing only bug-fix checkins. Yeah, if you work on most OSS projects, you'll have no deadline, but you will have some real-world experience. But that's a lot better than only having a deadline of 2 minutes to take an order for fries. =)
Umm, did you miss my post? I said he should work on OSS while he graduates college. So he'd be a college grad WITH experience. And yes, most employers these days do give a damn about experience. I work as a company and have more work than I can handle, they don't ask where I've gone to college, they ask what have I done before like what they want.
Not all software has to be free. But there are a few good things that will come from his open source project:
1) Experience. Seriously. Who would hire a fresh-out-of-college person with no real world experience? At least when they contribute to open source they have some real world experience. If the software gets big, even better. If it is some small piddly OSS project, well, at least you tried. You have guy A who goes off, does what he has to do to pass college, and goes party. You have guy B, who now has a masters, plus 6, 8, or 10 years of real-world programming experience. Who will you hire? Seriously. Don't get a life, it won't get you work. =)
2) Hey, geeks know geeks. You apply for a job, you are the new "project manager" and have to keep several programmers working for you. You introduce yourself to you new team, say that you do this, you know this, and you've worked on this. Right there, you can get a good scoop of respect right there and get your work off to a great start.
3) You could get a job supporting or expanding on whatever project you've been working on. Not likely a full time job, but perhaps a few extra bucks every now and then, eh?
I think this guy is just scared that he soon will be outsourced. I think that because he has chosen to be a programmer, only one of the many things you can do with a CS degree, that he is very afraid that OSS programmers and OSS is taking away his work. Really, programming needs to be in two degrees, "basic" which is a 2 year degree, and advanced, which can be from 4 to 6 years. Programming is a commodity, it is a service industry. The more advanced things are program design(yes, I know, everyone complains about flowcharting it, UML, etc.. when they are in school, but when you gotta write that up and send it off to India, it matters, since it may be the only thing keeping you employed).
I think people get programming confused with an advanced profession because it is so flexible. It can be extremely advanced, from writing compilers, to JITs, etc... There is so much theory out there. But really, it is just doing the same stuff over and over again slightly differently. Yes, there are different languages. No, they are not difficult to learn new ones. Once you know the basics of programming it all falls in pretty quickly. How much you actually use of what new stuff you learned is pretty low on the scale too.
Whether you are writing enterprise apps(which has several methods, procedures, and theories on its own) or a quick one-off web app, it is basically the same stuff. I will say that enterprise apps require more discipline and knowledge than a quick one-off web app, but most of that can be learned in a month or two easily. Yes, univ's stretch it out by you only going to class two or three times a week for several months, and learning many other things while you are there. But if you focus, you can learn it all pretty quick.
Thank you! Everyone else on this is just posting "it's not terrorism" or "it was just a joke". I agree, this guy should be thrown in the slammer or put adrift at sea or something. If he hasn't learned that 911 is an EMERGENCY number by now, he has a serious learning disability. He could have had it dial up a 1-900 number or something. It would have been much less damaging to everyone else in the city.
Taking up 911 calls. I admit, it is ridiculous to call this terrorism, but I believe people who put others in danger need to be punished severely. Make it call a 1-900 number or some other number, but 911? Come on, he should think of more than just himself and his humor.
They did. Establish a S corp or a C corp and pay your taxes every week or every two weeks. You can get software to do it.
Pick up "Own your own Corporation" from Rich Dad Poor Dad(Amazon, bn.com, even sometimes the public library!)
If it's legal it's not cheating on your taxes. It just means YOU WORKED MORE ON YOUR TAXES. IF YOU WORK MORE you should earn more. And a penny saved is a penny earned.
Actually, 50% of the workforce is employed by 'small businesses' which aren't rich people. But you do make a good point.
Also, don't underestimate government budgets. That could be new roads, infrastructure, etc... They have to hire people to do that. So that $56 billion could partially eliminate that traffic jam you have to deal with, keep the calif. fires more under control, etc.. $56 billion is a lot of people working when they are only being paid $40k and less a year. Mind you, not all of that would go to that, but that's a HUGE boost to jobs. And companies need work, and many companies work for the gov't.
But yeah, jobs have to come from either the private sector or the public sector. When people are squirreling it away(like the people benefitting from Bush's tax cuts), that money doesn't create new jobs.
Mind you there are many 'questionable' activites, but there are MANY MANY more that won't save as much as the 'questionable' activities that will still save a pretty penny and are COMPLETELY legal.
Lord forbid anyone go to the bookstore and learn how to do it too. Or even the library.
Work earns you money, and a penny saved is a penny earned.
Get the Rich Dad Poor Dad books, best on the market IMO.
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Actually no, because they do not have the rights t use those frequencies, and they disperse noise outside of the building. If they can get the noise from going outside the building, then I don't care, but they should put a sign up.
They will quickly see their business dissipate into nothing, as cell phones become more and more popular. Not everyone is using their cell phone at a cafe or restaraunt, just because you don't see it doesn't mean they don't have it.
But it is worth a try to see if it actually could work, because I could be wrong that their business would dissipate into nothing.
Of course they can do it now, by putting up a sign that says "Please turn off your cell phones" and asking anyone who uses theirs to leave.
Yeah, but a cafe and a lower end restaraunt are not inappropriate places. Shopping is not inappropriate. Of course speaking loudly on it is inappropriate, but take away the cell phone and add another person in the cell phone's place, and speaking loudly is still inappropriate.
On the street is not inappropriate. People in movie theaters, churches, and nicer restaraunts, then it is very inapproriate.
But remember, you definition of a 'nice' restaraunt and a 'lower end' restaraunt may be different than someone who goes somewhere each day.
And yes, there is a book on this.
Emily's Post Book of Etiquette, available from Amazon.
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$2000/yr is not a lot of money and believe it or not, most companies (hosting, colo, and webservers) generally provide mail servers for you to use. Just because some techie wants to run their own qmail-patched-hacked-whatever (I love qmail, btw) doesn't mean they should. If they mess up, it could mess up the system. $2000/yr comes out to $166/mo. I pay more for satellite and DSL than that.
Yeah, I picked up William Hung's prerelease tracks on iTunes today. =) What a waste of tech, but very kick ass. Go William!
OMG I'm becoming an apple freak. =)
Anyways, get the arm band, it's only $30(for the mini only) and works great for me at the gym. Take it off to lift weights as it'll cut off the blood flow, but for running and stuff, it works great.
A bit of advice though, don't play the Music Quiz game in public, people will look at ya funny for awhile.
Someone I knew once wanted a laptop, but I told them for the same amount they could get a desktop tower with a lot more storage and power.
But they wanted "portability" and the regular ipods are the size of a regular hard drive.
Bah, I guess I'm not a techie then. I guess I'll format my Gentoo laptop and my 10-year-old FreeBSD desktop that I've been upgrading since 2.2.5. =( Oh well.
Or, maybe the iPod mini is smaller(!). Doesn't need to have it's software re-written every two or three days like the Audible Otis(!). It plays AND keeps track of Audible books without having to low-level format it, again every two or three days(!). 4Gigs should be enough for a simple music player. Not forever, but for now, 4gigs is enough. It's a lot more than most others of comparable size(256megs, 64megs). Doesn't need external chips (Oh yeah, it can hold up to a gig. That'll be $99 for the 64meg player plus $350 for the Secure Digital Memory Card. Much cheaper than $250 for a 4 gig unit.
The iPod mini looks good, performs well, isn't the size of a freakin' hard drive(!), and iTunes really kicks.
The unemployment rate is different from the rate of those out of work. Many people have given up(bad) or gone back to school(good, but not the best way). That is why the unemployment rate has gone up and then back down quickly, because when people quit looking they are no longer "unemployed" but simply "not working."
Dibs on the first ASIST implants! Hook me up with a datajack and a bio-feedback filter and I could own the world!
(Shadowrun reference for those who don't know).
Moved on to What?
.NET and Java are the only byte-code languages out there, and that it takes time to develop things like this, and the speed at which they are moving, we will have a good product out when it is ready. The Perl spirit pretty much demands that you move on to the newest and best.
I think since
People do not understand that Perl is losing a lot of its base(which is now going to PHP). But there are hard-core perl devs out there who will still be around.
Perl has a habit of filling in where other things simply do not fit. From CGI(Which before was only done in C, Perl got wind of it and fill it up nicely. Seriously, with mod_perl, and now PHP with mmcache or Zend Accelerator, C is the slowest language you can do CGI with. It's pre-compiled? So what? Perl and PHP with those above are pre-compiled, optimized, both CPU wise and code wise, and In Memory. C is on the hard drive, gotta access it each time. Even if it was stored in memory, it is missing a lot of optimizations. It is easier to optimize a high level language sometimes than a lower-level language).
Now PHP is taking up where Perl was. Perl is moving to other things, as well as staying in its more traditional roles. That's all. It won't be people moving from P5 to P6. It will be people moving from anything else to P6.
P6 will be a pretty good language, and parrot looks great already. I can't wait to compile python or lisp to parrot assemby and mess around in there. Should be enough to make my head explode.
Java and C have their place, but I promise you Java's acceptance was pushed back about 5 years because of applets. It was a great language, then I saw applets and decided not to learn it. I've learned it now(a few years ago, I didn't wait 5), but I know I am not the only one who ignored it because of applets. I hate to see a web page take up 100% of my cpu! C, well, you gotta love C. =) But I like Obj-C. =) Thank you GCC for compiling it too!
The porn sites are just using well-chosen keywords. They know who (cough-slashdotters-cough) look up porn and are just trying to tempt them even more so.
"Watch me hack X lib while f----g myself with this USB keydrive! OH XFREE86! OH XF86!!!! UGH!!! XLIBS!! XLIBSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Today President Bush announced an emergency $5million to fund writers for employees at NASA upon hearing their speeches.
Seriously though, very cool. =) But my god people, get WRITERS!
No, they only offer "civildogster.com" it has only a few of the same features, nearly none of the benefits, but it has a different name and follows the ideology of a mis-translated old book. But it should be good enough for them!!
n t/ bible-gay.html
http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrights/sexorie
http://www.postfun.com/pfp/homosexual.html
Invasion of Privacy, Tracking purchases, cash not anonymous, blah blah blah. It's all true. But this is really cool.
I am so gonna go get a new $20 from the bank to try this out. =)
Bush would say:
It's clearly stated who they will sue, right here, on this blank sheet of paper. You see it? Right there, with my military history. That's right.
Anyone got a gallon of gas for $25? I know we're in Iraq but gas is expensive, right Halliburton?
Yeah, but you know what they say, better a penny than nothing. =)
...." or "I've managed a team to program ...."
It's still something you can post in your resume, much better than "4 years, McDonalds". Better to say "I've done the following extensions to
There are actually many OSS projects out there that are demanding completion dates(just look at BSD, KDE, etc..) and are forcing only bug-fix checkins. Yeah, if you work on most OSS projects, you'll have no deadline, but you will have some real-world experience. But that's a lot better than only having a deadline of 2 minutes to take an order for fries. =)
Umm, did you miss my post? I said he should work on OSS while he graduates college. So he'd be a college grad WITH experience. And yes, most employers these days do give a damn about experience. I work as a company and have more work than I can handle, they don't ask where I've gone to college, they ask what have I done before like what they want.
Not all software has to be free. But there are a few good things that will come from his open source project:
1) Experience.
Seriously. Who would hire a fresh-out-of-college person with no real world experience? At least when they contribute to open source they have some real world experience. If the software gets big, even better. If it is some small piddly OSS project, well, at least you tried. You have guy A who goes off, does what he has to do to pass college, and goes party. You have guy B, who now has a masters, plus 6, 8, or 10 years of real-world programming experience. Who will you hire? Seriously. Don't get a life, it won't get you work. =)
2) Hey, geeks know geeks. You apply for a job, you are the new "project manager" and have to keep several programmers working for you. You introduce yourself to you new team, say that you do this, you know this, and you've worked on this. Right there, you can get a good scoop of respect right there and get your work off to a great start.
3) You could get a job supporting or expanding on whatever project you've been working on. Not likely a full time job, but perhaps a few extra bucks every now and then, eh?
I think this guy is just scared that he soon will be outsourced. I think that because he has chosen to be a programmer, only one of the many things you can do with a CS degree, that he is very afraid that OSS programmers and OSS is taking away his work. Really, programming needs to be in two degrees, "basic" which is a 2 year degree, and advanced, which can be from 4 to 6 years. Programming is a commodity, it is a service industry. The more advanced things are program design(yes, I know, everyone complains about flowcharting it, UML, etc.. when they are in school, but when you gotta write that up and send it off to India, it matters, since it may be the only thing keeping you employed).
I think people get programming confused with an advanced profession because it is so flexible. It can be extremely advanced, from writing compilers, to JITs, etc... There is so much theory out there. But really, it is just doing the same stuff over and over again slightly differently. Yes, there are different languages. No, they are not difficult to learn new ones. Once you know the basics of programming it all falls in pretty quickly. How much you actually use of what new stuff you learned is pretty low on the scale too.
Whether you are writing enterprise apps(which has several methods, procedures, and theories on its own) or a quick one-off web app, it is basically the same stuff. I will say that enterprise apps require more discipline and knowledge than a quick one-off web app, but most of that can be learned in a month or two easily. Yes, univ's stretch it out by you only going to class two or three times a week for several months, and learning many other things while you are there. But if you focus, you can learn it all pretty quick.
Thank you! Everyone else on this is just posting "it's not terrorism" or "it was just a joke". I agree, this guy should be thrown in the slammer or put adrift at sea or something. If he hasn't learned that 911 is an EMERGENCY number by now, he has a serious learning disability. He could have had it dial up a 1-900 number or something. It would have been much less damaging to everyone else in the city.
Taking up 911 calls. I admit, it is ridiculous to call this terrorism, but I believe people who put others in danger need to be punished severely. Make it call a 1-900 number or some other number, but 911? Come on, he should think of more than just himself and his humor.
LOL, Compare the Top .5 % and the top .5% of the the top 1%. You'll see a HUGE difference. =) That's what I call rich, but I have aspirations.
As far as a business with multiple employees, that doesn't really mean anything. Esp. as starting businesses don't pay the owners, just the employees.
But yeah, you could argue anything over $100K a year is rich.
LOL, I am 3/4 the way there. But I am young, and came into age after the boom, so I need a little more time. =)
They did. Establish a S corp or a C corp and pay your taxes every week or every two weeks. You can get software to do it.
Pick up "Own your own Corporation" from Rich Dad Poor Dad(Amazon, bn.com, even sometimes the public library!)
If it's legal it's not cheating on your taxes. It just means YOU WORKED MORE ON YOUR TAXES. IF YOU WORK MORE you should earn more. And a penny saved is a penny earned.
Actually, 50% of the workforce is employed by 'small businesses' which aren't rich people. But you do make a good point.
Also, don't underestimate government budgets. That could be new roads, infrastructure, etc... They have to hire people to do that. So that $56 billion could partially eliminate that traffic jam you have to deal with, keep the calif. fires more under control, etc.. $56 billion is a lot of people working when they are only being paid $40k and less a year. Mind you, not all of that would go to that, but that's a HUGE boost to jobs. And companies need work, and many companies work for the gov't.
But yeah, jobs have to come from either the private sector or the public sector. When people are squirreling it away(like the people benefitting from Bush's tax cuts), that money doesn't create new jobs.
Mind you there are many 'questionable' activites, but there are MANY MANY more that won't save as much as the 'questionable' activities that will still save a pretty penny and are COMPLETELY legal.
Lord forbid anyone go to the bookstore and learn how to do it too. Or even the library.
Work earns you money, and a penny saved is a penny earned.
Get the Rich Dad Poor Dad books, best on the market IMO.
Actually no, because they do not have the rights t use those frequencies, and they disperse noise outside of the building. If they can get the noise from going outside the building, then I don't care, but they should put a sign up.
They will quickly see their business dissipate into nothing, as cell phones become more and more popular. Not everyone is using their cell phone at a cafe or restaraunt, just because you don't see it doesn't mean they don't have it.
But it is worth a try to see if it actually could work, because I could be wrong that their business would dissipate into nothing.
Of course they can do it now, by putting up a sign that says "Please turn off your cell phones" and asking anyone who uses theirs to leave.
Yeah, but a cafe and a lower end restaraunt are not inappropriate places. Shopping is not inappropriate. Of course speaking loudly on it is inappropriate, but take away the cell phone and add another person in the cell phone's place, and speaking loudly is still inappropriate.
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On the street is not inappropriate. People in movie theaters, churches, and nicer restaraunts, then it is very inapproriate.
But remember, you definition of a 'nice' restaraunt and a 'lower end' restaraunt may be different than someone who goes somewhere each day.
And yes, there is a book on this.
Emily's Post Book of Etiquette, available from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/00627007
Every tech guy should have this SHOVED down their throat before they can complain about anything.
Remember, the guy on the cell phone may be being rude, but chances are you are too one way or another, and just don't know it.