Whatever kind of prick David Cameron is, it's not a socialist one, genius.
Going just by the context of this article, it sounds like the government is trying to take control of the public wifi service industry. Which is either pure socialism or economic fascism, depending on how it's implemented.
But Cameron is the guy who's a war hawk and servant to the central bankers, right? That would exclude pure socialism from the choices above.
Right - Pandora is in control of the content; Aereo is just transmitting a signal somebody else controls over the Internet. If Pandora were re-transmitting an FM station from some market instead of choosing the songs.... wait, how did this ever go from a lame draft on somebody's blog to a Slashdot story?
Yeah, a startling degree of the assumptions in American society are "because the Bible says so." It's not quite so clear without digging below the surface, because culture is generally accepted because it's extant, but Puritanism is alive and well here in "polite society".
If Assange faced rape charges in Sweden, how would that lead to extradition to the US?
The two countries have an extradition treaty.
Again, Assange hasn't been charged with anything in the US and there is no extradition request.
There's a sealed grand jury indictment in the US on charges of criminal activity under the Espionage Act that has been leaked. See the Sydney Morning Herald report on it.
Nor does Sweden have a record that would indicate they would extradite him.
They've extradited three people to the US for torture ("extraordinary rendition") in Egypt at CIA black ops sites there. See Agiza v. Sweden at the European Court of Human Rights.
You're saying there is some conspiracy that the CIA framed him for something fairly trivial in Sweden (rather than just apprehend him) to get him extradited, when the whole thing is a long shot. You're talking about odds, and those are some long odds.
I'm raising the possibility based on the above available evidence. The Government of Ecuador's sources surely know more than I do and have come to that conclusion.
If Assange truly supported his supposed ideals of transparency and accountability, wouldn't he be willing to stand trial and defend his name?
Trial? Like Bradley Manning's three years of pre-trial torture? Assange isn't an American Citizen nor covered by the UCMJ, so he could easily be classified as an "enemy combatant" (they have a different term now but same idea), transferred to Gitmo and left to serve his sentence until the War on Terror is "over". Why would you assume he would be treated any better than Bradley Manning or given a fair trial?
I'd say that work is virtuous, well, to be more accurate production is
That's actually a contradiction, but Americans have been trained to see it as shades of meaning. Production leads to happiness and the elimination of suffering, but work is just a means to production. If work were the virtue itself, we'd be best off working seven days a week.
Happiness is the real virtue, though clearly production and work are ways to get there. If Strong AI comes to pass as predicted, we're going to see a re-alignment of these values in just a few decades as humans won't be required to be all-purpose cogs in the machines. I'm hopeful that will enable people to pursue their dreams, which is much different than going to work, say de-boning chickens.
Much of the personal happiness we enjoy has come from our ancestors being lazy, care-free, and pleasure-seeking. That's not to say that we could be where we are without the laborers, it's a balance, but the goal should be our happiness, not our work. I recommend this lecture for anybody who has an hour for a mind-bending re-alignment of their historical perspective on the matter.
Yes, ignore the fixed costs of the vehicle development and your math works out fine. I can pull the NASA administrator's quote about SpaceX being able to deliver for 20% of NASA's cost if you insist.
We're talking about odds here, not proof, specifically "what are the odds that the prosecution against Assange represents actual justice and not prosecution for the sake of extradition?"
We know that the Cuban government labelled one of his accusers a CIA asset. They may have been wrong. We know that Assange was warned about sexual entrapment by foreign intelligence services. We know that of all the millions of women in Sweden, one of the two Assange took to bed had been previously connected to CIA by a foreign government. That could be a complete coincidence. We know that this one convinced the other one to press charges. We know that the accusations are outside of what typically constitutes a case in these matters. We know that the case was dropped and then picked up again by a politically-connected prosecutor. We know that Sweden refused to give the UK a non-extradition agreement or conduct their interviews in the UK, as they had done in previous cases.
None of this proves anything, but all of it weighs into the odds-guessing decision about whether his prosecution is political or in the interests of justice. Diplomacy a black and white game as often as the whole truth is told (i.e. never). The government of Eucador considered all of the available evidence and made the judgement that they felt the odds were significant enough that this was political that they would defy the UK and Swedish governments and take the hit to their respective relationships to grant him asylum. There's still a chance that they're wrong, but those who argue that the prosecution in Sweden is definitively morally correct are either ignoring the available evidence or operating on faith.
That's a good statistical bet, though it's not quite a million-monkeys argument since an individual [member of 'the crowd'] may have correctly identified the perps (whether or not that turns out to be the guy[s] the PD got) through proper analysis. Even if six sigmas of that collective were just high school boys wasting time after school.
We need to first let go of the perverse idea that work is itself virtuous. Especially in the US, the more productive people get, the more they're working (and the less they're making on a real-inflation-adjusted basis). For a decent chunk of time, as people became more productive, their workload decreased and their leisure increased, but that trend stopped in the early 70's.
But, heck, according to the video somebody else posted here, the property taxes I have to pay are alone more money than a noodle chef makes in a year in China and they keep going up, so the total picture isn't just as simple as "so then just work less".
I am quite upset with everyone dropping the "alleged" word and referring to them as "the bombers" instead of "the suspects."
This isn't just a legal exercise, it's an epistemological one. I keep seeing different stories about who was shot when (was it in a boat or when he was fleeing?) who was run over by whom (by a police cruiser, by his brother) who was returning fire or not, who was throwing bombs or not, when the throat injury was inflicted, who left the scene wearing a backpack or not, who stayed at the scene of an imminent bomb explosion, or not. Even the stories that are heavy on background are simultaneously flawed in analysis.
The details have been changing every day and continue to change. Hopefully the stories will converge on the truth. Frankly, I'm not going to pay close attention anymore because it's basically a waste of my time. Hopefully some journalists will do that to sell a good story and I'll read the wrap-up in a few weeks.
There may be a few people inside Boston PD who have a clear picture of the complete situation, but even that I doubt. Anybody else who claims to "know what happened" is either being fooled or is fooling themselves. It's a soup of dis- and mis-information out there right now, and we're not going to solve it on Slashdot either.
In the meantime, to declare that crowdsourcing "got it wrong" is to insist that there's an objective measure of "correct" at this point to justify such an assertion and is premature.
I consult with a client in a very similar situation. Next April, we'll be using VirtualBox to containerize the medical app into an XP VM, and it will be separated from the network. The parallel port will be passed through for printing.
The primary user will be be using either Windows 7 or Mint as the host OS (the user uses the medical software, Firefox, and LibreOffice currently). There may be a shared folder between the two, but probably not at this point. The XP VM may get its own physical LCD panel. If it's Linux we have the option of a separate keyboard and mouse, but that's undecided.
"The Law" is not an objective measure of morality. If it were incorruptable, that may be arguable. But considering the nature of the charges, how the case was prosecuted, and the fact that one of his two accusers was kicked out of Cuba for being a CIA asset, the likelihood of his prosecution representing actual justice is very small. The government of Ecuador seems to concur.
hey, everybody, look - a pissed-off government worker who can't stand that SpaceX can get the job done for 20% of the cost of NASA.
I'm old enough to remember Sally Ride talking about the plan for a moon base by 2010 and George the smarter committing to a 2017 Mars landing. The government has failed to execute.
Elon Musk is planning to retire on Mars and it looks like he will.
People with savings == the wealthiest people. The 1%.
Of course people with the most money are the wealthiest, and you can carve 1% off of the top of every income distribution. That's a tautology.
If, what you're referring to is the people who have illicitly gained that money through the work of politicians and central banks (for instance, the Fed 'prints' $80B in new notes, launders them through Goldman Sachs, which takes the initial value while 'we' get the inflated value as it runs through the fractional reserve system) then they are the ones who stand the most to lose through a non-manipulated currency.
Above some critical % of savings, you will never need to do anything productive for the economy ever again, since the amount you spend on necessities will be less then the increase in value of your savings.
Why would you limit the benefit to the economy to necessities? Certainly if somebody builds a new home, the economy benefits. Or a speedboat for that matter.
Conversely, the people who pay for things
Everybody pays for things.
will never ever be in that situation and will have to work their entire lives till death.
If you care about the old people, you want working people to be able to store their wealth in a stable system, where the value of that savings will not be wiped out over time by inflation. Even better if the value of their savings grows over time.
Unless of course you plan to double or more the population every generation. Sure nothing can go wrong with that either.
what? That's only a problem with pyramid schemes like Social Security and Medicare. If you have a plan to come up with the $160T in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years in those systems, let's hear it, but since that's $4T/yr out of a $14T total economy, there's no way the system doesn't collapse. Perhaps if AI's do all the work instead of people, but then again gene therapy might well make that into a $300T problem. I will live to see the day with a significant number of people on SS and Medicare for longer than they ever worked. The math doesn't work.
As opposed to a deflationary currency where the real productivity gains of the populace are transferred via deflation directly to the wealthiest currency holders?
Yes, people who have savings do better in that environment. Today's savers are punished. Capitalism (real, not crony) requires capital, aka savings.
Anybody who thinks savings is foolish and debt is the way to go would be opposed to a deflationary currency as debt becomes more expensive and savings becomes more rewarded. Also people who want to take a piece of the inflation obviously want inflation.
The model for "software defined networking" is that users talk mostly to a limited number of sites (Google, Facebook, Youtube, Comcast, etc.)
And while Vint lead the charge on SOPA and PIPA, I haven't seen anything from him on CISPA since last May, when he was stridently against it. Isn't CISPA up for a vote today or tomorrow? Way to change the subject...
I believe Switzerland takes this approach: mandatory military service, at the end of which you have the option to take your weapon with you. I also seem to remember they have lower gun mortality than the US does.
It's about the same as the non-city areas of the US (where a majority of people have guns). I've done research comparing Switzerland and New Hampshire and they're incredibly close.
What's more important is that Switzerland hasn't been involved in a war for over a century and a half. And they're land-locked. I wouldn't want to impose military-grade weapons on conscientious objectors, or conscript unwilling trainees, but they've demonstrated that broadly dispersing these weapons pervasively is perhaps the most stable societal arrangement that currently exists.
On top of that, they spend money on civil defense, so most homes now have emergency shelters and food stores. In the US we outspend the next 10 countries on "defense", but to show for it we just have military contractors driving Lamborghenis.
As an expression of a specific ideology, you'd expect targets that are all opposed to it...
If, for instance, it was another unhinged left-winger (they seem to be the majority of attackers), he could point to Obama and this GOP guy as both being far too right-wing.
A right wing whacko could call the GOP guy a Rhino and hate Obama on principle.
But... mailed from Memphis and targeting an unfamous Mississipi Congressman? Right, there's no chance one of his disgruntled constituents got into the car for a bit "so they will never suspect" him.
we don't even know if the particle that was predicted at this energy is a Higgs boson for sure yet (need detailed decay analysis), and if it is a Higgs boson, if it's the one that imparts mass, if any do. Both seem likely at this point, but the LHC is gearing up to confirm it in a few years.
Not that it's not worth publishing a paper that points out that if all of those turn out to be true then the inflation model needs a revisit.
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Whatever kind of prick David Cameron is, it's not a socialist one, genius.
Going just by the context of this article, it sounds like the government is trying to take control of the public wifi service industry. Which is either pure socialism or economic fascism, depending on how it's implemented.
But Cameron is the guy who's a war hawk and servant to the central bankers, right? That would exclude pure socialism from the choices above.
Right - Pandora is in control of the content; Aereo is just transmitting a signal somebody else controls over the Internet. If Pandora were re-transmitting an FM station from some market instead of choosing the songs .... wait, how did this ever go from a lame draft on somebody's blog to a Slashdot story?
I've never been particularly confident about any estimate I give having a good chance of being accurate
I tell IT folk and non-IT folk the same thing: an IT estimate is the first point in time having a non-zero probability of being true.
They both appreciate the truth of the adage. Like somebody else said, multiply by pi. That takes into account the 'problem surface' around the vector.
Yeah, a startling degree of the assumptions in American society are "because the Bible says so." It's not quite so clear without digging below the surface, because culture is generally accepted because it's extant, but Puritanism is alive and well here in "polite society".
If Assange faced rape charges in Sweden, how would that lead to extradition to the US?
The two countries have an extradition treaty.
Again, Assange hasn't been charged with anything in the US and there is no extradition request.
There's a sealed grand jury indictment in the US on charges of criminal activity under the Espionage Act that has been leaked. See the Sydney Morning Herald report on it.
Nor does Sweden have a record that would indicate they would extradite him.
They've extradited three people to the US for torture ("extraordinary rendition") in Egypt at CIA black ops sites there. See Agiza v. Sweden at the European Court of Human Rights.
You're saying there is some conspiracy that the CIA framed him for something fairly trivial in Sweden (rather than just apprehend him) to get him extradited, when the whole thing is a long shot. You're talking about odds, and those are some long odds.
I'm raising the possibility based on the above available evidence. The Government of Ecuador's sources surely know more than I do and have come to that conclusion.
If Assange truly supported his supposed ideals of transparency and accountability, wouldn't he be willing to stand trial and defend his name?
Trial? Like Bradley Manning's three years of pre-trial torture? Assange isn't an American Citizen nor covered by the UCMJ, so he could easily be classified as an "enemy combatant" (they have a different term now but same idea), transferred to Gitmo and left to serve his sentence until the War on Terror is "over". Why would you assume he would be treated any better than Bradley Manning or given a fair trial?
I'd say that work is virtuous, well, to be more accurate production is
That's actually a contradiction, but Americans have been trained to see it as shades of meaning. Production leads to happiness and the elimination of suffering, but work is just a means to production. If work were the virtue itself, we'd be best off working seven days a week.
Happiness is the real virtue, though clearly production and work are ways to get there. If Strong AI comes to pass as predicted, we're going to see a re-alignment of these values in just a few decades as humans won't be required to be all-purpose cogs in the machines. I'm hopeful that will enable people to pursue their dreams, which is much different than going to work, say de-boning chickens.
Much of the personal happiness we enjoy has come from our ancestors being lazy, care-free, and pleasure-seeking. That's not to say that we could be where we are without the laborers, it's a balance, but the goal should be our happiness, not our work. I recommend this lecture for anybody who has an hour for a mind-bending re-alignment of their historical perspective on the matter.
Yes, ignore the fixed costs of the vehicle development and your math works out fine. I can pull the NASA administrator's quote about SpaceX being able to deliver for 20% of NASA's cost if you insist.
It's all proof!
We're talking about odds here, not proof, specifically "what are the odds that the prosecution against Assange represents actual justice and not prosecution for the sake of extradition?"
We know that the Cuban government labelled one of his accusers a CIA asset. They may have been wrong. We know that Assange was warned about sexual entrapment by foreign intelligence services. We know that of all the millions of women in Sweden, one of the two Assange took to bed had been previously connected to CIA by a foreign government. That could be a complete coincidence. We know that this one convinced the other one to press charges. We know that the accusations are outside of what typically constitutes a case in these matters. We know that the case was dropped and then picked up again by a politically-connected prosecutor. We know that Sweden refused to give the UK a non-extradition agreement or conduct their interviews in the UK, as they had done in previous cases.
None of this proves anything, but all of it weighs into the odds-guessing decision about whether his prosecution is political or in the interests of justice. Diplomacy a black and white game as often as the whole truth is told (i.e. never). The government of Eucador considered all of the available evidence and made the judgement that they felt the odds were significant enough that this was political that they would defy the UK and Swedish governments and take the hit to their respective relationships to grant him asylum. There's still a chance that they're wrong, but those who argue that the prosecution in Sweden is definitively morally correct are either ignoring the available evidence or operating on faith.
That's a good statistical bet, though it's not quite a million-monkeys argument since an individual [member of 'the crowd'] may have correctly identified the perps (whether or not that turns out to be the guy[s] the PD got) through proper analysis. Even if six sigmas of that collective were just high school boys wasting time after school.
We need to first let go of the perverse idea that work is itself virtuous. Especially in the US, the more productive people get, the more they're working (and the less they're making on a real-inflation-adjusted basis). For a decent chunk of time, as people became more productive, their workload decreased and their leisure increased, but that trend stopped in the early 70's.
But, heck, according to the video somebody else posted here, the property taxes I have to pay are alone more money than a noodle chef makes in a year in China and they keep going up, so the total picture isn't just as simple as "so then just work less".
I am quite upset with everyone dropping the "alleged" word and referring to them as "the bombers" instead of "the suspects."
This isn't just a legal exercise, it's an epistemological one. I keep seeing different stories about who was shot when (was it in a boat or when he was fleeing?) who was run over by whom (by a police cruiser, by his brother) who was returning fire or not, who was throwing bombs or not, when the throat injury was inflicted, who left the scene wearing a backpack or not, who stayed at the scene of an imminent bomb explosion, or not. Even the stories that are heavy on background are simultaneously flawed in analysis.
The details have been changing every day and continue to change. Hopefully the stories will converge on the truth. Frankly, I'm not going to pay close attention anymore because it's basically a waste of my time. Hopefully some journalists will do that to sell a good story and I'll read the wrap-up in a few weeks.
There may be a few people inside Boston PD who have a clear picture of the complete situation, but even that I doubt. Anybody else who claims to "know what happened" is either being fooled or is fooling themselves. It's a soup of dis- and mis-information out there right now, and we're not going to solve it on Slashdot either.
In the meantime, to declare that crowdsourcing "got it wrong" is to insist that there's an objective measure of "correct" at this point to justify such an assertion and is premature.
I consult with a client in a very similar situation. Next April, we'll be using VirtualBox to containerize the medical app into an XP VM, and it will be separated from the network. The parallel port will be passed through for printing.
The primary user will be be using either Windows 7 or Mint as the host OS (the user uses the medical software, Firefox, and LibreOffice currently). There may be a shared folder between the two, but probably not at this point. The XP VM may get its own physical LCD panel. If it's Linux we have the option of a separate keyboard and mouse, but that's undecided.
"The Law" is not an objective measure of morality. If it were incorruptable, that may be arguable. But considering the nature of the charges, how the case was prosecuted, and the fact that one of his two accusers was kicked out of Cuba for being a CIA asset, the likelihood of his prosecution representing actual justice is very small. The government of Ecuador seems to concur.
Have a read here:
http://www.torservers.net/donate.html
And yet there are those who abandon reason and all available data and conclude that this must be by mistake.
you'd do your sister with a condom?
I question your use of the conditional tense here.
I thought this novelty peaked years ago.
Addicting drug + scat fetish + Internet + high-profit margins - don't get caught selling it short.
hey, everybody, look - a pissed-off government worker who can't stand that SpaceX can get the job done for 20% of the cost of NASA.
I'm old enough to remember Sally Ride talking about the plan for a moon base by 2010 and George the smarter committing to a 2017 Mars landing. The government has failed to execute.
Elon Musk is planning to retire on Mars and it looks like he will.
People with savings == the wealthiest people. The 1%.
Of course people with the most money are the wealthiest, and you can carve 1% off of the top of every income distribution. That's a tautology.
If, what you're referring to is the people who have illicitly gained that money through the work of politicians and central banks (for instance, the Fed 'prints' $80B in new notes, launders them through Goldman Sachs, which takes the initial value while 'we' get the inflated value as it runs through the fractional reserve system) then they are the ones who stand the most to lose through a non-manipulated currency.
Above some critical % of savings, you will never need to do anything productive for the economy ever again, since the amount you spend on necessities will be less then the increase in value of your savings.
Why would you limit the benefit to the economy to necessities? Certainly if somebody builds a new home, the economy benefits. Or a speedboat for that matter.
Conversely, the people who pay for things
Everybody pays for things.
will never ever be in that situation and will have to work their entire lives till death.
If you care about the old people, you want working people to be able to store their wealth in a stable system, where the value of that savings will not be wiped out over time by inflation. Even better if the value of their savings grows over time.
Unless of course you plan to double or more the population every generation. Sure nothing can go wrong with that either.
what? That's only a problem with pyramid schemes like Social Security and Medicare. If you have a plan to come up with the $160T in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years in those systems, let's hear it, but since that's $4T/yr out of a $14T total economy, there's no way the system doesn't collapse. Perhaps if AI's do all the work instead of people, but then again gene therapy might well make that into a $300T problem. I will live to see the day with a significant number of people on SS and Medicare for longer than they ever worked. The math doesn't work.
As opposed to a deflationary currency where the real productivity gains of the populace are transferred via deflation directly to the wealthiest currency holders?
Yes, people who have savings do better in that environment. Today's savers are punished. Capitalism (real, not crony) requires capital, aka savings.
Anybody who thinks savings is foolish and debt is the way to go would be opposed to a deflationary currency as debt becomes more expensive and savings becomes more rewarded. Also people who want to take a piece of the inflation obviously want inflation.
The model for "software defined networking" is that users talk mostly to a limited number of sites (Google, Facebook, Youtube, Comcast, etc.)
And while Vint lead the charge on SOPA and PIPA, I haven't seen anything from him on CISPA since last May, when he was stridently against it. Isn't CISPA up for a vote today or tomorrow? Way to change the subject...
I believe Switzerland takes this approach: mandatory military service, at the end of which you have the option to take your weapon with you. I also seem to remember they have lower gun mortality than the US does.
It's about the same as the non-city areas of the US (where a majority of people have guns). I've done research comparing Switzerland and New Hampshire and they're incredibly close.
What's more important is that Switzerland hasn't been involved in a war for over a century and a half. And they're land-locked. I wouldn't want to impose military-grade weapons on conscientious objectors, or conscript unwilling trainees, but they've demonstrated that broadly dispersing these weapons pervasively is perhaps the most stable societal arrangement that currently exists.
On top of that, they spend money on civil defense, so most homes now have emergency shelters and food stores. In the US we outspend the next 10 countries on "defense", but to show for it we just have military contractors driving Lamborghenis.
You can't ban gunpowder. It's too easy to make.
You can't ban marijuana, it's too easy to grow. Oh, right, there's no marijuana to be found in the USA, nm. Gentlemen, start your ban-hammers.
As an expression of a specific ideology, you'd expect targets that are all opposed to it...
If, for instance, it was another unhinged left-winger (they seem to be the majority of attackers), he could point to Obama and this GOP guy as both being far too right-wing.
A right wing whacko could call the GOP guy a Rhino and hate Obama on principle.
But ... mailed from Memphis and targeting an unfamous Mississipi Congressman? Right, there's no chance one of his disgruntled constituents got into the car for a bit "so they will never suspect" him.
we don't even know if the particle that was predicted at this energy is a Higgs boson for sure yet (need detailed decay analysis), and if it is a Higgs boson, if it's the one that imparts mass, if any do. Both seem likely at this point, but the LHC is gearing up to confirm it in a few years.
Not that it's not worth publishing a paper that points out that if all of those turn out to be true then the inflation model needs a revisit.