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Netcraft Toolbar for Firefox Available

miller60 writes "Netcraft has just released the Firefox version of its anti-phishing toolbar, which blocks known phishing sites and suspicious urls, and displays the hosting information and risk rating for visited sites. Toolbar users have submitted more than 5,600 phishing sites since the IE version was released in late December."

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  1. Netcraft confirms.... by FriedTurkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Netcraft confirms that Firefox users are already smart enough to figure out if a site is phishing

    Netcraft confirms that IE users will install spyware to combat phishing.

    1. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by NetNifty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " Netcraft confirms that Firefox users are already smart enough to figure out if a site is phishing"

      Not necessarily, it isn't just geeks that use Firefox any more - I for one (and I'm sure many other /.ers have too) have installed Firefox for many other people who would be using IE otherwise.

    2. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by ultimabaka · · Score: 1

      "Toolbar users have submitted more than 5,600 phishing sites since the IE version was released in late December."

      If you're going to insult IE users, the least you could do is read the damned article caption. Jeez.

    3. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by Marthisdil · · Score: 0

      FriedTurkey proves that OSS fanbois are everywhere....News at 11.

    4. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by adtifyj · · Score: 1

      In related news, herds of Firefox users experienced difficulties installing the toolbar.
      Netcraft was not available for comment.

    5. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by BorgHunter · · Score: 1

      But one would hope that the geek would have briefed the non-geek Firefox user on how to avoid something like phishing. I have my grandfather, father, and stepmother (among others) using Firefox, but I also made sure that they're not stupid enough to fall for a phishing scam. I think that 99% of /.ers know that using good software isn't enough -- you have to be able to recognize scams and dangerous situations on the Internet to be secure at all. Thus, Firefox is but one prong in my "improve Granny's security" offensive.

      --
      "Excuse me, did you say 'Trekker'? The word is 'Trekkie.' I should know; I created them." -- Gene Roddenberry
    6. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by dingfelder · · Score: 1
      it isn't just geeks that use Firefox any more - I for one
      I hope it is not too late to clue you in...

      You are posting on Slashdot

      You ARE a geek
    7. Re:Netcraft confirms.... by NetNifty · · Score: 1

      Well... duh. If you read the next part of that sentence I said " have installed Firefox for many other people who would be using IE" implying I installed it on people's system who weren't geeks.

  2. Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I canfirm that *BSD is dying without navigating to a separate page!

    1. Re:Sweet! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      Well, since I got a "timed out" when tried to download the linux/firefox toolbar, I guess NetCraft now confirms that NetCraft is dying ...

      I'm sure the phishers are working on a new, "improved" version even as we speak ...

    2. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to ask: where did this type of humor start from? (I finally learned the "all your base are belong to us one" recently, so I figured I'd better work on this one while I'm at it.)

    3. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FreeBSD:
      FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
      "FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
      Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
      "[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
      What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
      "FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

      NetBSD:
      NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
      NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
      NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)

      OpenBSD:
      OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
      Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
      OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.

      *BSD in general:
      Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
      "The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
      BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
      "The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration."
      ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

      --
      Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

  3. Kudos Netcraft by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "...Better late than never..."

    That aside; if it takes a company like Netcraft almost 6 months to come out with a Linux version, to me that's being slow to act. Thanx never-the-less to Netcraft.

    1. Re:Kudos Netcraft by e9th · · Score: 1

      I don't think the Firefox version is limited to Linux.

    2. Re:Kudos Netcraft by ProfaneBaby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Speaking of 'slow', the IE version was so painfully slow that I uninstalled it after 2 days.

      I'm not sure if the load was because it was 'new' and popular, or if they didn't anticipate the number of downloads, but having the toolbar active would cause a 2-3 second delay in loading EVERY site. Very annoying.

      Hopefully they've found a way to fix that problem, either by fixing the code or adding hardware.

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    3. Re:Kudos Netcraft by eln · · Score: 1

      The real question is, will they be coming out with a *BSD version?

    4. Re:Kudos Netcraft by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      Does the Netcraft toolbar run on FreeBSD?

    5. Re:Kudos Netcraft by MynockGuano · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but all it does is put a red stripe across your screen that reads, "The OS you are using appears to be dead. Consider installing something trendier."

    6. Re:Kudos Netcraft by netsharc · · Score: 1

      If the toolbar goes to Netcraft's server to query its DB if such-and-such is a bad site for every URL it visits, I can't imagine how slow it would run and how expensive their bandwidth bill would become, not to mention the privacy issues of telling Netcraft your every move on the web. Perhaps it works like antiviruses, with regular updates posted on the server that can (or should) be automatically downloaded. That should make it easy for bandwidth, and the updates can be made incremental so that you only have to download what you don't already have.

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    7. Re:Kudos Netcraft by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Hang on.

      Not everything begins life as a multi OS super project.
      Many projects start on Windows, and don't run on Linux nor on a Mac, that doesn't stop things being released.

      Prove the concept, then expand your market to meet demand.

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
  4. Soooon....... by cloudreader · · Score: 5, Funny

    there wont be any space in the browser to look at pages, only toolbars. someone has to come up with a toolbar organizing plugin may be?

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    1. Re:Soooon....... by StratoChief66 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course... but it will take the form of another toolbar.

      --
      Frylock: "We should have cloned twenties, Jackson wouldn't have given a fuck."
    2. Re:Soooon....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Firefox Dashboard"

    3. Re:Soooon....... by shoresh · · Score: 1

      does it have to be a toolbar, why does it need to be visible at all times?

    4. Re:Soooon....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In reference to your sig:

      it's their 14th album.

      Duh.

    5. Re:Soooon....... by temojen · · Score: 1

      Or a toolbar toolbar.

    6. Re:Soooon....... by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      Have you ever seen the IE screens of people that are a bit clueless? They will have an iShop toolbar, an Alexa toolbar, a Google toolbar, a Yahoo toolbar, and at least 2 or 3 other toolbars, plus another one altogether displaying "Hot new game" or something like that. Since most of them don't like "the words little" they have their computers at 800x600 resolution, meaning effectively they have about a 720x40 browsing area.

      --

      Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

    7. Re:Soooon....... by forkazoo · · Score: 1

      One toolbar to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them...

    8. Re:Soooon....... by tehshen · · Score: 1
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      Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
    9. Re:Soooon....... by sardonica · · Score: 1

      Parent is not just funny, it is insightful. There should be a +2 mod for that.

      When the unicode mapping exploit became known to me, I played around with the SpoofStick extension to Firefox, which mapped the unicode into punycode to make the phishing attempt more apparent. It worked as advertised, but aside from being unbelievably ugly, SpoofStick required creation of yet another toolbar. I use a laptop, so vertical screen space is at a premium. No more toolbars!!

      Fortunately, updated Firefox config options allow user to do the punycode mapping in the URL, my personal preference. Problem solved.

      But every time a new problem comes along, must we really use another toolbar?

      --
      %Gotta sig?
      No match.
    10. Re:Soooon....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While what you say is too true, your comment combined with your sig made me laugh.

      (Score:1, Pot/Kettle)

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    11. Re:Soooon....... by StratoChief66 · · Score: 1

      Alright, so the choice has a minor bit of grounding in reality. Still doesn't make it sound less stupid. At least if he said '1,2,3, popsicles!' I would know he's saying it to sound dumb but saying 19 without explaination yet it supposedly having a grounding in something real is just fucking dumb.

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      Frylock: "We should have cloned twenties, Jackson wouldn't have given a fuck."
    12. Re:Soooon....... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      To save screen space, how about a small animated character that pops up and warns you when you hit a phishing site and gives you a list of options? Symbolically, it could look like a fishhook or a bent piece of wire...

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    13. Re:Soooon....... by ghostmagic · · Score: 1

      "One toolbar to rule them all..."

    14. Re:Soooon....... by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      Holy crap. Only purifying fire will get rid of that.

    15. Re:Soooon....... by Bobsledboy · · Score: 1

      Dear God... you just reinvented clippy.

      -1, Spawn of Satan =P

    16. Re:Soooon....... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Hey, just a sugestion. Poor little guy lost his job at Microsoft. No one will hire him and he just wants a hand up, not a hand out.

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    17. Re:Soooon....... by calculadoru · · Score: 1

      1, 2, 3, 14 ?! What the hell is going through your head Bono?

      he was drunk. no really he was, look it up, he said so in an interview.

      --
      The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -- G.B. Shaw
    18. Re:Soooon....... by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      Simple solution: Write an HTML rendering toolbar that allows you to view webpages!

  5. There are enough security tools available... by Sheetrock · · Score: 1, Insightful
    The trick is in persuading people to use them. Microsoft is in the best position to do this, and I applaud the techniques they released in SP2 to recommend basic firewalling and regular software updates, but it is still up to users to run a virus scanner, file integrity checker, and turn off services they don't require.

    A vegetarian diet is tastier and better for you than what most people eat, but it requires consciousness that there is a problem with the status quo and a dedication to change it. Similarly it is easier to run a computer packed full of spyware and viruses than it is to research the problem and patch the holes. That's up to the end user, but they first need to be aware of the problems -- and it's up to people like us to wake them up.

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    Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
    -- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.




    1. Re:There are enough security tools available... by 8086ed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Vegetarians don't know how to eat, let alone how to use a toolbar.

    2. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A vegetarian diet is tastier "

      Tastier? Yeah, okayyyyyyy.... This is probably coming from the same people who don't know what real beer and a well-prepared steak taste like.

    3. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      i use toolbars whilst dining upon my hummus and sprouts all day long, you insensitive clod.

    4. Re:There are enough security tools available... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A vegetarian diet is tastier and better for you than what most people eat

      Your point is well taken, but the "tastiness" of a vegetarian diet is very much a personal preference and the healthiness is a matter of your metabolism. A full 8% of the human race will slowly die without meat in their diet due to the lack of certain enzymes. As an aside, have you ever noticed how vegetarian meals often are imitations of meat or dairy products? I've seen vegetarian cheeseburgers and thought, "man, just buy the real thing already." As I said though, it's a a personal preference.

    5. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Tastier? Yeah, okayyyyyyy.... This is probably coming from the same people who don't know what real beer and a well-prepared steak taste like."

      Funny, as an Asian, I find the same thing to be true about American food and drink.

    6. Re:There are enough security tools available... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You're making the assumption that the food is western-vegetarian. Someone could be eating Asian food, which isn't don't really contain imitations of dairy or meat products.

      Err, no. I was making an observation about vegetarian meals I see. You know a lot of asian food is fish which (unless you are catholic) is meat.

    7. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...which isn't don't really contain..."

      THAT is awesome!

      Well done, Sir!

    8. Re:There are enough security tools available... by JOhn-E+G · · Score: 2, Funny

      You also never see Imitation veggies made out of beef!

    9. Re:There are enough security tools available... by GlacierDragon · · Score: 1

      My sister is a vegetarian, and I get sick if I don't have meat. (Plus I'm allergic to onions and the green pepper family, so there goes at least half the easily available vegetarian options.) I'd never heard that 8% would die without meat in their diet, now I can tell Mom I'm not making it up!

      Vegetarian is definitely not better for me.

      My sister also happens to be the kind of person who needs this kind of protection for her computer, so I hope no one is trying to draw any parallels with that.

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    10. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      Depends on the part of Asia. India does a lot of vegetarian stuff. Falaffel, samosas, various curries.

      English doesn't have a word for meat that isn't fish. It makes some foriegn diets sound like washed out vegetarian clones, but really they're only "vegetarian" because the English language doesn't have a better word for it.

      Not that I'm vegetarian... not that there's anything wrong with that.

    11. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You like vegetables. Neat.

      You think /other people/ should eat more vegetables because /you/ like them. That means you're stupid.

      Pretty simple really. If I weren't so cynical it might inspire me to wonder whether vegetables and stupidity are related. As it is, I'm inclined to blame Slashdot.

    12. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no enzymes or proteins that are needed for the human being are exclusively found in meat.

      Not accurate. Certain protiens ARE only found in meat. Fortunately for the majority of humans, their own meat-containing body generates these proteins. For the rest, those people will die without meat.

      I doubt thats 8% of the human race though.

    13. Re:There are enough security tools available... by metlin · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm asian and I can assure you that until I'd come to the US, the only animal related products I'd had was dairy related - milk, cheese and yoghurt.

      Surprisingly, we are quite strict about how we define vegetarian, as well (for instance, folks in the US mysteriously add eggs and mushrooms under vegetarian items -- duh!!!).

      And all the food I'd had was quite tasty, well flavoured and spicy, thank you very much. The meat-imitations that you'd mentioned are for the benefit of meat eaters converting to vegetarianism.

      However, that doesn't mean there isn't any real vegetarian food out there. Merely that you've not seen enough.

    14. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yum.

      Vegetarians are tasty. So meaty and if they are properly fed not too much fat.

      That being said. Why are most (not all) vegetarians so pale?

      Oh well I like the white meat anyways.

    15. Re:There are enough security tools available... by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I have not problem with calling eggs, milk, or mushrooms vegetarian. I can see your point since they are not plants but then you could say the same about dairy. What drives me crazy is when people eat fish and claim to be vegetarian. That and "ORGANIC" salt! What you consider vegetarian is what people in the use usually call vegan.
      I was vegetarian for a two years and it helped me loose 40lbs. If you like it go for it.
      Back on subject. Get a list of these Phishing sites? I would love to block them at my gateway. I don't need anymore tool bars.

      --
      See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
    16. Re:There are enough security tools available... by srleffler · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm not vegetarian, but I often buy various kinds of veggie burgers because I like them. They aren't the same as a 'real' burger (which I also like), but they have their own merits.

    17. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Shads · · Score: 1

      Yah, the morningstar farms blackbean burgers are divine... like chili in patti form. The sausage patties are pretty damn good to...

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      Shadus
    18. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but they are masters of the saladbar.

    19. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so I hope no one is trying to draw any parallels with that.

      No, we're drawing arrows right to her. Parallel lines don't do that.
    20. Re:There are enough security tools available... by 123abc987 · · Score: 1

      mushrooms are made from animals??

    21. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow... you loosed 40 pounds. Hopefully not all at once!

      Oh, you probably meant "lose 40 pounds"... in that case, congratulations, that's a lot of work! I've still only lost 20 pounds on the eat-anything-I-want diet... (the key is in wanting smaller portions...)

    22. Re:There are enough security tools available... by metlin · · Score: 1


      They are fungi, not plants. Vegetarian -- someone who eats vegetables, not fungi.

    23. Re:There are enough security tools available... by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Actually my grand total is 80 lbs.

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      See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
    24. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, as an Asian, I find the same thing to be true about American food and drink.

      Why do you call yourself an Asian instead of indicating your nationality? Oh, that's right, Indians are exactly the same as Japanese and their food is identical.

      Nice try.

    25. Re:There are enough security tools available... by metlin · · Score: 1

      I don't call dairy vegetarian, either. I call myself a lacto-vegetarian, that's all.

      I think vegetarian is defined as someone who eats plants and plant products - if you are going to be eating eggs and milk, you could be an ovo-lacto-vegetarian (that's the convention that's followed in a lot of places in Asia).

    26. Re:There are enough security tools available... by onetruedabe · · Score: 1

      A full 8% of the human race will slowly die without meat in their diet

      A full 100% of all life on Earth will slowly die regardless of diet, exercise, enzymes, or legislative oversight.

      Don't put it past the current Administration to declare "War on Death"; it'll be as effective as banning Phishing, Spyware, and File Sharing.

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    27. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      English doesn't have a word for meat that isn't fish. It makes some foriegn diets sound like washed out vegetarian clones, but really they're only "vegetarian" because the English language doesn't have a better word for it.

      I can't figure out what you're trying to say. This is the best I could come up with:

      "There's no English word for all non-piscine meat, therefore diets where fish is the sole meat sound like vegetarian wannabes."

      Of course, this makes no sense.

      Had you not mentioned fish, I would assume you meant diets with things like milk and cheese, but no actual animal flesh, are the ones that sound like vegetarian clones. And this would be true, because most Americans consider "vegetarian" to mean "no animal flesh" while "vegan" refers to "no animal-derived food at all."

    28. Re:There are enough security tools available... by rsynnott · · Score: 1

      If you're vegetarian for ethical reasons, it actually makes little sense to eat eggs (or milk) but not meat. If you're vegetarian for cultural, health, economic or yuck-factor reasons, it makes more sense.

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    29. Re:There are enough security tools available... by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Common usage in the US is Vegetarian does not eat meat. The truth is no one follows your definition of vegetarian since every person must consume salt to live which is not a plant or plant product. It all depends on how small of a nit you wish to pick.

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    30. Re:There are enough security tools available... by HSpirit · · Score: 1

      If you're vegetarian for ethical reasons, it actually makes little sense to eat eggs (or milk) but not meat.
      Why not?

      If the eggs and milk are free-range (i.e. the animals are treated well, are allowed to roam around and are not force-fed or fed inappropriately) then many would disagree with you.

      I am a non-meat eater (to avoid misinterpretation of the word "vegetarian") for reasons of personal ethics, and while I know I'm not perfect I think distinguishing between products of pain/death and products of regeneration/life makes much sense.

    31. Re:There are enough security tools available... by stunted · · Score: 1

      A vegetarian diet is tastier and better for you than ...

      It appears that during the Hominid diaspora and the evolution of Homo sapiens, warm adapted Hominid types were omnivorous while the later cold adapted ones became carnivorous, since it makes sense that the conditions we evolved under are probably the conditions we are best suited to I'll stick to eating a bit of nearly everything.

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    32. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A vegetarian diet is tastier and better for you than what most people eat"

      Don't you mean a diet OF vegetarians...

    33. Re:There are enough security tools available... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      The logic isn't that difficult.

      There's no word for a diet which discludes all meat except fish, so people loosely label themselves "vegetarian"

      When somebody describes such a diet as "vegetarian", and pops a chunk of trout in their mouth, people say "You're vegetarian, but you eat fish?"

      And other people promptly say "...then you're not vegetarian"

      E.g. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=150589&cid=126 27905

    34. Re:There are enough security tools available... by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Well because the male cows and chickens are not left to roam free as pets.
      More of an issue for milk than eggs to be sure but since most animals seem to have close to a 50/50 gender split for every laying hen born there is a rooster and for every milk cow there is a bull.
      I do eat a limited amount of meat so I do not have a big problem with this and I am not trying to make you feel bad but you asked.

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    35. Re:There are enough security tools available... by 123abc987 · · Score: 1

      that's real cute, hahahahaha.

      (I've been away, that's why I'm replying to late)

  6. Browser Clutter by sintacks · · Score: 0

    thank god for another piece of software that will clog up simple minded users that can't figure out what's going on on the intarweb. they should think of releasing a tool that rids one of these crappy browser toolbars :/ /me shakes his head

  7. Petname toolbar by SiliconEntity · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd also like to remind people about the Petname Toolbar from Tyler Close, which uses capability-security concepts.

    When you visit your bank site for the first time, you enter your own chosen "pet name" for the bank, which is like a nickname. Then when you (supposedly) visit the bank again via clicking on a link, it will show you the same pet name if it is the same site. If it is a phishing site you will see a glaring indication that the site is new and not one you have previously visited and trusted. This way you will know when you are at the site that you should be at.

    It is a simple concept and doesn't rely on any humongous database created by external users. For Firefox, available today!

    1. Re:Petname toolbar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a person is too stupid to realize whether or not they're logging into THEIR bank or not, perhaps they don't deserve the privilege of online banking.

    2. Re:Petname toolbar by smashin234 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "If a person is too stupid to realize whether or not they're logging into THEIR bank or not, perhaps they don't deserve the privilege of online banking"

      The scam that is scary is the bank of america scam where a bunch of miscreants copied the BOA website and had anyone typing in varieties of bankofamerica.com (I think one of them was bankofanerica.com ...)directed to their copy of the BOA website. (Identicle to the BOA website BTW)

      I am sure even you occasionally mistypes, and if you were not paying attention, you would enter you password into the wrong site.

      Of course, I don't use online banking, but for someone who does, I can't see how you could keep that from happening without being extremly careful.

      A plugin like mentioned would be very useful in this regard.

    3. Re:Petname toolbar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that case, BOA should've done what Verizon did a couple years back: Register every possible domain that has a relevance to verizon.com. Remember verizonreallyreallysucks.com?

    4. Re:Petname toolbar by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2, Informative

      If a person is too stupid to realize whether or not they're logging into THEIR bank or not, perhaps they don't deserve the privilege of online banking.
      DNS spoofing
      Spyware host file poisoning.
      Spyware taking over your entire browser, pointing you to sites you don't want.
      IE bug where what you see in address bar is not the site you're on.

      Phishing is a comlicated problem with multiple vectors. Saying that a user that doesn't know all vectors at every given time is stupid is unwarranted.

    5. Re:Petname toolbar by Ochu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And anyone computer-savvy enough to be using firefox, downloading addons, making pet names, and then remembering to check won't be caught by a pisher anyway...

    6. Re:Petname toolbar by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I have a BOOKMARK to my bank, so I can just click on that and be safe.

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      Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
    7. Re:Petname toolbar by vigour · · Score: 1

      Of course, I don't use online banking, but for someone who does, I can't see how you could keep that from happening without being extremly careful. Just bookmark the main login page, no typo worries then......

    8. Re:Petname toolbar by ryen · · Score: 1

      > And anyone computer-savvy enough to be using firefox
      Computer-savvy? At UIC, firefox is the default browser on all student lab machines. Most users dont even realize any difference between Firefox/IE, let alone know which one they're using. So obviously you dont have to be computer savvy to use firefox.

    9. Re:Petname toolbar by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
      Wrong, you are NOT safe. Your bookmark gets looked up at a DNS server.

      If the DNS server gets comprimised, then EVERYONE goes to the wrong page, unless you type in the IP address like this: 125.001.001.

      And guess what, there are DAILY attempts to comprimise the DNS servers. Do you want to bet that none of them are from phishers?

      Maybe we are lucky and they are just crackers looking to switch the Buckingham Palace's home page with Sein Finn.

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    10. Re:Petname toolbar by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Well, they'd have to compromise both DNS and the SSL certificate (online banking is all with SSL).

      Very few criminal organizations could pull that off.

      Heck, the only people who could pull that off are NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. And if they are after you, you are in a world of hurt anyway.

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    11. Re:Petname toolbar by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

      They don't have to compromise the SSL certificate - and even if they did, so what? Most people ignore that warning message - I have gotten in 5 times and each time it turned out to be a false alarm. If they want those kinds of warning to be taken seriously, they need something like a Blue Screen of Death, not a pop up window that scumbag advertisers use (Note, I am not saying that all advertisers are scum, just the ones that use pop ups)

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    12. Re:Petname toolbar by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Ignoring an SSL warning when you are on an SSL enabled bugzilla or somesuch is one thing.

      Ignoring it on your bank's site is quite another. Even if it is just a misconfig, that speaks very poorly of their competence and hence security.

      SSL warning on connecting to my bank means I don't login - I call the Online Banking or security department.

      A big hospital here in Vegas just got hacked. No one is safe.

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  8. In the spirit of the Nietzche/God quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot is dead
    -Netcraft

    Netcraft is Slashdotted
    -Death

    (Stupid filters can't handle a well formatted joke...)

  9. Wouldn't it be ironic... by $$CALL+NOW · · Score: 5, Funny

    if this was an imitation site tricking visitors into installing a malicious "toolbar" ?

    1. Re:Wouldn't it be ironic... by Winckle · · Score: 1

      Oh how we would laug[NO CARRIER]

  10. Now if only I could get my people to use firefox by 1967mustangman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work as a sysadmin and I recently sent out an e-mail about phishing just as a general warning. As I was walking around to the other offices one of my co-workers said she wished I had sent that out a week ago and that she had just recently been phished. I got htat from two other people in the course of my rounds (in an org of less than 50). Now if only I could get my people to adopt firefox........ They could join in the battle rather than being duped.

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  11. how well does this actually work by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Insightful

    no I havent tried it (don't really use phishing sites much myself ;)

    but "Toolbar users have submitted more than 5,600 phishing sites"

    aren't these phishing sites usually up for only a short time, like a couple days, before they get shut down? I would think that most the sites on the 'bad list' would be shut down by the time a user gets around to updating thier 'bad list' for their toolbar.

    just a guess.

    1. Re:how well does this actually work by MrLint · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I researched and reported a phishing site on someone host and the owner of the domain actually thanked me. It was weird.

    2. Re:how well does this actually work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it works horribly on windows and firefox. It blocked Slashdot.org and the Netcraft sites to report a misblocked URL. Needless to say I deinstalled it about 2 minutes after I installed it.

    3. Re:how well does this actually work by Nimey · · Score: 1

      On the other end of the scale, there once was (and for all I know may still be) a Yahoo phishing site hosted on AOL. In spite of several complaints from me, AOL never did anything about it.

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  12. First Impressions by DanCentury · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wasn't too happy with it. I uninstalled it an hour or so after installing it.

    The anti-phishing feature ID'd just about every site I visited as a threat. In some cases it might be looking at images hosted on a different host, but I think it was choking on xhtml namespaces as well. I need to reinstall it too figure this out.

    I seems to add about 10-15 seconds to Firefox's start up time. I observed the same issue with the IE version. This was enough to uninstall the toolbar from both browsers.

    I value Netcraft's services, but I think I'll go directly to their site instead.

    1. Re:First Impressions by DanCentury · · Score: 1

      Okay: I tested it again. It isn't choking on namespaces. The problem might be that I'm looking at a page on my local intranet, and so it doesn't know what to make of it.

      Anyway...

    2. Re:First Impressions by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      I've noticed slow-down problems with the Netcraft Toolbar for IE, as well as A9 for Firefox. A9 causes a pause as I switch from one tab to another, as well as appearing to choke on https pages. Has anyone else experienced (or solved) this problem?

  13. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the comment about a fool and their money? Oh yeah, they're easily parted.

  14. SURBL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now could someone please add these 5600 sites to a new surbl zone?

    - dhawal

  15. i wonder by phntm · · Score: 0

    how long will it take for netcraft to publish an article about it's downtime due to /.

  16. Spoofstick by gyanesh · · Score: 0

    And what about spoofstick

    1. Re:Spoofstick by dlichterman · · Score: 1

      yeah spoofstick is really nice since it just puts the URL of the site or IP or whatever you are really on

  17. What the toolbar thinks of Slashdot... by ReverendLoki · · Score: 1
    Installed this toolbar, then visited Slashdot, ad received:

    "The page you are trying to visit is using Cross-Site Scripting (XSS). This is a technique commonly used in phishing attacks."
    ...
    "If this is a mistake, please report it using the "Report Incorrect Blocked URL" in the Netcraft Menu."

    Of course, now it's starting to look like the reporting site is becoming /.ed, so of course that fails...

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  18. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Avoiding phishing is more about common sense than what web browser you are using. People can still be phished by the use of Firefox.

  19. Netcraft toolbar function via javascript bookmark by Ized · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Eventough the toolbar gives some additional features, the main function of seeing the site's "report" can be done in any browser with a mere javascript bookmarklet. This example bookmarklet was available since last January.

  20. Now if only I could get my people to use Firefox by ndansmith · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Use the same tactics as the Phishers to dupe your fellow employees to use Firefox:

    1. Remove the IE shortcut from the desktop
    2. Add a Firefox shortcut to the desktop
    3. Rename said shortcut "Internet Explorer"
    4. Change icon of said shortcut to the blue "E"
    5. Download and install a Firefox theme which emulates the look and feel of IE.

    And there you have it! You have adapted the malicious tactics of Phishers to keep your people safe from Phishers.

  21. It breaks tabbed browsing. by topher1kenobe · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to aebrahim's head it does some really bad things to tabbed browsing.

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    1. Re:It breaks tabbed browsing. by BrynM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Confirmed, at least for the 20 minutes the toolbar was installed for me. Netcraft has a lot more porting to do to get a FF version of the toolbar working right. The toolbar doesn't appear to be aware of tabs itself and the other open tabs stopped updating the address bar when they are switched to. FYI: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 - Already submitted to Netcraft.

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    2. Re:It breaks tabbed browsing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox's tabs were already broken.

  22. Dude, all they did was add feedback to xkill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, to allow for confirmation and all.

  23. This looks like.. by hass · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A result of all the nagging /.ers that read this post --> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/02/18 8202&tid=158&tid=172&tid=95 I was one of the probably hundreds of people that e-mailed asking for a Firefox extension.

  24. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by 1967mustangman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, That would work until they went to Yahoo Games or some other site like that wich will popup and say You must have Internet Explorer 4.5 or better. Then I get a call to come fix their games.

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  25. Mozilla on FreeBSD confirms by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 3, Funny

    Netcraft is dying....

  26. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 3, Funny

    at which point you show them the clause in the employment contract that says "our computers are only avaliable for you to do actual work on", then go to slashdot and post about it.

  27. Needed? by Ochu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Haven't we established that this doesnt work anyway? I could swear that was what the last story on this was. Something about how every phisher will just make several sites anyway, and the massive problems with false positves... It's only real purpose is the nice feeling you get from reporting it, like spam.

  28. buggy as hell ... every page i go to phishes! by Khopesh · · Score: 1

    Even the reporting page appears to have Cross-Site Scripting (XSS). Here's a screenshot as proof.

    hmm... i think i just reported myself as a phisher by following my own link...

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  29. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by 1967mustangman · · Score: 1

    Ironically since it is a baseball company and they have very little to do during the winter I actually had the VP set me looking for a better vid card so he could play Counter Strike. Gaming is rampant during the off season

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  30. Fix the problem... by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

    It'll cost you your bandwidth, but it's not as much a threat to your geek identity... The lad vampire DOS's phishing and fake bank sites.

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  31. BSD confirms Netcraft is dead by daniel23 · · Score: 1


    well, at least toolbar.netcraft.com is

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  32. Vegetarians: The Other White Meat! by kaladorn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Tastier? I think that would be hard to substantiate objectively.

    I'd say with vast array of available animal protein out there (Bison, Ostrich, Gator, Cow, Pig, a huge variety of Fish (Cod, Halibut, Trout, Herring, Sardine, Mackerel, Talapia, Swordfish, Marlin, Tuna, Salmon, etc), other Aquatic life (Shrimp, Scallops, Lobster, Crab, Oysters, Octopus, etc), and various birds (Turkey, Chicken, Duck, Goose, Pheasant, Quail, etc)), there is little doubt that with proper preparation, you can have a vast variety of flavours. Yes, you can also have a vast variety of vegetable flavours (if they are prepared right), but if you think Vegetarian is tastier, it is either a personal preference or a very limited exposure to the range of animal-related meal items. Being an omnivore and fairly well travelled food-wise, I've sampled great vegetarian and carnivore dishes and couldn't imagine trying to say which was 'tastier'.

    As for healthy, vegetarian diets have some shortcomings. I've actually had one friend who was a Vegan ordered by her doctor to start eating meat again despite her best efforts to procure all the required nutrients and vital vitamins elsewhere. If I recall, one of the B complex vitamins was fairly hard to come by sufficiently without eating meat, despite various supplementations during any given year.

    Keep in mind as well that herbivores rule few food chains. Why? Because when worst comes to worst, an omnivore can eat plants *and* animals. A vegetarian that is rigidly so can only eat one out of two. The ominvores natural advantage is he can actually eat the vegetarians. Generally, the omnivore also recieves the benefit of concentration of food value up the food chain that predators do - the lower creatures in the chain (often herbivores) do a lot of the work concentrating food value and the predator reaps the reward.

    Or put another way, when you look at a salad, you don't see food, you see what food eats.

    We can all only make our own choices, but my ancestors worked for many millions of years to get to the top of the food chain, and that involved eating meat. I'm not about to dishonour that huge amount of effort and sacrifice :)

    To each his own, just keep in mind that when the end comes, one camp will be walking rations for the other.... :)

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    1. Re:Vegetarians: The Other White Meat! by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      ...ominvores natural advantage is he can actually eat the vegetarians...

      I never thought of that! I wonder how they taste?

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    2. Re:Vegetarians: The Other White Meat! by rsynnott · · Score: 1

      B12 was until recently almost exclusively animal-derived. Modern biotech has changed that in the last few years tho. And you're dead wrong about 'concentration' of food, btw. Sure, eating grass would be inefficient; we're not geared up for it. But eating protein-rich vegetable-matter is just as efficient as bits of cow, from the human's point of view, and many times more efficient from a total energy wasteage point of view; for every 100 joules that go into the cow you get less than a joule out. (Not a vegetarian myself, btw, but felt this required comment). And overindulgence in meat is one of the major reasons that America is now the land of the wobble-bottom ;) Eating meat on a regular basis for the majority of people is quite a new thing. Those who eat members of their own species tend to die horribly, btw ;)(Kuru)

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    3. Re:Vegetarians: The Other White Meat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little like vegans, but the meat's less stringy.

    4. Re:Vegetarians: The Other White Meat! by kaladorn · · Score: 1

      The comment about food concentration isn't wrong (you still gain the benefit of food concentration) so much as it is incomplete. You are right - eating a carefully managed vegetarian diet can supply adequate amounts of protein and it may be more energy efficient.

      And humans (as I understand) aren't terribly nutritious from the point of view of a good diet (not to mention the awkward social ramifications of cannibalism).

      OTOH, your conclusion about excessive meat consumption I find much more dubious. I think that has a lot more to do with every sauce, condiment, or the like being loaded with both sugars and fats. Look at the amount of soda, cookies, potato chips, etc. consumed - that probably has more to do with obesity than meat consumption.

      FWIW, as a Canuck, whenever I travel to the US, I'm overwhelmed by portion sizes. A 'large' meal up here is the regular size south of the border. If I make the mistake of ordering a larger meal down south, I can't finish it. So I think vast portion sizes (which one then becomes accustomed to) have a lot to do with that issue too.

      And of course, sedimentary lifestyles don't help either....

      So although meat consumption may not be energy efficient, ruminants may produce lots of greenhouse gases, etc. and so forth, meat is probably not the bane of our existence foodwise (as far as obesity goes). I think it falls far behind the other causes I've cited.

      And besides, I just plain enjoy a good flame grilled hamburger with a nice chunk of sharp cheddar, some grilled onions, some ketchup, dijon mustard, dill relish or a dill pickle, a nice crisp lettuce leaf, and a juicy tomato slab. That's just about Nirvana, to my thinking.(shrug)

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  33. Re:Let's get this out of the way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80040e37'

  34. Alternate solution: by deacon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Read your email in pine. No links. No images. No web-bugs.

    Press "h" on the keyboard to see the raw html of html email, including all the headers.

    It is very easy to spot fake emails once pine strips off all the glitzy fluff, and you look at the header of any emails that pass initial inspection.

    1. Re:Alternate solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..but then you have to use pine

  35. Functionality is buried in Advertising by steelrain · · Score: 1

    In the spirit of disclosure, I am affilliated with http://www.fraudeliminator.com/ but I can't help but point out that 80% of Netcraft's toolbar is devoted to promoting themselves and has nothing to do with preventing phishing. They also suggested that costco.com was a phishing site. I admit I like to fish around for new tools and toys there, but so far I got what I paid for. :)

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  36. why are they using a toolbar by krunk4ever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't really know why netcraft needs to be in the form of a toolbar. Why can't it be like AdBlock and put a small icon in lower right corner. I mean, it's not like a search engine where you actually need to have much intereaction with it.

    instead i suggest that they have a small icon on the lower right corner as suggested before. when the user is trying to access a known phishing site, either pop up a error box asking if user would like to continue, or redirect them to warning page. to submit phising sites to netcraft, you can easily add netcraft menu on the right click (like how you blocking ads in adblock works) and within that menu, you can submit the site.

    1. Re:why are they using a toolbar by GraemeDonaldson · · Score: 1

      You do realise that you can modify a Firefox extension/toolbar to suit your preferences, right?

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  37. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by greenegg77 · · Score: 1

    You guys hiring? :D

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  38. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do realize that in the friggin summary it mentioned this was out for IE first. I'm all for firefox support, but at least get your facts straight.

  39. Re:Let's get this out of the way... by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

    Netcraft confirms SQL is dead.

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  40. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

    Is posting to Slashdot considered actual work?

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  41. Warning: bad software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This software is bad in a few different ways.

    1. It delays/slows the opening of Firefox, particularly if you are behind a secure firewall because it asks for you password before Firefox even starts.

    2. It puts two huge tabs on a 'toolbar' that wastes valuable screenspace. The tabs do nothing. The first one, labelled Netcraft, just drops down a menu to let you select the 'about' dialog'. The second, labelled 'Services' does nothing at all when I click on it.

    I am trying this in FF 1.0.4.

    This software is being deleted - right NOW

  42. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by noamsml · · Score: 1

    technically, work is defined a exerting a certain force over a certain distance. since you are exerting a force on your keys for the distance it take till the key is pushed, the answer is yes, you are doing work.

  43. spammed by netcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once sent an e-mail to their webmaster about something unrelated and got added to their announcement list. Sheesh. They ought to make a plugin that stops those annoying e-mails.

  44. EarthLink's Toolbar has done this for a year+ by Spittoon · · Score: 1

    EarthLink's Toolbar contains a module called ScamBlocker, which uses heuristic rules AND a white list AND a server-based black list to help you identify and avoid phisher sites. It's free, and it works even if you hide the toolbar in your browser.

    http://www.earthlink.net/software/free/toolbar/

  45. What? Are you saying that these aren't useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  46. Why not just Tool Icons? by CatMan79 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm so sick of entire damned toolbars. Why not just a nice little Tool Icon that displays a menu when clicked on? Something neat like the RSS bookmarks in Firefox?

  47. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes it is... keeping yourself updated is a part of any geek's work.

  48. Crying wolf? by RexDart · · Score: 1

    I installed the Netcraft toolbar and promptly uninstalled it. Every single site I visited caused a popup warning about cross-site scripting... this included CNN.com, a couple of webcomics and my company's internal web sites. What's the use of an application that flags EVERY web site as potentially hostile? I can be paranoid on my own, thank you.

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  49. What to do when you're bored? Fish the phishers! by BetaJim · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a guilty pleasure, and I want to share it with everyone here. ;)

    I look forward to receiving a phishing email. In the past I would just delete the message, but no more! I always visit their web site and give all the information I can (all the info. I can make up that is!) I try my best the make the info look legit; the credit card, bank routing numbers, name, and address, everything!

    What better way to bring attention to these crooks than to have them try to access fraudulent accounts? I guess they may have a way to filter out the bogus info, but I have fun making their work more difficult. ;)

    Lately, I noticed that the phishers web pages contain some javascript code to checksum the credit card numbers. This was a downer, until I d/l'ed a CC number generator! Oh, now my fun could continue. I hope that more people will take up my pastime.

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  50. It's nice to see the conversion effort being made by Solr_Flare · · Score: 1

    Even if the program is kind of meh. The more tools floating around to stop this stuff the better.

    Sure, many firefox users are already careful enough browsers that they don't stumble into bad stuff often, but as another post put it, there are a lot who aren't and tools like these help protect them.

    A classic example? 2 months ago my friend's computer was so hosed by spyware and spam that he had me reformat it. I had already done this for him 4 times in the past so this time I was determined to protect him from himself!

    4 hours of careful implementation later I had done it. Using a combination of free software from avg to spybot to firefox to personal firewalls to windows auto-update to a router to act as a hardware firewall, I set him up with every bit of automated protection I could.

    He lost about 10% max performance from it all. But, he never noticed the difference because before hand his computer was so riddled with spyware and viruses that he was barely getting 50% performance.

    End result? I visited him yesterday for the first time in 2 months. Every piece of software on his computer was updated, his system was totally clean, and get this, he was learning how to use the software himself and becoming a knowledgable computer user because he could be safely productive on his machine. Mission accomplished! Thats what this sort of software is designed for. It isn't for us slashdotters, its for us slashdotters to use to help protect others. And the more options we get, the better.

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  51. Re:What to do when you're bored? Fish the phishers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah that is until you unintentionally enter a real account number and someone somewhere is the victim... perhaps one of those people out there that you wanted to help you in your quest generates your CC or bank account number an end up with no money in your account or a maxed out CC.... moron!

  52. Re:What to do when you're bored? Fish the phishers by BetaJim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yeah that is until you unintentionally enter a real account number and someone somewhere is the victim... perhaps one of those people out there that you wanted to help you in your quest generates your CC or bank account number an end up with no money in your account or a maxed out CC.... moron!

    I guess you don't know much about bank accounts or credit cards. What I'm doing is very safe. The likelihood of submitting a valid credit card number, expiration date, and verification number is very small. Especially, when you include an account holder name! Please get a clue.

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  53. Yet-Another-Toolbar by VStrider · · Score: 1

    I have the bookmarks toolbar, the google toolbar, the yahoo toolbar, the spoofstick toolbar, the netcraft toolbar, the web developer toolbar, the advanced navigation toolbar, and the super duper 1337 toolbar.I wanted some more toolbars, I saw some good ones recently...I got no space left for web browsing, but who needs that when I got my toolbars.

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  54. A real anti-phishing, anti-spoofing toolbar by naasking · · Score: 1
    Waterken Petname Tool
    Need help avoiding phishing and spoofing attacks? The petname tool can help you keep it all straight by clearly distinguishing your online relationships.

    Using the petname tool, you can save a reminder note about a relationship you have with a site. The petname tool will then automatically display this reminder note every time you visit the site. After following a hyperlink, you need only check that the expected reminder note is being displayed. If so, you can be sure you are using the same site you have in the past.

    If you're interested in the rationale behind it, read the whitepaper. No dependence on/vulnerability to any centralized 'authority' to decide what constitutes a 'malicious site'.
  55. Firefox?? by goldfndr · · Score: 1

    So... it's available for Firefox? You did read the story title, yes?

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  56. Re:Warning: bad software by tomleonard · · Score: 1

    I agree. Installed it, tried it, saw that it was basically an ad, uninstalled it,. I guess I'll simply add etcraft to the list of companies I don't do business with.

  57. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

    Is posting to Slashdot considered actual work?

    Depends, you can always explain to your boss that slashdot is just a tech knowledge exchange website (like a knowledge base!). Then again, if he(or she) actually reads slashdot the ruse would be up.

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  58. real estate: bar not stackable on other bars by mcn · · Score: 1

    the bar reduces my screen real estate further. the problem with bars in netscape/mozilla/firefox is that the bar cannot be shifted like in IE, so that i can have >= 2 partial bars stacked in one row.

    i am no programmer, and i know the development platform or widget or whatever you call it that is used in mozilla is different than in IE. but i would like the bars in mozilla/firefox that are movable and stackable.... one menu bar, one back/forward bar, and one bookmark/link bar is the maximum i can stand.

  59. Re:What to do when you're bored? Fish the phishers by cjsnell · · Score: 1

    Here, have a ball. Try the script in my .sig.

  60. Toolbar is a big privacy hole by billstewart · · Score: 1
    If you go read the toolbar's FAQs and privacy policies, they collect two kinds of information for every lookup: full name of website, and hash of full URL. They say they'll be well-behaved with the information, but they will disclose it to cops, lawsuits, and any corporate successors (e.g. if somebody buys them, they get the whole database with no obligation to protect policies.) So if you're surfing at www.your-competitor.com, and your competitor sues you, they can find out that you've been at their site by asking Netcraft. They can't tell that you were looking at http://www.competitor.com/secretproject/file3.htm, but they do get hashes so they can confirm guesses.

    No Thanks.

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  61. Re:Now if only I could get my people to use Firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shhh!!

    Don't let out the secret!

  62. toolbar site overload - every page is a phisher by Khopesh · · Score: 1
    Even the reporting page appears to have Cross-Site Scripting (XSS). Here's a screenshot as proof.

    So I sent in a bug report at the same time as the parent post and got a response just now:
    Thanks for the report.

    This was caused by an error in the toolbar which only became apparent if the toolbar server was overloaded, which is exactly what happened when firefox version was released.

    We have made a new release which should fix this problem. Could you please try Tools Menu -> Extensions, select the Toolbar and click on Update and see if the problem still happens?

    Please let us know if you have any further problems.
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