"The problem for students like Milla Muller, 25, is that they sign legal contracts to pay back loans, no matter how bad a school turns out to be. Muller's efforts to get her $7,500 loan from Sallie Mae Financial forgiven have been unsuccessful.
Muller was one of about 150 students enrolled at Xintra Institute of Technology in Quincy, Mass. The school was stripped of its license in April for failure to comply with state regulations. It filed for bankruptcy in August, without giving students any notice.
"Sallie Mae has absolutely no recourse for this at all," said Muller, who now pays $189 a month for classes she didn't take."
I'm guessing a lot of people don't have the cash reserves to simply pay off the outstanding balance when it became clear that the school wouldn't be around for four years. So they are paying a four-year loan.
Heh, glad to see the Slashdot model of quickly gaining 10 karma so beautifully executed.
Step One: Don't read article. Question the rationale of whatever is being discussed. Belittle it, preferably by pointing out some blatantly obvious hole. Mods like these comments because they're in really quickly and it seems like a good question.
Step Two: Read article and discover it addresses your obvious flaw.
Step Three: Post to Slashdot apologizing for your error. Cite relevant portions of article; this makes you look very credible. Mods are impressed with your honesty.
Step Four: You're now a karma whore! Redeem karma points for exciting Slashdot merchandise.
Yeah, they put us under the slave shield, but we have that crappy moon base which needs materials to help upgrade that Precursor ship (which was supposedly so awesome but seemed light years behind every other ship)
Of course I watch TV. Probably an hour or two a day...generally watch syndicated Simpsons if I'm home, and leave it on during homework. What's the problem?
And then, of course, sports.
Ever notice only pompous assholes who think they're somehow above entertainment give a shit about what other people do in their free time?
When the public comes to their senses and starts giving up television for something a lot more useful (hah! as if!)
This is like when people act all smart and scoff at religion, as if any intellectual person could possibly believe in God! (Ignoring the fact that many people in academia are followers of a religion.)
It's the same with sports on TV. Now I agree with you that far too many people watch way too much TV, but it's not like entertainment doesn't have a place. I love nothing more than unwinding on a Sunday afternoon by watching the Steelers...although watching them this year has hardly been relaxing.
Life is all about balance, and the perception that you can't watch sports and be intelligent is really irritating.
Exclusive of any other effort? No. Absolutely not.
Now, if some of you monkeys decide you're big enough to address the root cause of all this terrorism, and then, as a complement, work on new technology to thwart further acts of violence, then yeah, that would be good.
But to continue to place all our faith in technology without understanding why people want to kill us? That's stupid.
Are you stupid?
How the hell does this garbage get modded up? Exclusive of any other effort? You didn't make that point in the parent. You simply stated that we should accept retaliation, and that NOTHING can be done about it since the country needs to atone for the past. Using that line of logic, we're fucked no matter WHAT we do--as you said--so we might as well develop a counter technology, no? Let me note it again for you:
"The horrible, brutal truth of the matter is that our very best course out of all of this is to not only cease and desist from fucking over other people, but to understand as well that because we've spent so many years fucking over all these other people in all these other nations that we're due all kinds of grief in the years to come no matter what we due today."
On one hand, you say we should accept and expect attacks. Yet, if we study the causes of them, won't they still do it anyway? These are irreconcilable, and that is one of many reasons I called your original point inane.
You want to know why people want to kill us or do harm? Or why the USA and every other nation in the world has done it in the past? Because people are assholes, as richly evidenced by your invective. Let's say I'm assaulted on the street (a growing problem at my college). Frankly, I don't give a fuck if my assualter was abused as a child. I don't give a fuck if he got fired from his job. You know what I do care about? Stopping him from doing it in the first place if possible, and then preventing it in the future. If, in conjunction with that, you want to study the reasons behind the attack, great, I'm all for that. I enjoy studying history, anthropological issues, and sociology. But I also realize that it's not going to do a damn thing, because people will continue to do evil things regardless.
Actually, the number is now 2,976, idiot. If you bothered keeping current with the news, you'd know that. And yes, ordinarily such a correction would count as picking nits, but the fact of the matter is that it's because so many of you skip reading international news that we're in this mess in the first place. You're too busy watching football or wrestling.
Did the victims of 9/11 deserve it? No more than any of the rest of us did. We all choose to remain ignorant of the evil deeds committed by our government, so in a very real sense, yes, we are responsible.
Only idiots conclude anything from their ability of doing a quick search of Yahoo news. I went to the quickest website that listed the victims. Anyone who misses an update on a minor 9/11 correction is automatically an idiot? Okay, sure. I don't have the time to check every bit of news. I don't even really know why I'm posting on/. at 4 AM when I have more work to do.
And I know we go through this a *million* times whenever small people like yourself get involved in semantics, but learn the difference between the possessive form of it and its (like that) contraction. Don't you find it the least bit interesting that the very thing you're criticizing people for you (basically being dicks) you do yourself?
Of course, I didn't say that. In fact, my council here was aimed at preventing such an occurance. And if you could a) read, and b) think, you'd understand that.
Thank you for letting your stupidity screw the rest of us over.
It's people like you that make me hope that hell really exists.
Obviously, you're incapable of remembering what you typed about
So let me get this straight: Developing new technology won't help, because that was the problem in the first place. However, even if we "act like angels" and don't do anything for here on out, we're still screwed because (in your mind) it's okay for terrorists to murder us.
For sake of argument, let's accept your inane "solution" as true. Shouldn't we still try to at least develop countermeasures instead of "taking a kick in the balls"?
What are you, a feverish follower of Michael Moore that steadfastly believes the USA is the only nation to have ever done evil things? I can only hope you were kidding when you say that the we let some of our major cities be destroyed, then use the term "rational leadership" in the next paragraph. Yeah, accepting a nuclear destruction is perfectly rational.
Saw this CNN article today about a kid in England who claims his computer was hijacked and used to perform attacks without his knowledge. Can you even imagine the uproar and lawsuits that will happen if people start getting charged for songs from wireless leechers? Hell, I worked in a grocery store when I was in high school and people bitched about pennies. If something like this ever went through, it'd be a total mess.
1) Those 890,000 signatures cost Issa $2M of his own fortune to collect. A Poor Republican wouldn't have been able to get them.
Georgy herself points out Dean as an example of the cream rising to the top despite perceived obstacles. She can't then turn around and say funding is inherently unfair and keeps worthy candidates down unless they have massive corporate backing.
2) If a 40% approval rating is all it takes to vote a leader out of office with Repulicans' blessing, maybe we'll be seeing a Pataki recall campaign sometime soon?
It's not just Republicans who want Davis out. And even if it were, if the people of California show up and vote yes on the recall, then who cares about party lines? Even if Republicans DID buy the recall--and I don't believe they did--if the masses truly want him in, they'd recognize this and vote to keep Davis.
Regarding Pataki, I don't think NY has a recall law on the books. California is unique in that regard, isn't it? I could be wrong...IANAL.
Ideally, I'd like to get rid of the illegal immigrants sapping our systems, and then force the poor overcrowded prisoners into labor. It's no different than chain-gang prisoners cleaning up the highway.
At least in this case though, there was/are a lot of problems with immigrants using state services, and this was a response to that. The proposition was pretty heavily publicized, it seems likely it was the inspiration behind the Simpsons "Prop 10" (or whatever it was) episode.
You're right, that's the big issue here: Their children are citizens and are free to leech off taxpayers, often without providing anything in return.
But the parent is wrong in that they "stay under the radar". Immigration is such a huge problem that states like Texas and California don't even bother enforcing it anymore. The immigrants do in fact use state services, as evidenced by today's New York Times article about Arnold's candidacy:
"Mr. Torres reminded voters on "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos that Mr. Schwarzenegger had once stumped for Mr. Wilson, the sponsor of Proposition 187, a successful ballot initiative barring illegal immigrants from receiving state services. The measure was eventually struck down in state appellate court."
Obviously there is no need for a bill banning the existence of a problem that supposedly doesn't exist, right?
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Not quite. From the article:
"The problem for students like Milla Muller, 25, is that they sign legal contracts to pay back loans, no matter how bad a school turns out to be. Muller's efforts to get her $7,500 loan from Sallie Mae Financial forgiven have been unsuccessful.
Muller was one of about 150 students enrolled at Xintra Institute of Technology in Quincy, Mass. The school was stripped of its license in April for failure to comply with state regulations. It filed for bankruptcy in August, without giving students any notice.
"Sallie Mae has absolutely no recourse for this at all," said Muller, who now pays $189 a month for classes she didn't take."
I'm guessing a lot of people don't have the cash reserves to simply pay off the outstanding balance when it became clear that the school wouldn't be around for four years. So they are paying a four-year loan.
FWIW yes I read that you said we have legal mechanisms and that IS the only reason it's property, but how else would you regard trade secrets?
I was under the impression that information is in fact defined as property under trade secret law.
Could be mistaken, though.
Yeah, it was Lance Murdock. Electric eels were there too :)
Oh, I was just having fun...it's more a moderator thing :) I love when someone's "Me too!" post gets modded up more than the parent.
Heh, glad to see the Slashdot model of quickly gaining 10 karma so beautifully executed.
Step One: Don't read article. Question the rationale of whatever is being discussed. Belittle it, preferably by pointing out some blatantly obvious hole. Mods like these comments because they're in really quickly and it seems like a good question.
Step Two: Read article and discover it addresses your obvious flaw.
Step Three: Post to Slashdot apologizing for your error. Cite relevant portions of article; this makes you look very credible. Mods are impressed with your honesty.
Step Four: You're now a karma whore! Redeem karma points for exciting Slashdot merchandise.
Ahh, Blex's page...that brought back memories.
You were close on the URL. His site was at user.cybrzn.com. Here's the link to the archived page:
Blex's Page of Good MP3 archive
Yeah, they put us under the slave shield, but we have that crappy moon base which needs materials to help upgrade that Precursor ship (which was supposedly so awesome but seemed light years behind every other ship)
We'll have no choice once the Ur-Quan enslave our world and force us to mine planets to make RU. So we better get to work on this.
Of course I watch TV. Probably an hour or two a day...generally watch syndicated Simpsons if I'm home, and leave it on during homework. What's the problem?
And then, of course, sports.
Ever notice only pompous assholes who think they're somehow above entertainment give a shit about what other people do in their free time?
When the public comes to their senses and starts giving up television for something a lot more useful (hah! as if!)
This is like when people act all smart and scoff at religion, as if any intellectual person could possibly believe in God! (Ignoring the fact that many people in academia are followers of a religion.)
It's the same with sports on TV. Now I agree with you that far too many people watch way too much TV, but it's not like entertainment doesn't have a place. I love nothing more than unwinding on a Sunday afternoon by watching the Steelers...although watching them this year has hardly been relaxing.
Life is all about balance, and the perception that you can't watch sports and be intelligent is really irritating.
Exclusive of any other effort? No. Absolutely not.
Now, if some of you monkeys decide you're big enough to address the root cause of all this terrorism, and then, as a complement, work on new technology to thwart further acts of violence, then yeah, that would be good.
But to continue to place all our faith in technology without understanding why people want to kill us? That's stupid.
Are you stupid?
How the hell does this garbage get modded up? Exclusive of any other effort? You didn't make that point in the parent. You simply stated that we should accept retaliation, and that NOTHING can be done about it since the country needs to atone for the past. Using that line of logic, we're fucked no matter WHAT we do--as you said--so we might as well develop a counter technology, no? Let me note it again for you:
"The horrible, brutal truth of the matter is that our very best course out of all of this is to not only cease and desist from fucking over other people, but to understand as well that because we've spent so many years fucking over all these other people in all these other nations that we're due all kinds of grief in the years to come no matter what we due today."
On one hand, you say we should accept and expect attacks. Yet, if we study the causes of them, won't they still do it anyway? These are irreconcilable, and that is one of many reasons I called your original point inane.
You want to know why people want to kill us or do harm? Or why the USA and every other nation in the world has done it in the past? Because people are assholes, as richly evidenced by your invective. Let's say I'm assaulted on the street (a growing problem at my college). Frankly, I don't give a fuck if my assualter was abused as a child. I don't give a fuck if he got fired from his job. You know what I do care about? Stopping him from doing it in the first place if possible, and then preventing it in the future. If, in conjunction with that, you want to study the reasons behind the attack, great, I'm all for that. I enjoy studying history, anthropological issues, and sociology. But I also realize that it's not going to do a damn thing, because people will continue to do evil things regardless.
Actually, the number is now 2,976, idiot. If you bothered keeping current with the news, you'd know that. And yes, ordinarily such a correction would count as picking nits, but the fact of the matter is that it's because so many of you skip reading international news that we're in this mess in the first place. You're too busy watching football or wrestling.
Did the victims of 9/11 deserve it? No more than any of the rest of us did. We all choose to remain ignorant of the evil deeds committed by our government, so in a very real sense, yes, we are responsible.
Only idiots conclude anything from their ability of doing a quick search of Yahoo news. I went to the quickest website that listed the victims. Anyone who misses an update on a minor 9/11 correction is automatically an idiot? Okay, sure. I don't have the time to check every bit of news. I don't even really know why I'm posting on
And I know we go through this a *million* times whenever small people like yourself get involved in semantics, but learn the difference between the possessive form of it and its (like that) contraction. Don't you find it the least bit interesting that the very thing you're criticizing people for you (basically being dicks) you do yourself?
Of course, I didn't say that. In fact, my council here was aimed at preventing such an occurance. And if you could a) read, and b) think, you'd understand that.
Thank you for letting your stupidity screw the rest of us over.
It's people like you that make me hope that hell really exists.
Obviously, you're incapable of remembering what you typed about
So let me get this straight: Developing new technology won't help, because that was the problem in the first place. However, even if we "act like angels" and don't do anything for here on out, we're still screwed because (in your mind) it's okay for terrorists to murder us.
For sake of argument, let's accept your inane "solution" as true. Shouldn't we still try to at least develop countermeasures instead of "taking a kick in the balls"?
What are you, a feverish follower of Michael Moore that steadfastly believes the USA is the only nation to have ever done evil things? I can only hope you were kidding when you say that the we let some of our major cities be destroyed, then use the term "rational leadership" in the next paragraph. Yeah, accepting a nuclear destruction is perfectly rational.
By the way, here are 2,998 people who had nothing to do with America's "evil past".
Saw this CNN article today about a kid in England who claims his computer was hijacked and used to perform attacks without his knowledge. Can you even imagine the uproar and lawsuits that will happen if people start getting charged for songs from wireless leechers? Hell, I worked in a grocery store when I was in high school and people bitched about pennies. If something like this ever went through, it'd be a total mess.
On the other hand, there's all kinds of weird porn where you can pay to watch OTHERS pee. Pee porn is available on P2P I'm sure.
You missed the best one:
We beat Pitt.
1) Those 890,000 signatures cost Issa $2M of his own fortune to collect. A Poor Republican wouldn't have been able to get them.
Georgy herself points out Dean as an example of the cream rising to the top despite perceived obstacles. She can't then turn around and say funding is inherently unfair and keeps worthy candidates down unless they have massive corporate backing.
2) If a 40% approval rating is all it takes to vote a leader out of office with Repulicans' blessing, maybe we'll be seeing a Pataki recall campaign sometime soon?
It's not just Republicans who want Davis out. And even if it were, if the people of California show up and vote yes on the recall, then who cares about party lines? Even if Republicans DID buy the recall--and I don't believe they did--if the masses truly want him in, they'd recognize this and vote to keep Davis.
Regarding Pataki, I don't think NY has a recall law on the books. California is unique in that regard, isn't it? I could be wrong...IANAL.
Ideally, I'd like to get rid of the illegal immigrants sapping our systems, and then force the poor overcrowded prisoners into labor. It's no different than chain-gang prisoners cleaning up the highway.
Heh. True enough :)
At least in this case though, there was/are a lot of problems with immigrants using state services, and this was a response to that. The proposition was pretty heavily publicized, it seems likely it was the inspiration behind the Simpsons "Prop 10" (or whatever it was) episode.
Reminds me of one of my favorite Calvin and Hobbes (IMO the greatest comic strip ever) quotes:
"The world isn't fair, Calvin."
"I know. But why can't it ever be unfair in my favor?"
Yeah, let's adopt Georgy. It's time for the Natalie Portman fad to die. Long live Georgy!
Doh! I meant that I wanted to add to your statement about "staying under the radar"...
You're right, that's the big issue here: Their children are citizens and are free to leech off taxpayers, often without providing anything in return.
But the parent is wrong in that they "stay under the radar". Immigration is such a huge problem that states like Texas and California don't even bother enforcing it anymore. The immigrants do in fact use state services, as evidenced by today's
New York Times article about Arnold's candidacy:
"Mr. Torres reminded voters on "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos that Mr. Schwarzenegger had once stumped for Mr. Wilson, the sponsor of Proposition 187, a successful ballot initiative barring illegal immigrants from receiving state services. The measure was eventually struck down in state appellate court."
Obviously there is no need for a bill banning the existence of a problem that supposedly doesn't exist, right?
I meant the systems of TIA and all that that people were obviously referring in the parents.
Stop being an AC and at least post with your name if you're going to troll.
If they're so incompetent, how do they effectively set up such a fantastically complex system?