Were talking about something equivalent of 10+ year old graphics technology shrunk down in die size with newer chip fab processes. It consumes all but what, a fraction of a watt? And that's if it's heavily utilized via consoled KVM?
Actually, more often than not, for new deployments the video card is going to be virtual anyway.
Which brings up another point: GUI-less Windows will make a lot of sense for servers that are only going to be running as Hyper-V hosts.
(Why anyone would willingly run Hyper-V is beyond me, but it does happen in some places.)
No, it means that all of the Linux distributors are going to be sued because Microsoft obviously has a boatload of bogus patents for "method and apparatus for a server operating system running without a graphical user interface" and they'll find a bunch of patsies to roll over and sign licensing agreements proving that the bogus patents are valid.
It's hard for people to tear themselves away from Facebook even though everyone hates Facebook. As a blogger once commented -- when push comes to shove -- EVERYONE hates Facebook:
And please don’t tell me about your friend Captain Vacuous who would demur with the above sentiment. You are wrong about this. Trust me. Even the diehards, the partisans, the addicts, the gushing zombie morons (‘it’s such a great way to keep in TOUCH with people!”) shiny-chinned with the drool from a thousand and one nights of Facebook-induced catatonia SECRETLY hate facebook . They hate it the way an addict secretly hates the object of her addiction, notwithstanding the fact that she will continually crawl over glass specifically sharpened by sadists to get it.
I didn't like high school the first time around, why would I want to go through that particular brand of hell again? That's why I don't use Facebook.
The word "victim" in the title is correct, though. Facebook destroys everything that is not Facebook. Small community web sites, forums, blogs, etc. and now things like high school reunions, local clubs and organizations, people going outside and looking up from their screens once in a while... all of it suffering right now because all anyone wants to do anymore is fuck around on Facebook.
We welcome all of the new Facebook millionaires! They can hang out in the posh Silicon Valley country clubs along with all of the Red Hat millionaires, the VA Linux millionaires, and the Netscape millionaires...
Not gonna happen. HP needs to exit the non-Windows tablet business now that their corporate masters in Redmond have commanded them to get into the Windows Phone 8 Tablet business. Tablets from HP, Dell, Acer, and Lenovo will be all Windows, all the time.
Listen, Google: I know you and Intel want Android running on x86 in order to diversify the ecosystem, and that's all well and good, but there's something you need to do as quickly as possible.
You need to get Android apps running on every desktop computer, at the same snappy speed they run on cell phones.
Microsoft is looking to sneak this in the back door by forcing Windows 8 users to become Windows Phone users. You can counter this by putting a full Android runtime into Chrome, and perhaps even making it dockable in Linux/Mac/Windows as well. With the full catalog of Android apps available on every desktop, Android will become the de facto new standard operating system for everything, everywhere.
It's even simpler than that. There will soon be a generation of kids who wouldn't be caught dead on the same social network as their parents. Eventually, we will get to a point where Facebook will be for old people, just like email is considered by the under-25 set now.
By now it's obvious that there are a large number of Linux users (likely even a majority) who want computer desktops to look and act the way desktops are expected to function. Why take decades of design evolution, much of it accomplished by many iterations of trial and error, and just throw it away for something experimental?
What the Mint folks are doing here is the right approach. It's clear that their extensions ought to be rolled into the GNOME mainline, so that every single user has the option to choose between the Shell style desktop and a taskbar style desktop with a single click.
Let's avoid calling it "classic" as well, because that implies it to be quaint and outmoded. It's not. Until recently, the whole world settled on taskbar style desktops because they work really well for a computer with a keyboard and an upright display. Although the self-importanterati of user interface design refuse to admit it, a desktop is not a tablet and it makes no sense to use the same user interface across both of them.
Not to worry -- many of us in America are tired of having to deal with American insanity as well. We're on the brink of collapse due to the power held by special interests.
What our German friends seem to have forgotten is that in the United States, we have the awesome lobbying power of the MPAA. Now they're going to make it difficult to impossible to buy FPGA programmers. If that sounds ridiculous to you, remember how difficult they made it to obtain Smart Card writers once people started figuring out how to clone DirecTV cards.
I'm with you... Ubuntu is gone on nearly all of my computers now. Unity makes it pretty damn unusable. I switched to ordinary Debian but I hear Mint is getting quite a following now and is on its way to becoming "the new Ubuntu."
For the last 30 years or so, all sorts of interesting hobbies have fallen by the wayside because the big hobby for technically inclined people to take up was tinkering with computers. Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's I saw people lose interest in things like electronics, astronomy, stage lighting, and yes, amateur radio. Everyone wanted to play with computers instead.
We've finally reached a stage where computers simply aren't interesting anymore. They're so generic, so bland, so uniform and cookie-cutter (yes, even you, Apple) that they just don't appeal as a hobby anymore. Unless you work in the industry they're just a tool to get a job done.
As a result, there's a new void appearing among people who love to tinker. Amateur radio is a great outlet for that. The equipment is complex enough to enjoy working with but simple enough that you can work on it yourself. Lots of other hobbies will be making a comeback in the same way. I myself have become interested in tinkering with small diesel engines - have you seen the availability of parts out there for CheapChinese(tm) Yanmar 186F clones? A hobbyist can build a go-kart or a homemade pressure washer really easily now.
The answer to antibiotic-resistant bugs is to develop *new* and *different* antibiotics. It's that whole diversity thing, y'know? The problem is that Big Pharma is no longer interested in developing drugs that make you better. There's far more money involved in developing drugs that you have to take for the rest of your life. When was the last time you saw a television commercial for an antibiotic? Nope, they'd rather have you on an antidepressant, a cholesterol medicine, a supplement for people whose antidepressants are rendered less effective by their cholesterol medicine, something for the high blood pressure resulting from the previous three medications, and of course something to perk up the old limp noodle from time to time.
Google has every right to use your SSID for geolocation purposes. The privacy whiners all seem to conveniently forget that when you operate a wifi access point, you are BROADCASTING your SSID to anyone within range. It is the same as if you switched on an AM or FM radio transmitter in your home or business and continuously spoke into the microphone: "My network is named kitty-net... my network is named kitty-net... my network is named kitty-net..."
If you don't want something known to anyone within range, you might consider not BROADCASTING it. Every access point in the world has the ability to shut off its SSID announcements.
One must call into question whether Ubuntu is even relevant anymore. The reason Ubuntu became so popular in the first place is because they provided a really good looking desktop that "just works" and offered a really easy install. (The free CD's in the mail didn't hurt either.)
But now all the other Linuxes have caught up, and at the same time, Ubuntu now ships Unity, a desktop that is being overwhelmingly rejected by existing Linux users, and Shuttleworth is openly hostile to critics of his pet desktop. Because of all this, it's reasonable to conclude that Ubuntu has jumped the shark.
Browser-accessed software does not lessen the incentive to work on native Linux apps. It lessens the incentive to work on native desktop apps in general. The number of native Linux apps that aren't getting written is dwarfed by the number of native Windows apps that aren't getting written. Think about it in that perspective.
Let's be realistic here. No one "switches" from Google to Bing. The only reason Bing has any users at all is the same reason why most of Microsoft's products and services have any users at all: it's the default in Windows. People use Bing for the same reason they use IE: their Windows computers came that way and they're either too lazy to change it or aren't aware that there are alternatives.
Two year advantage? How about NO advantage? I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II in my pocket right now that I can talk to in "natural language" -- it's every bit as functional and accurate as Siri and I don't have to handcuff myself to the phone's manufacturer to use it.
So... not only do large numbers of existing Linux users hate Unity, but Shuttleworth is either denying the fact or mocking us. The fact is, with this much of the existing installed base rejecting Unity, it only makes sense to offer a well-supported classic desktop as a top-tier option. Not happening, though -- and because of this, one must then begin to wonder: without the slick desktop, what does Ubuntu really offer that stock Debian doesn't?
After five years as a happy Ubuntu user, I've jumped ship and moved to Debian, where Xfce is just as good as it is on Ubuntu. Ubuntu has jumped the shark.
You are absolutely correct. Unity may be Shuttleworth's pet project but it alienates existing users so badly, that Ubuntu has essentially jumped the shark. After five happy years with Ubuntu I've bailed out and switched to regular Debian. They may be a slow moving train but at least they don't alienate their users.
Yes, you are correct in that Linus was complaining about GNOME 3, not Unity. The real problem here is that all of the big desktops (including and especially Apple and Microsoft) are moving towards a very ugly trend of trying to turn the computer desktop into an overgrown smartphone. Users who have a choice (i.e. Linux desktop users who know how to switch) are generally responding by telling them to piss off and then installing something like Xfce that still looks like a computer.
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Were talking about something equivalent of 10+ year old graphics technology shrunk down in die size with newer chip fab processes. It consumes all but what, a fraction of a watt? And that's if it's heavily utilized via consoled KVM?
Actually, more often than not, for new deployments the video card is going to be virtual anyway.
Which brings up another point: GUI-less Windows will make a lot of sense for servers that are only going to be running as Hyper-V hosts.
(Why anyone would willingly run Hyper-V is beyond me, but it does happen in some places.)
No, it means that all of the Linux distributors are going to be sued because Microsoft obviously has a boatload of bogus patents for "method and apparatus for a server operating system running without a graphical user interface" and they'll find a bunch of patsies to roll over and sign licensing agreements proving that the bogus patents are valid.
Just like they did with Android.
It's hard for people to tear themselves away from Facebook even though everyone hates Facebook. As a blogger once commented -- when push comes to shove -- EVERYONE hates Facebook:
I didn't like high school the first time around, why would I want to go through that particular brand of hell again? That's why I don't use Facebook.
... all of it suffering right now because all anyone wants to do anymore is fuck around on Facebook.
The word "victim" in the title is correct, though. Facebook destroys everything that is not Facebook. Small community web sites, forums, blogs, etc. and now things like high school reunions, local clubs and organizations, people going outside and looking up from their screens once in a while
I do hope this changes sometime soon.
We welcome all of the new Facebook millionaires! They can hang out in the posh Silicon Valley country clubs along with all of the Red Hat millionaires, the VA Linux millionaires, and the Netscape millionaires...
What? What? Was it something I said?
Not gonna happen. HP needs to exit the non-Windows tablet business now that their corporate masters in Redmond have commanded them to get into the Windows Phone 8 Tablet business. Tablets from HP, Dell, Acer, and Lenovo will be all Windows, all the time.
Listen, Google: I know you and Intel want Android running on x86 in order to diversify the ecosystem, and that's all well and good, but there's something you need to do as quickly as possible.
You need to get Android apps running on every desktop computer, at the same snappy speed they run on cell phones.
Microsoft is looking to sneak this in the back door by forcing Windows 8 users to become Windows Phone users. You can counter this by putting a full Android runtime into Chrome, and perhaps even making it dockable in Linux/Mac/Windows as well. With the full catalog of Android apps available on every desktop, Android will become the de facto new standard operating system for everything, everywhere.
Do this now. Before Microsoft does.
It's even simpler than that. There will soon be a generation of kids who wouldn't be caught dead on the same social network as their parents. Eventually, we will get to a point where Facebook will be for old people, just like email is considered by the under-25 set now.
Now you kids get off my lawn!
By now it's obvious that there are a large number of Linux users (likely even a majority) who want computer desktops to look and act the way desktops are expected to function. Why take decades of design evolution, much of it accomplished by many iterations of trial and error, and just throw it away for something experimental?
What the Mint folks are doing here is the right approach. It's clear that their extensions ought to be rolled into the GNOME mainline, so that every single user has the option to choose between the Shell style desktop and a taskbar style desktop with a single click.
Let's avoid calling it "classic" as well, because that implies it to be quaint and outmoded. It's not. Until recently, the whole world settled on taskbar style desktops because they work really well for a computer with a keyboard and an upright display. Although the self-importanterati of user interface design refuse to admit it, a desktop is not a tablet and it makes no sense to use the same user interface across both of them.
Not to worry -- many of us in America are tired of having to deal with American insanity as well. We're on the brink of collapse due to the power held by special interests.
What our German friends seem to have forgotten is that in the United States, we have the awesome lobbying power of the MPAA. Now they're going to make it difficult to impossible to buy FPGA programmers. If that sounds ridiculous to you, remember how difficult they made it to obtain Smart Card writers once people started figuring out how to clone DirecTV cards.
I'm with you ... Ubuntu is gone on nearly all of my computers now. Unity makes it pretty damn unusable. I switched to ordinary Debian but I hear Mint is getting quite a following now and is on its way to becoming "the new Ubuntu."
Spaceman really jumped the shark with this one.
For the last 30 years or so, all sorts of interesting hobbies have fallen by the wayside because the big hobby for technically inclined people to take up was tinkering with computers. Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's I saw people lose interest in things like electronics, astronomy, stage lighting, and yes, amateur radio. Everyone wanted to play with computers instead.
We've finally reached a stage where computers simply aren't interesting anymore. They're so generic, so bland, so uniform and cookie-cutter (yes, even you, Apple) that they just don't appeal as a hobby anymore. Unless you work in the industry they're just a tool to get a job done.
As a result, there's a new void appearing among people who love to tinker. Amateur radio is a great outlet for that. The equipment is complex enough to enjoy working with but simple enough that you can work on it yourself. Lots of other hobbies will be making a comeback in the same way. I myself have become interested in tinkering with small diesel engines - have you seen the availability of parts out there for CheapChinese(tm) Yanmar 186F clones? A hobbyist can build a go-kart or a homemade pressure washer really easily now.
The answer to antibiotic-resistant bugs is to develop *new* and *different* antibiotics. It's that whole diversity thing, y'know? The problem is that Big Pharma is no longer interested in developing drugs that make you better. There's far more money involved in developing drugs that you have to take for the rest of your life. When was the last time you saw a television commercial for an antibiotic? Nope, they'd rather have you on an antidepressant, a cholesterol medicine, a supplement for people whose antidepressants are rendered less effective by their cholesterol medicine, something for the high blood pressure resulting from the previous three medications, and of course something to perk up the old limp noodle from time to time.
Cure sickness? Once? Where's the money in that?
Dear Carriers:
What you want the least, is what your customers want you to be the most: a dumb pipe.
Please get out of our way.
Sincerely,
Your Customers
Google has every right to use your SSID for geolocation purposes. The privacy whiners all seem to conveniently forget that when you operate a wifi access point, you are BROADCASTING your SSID to anyone within range. It is the same as if you switched on an AM or FM radio transmitter in your home or business and continuously spoke into the microphone: "My network is named kitty-net ... my network is named kitty-net ... my network is named kitty-net ..."
If you don't want something known to anyone within range, you might consider not BROADCASTING it. Every access point in the world has the ability to shut off its SSID announcements.
One must call into question whether Ubuntu is even relevant anymore. The reason Ubuntu became so popular in the first place is because they provided a really good looking desktop that "just works" and offered a really easy install. (The free CD's in the mail didn't hurt either.)
But now all the other Linuxes have caught up, and at the same time, Ubuntu now ships Unity, a desktop that is being overwhelmingly rejected by existing Linux users, and Shuttleworth is openly hostile to critics of his pet desktop. Because of all this, it's reasonable to conclude that Ubuntu has jumped the shark.
Browser-accessed software does not lessen the incentive to work on native Linux apps. It lessens the incentive to work on native desktop apps in general. The number of native Linux apps that aren't getting written is dwarfed by the number of native Windows apps that aren't getting written. Think about it in that perspective.
Let's be realistic here. No one "switches" from Google to Bing. The only reason Bing has any users at all is the same reason why most of Microsoft's products and services have any users at all: it's the default in Windows. People use Bing for the same reason they use IE: their Windows computers came that way and they're either too lazy to change it or aren't aware that there are alternatives.
I just sent this story to someone and got this reply:
They are piece of shit assholes
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Two year advantage? How about NO advantage? I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II in my pocket right now that I can talk to in "natural language" -- it's every bit as functional and accurate as Siri and I don't have to handcuff myself to the phone's manufacturer to use it.
So ... not only do large numbers of existing Linux users hate Unity, but Shuttleworth is either denying the fact or mocking us. The fact is, with this much of the existing installed base rejecting Unity, it only makes sense to offer a well-supported classic desktop as a top-tier option. Not happening, though -- and because of this, one must then begin to wonder: without the slick desktop, what does Ubuntu really offer that stock Debian doesn't?
After five years as a happy Ubuntu user, I've jumped ship and moved to Debian, where Xfce is just as good as it is on Ubuntu. Ubuntu has jumped the shark.
You are absolutely correct. Unity may be Shuttleworth's pet project but it alienates existing users so badly, that Ubuntu has essentially jumped the shark. After five happy years with Ubuntu I've bailed out and switched to regular Debian. They may be a slow moving train but at least they don't alienate their users.
Yes, you are correct in that Linus was complaining about GNOME 3, not Unity. The real problem here is that all of the big desktops (including and especially Apple and Microsoft) are moving towards a very ugly trend of trying to turn the computer desktop into an overgrown smartphone. Users who have a choice (i.e. Linux desktop users who know how to switch) are generally responding by telling them to piss off and then installing something like Xfce that still looks like a computer.