Unfortunately, this specific *type* of working around the legal route to justice will only stengthen the tactics/creativity used by "bad guys"(c). It's introducing the darwin effect, and will only kill off the stupid for s short time.. until they learn they much up the anty. In time that will only make it harder to detect the scams. While its cool in the short run, it's only helping the bad guys evolve.
Apply the same reasoning to door locks (with spelling corrected, of course)...
Unfortunately, installing door locks will only stengthen the tactics/creativity used by "bad guys"(c). It's introducing the darwin effect, and will only kill off the stupid for a short time.. until they learn they must up the ante. In time that will only make it harder to keep crooks out of your home. While its cool in the short run, it's only helping the bad guys evolve.
... doesn't make much sense in the real world, does it...
I think you need to get your head out of your ass.
The ultimate result of vigilantism isn't the punishment of the criminal but the erosion of the rule of law.
... except that the jurisdictions where the servers are sitting don't have much in the way of law to erode, now do they?
Having their web site defaced is getting off easy. If they want to complain, they're always free to set up shop in a jurisdiction with tougher laws... lets hope some of them are dumb enough to do so.
We would rather see the industry itself find solutions.
"The industry" would rather use this as an opportunity to sell you "our latest anti-phishing software". Fuck that! That is NOT a solution. That's barely a bandaid.
I agree. The original deal was made when blank CDs cost $35 a DISK, and worm drives were $5,000 each. The recording industry never figured they'd see sub $50 burners and blank dvds at $0.30 each.
But that's their problem... not mine, not yours. They made a deal, and now that conditions have changed, tough shit:-)
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WTF? How many times do people say "The right tool for the right job"? Open-source software is a TOOL. You can use open-source software to run real brick-and-mortar businesses. Not everything is "virtual reality" or selling software. Real goods have to be produced, handled, and sold.
Sure, open-source reduces revenues for certain software producers. For example, I don't need to run a virus scanner, because I'm not running a certain closed-source OS, so Symantec doesn't get any $$$ from me. Aw, too bad...
The web server in my office has a decent uptime last time I looked (yesterday). It's also open-source, but it helps run the business.
The sales guys are running web apps on that same open-source OS as their desktop, using an open-source browser to check inventory, print, etc. They seem to be making a living.
This whole thing stinks of sour grapes. And you obviously don't "get it" either.
I'd agree with a lot of your choices - but NOT "The Birds". I remember how it was supposed to be so scary we weren't allowed to watch it when I was a kid. Watched it a few years ago - it is SO cheasy. Replace "The Birds" with Groundhog Day.
Well, we've got this new product in dev., its going to be sooo cool, bhah blah blah, I just had to let you in on some of the advanced features blah blah blah
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The fucking morons where I work REALLY nead to get a clue. The stooopid lazy bastards... I swear, their vcr is stuck at 12:00, they can't make change for a $20 without using a calculator, but put them in front of a PC and they're suddenly smart? Fuck them, they want to open attachments, I'm signing them up to a dozen farm-sex pr0n sites. "Gee, sorry, guy... I *told* ya not to click on attachments..."
Um... guess you didn't read that the "book" they wanted back NEVER EXISTED! Wasn't in their card catalog, database, etc. They screwed up. Sort of like an earlier version of the BSA going after people for hosting GPL'd software... or the RIAA going after people for sharing files that are in the public domain...
Every yer or so I take my keyboard, hold it upside down, and shake it. Man, the junk that comes out of there... I'm continuously amazed that it still works. Cookie crumbs, dog hair and drool, small parts,...
ou can easily switch between different keyboard layouts without anyone (you or other users) getting confused by the fact that the keys don't match the keycaps anymore.
I've switched my keymap so I can use the dead keys (works even on non-dead-key keyboards under linux)... but only on some of the boxes I use. So the keys don't really match up completely anyways.
Most of the guys signed up for typing way back when - it was taught by the girls' gym teacher. A real hottie. Oh, if I only knew then what I kow now...
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Essays mizzle be 300 words or less. Extra points is given ta essays tizzle demonstrate tha positive impact Windows has made on someones life like a tru playa'. Microsoft will select winna in fizzle categizzles ridin' in mah double R: culture n communizzle music, memories, home n lifestizzle n sports n games aww nah. To win, you must be at least 13 years old, live in tha United States, n enta by Siznept puttin tha smack down. 30. Microsoft plans ta select shot calla in Wanna Be Gangsta.
Modding something funny doesn't increase karma; but any subsequent downmods decrease karma.
So, if you get 5 * +1 Funny and 5 -1 Troll, you lose 5 points, even though, logically, you should come out even. Get too many Funny mods and you can actually get banned...
So what mods are doing to compensate for the defective slashmath is modding funny stuff as informative instead...
At McMurdo, there are about four months of 24-hour daylight (that's "summer"), four months of 24-hour night ("winter"), and two months on either end where the sun is either coming or going.
The next step I can see is spammers sending out tons of pgp/gpg-encrypted email... along with a key in another email, making it look like its from a friend/whoever.
Dear S. Ucker:
Hi. My hard disk crashed, so I had to make a new public/private key pair. They're attached. Hope you didn't try to decrypt the paper I sent you with the old one - it won't work.
Thanks
A. S. Pammer
You can't solve a social problem (spam, drug abuse, etc) through legislation or technology - only education.
Or imagine causing an earthquake in the west island.
Don't laugh - I remember one earthquake in the West Island... it sounded like people were tromping all over the place on the roof, of all things. I tried to call someone else to see if they heard it too, but so many people were also trying to make phone calls that the line was totally dead - not even a dial tone. This was back in the late '80s, IIRC.
Anyone with an ounce of intellegence will keep a land line for 911.
Anyone who's not housebound is going to be carrying a cell phone - and a lot of us use it as our only line... works fine. This 911 stuff is mostly alarmist BS. Your home line is useless for calling 911 when you're in the yard, or in your car, or walking the dogs, or anywhere else except in your house.
Obiquitous cell phone usage has already pretty much killed off OnStar renewals... its hurting the old-line telcos... and VoIP is just another choice.
If your house is on fire, you're not going to be making a phone call anyway, whether you have a land line or VoIP. You're getting the fuck out. Then, once you're safely outside, you can use your cell phone to call for help.
BS. My ISP sold my email addy when I signed up for my account - even before I was connected, so it was too late to "opt out".
Besides, did you read the article?
"It's sometimes very difficult to tell the difference between spam coming across your network and your local charitable organization sending out its monthly newsletter," said McClure, who added that U.S. law prevents Internet providers from reading customer e-mail.
The FTC's campaign follows on earlier efforts to shut down "open relays" and other poorly configured computers that have been exploited by spammers.
So, how are they to filter this w/o reading your mail? *someone* has to verify it... whether its your ISP or the FTC or some other 3-letter group.
Maybe its time to come up with a better RFC for handling mail - one that doesn't allow you to fake the headers, sender, etc. Then also have the ISPs issue static IP addies, so zombies can be identified properly. It's not like this is any "bells and whistles" thing.
After reading TFA, it strikes me that the easiest way to get personal details is to set up a honeypot, allow it to be "compromised" by phishers, and log all the data their victims post to your honeypot (before modifying it so that the phishers don't get valid data).
This way, the phishers are doing all the hard work (mass email spam, etc), and getting none of the benefit.
The article even goes on to tell you what tools to use... so expect this to be the next level of phishing scam.
I'm almost tempted... must resist the dark side... do you think we can get the phishers to offer up free pr0n? [tt]
It's equally amazing that a web browser would do anything on link mouseover EXCEPT show the real target of a link!)
it's a javascript one-liner... or for those too lazy/dumb/whatever, just a url that goes to a referrer to bounce the click elsewhere (like a lot of goatse.cx links were using google's "I feel lucky")
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Having their web site defaced is getting off easy. If they want to complain, they're always free to set up shop in a jurisdiction with tougher laws ... lets hope some of them are dumb enough to do so.
But that's their problem ... not mine, not yours. They made a deal, and now that conditions have changed, tough shit :-)
Sure, open-source reduces revenues for certain software producers. For example, I don't need to run a virus scanner, because I'm not running a certain closed-source OS, so Symantec doesn't get any $$$ from me. Aw, too bad ...
The web server in my office has a decent uptime last time I looked (yesterday). It's also open-source, but it helps run the business.
The sales guys are running web apps on that same open-source OS as their desktop, using an open-source browser to check inventory, print, etc. They seem to be making a living.
This whole thing stinks of sour grapes. And you obviously don't "get it" either.
And if you really want a head-twister, try "Saw".
The big difference, imo, is that "The Killing Fields" was a true story, like another of my favourites - "Papillon".
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Real-lifeIf you include "Apocalypse Now", you've really got to include "The Killing Fields".
Um... guess you didn't read that the "book" they wanted back NEVER EXISTED! Wasn't in their card catalog, database, etc. They screwed up. Sort of like an earlier version of the BSA going after people for hosting GPL'd software ... or the RIAA going after people for sharing files that are in the public domain ...
Every yer or so I take my keyboard, hold it upside down, and shake it. Man, the junk that comes out of there ... I'm continuously amazed that it still works. Cookie crumbs, dog hair and drool, small parts, ...
Most of the guys signed up for typing way back when - it was taught by the girls' gym teacher. A real hottie. Oh, if I only knew then what I kow now ...
So, if you get 5 * +1 Funny and 5 -1 Troll, you lose 5 points, even though, logically, you should come out even. Get too many Funny mods and you can actually get banned ...
So what mods are doing to compensate for the defective slashmath is modding funny stuff as informative instead ...
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That's one of the great things about voice synthesizers - you can make them do a bad imitation of anyone if you play around with the spelling a bit.
Obiquitous cell phone usage has already pretty much killed off OnStar renewals ... its hurting the old-line telcos ... and VoIP is just another choice.
If your house is on fire, you're not going to be making a phone call anyway, whether you have a land line or VoIP. You're getting the fuck out. Then, once you're safely outside, you can use your cell phone to call for help.
Besides, did you read the article?
So, how are they to filter this w/o reading your mail? *someone* has to verify itMaybe its time to come up with a better RFC for handling mail - one that doesn't allow you to fake the headers, sender, etc. Then also have the ISPs issue static IP addies, so zombies can be identified properly. It's not like this is any "bells and whistles" thing.
I'm sure the phishers are working on a new, "improved" version even as we speak ...
This way, the phishers are doing all the hard work (mass email spam, etc), and getting none of the benefit.
The article even goes on to tell you what tools to use ... so expect this to be the next level of phishing scam.
I'm almost tempted ... must resist the dark side ... do you think we can get the phishers to offer up free pr0n? [tt]