They're only being discarded because they've started to fail.
This is surprising - they must pay very low electric rates. I've consolidated a bunch of 300GB drives onto a pair of 2TB drives and the power pay-back is on the order of a year.
when wiping really wasn't a surefire way to destroy data.
It still isn't. Drive manufacturers won't tell you if their drives are certified to correctly implement ATA Secure Erase. Without it, all your re-allocated sectors still have the raw data.
How's the power cost? Are these old inventory or are drive manufacturers charging a premium for SATA (when it should be the cheaper option by this point)?
None of the usual explanations I've heard make much sense under careful examination.
Sony needs to keep things moving along so people will buy the latest and greatest and keep their revenue cycle going. The PS4 will do that for them.
But, the PS3 was going gangbusters. No piracy scene worth worrying about, good-enough graphics for most users, and a sales plateau due to average gamers having a decent stash of games by this point.
By killing the OtherOS feature which the geeks liked, they initiated the inevitable result of the PS3 getting completely rooted. This became sufficient justification inside Sony to get the PS4 project green-lighted, and to get the big games developers interested in re-writing for a 'more secure' platform.
We have no actual depth perception past that, we're just inventing it from the size of objects and their location on the ground.
Yep, and only experience teaches you how to judge that.
One time I was up on a glacier, and I told the guide I'd like to hike over to a nearby waterfall. It was a nice 200' -ish waterfall and only about a quarter mile away.
He corrected me that it was a 700' waterfall and almost two miles away. There was nothing between me and the waterfall except a white ice field and I was completely unable to judge the distance with my eyes. After I thought about it, I did decide that it didn't make enough noise for where I expected it was. But then again, I have little basis for judging sound reflections in that kind of environment.
It should be pretty obvious to anyone that Apple doesn't like competitors making phones that look like iPhones.
So, why are they suing them on utility patents instead of design patents or trade-dress? Or do you mean Apple is just bitter so they're abusing the patent system?
He was supposed to be able to run incredibly fast, but it always took him forever to get anywhere. It was maddening!
It definately wierd that people thought that slow-motion video of a man running at normal speed looked faster then a person running at normal speed. You're sense of time must have alot of variability, based on weather you're expecting something to be true or not. It's a cheap special affect, anyway, so I guess the studio had nothing to loose.
Wow, I was too young at the time to remember, but seeing it now I wonder if most adults at the time thought, "this show is mostly people running and jumping in slow motion with some mid-grade funk music."
I was also too young to ask, "Why did he kick this explosive behind the dam where it could impart more force to the water retention structure?" He should have kicked it *away* from the dam.
Nowhere in the article did it say that police had been observed doing this or that there was any evidence that any such thing had actually happened.
You're right, it's not certain that Michigan police have been using that particular device. They may not be hiding anything at all with their half-million dollar FOIA fee request.
We do know, however, that police are using that data, through some means, to investigate and convict.
Generally people back then lived just as long as we do if you made it past puberty. It's not like lots of people died at around 25 just because that was the average. The curve is weighted heavily at both ends, so you either died before puberty or died at 70+.
Granted, this is more current thinking. It was assumed, within the past couple decades, that the average life expectancy was (current value - some factor for antibiotics/medical care).
That modern men have weak immune systems and cardiovascular disease and cancer brought about by poor diet is only recently accepted (and even at that, not by many).
That's a heck of a boyfriend - one who will go along with being known as a dumb louse who knocked up a teenager, for a whole school year so that the girl can write a paper. Presumably he was well-rewarded (and apparently not such a dumb louse).
So, I guess this means they've given up on a using a rotating space ship for the trip to Mars? That's disappointing, it would make growing food easier and keep the people healthier.
Landing people on Mars as a first priority seems silly. We should build a rotating Mars space station here in an appropriate orbit, have Space X push it to Mars, then, once we have a space station in orbit of Mars, start attempting landings. Maybe the first crews never go down to the planet, they just do science from LMO. Then, send landers/ascenders to Mars as needed to keep the traffic going up and down. Preferably mostly down, so they can build a rocket facility on Mars before the end of the century.
And, before we send one of those rotating space stations to Mars, we should have one here, for practice. Maybe with real commercial lift about to become a reality it'll turn out that Branson gets one built before NASA.
Crawl, walk, run, in that order. I'm not all that eager to send a bunch of sickened guys in a tin can so they can plant a flag on Mars.
So... They get a 30% larger network, but a 43% larger number of subscribers.
Gosh, far be it from me to defend AT&T, but they're having a government problem, so I guess I have to.
It'll take AT&T 5 years to site new towers because the FCC bureaucracy makes it take that long. That's the only reason they need to buy T-Mobile. If it took 2 months to permit a new tower, this wouldn't be an issue. The FCC is directly causing a reduction in the competitiveness of the market which will increase everybody's prices.
So, by owning T-Mobile they'll have all the towers they need to build out their network effectively. Which they still won't do (see, I couldn't just leave it be).
between the cops' ability to subpoena cell phone tower records and this? just a bit more precision? they've been keeping track of this for decades
No subpoena required. Did you see the article here a few days ago about Michigan sucking all the data off of phones during routine traffic stops?
Sure, it's patently illegal under the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution, but then again so are suspicionless checkpoints and yet we have Michigan v. Sitz.
Michigan again - no wonder everybody is moving out.
Could you elaborate on the "1and1 terror*? I've been using them for 8 years and have been very happy, so I would be interested to know if there is something I have to worry about.
They effectively shut down my business for 4 days c. 2006 when my co-lo'ed server needed a hardware reboot (the serial console got out of sync with the server some how). That's how long it took to get past their call center in the Philippines to a tech in the data center in White Plains, NY. In retrospect I should have just driven there and knocked on the door.
In the meantime nobody with a clue would help me or even talk to me (though the "sir, sir, please understand sir" morons at the call center would talk to me forever). This is after having spent thousands with them. I tried calling their corporate number in PA and got a Verizon cell phone voicemail box.
At the time there was a complaints e-mail address that got straight through to corporate, which I found on a webhosting forum. A complete log of events to there at least got me a call back from the data center, but not before the tech booted the machine into single user mode and screwed things up with an inappropriate fsck.
At that point I got the most recent data off the machine and let them know them they'd lost my business. They continued to bill me anyway and sent the account to collections when I (obviously) didn't pay it (which I obviously still didn't pay). I've been in business for seven years and have only ever not paid two bills in full. This was one.
I had previously praised their product (here even). But what I learned from the experience is that you don't really know if a company is good or not until you have a problem. When starting with a new company, it's a good idea to start slow, and then call them at some point to see how they handle problems before you invest time or money with them significantly.
I was helping a friend set up Google Apps that other day, and he needed a domain to go with it. It made so much sense to just register the domain with Google, until we saw they were just reselling for GoDaddy. So we spent an extra hour setting up a DynDNS account and pointing all the records over there. A real shame that they only have exclusive integration with GoDaddy.
I was curious, so I looked up YouTube in WHOIS. They use MarkMonitor as their registrar. Not surprising - you pay a whole bunch for registrations and the registrar doesn't roll over at random DMCA requests.
But, here's what was in the WHOIS response, along with the other data. WnTF did this start happening?
Server Name: YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM
IP Address: 69.41.185.205
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net/
Server Name: YOUTUBE.COM.ZEN.GET.ONE.MILLION.DOLLARS.AT.WWW.UNIMUNDI.COM
IP Address: 209.126.190.71
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/
No, but sometimes they are warnings. The trouble is when groups like governments take warnings like Orwell's and read it like an instruction manual. Does that make it a self-fulfilling prophecy? Probably not, but it may increase the speed of which such dystopias are adopted. Hopefully it further increased the rate at which people were prepared for it.
I wondered if Apple had a leg up with the labels due to their senior status in the market, but TFA says, "Apple has yet to sign any new licenses for the service and major music labels are hoping to secure deals before the service is launched, three of the sources said."
So, Amazon, Google, and Apple are on roughly equal footing as of now. Well, perhaps Amazon has a bit more negotiating power.
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They're only being discarded because they've started to fail.
This is surprising - they must pay very low electric rates. I've consolidated a bunch of 300GB drives onto a pair of 2TB drives and the power pay-back is on the order of a year.
when wiping really wasn't a surefire way to destroy data.
It still isn't. Drive manufacturers won't tell you if their drives are certified to correctly implement ATA Secure Erase. Without it, all your re-allocated sectors still have the raw data.
I use block-level encryption since learning this.
about half the cost of what a SATA will cost
How's the power cost? Are these old inventory or are drive manufacturers charging a premium for SATA (when it should be the cheaper option by this point)?
None of the usual explanations I've heard make much sense under careful examination.
Sony needs to keep things moving along so people will buy the latest and greatest and keep their revenue cycle going. The PS4 will do that for them.
But, the PS3 was going gangbusters. No piracy scene worth worrying about, good-enough graphics for most users, and a sales plateau due to average gamers having a decent stash of games by this point.
By killing the OtherOS feature which the geeks liked, they initiated the inevitable result of the PS3 getting completely rooted. This became sufficient justification inside Sony to get the PS4 project green-lighted, and to get the big games developers interested in re-writing for a 'more secure' platform.
We have no actual depth perception past that, we're just inventing it from the size of objects and their location on the ground.
Yep, and only experience teaches you how to judge that.
One time I was up on a glacier, and I told the guide I'd like to hike over to a nearby waterfall. It was a nice 200' -ish waterfall and only about a quarter mile away.
He corrected me that it was a 700' waterfall and almost two miles away. There was nothing between me and the waterfall except a white ice field and I was completely unable to judge the distance with my eyes. After I thought about it, I did decide that it didn't make enough noise for where I expected it was. But then again, I have little basis for judging sound reflections in that kind of environment.
How much community is there when "volunteers from around the world" adds up to "dozens".
Those were the people doing the downloading. There were thousands more who were telling Google not to be stupid.
It should be pretty obvious to anyone that Apple doesn't like competitors making phones that look like iPhones.
So, why are they suing them on utility patents instead of design patents or trade-dress? Or do you mean Apple is just bitter so they're abusing the patent system?
He was supposed to be able to run incredibly fast, but it always took him forever to get anywhere. It was maddening!
It definately wierd that people thought that slow-motion video of a man running at normal speed looked faster then a person running at normal speed. You're sense of time must have alot of variability, based on weather you're expecting something to be true or not. It's a cheap special affect, anyway, so I guess the studio had nothing to loose.
Wow, I was too young at the time to remember, but seeing it now I wonder if most adults at the time thought, "this show is mostly people running and jumping in slow motion with some mid-grade funk music."
I was also too young to ask, "Why did he kick this explosive behind the dam where it could impart more force to the water retention structure?" He should have kicked it *away* from the dam.
Wouldn't the features described be more suited to a Chrome plugin (would that be feasible?) rather than a completely new browser?
You sound like an engineer.
Nowhere in the article did it say that police had been observed doing this or that there was any evidence that any such thing had actually happened.
You're right, it's not certain that Michigan police have been using that particular device. They may not be hiding anything at all with their half-million dollar FOIA fee request.
We do know, however, that police are using that data, through some means, to investigate and convict.
Generally people back then lived just as long as we do if you made it past puberty. It's not like lots of people died at around 25 just because that was the average. The curve is weighted heavily at both ends, so you either died before puberty or died at 70+.
Granted, this is more current thinking. It was assumed, within the past couple decades, that the average life expectancy was (current value - some factor for antibiotics/medical care).
That modern men have weak immune systems and cardiovascular disease and cancer brought about by poor diet is only recently accepted (and even at that, not by many).
That's a heck of a boyfriend - one who will go along with being known as a dumb louse who knocked up a teenager, for a whole school year so that the girl can write a paper. Presumably he was well-rewarded (and apparently not such a dumb louse).
Honestly, I don't think the environmentalists will be happy until we're back to living in caves and dying at around age 25 from famine.
I should send you one of my bumpers stickers.
So, I guess this means they've given up on a using a rotating space ship for the trip to Mars? That's disappointing, it would make growing food easier and keep the people healthier.
Landing people on Mars as a first priority seems silly. We should build a rotating Mars space station here in an appropriate orbit, have Space X push it to Mars, then, once we have a space station in orbit of Mars, start attempting landings. Maybe the first crews never go down to the planet, they just do science from LMO. Then, send landers/ascenders to Mars as needed to keep the traffic going up and down. Preferably mostly down, so they can build a rocket facility on Mars before the end of the century.
And, before we send one of those rotating space stations to Mars, we should have one here, for practice. Maybe with real commercial lift about to become a reality it'll turn out that Branson gets one built before NASA.
Crawl, walk, run, in that order. I'm not all that eager to send a bunch of sickened guys in a tin can so they can plant a flag on Mars.
and the added multipath problems caused by mostly-concrete high-rise structures make things worse
I thought W-CDMA handled multipath effectively?
So... They get a 30% larger network, but a 43% larger number of subscribers.
Gosh, far be it from me to defend AT&T, but they're having a government problem, so I guess I have to.
It'll take AT&T 5 years to site new towers because the FCC bureaucracy makes it take that long. That's the only reason they need to buy T-Mobile. If it took 2 months to permit a new tower, this wouldn't be an issue. The FCC is directly causing a reduction in the competitiveness of the market which will increase everybody's prices.
So, by owning T-Mobile they'll have all the towers they need to build out their network effectively. Which they still won't do (see, I couldn't just leave it be).
between the cops' ability to subpoena cell phone tower records and this? just a bit more precision? they've been keeping track of this for decades
No subpoena required. Did you see the article here a few days ago about Michigan sucking all the data off of phones during routine traffic stops?
Sure, it's patently illegal under the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution, but then again so are suspicionless checkpoints and yet we have Michigan v. Sitz.
Michigan again - no wonder everybody is moving out.
So Al Jazeera doesn't have any opinion shows?
They might, but what I've seen during LinkTV's coverage period has just been news.
Below-cost registrars seem to have decided it'll cost them less to hose their customers than to deal with complainants.
Could you elaborate on the "1and1 terror*? I've been using them for 8 years and have been very happy, so I would be interested to know if there is something I have to worry about.
They effectively shut down my business for 4 days c. 2006 when my co-lo'ed server needed a hardware reboot (the serial console got out of sync with the server some how). That's how long it took to get past their call center in the Philippines to a tech in the data center in White Plains, NY. In retrospect I should have just driven there and knocked on the door.
In the meantime nobody with a clue would help me or even talk to me (though the "sir, sir, please understand sir" morons at the call center would talk to me forever). This is after having spent thousands with them. I tried calling their corporate number in PA and got a Verizon cell phone voicemail box.
At the time there was a complaints e-mail address that got straight through to corporate, which I found on a webhosting forum. A complete log of events to there at least got me a call back from the data center, but not before the tech booted the machine into single user mode and screwed things up with an inappropriate fsck.
At that point I got the most recent data off the machine and let them know them they'd lost my business. They continued to bill me anyway and sent the account to collections when I (obviously) didn't pay it (which I obviously still didn't pay). I've been in business for seven years and have only ever not paid two bills in full. This was one.
I had previously praised their product (here even). But what I learned from the experience is that you don't really know if a company is good or not until you have a problem. When starting with a new company, it's a good idea to start slow, and then call them at some point to see how they handle problems before you invest time or money with them significantly.
I was helping a friend set up Google Apps that other day, and he needed a domain to go with it. It made so much sense to just register the domain with Google, until we saw they were just reselling for GoDaddy. So we spent an extra hour setting up a DynDNS account and pointing all the records over there. A real shame that they only have exclusive integration with GoDaddy.
I was curious, so I looked up YouTube in WHOIS. They use MarkMonitor as their registrar. Not surprising - you pay a whole bunch for registrations and the registrar doesn't roll over at random DMCA requests.
But, here's what was in the WHOIS response, along with the other data. WnTF did this start happening?
How about this - I'll give them credit when they plead guilty to the count of purgery in a court of law.
And pay damages. Actual, loss of reputation, and punitive.
Science Fiction is Fiction not a Prophecy.
No, but sometimes they are warnings. The trouble is when groups like governments take warnings like Orwell's and read it like an instruction manual. Does that make it a self-fulfilling prophecy? Probably not, but it may increase the speed of which such dystopias are adopted. Hopefully it further increased the rate at which people were prepared for it.
I wondered if Apple had a leg up with the labels due to their senior status in the market, but TFA says, "Apple has yet to sign any new licenses for the service and major music labels are hoping to secure deals before the service is launched, three of the sources said."
So, Amazon, Google, and Apple are on roughly equal footing as of now. Well, perhaps Amazon has a bit more negotiating power.