So do some logitech, but you do realize that flash always asks for permission before allowing a flash app to touch your webcam, right? I wouldn't be surprised if it was buggy enough to get around, and some subset of people might have clicked 'always allow' but i suspect it's a subset that's vanishingly small.
It's good that it asks. I know some people who have been on webinars and poked around the WebEx client to find other participants sitting at home, in their bras, at the computer (a polite PM fixed that...).
Why this happened, I'm not sure. Maybe they checked the box at some point in the past.
>I hope the parents of the affected kids get a million bucks apiece from the district, and somebody in the school's administration goes to prison.
It is difficult for me to fault the taxpayers of the district for the administrator's action, or to see this as something that can be properly offset by money. As for the prison term, though -- completely agreed
Why should the taxpayers pay this? Garnish the administrators' wages for the rest of their lives if that's the appropriate award. Moral people don't do things like this, so maybe the constant reminder will help.
The issue isn't people sharing their information, its people like these guys who are just being ass holes.
That's exactly right. The only value of any security measure is to increase the costs for the bad guys (whomever that is from your perspective) to do you harm.
This service decreases the costs of finding people to harm. Without this service, the costs are much higher, so this service potentially does real harm. Heck, an unlocked house without this service is probably more secure than a locked house with this service - that speaks to the level of harm.
Maybe when somebody posts the home addresses of those involved they'll get it.
Oh course you have a choice, you can NOT DRIVE for one. You could use alternative transportation, you could use a car that does not use oil. Many people bike, some people use electric cars, some people use horses.
Not around here. One cannot be economically productive without an automobile to even eek out a subsistence level of living, due to high tax rates. Roads with no alternatives are closed to bikes, horses and pedestrians. No non-oil vehicles (currently manufactured) can handle the roads around here (though I hope that changes). The Right to Travel is recognized as an essential human right.
They absolutely have a choice. They can replace their representatives. That is the beauty of a Republic.
So, somebody who has voted and lost every time isn't being oppressed because some of their neighbors are happy with the outcome? This is the "tyranny of the majority" fallacy.
The problem that a complaint that "Government" is causing something is that in a Democracy or Republic the entire Government is chosen by the people.
That's the theory, but once corruption is introduced into the system the social contract falls apart. Just to cite a recent example, see how well the Kosovars did in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. If these systems were sufficient alone there wouldn't be revolutions.
No matter how much hand waiving about contrivances and institutions are made, if somebody is being forced to do something against his will, and it's not to prevent harm to others, he's being oppressed. But we have political systems founded on the principle of monopoly-on-violence, so this isn't a surprise, even if it's unfortunate.
We CHOOSE to purchase oil because it is politically and/or economically cheaper than other options. Again I fail to see how "we made a choice" can turn into "we are being oppressed."
I cannot choose to purchase fuel, even pumped out of the ground in the US, without paying over fifty cents to the government for every gallon of fuel I put in my tank. To fill our minivan requires an $11 payment to the State. That's about a 20% tax.
In the UK, they're paying about ten times as much tax as we do in the US. They have no choice either, their government will use violence against any who dare oppose the dictate, same as here.
They own the rights of way and won't allow small providers on the infrastructure.
Get them out of the monopoly granting business, get them out of the mega-corporation business, and get them out of the eminent domain business, and the market would actually solve this.
I'm not holding my breath. They'll pile more government on top of bad government to arrive at some crappy scheme everybody hates.
Star Trek? Bussard Ramjets were popularized by Larry Niven [larryniven.org].
Yes, this thread started on deflector dishes, a 'trek tech. Then Bussard Collectors were added in a reply, also a 'trek tech. They're not funneling the hydrogen at speed into a fusion reactor, merely collecting it, but they do use it to mitigate the interstellar gas pressures that are the subject of TFA.
If you really want to split hairs, Tau Zero pre-dates the Niven works by a few years.
Or maybe they're actually not prepared for a cyberattack?
Or maybe it's not possible for the government to defend against a well-planned cyberattack without also giving the government the ability to shut off arbitrary Internet connections? And that would be bad, m'kay?
We have good network operators. They can handle this.
If the government really wants to help, why don't I ever hear any PSA's about turning on your software updates and not being conned by 'Click here to see kittens and get money' spam? Why don't they pay Microsoft to develop a yum/apt-like update mechanism for their OS (that 3rd parties can access)? The other articles said 80% of attacks last year are from people using old versions of Acrobat - that's a solved problem in computing.
'reserves' of nuclear waste could power reactors for something like 500 years or 1000 years without mining any 'new' uranium.
Two quick points:
1) If you figure on India and China coming into the 1st world and power usage rates continuing up, it's "only" a century's worth of total power consumption of the world.
2) We have to do this anyway. We can't leave 300,000 year waste around. This process converts it into 300 year waste. Not great, but good enough for geological storage.
How can I get a job taking items from the 80's ST:TNG technical manual, figuring out why they're there, and then publishing a press release stating X is impossible because of it?
I usually avoid them because I know they dont make their own stuff
That's ostensibly an advantage. Every fab turns out some turkeys and bad lots. If Kingston has good QA they can find and re-sell the best and reject the rest. If.
As a final parting shot, I have the most experience with Debian and Ubuntu system, so I would have preferred that they choose apt and.debs over yum and.rpms, but certainly more important than the package manager is the hope that they'll continue to maintain a free and open system.
Agreed. I have more experience on the RPM side, but I owned an n810 for about a year and found apt to be fine, it didn't really matter. The bad old days of dpkg bitching about circular dependencies didn't revisit during my time on maemo.
I suspect what won them over is that Fedora pushes on the new technology front much harder than debian, and something like MeeGo can't be a couple years behind. They could have rebased on Ubuntu, but then they'd both be in new territory.
I know that's probably a hopeless request without some sort of basis in this field, but can someone give the "particle physics for dummies" equivalent here?
No, probably not, but if you're interested, I heartily recommended Warped Passages by Lisa Randall. She spends first 80 or so pages reviewing physics in a manner accessible to those of us who took it in high school but need a refresher/update. But it does take those 80 or so pages under your belt so you can understand the rest of her book. Hence my apprehension that a comment here could suffice.
It's a couple years old, so some of the information is probably dated by recent Tevatron and LHC results (IIRC some of the theories reviewed in the book were looking for Higgs to be at 600 GeV?) but the foundation allows current news to make sense.
Or just wait a couple years, it'll all be figured out by then (if the Euro doesn't collapse and send Europe into chaos...). Understanding the multitude of theories used to shape the search isn't strictly necessary if it's found and plunked into the Standard Model.
Why deliver voice packets via best-effort TCP/IP delivery, when you can reserve guaranteed bandwidth for voice on your own network? As a full-time user of VoIP, I can tell you that it's got a long way to go
They control the air network end-to-end. There's no reason they can't do QoS on IP. Reserving a full channel with lots of dead air is just a recipe for higher costs.
Remember, AT&T has been all VoIP for a decade - but they own their network so it works. Your experience over the public Internet is likely to be different.
If it's all packets, then they can't justify why an SMS message would cost so much.
SMS travels in network control packets that get sent regardless of whether there's an SMS message in them or not.
So, a current cost of $0 doesn't stop them from charging 20 cents now, why would it in the future? They could only allow signed comms on their network and AppStore the developers into submission.
By the time I get through the first few petabytes of my collection, I can go back to the beginning and it's like I've never seen it before.
Ain't alzheimer's grand?
Hey, c'mon, I'm trying to start a rumor here.
the light is hard-wired into the camera's power supply
Good, this is the only acceptable design. Thanks for checking.
So do some logitech, but you do realize that flash always asks for permission before allowing a flash app to touch your webcam, right?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was buggy enough to get around, and some subset of people might have clicked 'always allow' but i suspect it's a subset that's vanishingly small.
It's good that it asks. I know some people who have been on webinars and poked around the WebEx client to find other participants sitting at home, in their bras, at the computer (a polite PM fixed that...).
Why this happened, I'm not sure. Maybe they checked the box at some point in the past.
they'll probably get $0.50 each per month for the rest of their lives
A million dollars is more like $1500/mo given average life expectancy.
Oh, you meant after lawyers fees. ;)
*Unless you have remote access to my webcams.
Yeah, you know those porn sites that require Flash? Flash has access to your webcam. Those sites have an 'amateurs' section.
Don't ever buy a webcam without a hardware LED 'active' light. Apple and ASUS at least have this.
>I hope the parents of the affected kids get a million bucks apiece from the district, and somebody in the school's administration goes to prison.
It is difficult for me to fault the taxpayers of the district for the administrator's action, or to see this as something that can be properly offset by money. As for the prison term, though -- completely agreed
Why should the taxpayers pay this? Garnish the administrators' wages for the rest of their lives if that's the appropriate award. Moral people don't do things like this, so maybe the constant reminder will help.
The issue isn't people sharing their information, its people like these guys who are just being ass holes.
That's exactly right. The only value of any security measure is to increase the costs for the bad guys (whomever that is from your perspective) to do you harm.
This service decreases the costs of finding people to harm. Without this service, the costs are much higher, so this service potentially does real harm. Heck, an unlocked house without this service is probably more secure than a locked house with this service - that speaks to the level of harm.
Maybe when somebody posts the home addresses of those involved they'll get it.
Oh course you have a choice, you can NOT DRIVE for one. You could use alternative transportation, you could use a car that does not use oil. Many people bike, some people use electric cars, some people use horses.
Not around here. One cannot be economically productive without an automobile to even eek out a subsistence level of living, due to high tax rates. Roads with no alternatives are closed to bikes, horses and pedestrians. No non-oil vehicles (currently manufactured) can handle the roads around here (though I hope that changes). The Right to Travel is recognized as an essential human right.
They absolutely have a choice. They can replace their representatives. That is the beauty of a Republic.
So, somebody who has voted and lost every time isn't being oppressed because some of their neighbors are happy with the outcome? This is the "tyranny of the majority" fallacy.
The problem that a complaint that "Government" is causing something is that in a Democracy or Republic the entire Government is chosen by the people.
That's the theory, but once corruption is introduced into the system the social contract falls apart. Just to cite a recent example, see how well the Kosovars did in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. If these systems were sufficient alone there wouldn't be revolutions.
No matter how much hand waiving about contrivances and institutions are made, if somebody is being forced to do something against his will, and it's not to prevent harm to others, he's being oppressed. But we have political systems founded on the principle of monopoly-on-violence, so this isn't a surprise, even if it's unfortunate.
We CHOOSE to purchase oil because it is politically and/or economically cheaper than other options. Again I fail to see how "we made a choice" can turn into "we are being oppressed."
I cannot choose to purchase fuel, even pumped out of the ground in the US, without paying over fifty cents to the government for every gallon of fuel I put in my tank. To fill our minivan requires an $11 payment to the State. That's about a 20% tax.
In the UK, they're paying about ten times as much tax as we do in the US. They have no choice either, their government will use violence against any who dare oppose the dictate, same as here.
no one wants to serve small towns.
Actually, we do, but government is in the way.
They own the rights of way and won't allow small providers on the infrastructure.
Get them out of the monopoly granting business, get them out of the mega-corporation business, and get them out of the eminent domain business, and the market would actually solve this.
I'm not holding my breath. They'll pile more government on top of bad government to arrive at some crappy scheme everybody hates.
Star Trek? Bussard Ramjets were popularized by Larry Niven [larryniven.org].
Yes, this thread started on deflector dishes, a 'trek tech. Then Bussard Collectors were added in a reply, also a 'trek tech. They're not funneling the hydrogen at speed into a fusion reactor, merely collecting it, but they do use it to mitigate the interstellar gas pressures that are the subject of TFA.
If you really want to split hairs, Tau Zero pre-dates the Niven works by a few years.
Or maybe they're actually not prepared for a cyberattack?
Or maybe it's not possible for the government to defend against a well-planned cyberattack without also giving the government the ability to shut off arbitrary Internet connections? And that would be bad, m'kay?
We have good network operators. They can handle this.
If the government really wants to help, why don't I ever hear any PSA's about turning on your software updates and not being conned by 'Click here to see kittens and get money' spam? Why don't they pay Microsoft to develop a yum/apt-like update mechanism for their OS (that 3rd parties can access)? The other articles said 80% of attacks last year are from people using old versions of Acrobat - that's a solved problem in computing.
'reserves' of nuclear waste could power reactors for something like 500 years or 1000 years without mining any 'new' uranium.
Two quick points:
1) If you figure on India and China coming into the 1st world and power usage rates continuing up, it's "only" a century's worth of total power consumption of the world.
2) We have to do this anyway. We can't leave 300,000 year waste around. This process converts it into 300 year waste. Not great, but good enough for geological storage.
Not to mention the Bussard Collectors.
How can I get a job taking items from the 80's ST:TNG technical manual, figuring out why they're there, and then publishing a press release stating X is impossible because of it?
Americans have always been incredibly spoiled by their gas prices
Amazing that "less oppressed" has been equated to "spoiled" now. Thank you sir, may I have another!?
your gas price IS quite reasonable ... or about than 7.5 dollar/gallon
You're not paying $7.50 for gas, you're paying $2 for gas and $5.50 for socialism (by the gallon).
I usually avoid them because I know they dont make their own stuff
That's ostensibly an advantage. Every fab turns out some turkeys and bad lots. If Kingston has good QA they can find and re-sell the best and reject the rest. If.
If they could use kudzu it would save the South!
it could automatically reconfigure the biofuel economy, eh?
As for the code in the Prius, no company is every going to open source their "trade secrets".
Assuming you mean 'ever' all I can say is this question has already been resolved n times over.
If there are deaths, NHTSB is probably going to make them disclose it to them anyway.
As a final parting shot, I have the most experience with Debian and Ubuntu system, so I would have preferred that they choose apt and .debs over yum and .rpms, but certainly more important than the package manager is the hope that they'll continue to maintain a free and open system.
Agreed. I have more experience on the RPM side, but I owned an n810 for about a year and found apt to be fine, it didn't really matter. The bad old days of dpkg bitching about circular dependencies didn't revisit during my time on maemo.
I suspect what won them over is that Fedora pushes on the new technology front much harder than debian, and something like MeeGo can't be a couple years behind. They could have rebased on Ubuntu, but then they'd both be in new territory.
I know that's probably a hopeless request without some sort of basis in this field, but can someone give the "particle physics for dummies" equivalent here?
No, probably not, but if you're interested, I heartily recommended
Warped Passages by Lisa Randall. She spends first 80 or so pages reviewing physics in a manner accessible to those of us who took it in high school but need a refresher/update. But it does take those 80 or so pages under your belt so you can understand the rest of her book. Hence my apprehension that a comment here could suffice.
It's a couple years old, so some of the information is probably dated by recent Tevatron and LHC results (IIRC some of the theories reviewed in the book were looking for Higgs to be at 600 GeV?) but the foundation allows current news to make sense.
Or just wait a couple years, it'll all be figured out by then (if the Euro doesn't collapse and send Europe into chaos...). Understanding the multitude of theories used to shape the search isn't strictly necessary if it's found and plunked into the Standard Model.
how stupid are you?
Wait, so you're saying my personal experience using Skype at a coffee shop doesn't scale to massive international networks? Shocking, shocking I say.
Why deliver voice packets via best-effort TCP/IP delivery, when you can reserve guaranteed bandwidth for voice on your own network? As a full-time user of VoIP, I can tell you that it's got a long way to go
They control the air network end-to-end. There's no reason they can't do QoS on IP. Reserving a full channel with lots of dead air is just a recipe for higher costs.
Remember, AT&T has been all VoIP for a decade - but they own their network so it works. Your experience over the public Internet is likely to be different.
If it's all packets, then they can't justify why an SMS message would cost so much.
SMS travels in network control packets that get sent regardless of whether there's an SMS message in them or not.
So, a current cost of $0 doesn't stop them from charging 20 cents now, why would it in the future? They could only allow signed comms on their network and AppStore the developers into submission.
I only drive cars that have been hand-assembled by individuals working out of their backyards.
Which would you trust more, secret Prius control software or Prius control software that is open and Woz can inspect?