Clients are expecting developers to deliver a high end experience, but refusing to let us use the proper technologies. They're hard core on the HTML5 bandwagon without any real understanding of the limits it currently imposes.
This is the real issue. Adobe shouldn't have so publicly declared this drop of support for mobile - it should have just been quiet. This announcement will drive Flash many developers away. Adobe may get around it all by just buying the next set of non-Adobe HTML5 dev tools if they grow more popular than their own....but the move was poorly handled, and puts current content developers in a very difficult position. KM
I ran Mercury Mail on a Windows Server box (and got my share of crap for that from the *nix crowd;-) several years ago, for a few years, on a static DSL connection at home. Worked pretty well overall. I abandoned it when storage space became an issue with the IMAP setup and, finally, when the ISP banned outbound 25. Since my SMTP had to then forward to the ISP's SMTP...the only advantage my setup had was local (fast) delivery to the clients....but with faster connections, that also became moot.... Then there were the occasional power outages which killed all deliveries and, bah, just not worth the hassle. And THAT was just with a family setup. Nowhere near the hassles of the corporate tales shared here.
Now I just have a reseller account on web host where I can setup websites and email for various friends and customers - all low-volume stuff. The host keeps the IPs and traffic fairly clean, SpamAssassin does fine for server filtering, and we all have Cpanel > Horde webmail (which, yes, is lame and last-decade, but works).
At work, small 25 person company, IT does host their own Exchange server at the the same DC where various other servers are hosted. Works well enough but it does take a bit of time to manage (I'm out of that grunt game now though). KM
'cept where does the water come from at the top? Does the water at the bottom get re-pumped to the top? D'oh! Wait, wind/solar for uphill water pumps...?
Adobe is already on this. They've just released an add-on for Dreamweaver CS5 to assist in HTML5 development.
Adobe is not just Flash. Adobe makes tools. Sure they want to see Flash remain, but if/when HTML5 becomes more refined, Adobe will provide tools for that tool (and they already are).
"Create a version in Flash and not support the iPhone, iPad, and several other phones."
When the Flash 10 Player is officially released, mobile phone support shouldn't be an issue, except for Apple devices. So do you re-do everything, or start new with a new HTML 5 spec, to add support for Apple Hardware? Or do you use Flash which covers pretty much all devices and let Apple users miss the experience? So 15% of the phone market misses out...is that really that big a deal? Maybe...
"Create a version in Flash and a version in HTML5 to support both regular Web browsers and the iPhone, iPad, and Mobile devices that don't do Flash?"
Surely not ideal, agreed.
"Just create an HTML5 version without Flash, and still support both all major browsers and the iPhone, iPad, and other mobile browsers, excluding some very old versions of browsers that have not installed the Google Frame plug-in?"
It's not a finalized spec, and won't be for a few more YEARS. There's no consistent browser support. A killer to much online video, there's no DRM (as 'evil' as it may be). There are no IDE tools to support the animation components (though Adobe will be the first to release one).
Finally, the Flash Player needs work, no doubt. Flash itself has been poorly used and written by many, no doubt (not Adobe/Flash's fault). So browsers which will now render all this stuff natively...won't be bloated, won't eat lots of RAM, won't be slow... Right? Javascript is no doubt a better language and more efficient that Actionscript...right? Hmmm. KM
I read through up to here to see if anyone mentioned this aspect. While it may be amazing that anyone still works at AOL, they do. I know some very smart and talented folks who work for AOL and have AOL email addresses. While I generally attribute the, um, 'non-techie' stereotype to most AOL addresses...I certainly wouldn't discard resumes that list that....at least not until checking to see if they actually work/ed there. If they never have, well, ok...maybe that resume doesn't get tossed but it may end up toward the bottom of the pile. KM
Does that only work if you let iTunes manage your library? My library was already established when I setup iTunes and when I tried to allow iTunes to manage it, things got mangled and I was not pleased with the result. However, I can't say I've tried a DnD on iTunes in years, so may be worth a try again. I still think a periodic review and update of my library folder would be...nice. KM
I disagree. Why not at the application level? PDF creator monitors a folder for new files and automatically converts them to PDF (or at least, it did last I heavily used it). I'd rather my OS not do something like that if it's not needed.
Having to manually update the iTunes library on all 4 computers in the house is dumb and annoying. KM
Largely, that was a Bunch of Crap. Agreed, Dems now have the opportunity to fix things. I sure hope they do. I'm skeptical considering the lack of progress over the last two years.
The press, however, will report a story if it means viewership. They're not 'married' to anyone...they are possibly the LEAST loyal of any group.
Bush was loved after 9/11 and had a free pass for YEARS on his mismanagement. The press finally caught on that this would make a good story...let the 'bashing' begin.
Obama will have no sort of free pass...and considering the expectations, I expect exactly the opposite.
What will be interesting is how the Daily Show handles the evolution! KM
I have a Thecus NAS that works very well. I've two of the five bays in RAID 1. The only downside is all the bays/drives have to be a part of the same config... So I can't have two drives in RAID 1 and three drives in RAID 0, which would be cool but not critical. It's not cheap but a decent priced solution. It's plugged directly into my switch (NAS!).
I then have that unit setup to Rsync to a drive on my domain controller every other night. So I have about 1 day to catch any problems. KM
Until nuclear waste can be cleanly disposed of without negative effect, nuclear will never be the ideal solution. Solar is the ideal solution, we just gotta get them thar panels working better! A city with efficient solar panels on every roof is the dream... KM
As I understand it, there is no Requirement for someone to have an ID. If you want to drive, you need one. If you want to buy booze, you probably need one. Otherwise, there is no mandate that someone needs an ID. That is freedom. With the Real ID act, wouldn't everyone be required to have an ID? KM
I've wanted to state this throughout the thread, your comment gives me a good 'in'. A key aspect of 'instructional design' is not only the presentation and content, but motivation of the learner.
An earlier post about the iPhone makes a decent point, that Steve Jobs uses the tool effectively. But it's also easier for him as his audience is already highly motivated to pay attention and absorb what he's saying.
So, essentially, yes - you do want to try to 'trick' lazy people into learning. Good instruction should seek a way to 'make those people learn or be less lazy'.
It's certainly a challenge and hard to do but it often *is* possible. Beyond that, well, reading some Instructional Design theory (Gagne, Dick and Carey, etc.) will quench the knowledge thirst...a little anyway. KM
"Forget solar, that will never happen" Why not? Maybe not in your lifetime but, what, the sun is going to expire before Solar becomes viable? It already is a decent alternative with improvements every year. Why should it just be forgotten?
"Storage of spent fuel is always an issue, but not insurmountable if everyone would check their emotions at the door." Checked. So what's your solution? the waste is my only objection to nuclear energy. It's a HUGE problem. Substitute localized smog for radiation? Great improvement. Let's solve the problem before we jump onboard. Wait, what am I saying?! This is America! Later generations can deal with the 'fallout'. KM
FWIW, yes, what he and others have said. You didn't use to have to pay for Shareware to use a fully-functional version...but hopefully you were honorable enough to pay for it if you used it alot. Not surprising that concept isn't true any longer. KM
No. You made a claim. You can't back it up when requested to do so. Saying you won't back it up until the post you replied to is a cop-out, a spin, a squirm, and just lame - with a little self-righteous indignation thrown in to try to bolster your reply. Either back it up or admit you can't. Saying you won't until some other claim is justified means absolutely nothing and, frankly, makes it obvious you haven't a proverbial leg to stand on. KM
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Clients are expecting developers to deliver a high end experience, but refusing to let us use the proper technologies. They're hard core on the HTML5 bandwagon without any real understanding of the limits it currently imposes.
This is the real issue. Adobe shouldn't have so publicly declared this drop of support for mobile - it should have just been quiet. This announcement will drive Flash many developers away. Adobe may get around it all by just buying the next set of non-Adobe HTML5 dev tools if they grow more popular than their own....but the move was poorly handled, and puts current content developers in a very difficult position.
KM
They are just abandoning flash.
FUD: No, they're not...just the mobile web plugin.
With Adobe HTML5 creator. Or whatever they call it.
Which is exactly his point.
KM
I ran Mercury Mail on a Windows Server box (and got my share of crap for that from the *nix crowd ;-) several years ago, for a few years, on a static DSL connection at home. Worked pretty well overall. I abandoned it when storage space became an issue with the IMAP setup and, finally, when the ISP banned outbound 25. Since my SMTP had to then forward to the ISP's SMTP...the only advantage my setup had was local (fast) delivery to the clients....but with faster connections, that also became moot....
Then there were the occasional power outages which killed all deliveries and, bah, just not worth the hassle.
And THAT was just with a family setup. Nowhere near the hassles of the corporate tales shared here.
Now I just have a reseller account on web host where I can setup websites and email for various friends and customers - all low-volume stuff. The host keeps the IPs and traffic fairly clean, SpamAssassin does fine for server filtering, and we all have Cpanel > Horde webmail (which, yes, is lame and last-decade, but works).
At work, small 25 person company, IT does host their own Exchange server at the the same DC where various other servers are hosted. Works well enough but it does take a bit of time to manage (I'm out of that grunt game now though).
KM
'cept where does the water come from at the top? Does the water at the bottom get re-pumped to the top? D'oh!
Wait, wind/solar for uphill water pumps...?
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Adobe is already on this. They've just released an add-on for Dreamweaver CS5 to assist in HTML5 development.
Adobe is not just Flash. Adobe makes tools. Sure they want to see Flash remain, but if/when HTML5 becomes more refined, Adobe will provide tools for that tool (and they already are).
Be informed not biased.
KM
I don't accept your premises.
"Create a version in Flash and not support the iPhone, iPad, and several other phones."
When the Flash 10 Player is officially released, mobile phone support shouldn't be an issue, except for Apple devices. So do you re-do everything, or start new with a new HTML 5 spec, to add support for Apple Hardware? Or do you use Flash which covers pretty much all devices and let Apple users miss the experience? So 15% of the phone market misses out...is that really that big a deal? Maybe...
"Create a version in Flash and a version in HTML5 to support both regular Web browsers and the iPhone, iPad, and Mobile devices that don't do Flash?"
Surely not ideal, agreed.
"Just create an HTML5 version without Flash, and still support both all major browsers and the iPhone, iPad, and other mobile browsers, excluding some very old versions of browsers that have not installed the Google Frame plug-in?"
It's not a finalized spec, and won't be for a few more YEARS. There's no consistent browser support. A killer to much online video, there's no DRM (as 'evil' as it may be). There are no IDE tools to support the animation components (though Adobe will be the first to release one).
Finally, the Flash Player needs work, no doubt. Flash itself has been poorly used and written by many, no doubt (not Adobe/Flash's fault). So browsers which will now render all this stuff natively...won't be bloated, won't eat lots of RAM, won't be slow...
Right?
Javascript is no doubt a better language and more efficient that Actionscript...right?
Hmmm.
KM
So maybe it would be better for pizza rolls, or maybe even a calzone...
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I read through up to here to see if anyone mentioned this aspect.
While it may be amazing that anyone still works at AOL, they do. I know some very smart and talented folks who work for AOL and have AOL email addresses.
While I generally attribute the, um, 'non-techie' stereotype to most AOL addresses...I certainly wouldn't discard resumes that list that....at least not until checking to see if they actually work/ed there.
If they never have, well, ok...maybe that resume doesn't get tossed but it may end up toward the bottom of the pile.
KM
I may be old, infrequent, and/or unhip but that's hilarious ;-)
If you believe the 'Rich' use the same or fewer government services and benefits than the 'Poor', well, I suggest you keep researching the issue.
KM
Does that only work if you let iTunes manage your library? My library was already established when I setup iTunes and when I tried to allow iTunes to manage it, things got mangled and I was not pleased with the result.
However, I can't say I've tried a DnD on iTunes in years, so may be worth a try again. I still think a periodic review and update of my library folder would be...nice.
KM
I disagree. Why not at the application level? PDF creator monitors a folder for new files and automatically converts them to PDF (or at least, it did last I heavily used it). I'd rather my OS not do something like that if it's not needed.
Having to manually update the iTunes library on all 4 computers in the house is dumb and annoying.
KM
Largely, that was a Bunch of Crap.
Agreed, Dems now have the opportunity to fix things. I sure hope they do. I'm skeptical considering the lack of progress over the last two years.
The press, however, will report a story if it means viewership. They're not 'married' to anyone...they are possibly the LEAST loyal of any group.
Bush was loved after 9/11 and had a free pass for YEARS on his mismanagement. The press finally caught on that this would make a good story...let the 'bashing' begin.
Obama will have no sort of free pass...and considering the expectations, I expect exactly the opposite.
What will be interesting is how the Daily Show handles the evolution!
KM
I have a Thecus NAS that works very well. I've two of the five bays in RAID 1. The only downside is all the bays/drives have to be a part of the same config... So I can't have two drives in RAID 1 and three drives in RAID 0, which would be cool but not critical.
It's not cheap but a decent priced solution. It's plugged directly into my switch (NAS!).
I then have that unit setup to Rsync to a drive on my domain controller every other night. So I have about 1 day to catch any problems.
KM
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Until nuclear waste can be cleanly disposed of without negative effect, nuclear will never be the ideal solution. Solar is the ideal solution, we just gotta get them thar panels working better! A city with efficient solar panels on every roof is the dream...
KM
As I understand it, there is no Requirement for someone to have an ID. If you want to drive, you need one. If you want to buy booze, you probably need one. Otherwise, there is no mandate that someone needs an ID. That is freedom.
With the Real ID act, wouldn't everyone be required to have an ID?
KM
I've wanted to state this throughout the thread, your comment gives me a good 'in'.
A key aspect of 'instructional design' is not only the presentation and content, but motivation of the learner.
An earlier post about the iPhone makes a decent point, that Steve Jobs uses the tool effectively. But it's also easier for him as his audience is already highly motivated to pay attention and absorb what he's saying.
So, essentially, yes - you do want to try to 'trick' lazy people into learning. Good instruction should seek a way to 'make those people learn or be less lazy'.
It's certainly a challenge and hard to do but it often *is* possible. Beyond that, well, reading some Instructional Design theory (Gagne, Dick and Carey, etc.) will quench the knowledge thirst...a little anyway.
KM
Being able to rattle off any list of given facts has little to do with 'intelligence'.
I think it's called the 'Claven Fallacy'.
KM
agricultural sprawl?
Heavy, man...heavy.
KM
"Forget solar, that will never happen"
Why not? Maybe not in your lifetime but, what, the sun is going to expire before Solar becomes viable? It already is a decent alternative with improvements every year. Why should it just be forgotten?
"Storage of spent fuel is always an issue, but not insurmountable if everyone would check their emotions at the door."
Checked. So what's your solution?
the waste is my only objection to nuclear energy. It's a HUGE problem. Substitute localized smog for radiation? Great improvement. Let's solve the problem before we jump onboard. Wait, what am I saying?! This is America! Later generations can deal with the 'fallout'.
KM
FWIW, yes, what he and others have said. You didn't use to have to pay for Shareware to use a fully-functional version...but hopefully you were honorable enough to pay for it if you used it alot.
Not surprising that concept isn't true any longer.
KM
No. You made a claim. You can't back it up when requested to do so. Saying you won't back it up until the post you replied to is a cop-out, a spin, a squirm, and just lame - with a little self-righteous indignation thrown in to try to bolster your reply.
Either back it up or admit you can't. Saying you won't until some other claim is justified means absolutely nothing and, frankly, makes it obvious you haven't a proverbial leg to stand on.
KM
Um...
Move your office?