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The Simpsons Movie

girish writes "Eonline is reporting that, finally, after more than 10 years since Matt Groening said that a Simpsons film 'is way down the line', a movie based on The Simpsons is being made. It's still in its early stages and is being planned to be debuted in the summer or during Christmas time of 2006. The Simpsons has been on FOX for 15 seasons and averages 12.9 million viewers this season."

435 comments

  1. obligatory scene by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will there be any shark-jumping?

  2. I can only hope that by dr_steel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Conan O' Brian and some of the earlier writers are involved.

    1. Re:I can only hope that by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I read an article on this quite some time ago saying that they were going to pull in a few of the old writers. They also mentioned that the voice actors had been contracted for 3 movies. I thought it was posted on Slashdot, but I can't seem to find it. Either way, here's an interesting page that discusses some of the rumors and has a fairly insightful interview.

    2. Re:I can only hope that by Threni · · Score: 1

      >unchalleneged

      The irony is delicious.

    3. Re:I can only hope that by Viking+Coder · · Score: 1

      As Bart would say, "The ironing is delicious!"

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    4. Re:I can only hope that by Pond823 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That Conan, slayer, destroyer, king, theif, script writer. What a guy

    5. Re:I can only hope that by zzTotoro · · Score: 1

      I can only hope they bring back Brad Bird - The Iron Giant was one of the best of the 90's - and I feel pretty safe in stating that The Incredibles will be "incredible" (How many critics are going to use that pun - I think I should patent it now). Brad Bird is obviously a huge creative talent and it seems to me his work on the Incredibles should be finished pretty soon allowing him to step into this Simpsons movie. Of course Pixar might not want to let him go - I wouldn't either.

    6. Re:I can only hope that by galaxy300 · · Score: 1

      On that note, just imagine a Pixar version of the Simpsons. Now *that* would be incredible.

    7. Re:I can only hope that by SquadBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did anyone else see that movie Tron?

      http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F04.html

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    8. Re:I can only hope that by broken · · Score: 1

      And let's not forget Governor of Californya too. What a guy, indeed.

    9. Re:I can only hope that by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      Oh please it was a simple spelling mistake not a mistaken interpretation of the content of the parent's post.

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  3. I wonder who will play homer? by alenm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does anyone have a good candidate?

    1. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Michael Keaton? No? How about Val Kilmer? No? How about George Clooney?

    2. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by smellystudent · · Score: 2, Informative

      Erm... how many times do they have to say "animated film"?

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    3. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Um... Dan Castellaneta?

    4. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't exactly clear from the story here, or from the text. It was mentioned maybe one time in the Yahoo story.

    5. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by s20451 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course the "purists" will want Dennis Franz as Homer, because he already played Homer, and Neil Patrick Harris as Bart, for the same reason.

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    6. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by garcia · · Score: 3, Funny

      Come on... At least take it in stride. You know that Smithers would play a killer Bart.

    7. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ron Jeremy. Has to be Ron Jeremy.

    8. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Raagshinnah · · Score: 1

      bruce willis?

    9. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm.. Umm.. Like, really?

      Maybe you should stop taking taht ecomonomy class..

    10. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don S. Davis would be a nice homer.

    11. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by DjMd · · Score: 1

      Its been done (sort of)

      Episode 410 Stargate SG-1:
      O'Neill: I remember something. There's a man. He's bald and wears a short-sleeved shirt, and somehow he's very important to me. I think his name is Homer.

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    12. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by cyborch · · Score: 1

      which is why Don S. Davis should play Homer ;)

    13. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I attended a speech by one of the Simpsons' writers a couple of months ago and he actually touched on the subject of a live-action movie for the cartoon.

      He thought Vin Diesel(sp?) would be perfect.

    14. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by johnkoer · · Score: 1

      I think Smithers would be better at Milhouse, because according to Milhouses file he has flamboyantly homosexual tendencies.

      3G02

    15. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by garcia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      you obviously don't know the episode as to which I am referring:

      [3F19] "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish"

      Specifically:

      Then it's up to plan B...

      Nurse: Abraham Simpson, your family is here to visit you.
      Abe: Hot diggity, my family's come to visit me!
      [runs down the hall]
      Wait a minute... My family never comes to vi... Whoa!
      [a knife flies at his head]
      Vidal: [disguised as Homer] D'oh! Not again!
      Burns: [disguised as Marge] I can't take much more of your blundering numskullery.
      Smithers: [disguised as Bart] I'll be in the car, dudes.

    16. Re:I wonder who will play homer? by ejaw5 · · Score: 1

      Auditions for Homer will be held in the cafeteria tomorrow.

      [gasp, and hats fly to the ceiling]

      Oh, and the air conditioner will be fixed.

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  4. here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Funny
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    1. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      D'oh!

    2. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by garcia · · Score: 2, Funny

      maybe if this had been posted in 1997. Now the Simpsons aren't nearly as funny as they used to be. :(

      The animation and drawing has improved but the story lines have not.

      disclaimer: I watch the re-runs daily and new Simpson's weekly.

    3. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow.

      Note to self:

      Be a smartass more often.

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    4. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lets not forget the "The Simpsons were funnier when I watched them" and "I hope they use the earlier writers when the Simpsons were funnier"

      Alas, I am too late.

      FWIW, I think the Simpsons get funnier and funnier the older they get :-P

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    5. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Stop it, with the whos and the has and the GLAVIN!!!

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    6. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by lobsterGun · · Score: 0

      pure genius.

    7. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by noisehole · · Score: 2, Insightful

      overall, you're right, but s15e09 (FABF04) was a great one. its the one with snowball... havent seen that kind of humor for a while in the simpsons.

      for the ones that missed it, get it here as vcd or avi

    8. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by Enry · · Score: 1

      There was a dip in 2000/2001 where it was hurting. Since then, they've come back and then some (I told you I was a dude *thwack*)

    9. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by wwest4 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      the d-friendly mods are out in force today.

    10. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by Balthisar · · Score: 1

      I've gotta agree. I watch the reruns when TiVo thinks of grabbing them, and I still watch them every Sunday. But... I of course recognize the declining quality. But, even as I watched the Snowball II episode recently, I recognized it as being on par with the "classic" Simpons. It was fantastic!

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    11. Re:here comes the over-use of the "funny" mod by sxltrex · · Score: 1

      Do you need a ride home?

  5. Oh yeah by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to Reiss, Fox has wanted to do a Simpsons movie since President Bush (news - web sites)'s father was President Bush.

    Now, if they only get this quote in the movie somehow ;)

    1. Re:Oh yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they were to do that, it would mean that George W was re-elected. Perhaps it would be better if they said former President Bush's father was President Bush? ;-)

    2. Re:Oh yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it would be a lot better...

  6. OH YEAH! by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Let me just be the first to say, THANK GOD, a Simpsons movie! I hope it's the greatest animated film of all time.

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  7. Make it stop by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have the people who OK'd this movie actually SEEN and COMPARED newer episodes of Simpsons to ones that aired back in its' glory days?

    Jumped the shark a few seasons ago at least, as much as I hate to say it. This is one of those shows I wish they'd take off the air for its' own good.

    1. Re:Make it stop by j0217995 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I disagree, last week's episdoe with Marge telling the various history stories was classic. I thought it had everything some of the old episodes had and is perhaps the best so far this season. There were way too many good parts in the episode to list, but perhaps the greatest was when Lisa tried to grow a penis. I laughed so hard I was crying.

      While last season was pretty terrible, this season has improved. Hopefully it will continue

    2. Re: Make it stop by DaveOf9thKey · · Score: 1

      Maybe we'll get lucky and the movie will be the "final episode."

      Or maybe they'll turn the whole franchise into a series of flicks, like the X-Files should have done years ago before it jumped the shark.

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    3. Re:Make it stop by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      to be replaced by what? More re-runs of "The Show About Nothing"? No thanks.

    4. Re:Make it stop by Laur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree, I stopped watching the Simpsons about four or five years ago when they stopped being that funny. Know what, I STILL get all the Simpsons references people (on /. and elsewhere) make, because they're all from older episodes!

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    5. Re:Make it stop by haystor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stop watching.

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    6. Re:Make it stop by illuminatedwax · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why jumptheshark.com needs to have voting only after a series has finished. So many people voted for "Never Jumped" maybe a few years ago, and now it has thousands of votes that can never be overcome. I demand a revote!!!

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    7. Re:Make it stop by LarsWestergren · · Score: 1

      I agree, I'm sorry to say. Whenever I see one of the new episodes I'm disappointed. Fawning over celebrity guests (Blair? Who's next, Bush?). Careful not to offend anyone. And whenever creativity runs low, throw in a crazy chase scene.

      At least Futurama stopped while it was still good.

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    8. Re:Make it stop by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

      Agreed. He should simply take a pass for the remainder of the series run. The wonderful thing about television is that if you think "This should end" then you have the power to make it so.

      I think it's still one of the funniest shows on television though and I'll keep watching it.

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    9. Re:Make it stop by chetohevia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember the episode when the Cosby Show was cancelled, because Cosby said he wanted to quit while the show was still good?

      Bart's response was "If I had a TV show, I'd want to run it into the ground."

      They will. But I still like it-- it gets more and more bizarre, but the entire universe of Simpsons-ness still exists out there to draw on, and I just don't get tired of it.

    10. Re: Make it stop by Viking+Coder · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope and pray that someone realizes the potential of the DVD of the movie.

      I want them to shoot video of all of the actors doing the voices, and have a "commentary track" on the DVD, where you get to see a picture-in-picture window with the actors doing the voices.

      Plus, I hope they swear like crazy. =)

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    11. Re:Make it stop by Tickenest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Man, good thing I don't let you decide for me what's funny and what isn't.

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    12. Re:Make it stop by Viceice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      to be replaced by what? More re-runs of "The Show About Nothing"? No thanks.

      The answer is SO obvious. F U T U R A M A

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    13. Re:Make it stop by mrseigen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Last week's episode was really good, yeah. Last season was the worst; if I wanted to watch nothing but an idiot hurt himself and run around screaming I'd go outside and watch for awhile. :)

    14. Re:Make it stop by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Ugh - I saw that myself. Shows how many people can cling to something out of loyalty and lose their objectivity. The show hurt. Bad. While it jumped the shark earlier than this, I think the point I like most is the one where the writers basically admitted they'd fucked it up hardcore....

      "Worst Episode Ever."

    15. Re:Make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this. And if they put futurama in the same time slot, stupid people like myself won't forget when it's on. I need to get a TIVO.

    16. Re:Make it stop by FePe · · Score: 2, Funny
      Have the people who OK'd this movie actually SEEN and COMPARED newer episodes of Simpsons to ones that aired back in its' glory days?

      This is one of those shows I wish they'd take off the air for its' own good.

      That's exactly how I feel about Friends too. The first four seasons were briliant, and maybe the fifth was okay too, but then starting at season six they just repeated the same jokes over and over again and turned the characters into stereotypes. At first they were themselves - a thing that characterizes a good show in my opinion.

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    17. Re:Make it stop by unborracho · · Score: 1

      yeah but you're going to pay money to go see the movie when it comes out... so their plan is essentially going to work

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    18. Re:Make it stop by Carbon+Blob · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's not as funny as it used to be, but, to quote H.S., "ah, whaddya-gonna-do?". I mean, if they take it off the air they'll just replace it with worlds blankiest blank anyway.

    19. Re:Make it stop by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Already have.

      Grow a penis? That sounds just stupid.

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    20. Re:Make it stop by general_re · · Score: 1
      I mean, if they take it off the air they'll just replace it with worlds blankiest blank anyway.

      Exactly. I haven't even seen it yet, but I predict that whatever they put on to replace the Simpsons will have a looooooooooooong way to go to top that "Let's Get A Midget A Date!" show they're putting on next week, and I'm not sure I want to hang around to find out just exactly how trashy Fox can get.

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    21. Re:Make it stop by Carbon+Blob · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I want to hang around to find out just exactly how trashy Fox can get.

      "You know, FOX turned into a hardcore sex channel so gradually, I didn't even notice."

    22. Re:Make it stop by JahToasted · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah but if Futurama continued on, everyone here would be complaining about how its jumped the shark and the last season wasn't as good as the first five. Don't deny it, you all know its true.

    23. Re:Make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Classic"? You haven't been watching long, have you?

    24. Re:Make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Don't deny it, you all know its true.

      What I don't deny is how poor Futurama is compared to the Simpsons. I don't even watch it, and I'd spent a couple of years between hearing about it and seeing it looking forward to it.

    25. Re:Make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flamebait? For fuck's sake that's moronic.

    26. Re:Make it stop by Threni · · Score: 1

      I disagree for two reasons. One - it's not worse than it was. There've always been bad episodes. For example, see...well, *any* of the shows with songs. Comedy songs suck - period.

      The second reason is simply that I'm not one of those people who think that a tv show is less good because it goes on too long and ends up making inferior episodes. That only affects the crap ones, not the good ones.

    27. Re:Make it stop by BillyBlaze · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you can cannonize a child?

    28. Re:Make it stop by jDinK · · Score: 1

      Seems to me that if you didn't understand the reference, you wouldn't exactly know you had missed it.

      Well, unless every simpson's reference is tagged in the subject line or in a reply.

    29. Re:Make it stop by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Yes, the Simpsons have come a long way since an old drunk made humans out of his rabbit characters to pay off his gambling debts. Who knows what adventures they'll have between now and the time the show becomes unprofitable?

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    30. Re:Make it stop by Sri+Lumpa · · Score: 1

      It's funny because it's true.

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  8. let me be the first to say by pvt_medic · · Score: 4, Funny

    "excelent!!" (menacingly tapping my fingers together)

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    1. Re:let me be the first to say by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      Let me be the first to say that Excellent has two Ls in it.

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    2. Re:let me be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does? Continue the research.

    3. Re:let me be the first to say by HoldmyCauls · · Score: 1

      "Smithers, why didn't you inform me of the *silent* 'l' in that word?"

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  9. WOO HOO! by provolt · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I speak for many when I do bad homer impression and say:

    WOO HOO!

    1. Re: WOO HOO! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > I think I speak for many when I do bad homer impression and say: WOO HOO!

      Let's just hope you don't do a Nelson impression after you see it.

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  10. I'm Scared by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I sooo want this to be good, but it so difficult for a cartoon that has almost always done exactly what it needed to do in 1/2 hour to accomplish the same thing as effectively in a longer format while still doing justice to the original.

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    1. Re:I'm Scared by ZaMoose · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Simpsons: Hit and Run actually did quite well in the long format. It was fairly entertaining throughout.

      I don't know if one successful Simpsons video game necessarily indicates a successful movie implementation, but it does demonstrate that with clever writing and good pacing, a Simpsons storyline can be carried out well past the 1/2 hr. mark.

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    2. Re:I'm Scared by eraserewind · · Score: 1

      Well, they made the jump from 5 minute slot on Tracy Ullman to half hour show with no problem, and were in fact much better as a result. Plenty of people were sceptical of having a cartoon in family prime time. "Not since the Flintstones" was a much bandied about phrase at the time.

      Given that much crappier cartoons have made the jump to feature length with success (cf. beavis & butthead huhuhhuh), I am optimistic that any Simpsons Movie will be good.

    3. Re:I'm Scared by cyberworm · · Score: 1

      I agree with everyone here that says "It's hard to make a half hour program into an hour and a half program etc.." But let us not forget, that it's hard to keep a show going for this long without repeating yourself. I think what would be cool, is extending out some things... for instance you could stretch out the couch gag into a 15 minute romp through [insert crazy something here]. The key for making this movie great, in my opinion, will be to slow things down, not to pack more in or fluff it up. That they have been thinking about a movie for some time now, would make me think that they probably have been storing ideas away for it just as long. Imagine the comedy gold that is buiried away in that mine. I'll certainly be looking forward to it.

    4. Re:I'm Scared by spun · · Score: 1

      I just finished 100% of the Simpsons: Hit and Run. Took about twenty hours. However, there are only seven levels. There are only a few kinds of missions: go from here to there, go from here to there while timed, race someone from here to there, avoid someone, destroy vehicles, collect things. The actual story itself wouldn't take that long to tell, in a cartoon format.

      That being said, it is an original and amusing story that culminates in a classic 'Halloween Episode' level. The gameplay is superb. The graphics, the voice acting, and the cut-scenes are great. It's even fun to just watch someone else play. I noticed people and places from the cartoon that I might not have noticed while playing. My only complaint is that as a veteran racing gamer, it was very easy and rather a quick game to finish, but it is still fun to go back and re-play some of the missions or just drive around Springfield smashing things and running over characters from the show.

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  11. Finally, the end by blorg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect that this film may mark the end of the Simpsons. I certainly hope so, and just hope that they go back to the roots and manage to make a fitting coda to what was one of the most important shows in television history, rather than just a mindless parade of celebrity voice-overs.

    1. Re:Finally, the end by rufo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I recall reading several interviews a few years back with Matt Groening where he said that if they ever did a Simpsons movie it would be towards the end of the life of the series. I don't know if he's changed his mind since then, but something to mull over...

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  12. Simpsons Movie by Pizzop · · Score: 0

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Simpson's Movie.... *Drool* Donuts...... *Drool*

  13. its about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the series must be getting close to ending. Everyone (but me, I think) feels that the show has lost its touch. I was surprised when, just yesterday, I saw the promo for the new episode coming up on Sunday. Homer was sitting behind a newspaper and said "I'm not going to lie to you Marge..." and then went back to reading his paper in silence. WTH, they already used that joke, seasons ago! They're recycling old material into new episodes now :(

  14. Mmmm.... movies! by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Y'know, that's a great suggestion! Matt might have them jump a shark in this movie just for the joke. He knows the show is old, and mocking himself would be perfectly in keeping with his style.

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    1. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by AgentUSA · · Score: 4, Informative

      They already literally jumped the shark a few years ago in one of couch gags.

    2. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by MCS · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't there an episode were Homer literally jumps a shark?

      Actually looking at Jump the Shark it was the episode titled Gump Roast... which aired on 21 Apr 2002.

      So The Simpsons jumped the shark between 8-8:30 PM EST on April 21st 2002.

    3. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by mtrupe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As much as I love the Simpsons, I really cannot see how the format will work in a long movie... It works very well in 20 minutes.

    4. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by sxltrex · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Just like South Park. How would that work in a full-length feature? Oh, wait, that was one of the funniest movies of all time!


      All it takes is brilliant writing and any show can be made into a movie. Conversely, bad writing can make the best show into a piece of crap movie.

    5. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by yerfatma · · Score: 1

      Yeah. They were only about 4 years late in airing the gag: I know it's a dividing line between fans (or, in my mind, between fans and "fans"), but the Frank Grimes episode is a decent demarcation between great show and swful show.

    6. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Neop2Lemus · · Score: 1

      No, the first 1/2 was funny, then it rapidly degraded into unfunny obscenity and long boring stretches.

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    7. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by homer_ca · · Score: 3, Informative

      See Groening's quote from the article:

      Last year, Groening told the Hollywood Reporter that South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut was the only movie based on a TV show that wasn't "horrible."

      The South Park is the benchmark that they're shooting for in this movie. It's just MHO, but Beavis and Butthead Do America was also based on a TV cartoon and didn't suck. Not as good as South Park, but still good.

    8. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by clarkc3 · · Score: 1

      ironically, UPN aired that episode last night

    9. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      The simpson have been on the Jumptheshark web site for several different episodes.

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    10. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by EverDense · · Score: 5, Funny

      ironically, UPN aired that episode last night

      Alanis Morissette and yourself, share a problem with the definition of irony.

      Mere coincidence is NOT irony.

      American, are you?

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    11. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously didn't get the irony of her song...

    12. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, someone that agrees with me on the Grimey episode.

      Honestly, Homer used to just be dumb, but he had a heart. Now, he's just ignorant and heartless. Almost malicious.

      They had to demonize Homer to make the episode work.. That's just bullshit.

    13. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by kingLatency · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Just like South Park. How would that work in a full-length feature? Oh, wait, that was one of the funniest movies of all time!


      An important difference here is that the South Park movie was made before South Park started really declining. The Simpsons, as others have said, hasn't been true, awesome Simpsons for 2-3 seasons. Anyways, I don't think it's the length that matters, it's the fact that the Simpsons are in rapid decline. It's unfortunate but true and might make the movie even more of an abomination.
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    14. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by g1zmo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, well Alanis is Canadian.

      Perhaps you meant to bag on the citizens of the entire North American continent, rather than just one of it's nations?

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    15. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by dandelion_wine · · Score: 1

      Well, the article says they've got a team of seven writers on it, including Groening (I imagine that Conan is too busy). The ideal scenario: these guys get together and say: ok, let's see if we can make this 100 times funnier than any episode, justifying the extra length, AND if we find we can't do it, we CALL THIS OFF.

      The problems always arise when people start off with something that could have been good, realize it isn't going to be, and for financing or other reasons, proceed anyway. When I see a disastrous movie, I always wonder when the moment was that people started to realize, "this is going to be s**t."

    16. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

      Fox: "Let's make a Simpsons movie!"
      Matt and Trey: "South Park did it! South Park did it!"

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    17. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by G-funk · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Erm, isn't the irony in that song, the fact that none of the things she sings about are in fact, ironic? ...

      Or am I simply giving ms Morissette way too much credit?

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    18. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alanis Morissette is Canadian.

    19. Re:Mmmm.... movies! by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well Alanis is Canadian.

      And THAT'S the irony.

  15. Welp, by stomv · · Score: 5, Funny

    Worst.... movie.... ever

    1. Re:Welp, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hopefully it'st not going to be as bad as this one.
      The movie will have Jonny Bravo (Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson) looking for his long-lost father in a coming-of-age action-comedy. It marks the first time WB has teamed with sister company Cartoon Network on a live-action feature
      Dwayne should stick to Pro-Wrestling and not appear in any more movies.
  16. Don't have a cow man by OctaneZ · · Score: 1

    The simpsons movie... at last!

  17. I so hope we're are talking live action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I expect with the current level of writing, it will take about 2.5 hours to get .5 hours of that pure comic gold. If it is live action it will totally suck no matter how good the writers are. Perhaps a Simpson's-Family Guy double feature might get me out of the house.

  18. Cartoon by Mieckowski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really hope that the movie will be animated like the cartoon. Judging by what they say about South Park, it seems likely. 3D animation, live action, or both would probably ruin it. (think Flinstones, Scooby Doo)

  19. Teehouse of Horror by tr0llb4rt0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The only way it'd work is to do an extended Treehouse of Horror with 10-15 minute vingettes.

    If they tried an extended episode then it'd be soooo full of padding and rehashing that you'd be better off at home with the dvd collection.

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  20. I would rather..... by Sentosus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have a new season... 23 Episodes at 22 minutes a piece or 1.5 hours of a movie... I just don't see the purpose of a movie.

    1. Re:I would rather..... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

      Shhh, don't tell anyone but movies make mucho money, especially ones that are practically guaranteed bums on seats before a single take has been shot (or animated).

      The Simpsons movie would be a lock to fill cinemas, appealing as it does to TV nostalgia (a la Star Trek, Charlie's Angels, The Fugitive, Lost In Space, South Park, etc) and a loyal fan base of both young and old viewers.

      And, of course, nothing will get the merchandising revenue rolling in like a movie release. It's all money in the bank, at the cinema, at the toy store, at the supermarket, at the burger joint, at the local gaming emporium.

      Remember, movies make mucho money. Don't tell anyone though, OK? It'll be just our little secret.

      D'oh!

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  21. No Simpsons Topic? by nearlygod · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is a great unjustice that we have Star Wars and LotR topics but no Simpsons topic. That is unpossible.

    nearlygod

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    1. Re:No Simpsons Topic? by arnie_apesacrappin · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't see what you mean. Embiggens is a perfectly cromulent word.

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  22. Can't Wait by cryptonine99 · · Score: 1

    Will there be monkeys navigating rocket propelled ...

  23. I don't believe it! by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1

    Obligatory namesake post to Simpsons article.

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  24. And homer jumps a shark on a unicycle by doublem · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Ahhh, the definitive "Jump the Shark" moment.

    Now we know The Simpsons is nearing cancellation. How long do snows normally last after a movie is made?

    It'll be sad to see the show go, but I won't be crying too hard, as it's been a few years since I watched it regularly. The "Side Show Bob Steals a Nuke" episode was the end for me.

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    1. Re:And homer jumps a shark on a unicycle by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Simpsons is still one of the highest rated shows on FOX.

      It is not nearing cancelation.

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    2. Re:And homer jumps a shark on a unicycle by mtrupe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, South Park has done pretty well after the movie was made. The South Park movie was great, but not as good as the TV show. I don't think shows like The Simpson's, Family Guy, South Park, and Futurama are designed to work well in a hour+ long story. These TV shows are great because they play on our short attention spans very well.

      Of course, I'll be in the theatre on its opening night anyway...

    3. Re:And homer jumps a shark on a unicycle by doublem · · Score: 1

      There are always exceptions

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  25. the songs by patmfitz · · Score: 1
    To be sure, Reiss didn't have any specifics to offer, promising only that The Simpsons movie would bigger, longer and uncut. Any resemblance to 1999's South Park movie is purely intentional.
    I can't wait to hear the Simpson's version of "Uncle F**KA", Bart's rendition of "Milhouse's Mom's A B**ch", and Smithers crooning "I'm Super".
    1. Re:the songs by Monkey+Overlord · · Score: 1

      I would rather see The Simpsons, remain The Simpsons then become anything like South Park which is dull IMHO.

  26. And the screenwriter said by paiute · · Score: 1

    My percent is off the net? Unpossible!

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  27. OSQ by Monkey+Overlord · · Score: 1

    Did anyone patent OSQ (Obligatory Simpsons Quote) already? Someone should, there will be a lot more of them on /. once the movie comes out.

    1. Re:OSQ by why-is-it · · Score: 1

      Did anyone patent OSQ (Obligatory Simpsons Quote) already? Someone should, there will be a lot more of them on /. once the movie comes out.

      What would be the point? There is too much prior art...

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    2. Re:OSQ by Monkey+Overlord · · Score: 1
      That never seemed to stop Microsoft (just picking on them) and a few other companies from patenting the most random things.

      There may be a lot of prior art in using an obligatory the simpsons quote, but not for "use of a close approximation to what was said on a said show on TV in a /. discussion".

  28. Guaranteed cash cow by n0mad6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    One has to only look at the Matrix sequels and the Star Wars prequels to see sloppy filmmaking can get (in terms of quality) when you have something guaranteed to be a box office success...

    Of course, Groening's inferences about the South Park movie gives me hope as that definitely was a succesful big-screen transition...

  29. I, for one, welcome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...our decades-long, shark-jumping overlords. I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their sticky-floored popcorn caves.

    1. Re:I, for one, welcome... by madpierre · · Score: 1

      My frikkin sharks have frikkin lasers.

      Nobody, but *nobody* is gonna be jumping my frikkin sharks.

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  30. Nah the best quote is.... by quinkin · · Score: 1
    The Simpsons movie is "gonna suck pretty hard."

    Now THAT'S how you hype a movie. :)

    Q.

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  31. finally by Savatte · · Score: 1

    a movie about The Simpsons. You know what would awesome stunt casting? Usher as O.J., and Luis Guzman as Nicole, and Jonathan Lipnicki as Mark Furhman.

  32. Re:Simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it good, or is it whack?

  33. Obligatory by steevo.com · · Score: 2, Funny

    First Po... Hey! Wait a minute... DOH!

  34. Nostalgia by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 1

    The Simpsons has been on FOX for 15 seasons

    Remember how goofy the drawings and voices were when the show just started? Every once in a while I see and old one, and I want to puke. It really shows how far they've come from 15 seasons of practice.

    I can't say the writing has improved as much as the animation and voices though.

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  35. Itchy and Scratchy by Cpt+Kirk · · Score: 1

    Does this mean we get to see the itchy and scratchy movie in the simpsons movie ? recursive movies ??? wierd ...
    Mind you Beavis and Butthead Do America was kinda ok, so i guess a simpsons movie would be pretty good, so how about a Futurama one ??

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    1. Re:Itchy and Scratchy by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1

      I concur about Futurama. I'd rather see two hours worth of Treehouse Simpsons episodes than a full movie, but it all depends on the writing. Futurama, on the other hand, always seemed more suited for movie-length productions because of its larger scope.

  36. Considering... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    ...the only couple episodes I've ever seen of the Simpson's, they ought to do a timeless piece. One that mocks politics, elections, science--you know, the works.

    That's what I liked about the episodes I saw. If you're up on current events, you see pretty good satire.

    1. Re:Considering... by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Funny

      Simpson's, they ought to do a timeless piece. One that mocks politics, elections, science

      Can't be done, religion and science are to remain one hundred yards away from each other at all times...

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  37. I got one thing to say to the movie going suckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ha ha!

  38. What's the benefit of this? by techstar25 · · Score: 1

    What could they possibly put in a movie that I can't see for free on TV? The truth is that movies based on TV shows do usually suck. The X-files movie was cool, but really it was just a long episode that probably could have aired on TV. Wouldn't a Simpsons movie just be like one long episode? Maybe it will be live action-like the Flintstones movie-which is a good example of how bad it COULD be. John Goodman as Homer Simpson...Doh!

  39. Probably too late by spungo · · Score: 0

    As much as I love the Simpsons I can't help think that he's missed the boat by five or six years.

  40. Phil maybe.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  41. Already done by kaszeta · · Score: 5, Informative
    Will there be any shark-jumping?

    Well, it's already been done. In epsiode DABF22 ("How I Spent My Strummer Vacation") the "couch gag" was Homer waterskiing and jumping over a shark.

    1. Re:Already done by Oyvind+Eik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a picture of it.

    2. Re:Already done by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, it's already been done. In epsiode DABF22 ("How I Spent My Strummer Vacation") the "couch gag" was Homer waterskiing and jumping over a shark.

      You are the real life comic book guy, aren't you? :)

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    3. Re:Already done by PhiberOptix · · Score: 3, Funny

      havent you seen that southpark episode "simpsons already did it"?

      simpsons is airing for 13 years, they already did everything!

    4. Re:Already done by AsimovBesterClarke · · Score: 1

      Ummm, "Bart the Daredevil"? (Don't now the number....). 'course, it wasn't one of the main (or secondary) characters, and, if memory serves, there was also either a lion or a mountain lion (and a drop of blood) in the shark tank.

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    5. Re:Already done by Toasty981 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it was Lance Murdock. Electric eels were there too :)

    6. Re:Already done by Endive4Ever · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought it was agreed that Slashdot was a gathering point for CBG types.

      Don't get all Nelson on us about it.

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    7. Re:Already done by sharkey · · Score: 4, Funny
      You are the real life comic book guy, aren't you? :)

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    8. Re:Already done by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Informative

      There was another instance too, it was a still picture of homer alone on water sckis wearing the Fonze's leather jacket jumping over a shark at the end of the Simpson's spin-off show (Hi, I'm Troy McLure) I believe.

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    9. Re:Already done by madmancarman · · Score: 1
      You are the real life comic book guy, aren't you? :)

      With the instant availability of pop culture minutiae through Google, aren't we all capable of being Comic Book Guy when we're online?

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    10. Re:Already done by satanami69 · · Score: 1


      That was a clip show called "Gump Roast" (DABF12 / SI-1312). The still image was from the "We didn't start the fire" satire song.

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    11. Re:Already done by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      That was a clip show called "Gump Roast" (DABF12 / SI-1312). The still image was from the "We didn't start the fire" satire song.


      Right, thanks!

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  42. Rainier Wolfcastle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I wonder who's gonna play him. That's a difficult one. ;-)

  43. South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by blorg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut managed this with aplomb. I remember being in the theatre, everything going along relatively calmly, when "Uncle Fucker" started. I have *never* heard so many people explode with laughter. It was classic...

    "You don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn, you just fuck your uncle all day long!" Inspired.

    1. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      When I went to see the movie, I took along a friend who's the same age as myself (30+), but he's bald and has a full beard and moustache.

      We got carded.

      I thought that was the funniest thing I would see all day.

      I was wrong.

      Before the movie started, a young couple came in with what appeared to be a 5 year old child. Now, I don't know what kind of IDIOTS would bring a 5 year old to a South Park movie that advertises the fact that it's UNCUT, but I do now know what kind of IDIOTS get up and walk out of a movie roughly 8 seconds into a rousing rendition of "Shut your fucking face, Uncle Fucker!".

      When they dragged in Bill Gates and criticized him for Windows 98 and then shot him, my friend literally fell out of his seat from laughing so hard.

      I don't think there was a single moment of time during the movie that at least one person wasn't laughing out loud - except maybe for the scene where The Mole talked about when his mother tried to abort him with a wire coat hanger while he was still in her womb. For some reason everyone shut up at that point...

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    2. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Worse, when I went to see it, several young children who had parents that let them stay and watch it.

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    3. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1

      I know your concern about children, but was it really that bad? They heard a few swear words they hear in the school yard everyday. Meanwhile, "child-safe" films include a lot of violence without the same uproar. I think our priorities are a little skewed there...

    4. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

      You don't think Bambi, The Lion King, Fox and the Hound, Snow White, Cinderella, or any of those movies where the Mother or Father is murdered right in front of the baby is any more tamer?

      I can't figure how you would let your child go see a moview where the character's parent(s) are murdered in the beginning and we are supposed to sit there and enjoy the moview? I WOULD BE TRAUMATIZED!!!

    5. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by MightyZug · · Score: 1
      South park: BLU was one of the VERY few movies that caused me to laugh out loud uncontrollably in a theater. I had to see it again because the whole theater was laughing so hard. I missed some jokes and dialogue (yes, it can be called dialogue). Then whenever I knew of a friend going to see it, I made it my buisness to tag along so i could see again. Funny shit. I can't wait for a simpsons movie.

      BTW, In the theater I was at, there were people that actually believed it was going to be a wholesome movie they could bring thier kids to. They complained to the movie theater, and they were laughed out of the place (not literally).

    6. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think Bambi, The Lion King, Fox and the Hound, Snow White, Cinderella, or any of those movies where the Mother or Father is murdered right in front of the baby is any more tamer?

      Those movies don't have a fucking glistening erect cock in them.

    7. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by Mr.+Piddle · · Score: 1

      I have *never* heard so many people explode with laughter. It was classic...

      Another classic is seeing a father walk into the theater with his 12-year-old son. "It's just a cartoon, right...am I right? ...oh dear god!!!"

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    8. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing when I saw Finding Nemo the first time.

      When Nemo's mom disappeared along with all the eggs (presumably eaten) I remember thinking "wow... that sure was a happy, fun-time, family kind of moment!"

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    9. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 1

      The difference between SOuth Park and the Simpsons is that South Park's main Schtick at the time was to push the envelope of good taste while still retaining some social value. The movie enabled them go further in that direction than they were ever allowed to on television and it was a better movie because of it. Also, in my opinion, the episode have only gotten better since the movie.

      The Simpsons, however, uses parody as its main schtick and I don't really see how a movie format is going to make what they do any better. It may still be good and I will probably go see it, I don't expect to be blown away.

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    10. Re:South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut by RowdyReptile · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing when I saw Finding Nemo the first time.

      When Nemo's mom disappeared along with all the eggs (presumably eaten) I remember thinking "wow... that sure was a happy, fun-time, family kind of moment!"


      That scene in Nemo caught me a bit off guard as well. But there's a difference between using a sad moment (the death of a parent) and the excessive use of language, violence, sex, and whatever else was in South Park: BLU. (I did see it in the theater, but it's been almost five years and I've blocked most of it out of my memory.)

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  44. Obligatory Informative Links by crashnbur · · Score: 5, Informative
    Commercial Sites:
    Fan Sites:
    Fun Site:
    There are countless others. These are among the best I've found. Please link to others... I'm sure I haven't seen them all.
    1. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Simpsons Personality Test

      I'm Homer Simpson, WooHoo!

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      D'oh!

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    2. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by EulerX07 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What badgers eat dot com

      Still on the web years after the in-episode joke.

    3. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damn you really wreaked havoc on the simpsons web by linking all those. Sometimes Slashdot feels to me like a satanic pokemon - "Gotta crash 'em all."

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    4. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by fizban · · Score: 1

      And with that comes the obligatory Informative mod-ups for you... Unfortunately, since I'm now posting, I can't help bring the karma whoring down.. DOH!

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    5. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      And with that comes the obligatory Informative mod-ups for you... Unfortunately, since I'm now posting, I can't help bring the karma whoring down.. DOH!

      It was a relevant comment. Why would you want to mod it down? I'm sure a hell of a lot of Simpsons fans are finding out What Badgers Eat for the first time.

    6. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      I'm Mr. Burns! Excellent...

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    7. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Wow, /. turned into a blog so slowly, I didn't even notice.

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    8. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by crashnbur · · Score: 1
      And with that comes the obligatory Informative mod-ups for you...
      I was counting on that. What can I say? I'm a karma whore.
    9. Re:Obligatory Informative Links by crashnbur · · Score: 1

      But I didn't post that one. Then again, I made my post in hopes that others would post relevant links as replies to mine, so people could find useful Simpsons links in one thread. But, err, what does it matter... I'm still a karma whore.

  45. episode quality by jedrek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll be the first to admit it: there have been some pretty good episodes this season, story-wise. There have been total dogs (like the school-closing ep, I think I smiled *once* during that 22min fiasco) but it's a lot better than the shit they were putting out S12-14.

    That said, it's still far, far away from the Simpson's glory days. I'm not talking about the story lines, I'm talking about the direction and 'cinematography' (if you can call it that) of recent episodes. The current eps watch like a sitcom. A couple of camera angles, some close ups, some pans, maybe a zoom or two. I watch eps from S1-3 (on DVD, woo hoo!) and it's a totally different world. Zooms, pans, moving shots, distorted angles, etc.

    I don't know how much this is a budgetary concern (although with 13+ mln viewers you should have enough money) but it is something that has to be addressed in the movie.

    Oh, and bring back Conan!

    1. Re:episode quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Oh, and bring back Conan!

      Dude, he doesn't have time for that crap now - he was elected governor of California.

  46. Conan O'Brien is overrated by sbma44 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    as a Simpsons writer. While he's a brilliant talk-show host and did some good writing for the Simpsons, he is far too often given all the credit for the Simpsons' golden years. I think if you look at the writing credits you'll see that George Meyer's presence on staff is more closely correlated with Simpsons quality. He is attached to the movie, according to comingsoon.net.

    With that said, he came back to the show a few years ago and the show didn't get much better. So I still don't have very high hopes for this movie. The thing that made the Simpsons great was its loving, hilarious-yet-almost-plausible depiction of a small town and all of its quirky inhabitants. It stopped doing that a long time ago and started sending the main characters on ludicrous adventures crammed full of celebrity cameos -- in a nutshell, situational humor rather than character-based humor. It became just another cartoon. There have been ups and downs in quality, but I think it's pretty clear to everyone that the series has never been as good as it was during seasons 3-6.

    I would like to believe that a feature length film would allow the series' greatest contributors to sit down and really focus on their craft again, and create a legacy that can be used to put the series to bed. More likely it will be used as an excuse for a plotline that's even more outlandish than usual. I'm not looking forward to it.

    1. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by Avumede · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Interesting point. I actually have been thinking that the Simpsons has been getting better the last few years. Perhaps it is Meyer's influence after all.

    2. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by hambonewilkins · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let me see if I get your argument: Both Conan and George were writing during the golden years of the simpsons. Both left. Show gets bad. Later, George came back and the show failed to right itself. Hence, Conan is overrated as a writer? On the contrary, Conan, having written for SNL and the Simpsons, is a very good writer. I DO credit him with the golden years.

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    3. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by amabbi · · Score: 1

      one thing about conan that actually helped him get the "late night" job was his reputation for making all of the simpsons writers laugh. perhaps he wasn't the direct creative genius behind each episode, but he certainly, at least indirectly, contributed to the show's "golden years"... and those years are much missed

    4. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by ill_mango · · Score: 1

      I agree. In fact I have noticed that the so-called "situational humour" has shown up less and less in the past few seasons

    5. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by sbma44 · · Score: 5, Informative
      From snpp.com:

      Conan O'Brien wrote or cowrote:

      • [9F06] New Kid on the Block
      • [9F10] Marge vs. the Monorail
      • [1F02] Homer Goes to College
      • [1F04] Treehouse of Horror IV (wraparounds)

      All very fine episodes, and obviously a staff writer will contribute to others' episodes. But that's just 3.3 episode credits. Conan was a contributor, but not a driving creative force.

      George Meyer wrote or cowrote:

      • [7G13] The Crepes of Wrath
      • [7F07] Bart vs. Thanksgiving
      • [7F22] Blood Feud
      • [8F01] Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington
      • [8F02] Treehouse of Horror II
      • [8F15] Separate Vocations
      • [9F01] Homer the Heretic
      • [1F05] Bart's Inner Child
      • [AABF08] Sunday, Cruddy Sunday
      • [AABF22] Brother's Little Helper
      • [BABF19] Behind the Laughter
      • [CABF22] The Parent Rap

      That's a much larger contribution. He's also probably got the most cameos on the show of any simpsons writer (he's the dirty looking bearded guy with the gilligan-style hat found in the unemployment line, in the writers' office at I&S studios, etc). And his tenure at the show is considerably longer.

      But my best advice is to go here. It's an archive of a new yorker article profiling Meyer. Conan is a great, talented guy. But don't assume that just because he's the only famous name on the Simpsons writing staff that he's the funniest one.

    6. Re:Conan O'Brien is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard from somewhere that a writer who didn't write as much as the one who got the writer credit often got a producer credit instead.

  47. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by eoyount · · Score: 2

    That's Phil Hartman.

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  48. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by proj_2501 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    you mean phil hartman.

  49. But will it work? by iantri · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I love the Simpsons. It's great.. but I don't really think there is enough material for a feature-length movie.

    In a 1/2 hour comedy, like the Simpsons, the plotlines and characters tend to be simple, due to the necessity of telling a complete story in 24 minutes.

    How can Groening translate the Simpsons formula to a 1 1/2 hour (or more) movie?

    1. Re:But will it work? by dema · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think 320 (or somewhere around there) 24-minute episodes is more than enough to prove the characters of The Simpsons aren't "simple."

    2. Re:But will it work? by senor_burt · · Score: 1
      I used to think the same thing about South Park. But they did the movie format well - and even a good two-parter (the "Do The Handicapped Go To Hell?/Probably" episodes).

      The Simpsons also did a good two-parter with the "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" episodes. Hopefully, they'll go for something as 'epic'.

    3. Re:But will it work? by FattMattP · · Score: 1

      The same thing could be said of South Park but it worked for them.

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    4. Re:But will it work? by fermion · · Score: 1
      I answered this last time the Simpsons movie was posted.

      The Simpsons has a very simple formula, at least of late. The show is a series of possible unrelated storylines that mesh into each other as cause and effect. The individual storylines can be completely unrelated and take place over long periods of time. For instance, Bart breaks his leg, the school has to build a ramp, the mob overcharges, A toy company gets control of the school, an evil robot is born, and a ends with a happy sing for all.(I am not up on my Simpsons trivia, so I may have mixed up stories). In this case, bart breaking his leg and the ramp are merely lead ins to the main storyline. This formula can be used to link as many stories together as necessary.

      While South Park is the current golden child, it is not the best example. Unlike the Simpsons, South Park is a relatively self consistent and continuos story. It is also kind of parody of the children's cartoon. All Trey and Matt had to do for the movie was make a parody of the Disney classics.

      A better example is Beavis and Butthead, in which Judge turned 5 minute shorts into a movie. He used the plot devices of travel to string together short, not necessarily related, segments. The only difference is that such plot devices are already part of nature of the Simpsons.

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    5. Re:But will it work? by katarac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know if I agree on the plotlines being simple. If you watch any episode in the past 10 or so years, you can easily forget how the episode started at all. I happen to like the convolutedness(real word?) of it. It makes the episodes seem longer and it's funny just for being so absurd. I think it would be easy to make a movie just by extending some of the twising, non-linear plotlines of the episodes.

    6. Re:But will it work? by Gleng · · Score: 1
      I happen to like the convolutedness(real word?) of it.

      It's a perfectly cromulent word.

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  50. Jumping the shark? They can't! by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Homer has already jumped the shart -- DABF12 -- Gump Roast. They show him literally jumping the shark. Groening and company know how to make fun of themselves, and that's just an inside reference for those of us that notice those things.

    And the fact that I knew exactly which episode it happened in, and only had to look at snpp.com to find the ep. ## scares me...

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  51. The reason for the movie... by blorg · · Score: 1

    ...is the same reason as for Matrix 2 and 3.

    1. Re:The reason for the movie... by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Because the Simpsons was origially written as a trilogy?

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  52. The Simpsons, The Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    46.4% new footage!

  53. It finally works !!!!!! by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our new Simpson overlords. It's about time that this comment was actually used in context.

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  54. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually Dial M for Murder was the real movie.

    Troy's version was Dial M for Murderousness.

  55. "prepare-for-disappointment department"? by RandBlade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    D'oh!

    Seriously though: Its easy to expect disappointment, it is notoriously difficult to switch from half-hour episodes to a full 90-minute movie. If the movie is just an extended cartoon then it would be a disappointment, it wouldn't work. This is why most movie attempts fail.

    However there are some examples of very good quality movies from TV series' and if done well then these can be "excellent". I think few would dispute that South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut did the series justice, it took many jokes already in the series and resulted in a very good movie. Another classic example is M*A*S*H - This is I believe the only prime-time comedy which ran longer than The Simpsons has, however the movie-length finale was very memorable. A good series which closed with an even better film.

    If they just try to do a long episode then the movie will fail. If they try to get a proper movie, set in Springfield, then they have every chance to pull off a masterpiece.

    1. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by Coventry · · Score: 2, Informative

      On MASH - are you refering to the final episodes as a movie, or to the in-theaters movie? If the latter, it was released before the TV series, and was the inspiration, not the other way around.

      From IMDB:
      MASH (1970) - the movie, Ring Lardner Jr wrote the screenplay, based on the book by Richard Hooker.
      "M*A*S*H" (1972) [TV-Series 1972-1983] - developed for TV by Larry Gelbart.

      So, it was a book, then movie, then TV show.

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    2. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by euxneks · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd like to point out that the M.A.S.H movie came out before the series.. The series was based on the movie.. =)

      Unless they made another movie... Which would be kind of silly..

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    3. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by RandBlade · · Score: 5, Informative

      On MASH - are you refering to the final episodes as a movie, or to the in-theaters movie? If the latter, it was released before the TV series, and was the inspiration, not the other way around.

      The final episode of M*A*S*H was movie-length. It wasn't shown in the cinema's, but it was done as a movie. Incredibly emotional and tops any episode.

      From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_A_S_H_(television)

      The final episode was titled "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen" and was first broadcasted on February 28, 1983. The episode was 2.5 hours long and was viewed by over 125 million Americans (77% of viewship that night) which made "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen" the most watched television episode in history up to that time.

    4. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      I always thought "Beavis and Butthead Do America" was a great movie.

      Seems to me the key is simply to write a great plot around the characters, rather than trying to take a half hour script and stall for time.

      The same formula worked in South Park. The theme of the show didn't change, the characters didnt change, but it actually had a chance to pull off a more detailed plot.

      I was worried the BB movie would be two hours of them sitting on the couch watching videos, it easily could have been, and would have been entertaining enough to make some quick bucks at the box office. But I was surprised in a good way, that they actually made a movie.

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    5. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by Snosty · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine invented (I think) the word "anticipointment" for situations like this after Star Wars Episode I came out.

    6. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by fermion · · Score: 1
      M*A*S*H was a movie first. The finale, like most of the last season, was terrible. It used sentimental tripe to compensate for bad writing. I was a disgrace to the memory of the show

      South Park, due to the nature of the show, was well suited to the longer format. The issue was the limited number of themes available, which made it a less than classic movie.

      Beavis and Butthead is the gold standard. 5 Minutes short turned into a very memorable feature film.

      The Simpsons is too old, the writers are too tired, the themes are too used. It may be a credible movie, but nothing new will be added.

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    7. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by Fjord · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, but you can't count that. The reason why TV->movie conversions don't work is because we are used to getting a certain level of entertainment for free and we have to pay for a movie. We expect so much more because we are putting $6.50-$12 (depending on where you are) down to see it, and if it's just a long episode we feel gypped. A movie length episode that you can see for free on TV is like a bonus long episode.

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    8. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by RandBlade · · Score: 1

      Good point. However that is just one problem and not what I believe is the main problem, especially with cartoon -> movie conversions in which the time constraints are dramatically changed. What works for a half-hour episode may not for 90+ minutes.

      'Value for money' while a valid concern is secondary to time changes. If you don't want to see the film at the cinema you don't have to, no doubt it will be shown on TV one day, however people do not just watch The Simpsons because it was free. Simpsons merchandise has been on sale almost all along and sales of videos/DVD's of episodes are very popular. People are willing to pay for episodes and these same people (and more) may be willing to pay for the film. Whether or not the film is any good in the different time is the much more difficult (and I think more important) question to answer. South Park, M*A*S*H and as others have mentioned B&B demonstrate that it is indeed possible for the jump to be made.

    9. Re:"prepare-for-disappointment department"? by dghcasp · · Score: 1
      it is notoriously difficult to switch from half-hour episodes to a full 90-minute movie

      I remember talking about basically the same thing with my friends about fifteen years ago, when they were talking about making a weekly, half hour version of the Simpsons, based on the 45 second spots that were then airing on the Tracey Ullman show.

      "There's no way they can make a whole half hour show out of this - It'll just be so lame."

      History proved us wrong...

  56. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by Rooktoven · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You mean Phil Hartman, I hope. We could do without a schlocky version of "Free Ride" as a grand finale.

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  57. Simpsons should think about it by ice+lioness · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I like the Simpsons but I don't think their style would work for a movie-length feature. 1.5 hours of independent jokes and little storyline doesn't sound quite right. I think they should stay in their preferred length of 22 minutes. And I haven't seen too many TV shows made into movies that are any good. Except maybe Transformers the Movie. But I'm just a geeky girl.

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    1. Re:Simpsons should think about it by Professr3 · · Score: 1

      "But I'm just a geeky girl." I didn't think they made those... There's hope!

    2. Re:Simpsons should think about it by mrseigen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Twilight Zone slapped together four extended episodes for its movie; I'd like to see a similar thing done here.

    3. Re:Simpsons should think about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except maybe Transformers the Movie

      I was going to propose to you, but then I noticed you incorrectly titled "The Transformers: the Movie". Better luck next time.

  58. I Hear that the sea captain.... by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear that the "Sea Captain" has rated the move "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"!

    1. Re:I Hear that the sea captain.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the captain says YAR! and not arr!
      source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yar !

  59. End of the Simpsons? by cyranoVR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ever noticed that with the sole of the exception of South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut - a television show usually peaks by jumping to the big screen. Decline and inevitable cancellation usually soon follow.

    For example: X-Files, Beavis and Butthead Do America, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

    And don't forget all the children's shows:
    Transformers the Movie, GI Joe the Movie, Masters of the Universe, Pokemon, Power Rangers, Ducktales(!), Rugrats...
    (Ok, not all these shows were cancelled but someone could definitely make the case for "decline").

    I feel like I'm forgetting someting...help me out here people...

    Also, I Googled up this interesting article:
    The Challenges of the Big Screen Cartoon

    1. Re:End of the Simpsons? by musikit · · Score: 1

      For example: X-Files, Beavis and Butthead Do America, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
      And don't forget all the children's shows:
      Transformers the Movie, GI Joe the Movie, Masters of the Universe, Pokemon, Power Rangers, Ducktales(!), Rugrats...

      X-files was already on way down.
      never watched beavis and butthead.
      they are making a new batman cartoon. plus they never really got rid of the batman IP so no.
      transformers had 2 more seasons after movie.
      GI Joe had 2 more seasons after movie, arguably best eps ever for GI Joe.
      He-man? dude it was live action what did you expect?
      pokemon. i caught them all damn it!
      power rangers is still on and as good/bad as it always was maybe you just outgrew it
      and DuckTales was the shiznit! i still remember being confused about weather gizmo-duck and Buba were in the same time line or were they seperate time lines.
      i never watched Rugrats.

    2. Re:End of the Simpsons? by Galvatron · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It might also just be that keeping a show on the air for a long time is inherently difficult. Around the time a movie gets rolling, the show has slid into decline. Look at, say, Friends. It was actually a pretty funny show for the first couple seasons. If, around season 4 or 5 they'd made a movie, people might say that the movie was responsible for the decline. In actuality, the show got stale and unfunny all on its own.

      I think this goes doubly for cartoons, because of the aging audience. By the time you get a movie out, your audience is 3 years older, and is likely starting to outgrow your cartoon (only very occasionally does it seem that a cartoon can capture the next younger set of kids; Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles seemed to make occasional revivals, but it was never as big as it was when I was about 10). Of course occasionally there are exceptions, such as Transformers where they just spent too much money on the movie, and then had to farm out the animation for the third season to a cut rate animation studio. In that case it could be argued that the movie killed the TV show.

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    3. Re:End of the Simpsons? by Schnapple · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about the South Park movie is that South Park as a show sucked for some time shortly thereafter. Word was that Matt & Trey wanted to move on. This is why Comedy Central allowed them to do "That's my Bush!", but after eight epsiodes at a million a piece (with declining ratings) they axed that. After they signed M&T to a huge contract to keep South Park alive and these last few seasons - this one in particular (#7) - have been particularly brilliant.

    4. Re:End of the Simpsons? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      Excellent. I'm in the UK, so no series #7 here yet. Off to eMule we go...

      I also think South Park sucked around series #2 and #3, which is when (I think) Matt & Trey were making Basketball.

    5. Re:End of the Simpsons? by TyfStar · · Score: 1

      For the record.. that's not always true. A) There were about 4 pokemon movies. 2 or 3 of them were REALLY good. Pokemon, last time I checked, is still on. I Don't know if it is still good.. I turned 25 and stopped watching. :-P B) Rugrats JUST put out another movie. I think their 2nd or 3rd movie was probably their apex. C) The other cartoons you mentioned are actually coming back. Proof that we have officially run our of ideas. D) In favor of the "Movies make it better"... Cowboy Bebop: The Movie. What about Fire Walk With Me? Anyone aroudn during that time that can say it made the franchise better/worse?

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  60. Aren't they doing that this season? by gosand · · Score: 5, Informative
    Y'know, that's a great suggestion! Matt might have them jump a shark in this movie just for the joke. He knows the show is old, and mocking himself would be perfectly in keeping with his style.

    I swear I saw Homer jumping a shark on skis in the previews for this season. It made me crack up. I am actually surprised they haven't done it on the show yet. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it became a running gag. I don't know if the Simpsons could ever truly jump the shark, they are all about the shark. :-)

    For those who don't know about this phenomenon, "jumping the shark" is a term a guy coined to describe when a TV show (or anything for that matter) has started to go downhill. It comes from Happy Days, when Fonzie jumped a shark on water skis. It was made up to be a scary and serious episode, but was clearly very very lame. After that, the show was never the same. See jumptheshark.com for more info.

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    1. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Zixia · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those who don't know about this phenomenon, "jumping the shark" is a term a guy coined to describe when a TV show (or anything for that matter) has started to go downhill. It comes from Happy Days, when Fonzie jumped a shark on water skis. It was made up to be a scary and serious episode, but was clearly very very lame. After that, the show was never the same. See jumptheshark.com for more info.

      For someone who even points to the webbage, you seem to be a little misguided. Fonzie jumping the shark was not 'very very lame', but when the show clearly reached its peak and could never achieve anything better than that moment, and it is from there that everything goes downhill.

      'Jumping the shark' is when something has reached its peak and has nowhere to go but down. It is not when the show has all ready started to decline in quality.

    2. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by gowen · · Score: 5, Informative
      Fonzie jumping the shark was not 'very very lame', but when the show clearly reached its peak
      Your wrong (as incidentally is the frontpage of jumptheshark.com. The OP was right. The Shark Jump was lame, and indicative that the Happy Days writers were entirely devoid of ideas (much as the Simpsons writers have been for 2 or 3 years). It wasn't the peak, it was the point at which the decline was irreversible.

      See here for example.
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    3. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Pixies · · Score: 2

      'Jumping the shark' is when something has reached its peak and has nowhere to go but down. It is not when the show has all ready started to decline in quality.

      But when people say "that was the exact moment it jumped the shark", it tends to be the opposite of what you describe: something bad or perplexing or disappointing that triggers a realization (perhaps in hindsight) that things are hopelessly in decline.

    4. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      You could see Fonzie's legs! It was HORRIBLE!

      They filmed him in shorts, waterskiing with a leather jacket!

    5. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be someone's definition, but it's not the most common one now. If you read the comments on that site, you'll see that people pick episodes where a show has already begun to decline as the shark jump. Often it is a really bad episode after a slow, steady decline.

    6. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Gulthek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry, but you're wrong. The official definition is held at (oddly enough), jumptheshark.com:

      Q. What is jumping the shark?
      A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak . That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill.
      The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark." The rest is history.

    7. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by jnicholson · · Score: 2, Interesting
      A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak . That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill.
      In fairness, that doesn't say that the show reached its peak at that moment. It just says that you have at that moment realised that the peak has already been reached. So your reaction could be, OMG - they can NEVER top that; or it could be, OMG - there's just no saving this show now, is there...
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    8. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      The official definition is held at (oddly enough), jumptheshark.com:

      Q. What is jumping the shark?
      A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak . That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill.


      Right, its not the peak, its the moment that makes you realised the peak has past.

      Jumping the shark is a moment of obvious lameness that makes it painfully clear that the show is getting lamer and lamer.

      The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark."

      A "telltale sign of demise" is not a good moment, its a bad moment.

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    9. Re:Aren't they doing that this season? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      2 or 3 years? You're being too generous. There's little past season 9 that's worth watching. Max Power? Give me a break.

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  61. Dupe by Plutor · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is a duplicate post!
    </sarcasm>

    1. Re:Dupe by Monkey+Overlord · · Score: 1

      Its only a dupe if was posted on the same day ... the other port is from August 18th, 2003, which is beyond what even the best /. editors can recall.

    2. Re:Dupe by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
      Its only a dupe if was posted on the same day ... the other port is from August 18th, 2003, which is beyond what even the best /. editors can recall.

      No... August 18th, 2000. Which is even funnier. :)

      -T

  62. It's too late by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1
    I agree with those that feel the movie should have happened fix or six years ago. Besides, can they top "Blame Canada" at this point?

    No. No they cannot.

    What the world really needs is the Harvey Birdman movie!! Yeah!! With extreme violence! And extreme litigation! And lots of exclamation points! And extreme full frontal nudity. Especially the full frontal nudity! Hee hee heeeeee! Dangly bits!

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    1. Re:It's too late by jameskojiro · · Score: 0

      I would take a Harvey Birdman movie as well!!!

      Habius Corpus, power of Attourney!!!

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  63. Re:WHOO HOO!!! by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 0

    Well congratulations... I saw only one post (within my threshold) before yours that was similar... but it said WOO HOO... and not WHOO HOO. So here you are... being the first one in this thread to say it.
    You must be so proud...

  64. Nobody who saw the movie would say that. Get him! by TequilaJunction · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately I'm being punished and won't ever be allowed to see the movie. At least not until I'm a supreme court judge.

  65. Season 1 vs Season 2 by blorg · · Score: 1
    Well, the Simpsons used to be about plot and writing quality rather than slick commercialism (can you say celebrity voice-overs), and some of the all-time classics are from season 1. If you get the DVD box-sets, you can see that the character art had basically matured by season 2 onwards; Groening makes this comment himself on the DVD commentary.

    I hope they release a few more complete seasons on DVD now (I think it's only up to season 3 currently) as the show only started to flag after about the first 10 years. It's amazing how it managed to be so consistently good for so long; that might also explain how it's death has been so prolonged and painful.

    1. Re:Season 1 vs Season 2 by EricWright · · Score: 5, Informative

      I agree... Bart the General was one of the very first episodes I ever saw (the 5th one ever) and I was hooked. The animation really wasn't great, but the writing was beyond compare. Two Cars in Every Garage, 3 Eyes on Every Fish (a very loose take on Citizen Kane) from early in Season 2 is probably my favorite of all!

      Burns: Amazing, isn't it Smithers? This anonymous clan of slack-jawed troglodytes has cost me the election, yet if I were to have them killed, I would be the one to go to jail. That's democracy for you.

      Smithers: You are noble and poetic in defeat, sir.

      Best. Dialog. Ever.

      My local WB affiliate is running through seasons 1 and 2 right now... brings back fond memories (even if I do have the DVD box sets).

      On the other hand, I saw Bart the Daredevil again last night. I was really struck by how poor the animation was at certain points. One in particular is where the kids are watching wrestling on the TV and start throwing popcorn at the screen. The arm motions are totally wrong... I would have to say that, by the end of season 2, the animation was getting there, but not quite yet.

      As for celebrity voice overs, the first episode with Danny Devito was in Season 2 (Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?) and the first episode where Sideshow Bob talks (Krusty Gets Busted) was in Season 1. Kelsey Grammar had been on Cheers for several years by then, although he hadn't yet spun that into Frasier.

  66. Already jumped the shark... by Shant3030 · · Score: 1

    The Simpsons semi-jumped the shark when they appeared in that God awful mastercard ad during the Super Bowl.

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    1. Re:Already jumped the shark... by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      It's not the first time the Simpsons "sold out". Remember those Butterfinger commercials a few years back?

  67. Beavis & Butthead by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

    If they can make a show like South Park, or even Beavis & Butthead (which is 2-minute snippets interspersed with video clips) into a movie, then the Simpsons should be no problem.

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    1. Re:Beavis & Butthead by tr0llb4rt0 · · Score: 1

      A full musical version of the Simpsons .... mmmm

      You've got me thinking now! :-D

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    2. Re:Beavis & Butthead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A full musical version of the Simpsons?
      Dear Lord, no, judging by the quality of most of their songs. Sure, some are great, but they are too few and far between.

    3. Re:Beavis & Butthead by thelasttemptation · · Score: 1

      Musical?

      Something like:

      Homer [sorta flintstones theam music]:
      Welcome to krusty burger,
      The greatest food in history,
      All I want is a ribwitch,
      with a billion or more calories!
      (homer is dooling as he's at the krusty burger window)

      Lisa [Slow sad, les miserables style]:
      But think of the poor animals,
      what have they done?
      bring about a saving grace,
      for your heart is nearly done!
      (zoom in on homer's heart all nasty)

      Bart [rap style]:
      Chill miss sis,
      Don't you know the cow is wack,
      the best way to serve it is in a stack!
      (Bart munches on a 10 burger stack inbetween two rolls)

      Marge:
      Now children, get along, and homer, put away the gunnnn.
      (Homer puts away the gun he was waving around to get a ribwitch)

      (horriable I know :P)

  68. So what's the plot? by NakedPenguin · · Score: 0

    Marge becomes a robot?
    Moe gets a cell phone? Or has bart ever owned a bear?
    Or a crazy wedding? Where something happens and dum do de dum dum?
    They'll never stop the simpsons!

  69. End of simpson near? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Usually a movie is released at the peak of its series.

    Southpark the movie came out, then it rode downhill ever since.

    Transformers and GIJOE the movie did the same thing.

    Is this the end of the simpsons coming? I can't think of any instance when movies were released and the show continue riding sky high afterwards.

    1. Re:End of simpson near? by Petronius · · Score: 1

      The movie will flop. It'll ruin the TV series. Yes, the end is near.

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    2. Re:End of simpson near? by papadiablo · · Score: 1

      Usually a movie is released at the peak of its series.

      If what you are saying is true, then i feel like they should have released this movie about 5 seasons ago. Most people think The Simpsons has been on a slow but steady downhill path for a couple of years now.

    3. Re:End of simpson near? by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't think that's true at all of South Park. South Park is just as funny, if not funnier, today than it was when the movie came out. The movie is great, the series is great...keep it coming.

      However, yes, the quality of the Simpsons has deteriorated somewhat, but it's still better than 99.9% of the crap on TV.

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    4. Re:End of simpson near? by Galvatron · · Score: 3, Informative
      South Park is just as funny, if not funnier, today than it was when the movie came out.

      I second that. If you haven't seen The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers, it is truly one of the most carefully done parodies I've ever seen, right down to Cartman's mimicing of Gandalf's sigh at the council in Rivendel. More recently, All About the Mormons is one of their all time best, I think.

      Simpsons I rarely watch anymore. Even if the writing hadn't deteriorated, it's like they talked about in the Itchy and Scratchy episode, the characters are just starting to get kind of boring. How many times can you really watch Homer say "d'oh!"

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    5. Re:End of simpson near? by castlec · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean 99.9% of the other crap??? I enjoy the simpsons just as much as any other, but I must admit, it's still crap, crap that I love to watch and crap that is just like everything else on fox....... crap :o)

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    6. Re:End of simpson near? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "All About the Mormons" was comic genius. The whole episode was basically a setup for the moment at the end where the mormon kid says, "You have a lot of learning to do, dude. Suck my balls." I have shown that episode to many people and none of them have been able to resist laughing to the point of tears at that last line.

    7. Re:End of simpson near? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Informative

      I disagree. The sixth series of South Park was the best yet, possibly excepting the first. They went back to their roots; each episode has a political slant to out, rather than 20 mins of beeped cussing and random nonsense that made many of the shows in between these series. I always find a show that has something to say more enjoyable (even if I disagree with what it is saying).

    8. Re:End of simpson near? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Mod down Redundant

      Same message here

    9. Re:End of simpson near? by Skyshadow · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yeah, I think a lot of people stopped watching South Park after the first two seasons. The first season was shocking stuff at the time, but then they replayed it ad infinitum while they scrambled to punch out series 2, which wasn't nearly as good as it needed to be to match expectations.

      Since then, SP has climbed back up to be something much better than it had ever been before. Season 6 and 7 have been as good as the Simpsons was in its heyday. It's just pushing another envelope than the Simpson was in the early '90s -- saying "shit" on TV, Lemmiwinks, Cartman's chili and some of the other holyGodIcan'tBelieveTheyDidThat moments owe their existance directly to the Simpsons.

      On a slightly related note, South Park is a lot like the Simpsons in the fact that it's benefitted from having a very large cast of framiliar characters that have evolved over time. Butters, Jimmy, Timmy, Token, etc.

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    10. Re:End of simpson near? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't seen South Park in a few years, but when I was last watching it it was pretty inconsistent. Some episodes were really funny, some were just preachy as hell with no humor at all. It's nice to hear that it's doing well now.

    11. Re:End of simpson near? by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 1

      Yep, and the Bart Simpson Dude (BSD) is dying. DOH!

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    12. Re:End of simpson near? by junkgoof · · Score: 2, Informative

      The first season of South Park was classic. The creators had lots of time to work on it, lots of stuff they wanted to do, lots of interest.
      BR Listen to later interviews, they're famous, bored, sick of killing Kenny, have a lousy deal on the show and make no money... They've done a few good episodes since, but the spirit is mostly gone. They are trying hard to shock instead of just running with weird, offensive storylines.

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  70. good point -- it also had to do with by sbma44 · · Score: 2, Informative

    the company hired to do the animation. I believe they only started using Akom (in Korea) for the animation during Season 2. That studio gave the show its current look.

  71. Uh by filmsmith · · Score: 1

    It's not like Groening decided "Welp! Futurama's had a good run. Pull the plug, boys!" Futurama was canceled. They would have gone on longer if they could and, in my opinion, still had at least three more good years in them.

    I, too, agree about the Simpsons, though. I turned off The Simpsons about two years ago and haven't looked back. Now, whatever TiVo picks up gets deleted unless the rundate is 1997 or earlier.

    fs

    1. Re:Uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To my understanding it wasn't cancelled, Fox simply stopped buying new episodes. Maybe they wanted to own Futurama like they own the Simpsons.

      YOU READ IT, YOU CAN'T UNREAD IT!

    2. Re:Uh by Endive4Ever · · Score: 2, Funny

      I bet 'TiVo' picks up and records lots of other crap that you watch that isn't anywhere near as good as the Post-1997 episodes you are boycotting.

      But at least you get to feel ideologically pure for all your zeal. That matters for something, in the long run. I guess.

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    3. Re:Uh by filmsmith · · Score: 1

      More importantly 'TiVo' (why are we using quotes?) allows me to avoid all the drivel that's been wrought forth under the Simpsons name for a few years now and given me more time to enjoy the outside air.

      And that's good for a lot.

      fs

  72. It's about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a killer robot driving instructor, who travels back in time for some reason. Ron Howard is attached to direct.

    1. Re:It's about... by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Is there any pie involved? A talking pie would make the movie!

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  73. It is still better than anything else.... by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Have the people who OK'd this movie actually SEEN and COMPARED newer episodes of Simpsons to ones that aired back in its' glory days? Jumped the shark a few seasons ago at least, as much as I hate to say it. This is one of those shows I wish they'd take off the air for its' own good.

    Ahh, but tell me exactly where they jumped the shark. That is the key. They haven't. They CAN'T. The nature of the show makes it impossible. Some would say that they did it when they did the 3D Homer episode - or it could be considered a classic! Maude dies? Risky, but no shark there. The rake scene? Classic.

    Here is why the Simpsons amazes me. When I see a show in first run, I think it is OK or good, and sometimes bad. But it seems that when I see it in re-run, it gets better. I think some of the ones in the last few years are really good. In fact, I thought last week's was pretty funny.

    Everyone has their favorite. Mine is an oldie - Selma's Choice. That is the one where Aunt Gladys dies, Lionel Hutz is the executor of the will, Homer eats the huge sandwich and gets sick, so Patty and Selma have to take the kids to Duff Gardens, where Lisa trips on the water and Bart tries on Beer Goggles. There is hardly a moment in that episode that I can't laugh at.

    I still love their Halloween episodes, and when they go back and enact classic stories. Behind the Laughter was awesome. Their "milestone" episode show was brilliant, with outtake clips.

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    1. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 1
      Ahh, but tell me exactly where they jumped the shark. That is the key. They haven't. They CAN'T. The nature of the show makes it impossible.

      Oh, please. The show "CAN'T" get tired? How about when they've made every "Homer is stupid and injures himself frequently" joke and had a theme show about every minor character (a show about Apu, a show about Principal Skinner, a show about Ralph Wiggum... and by now they're scraping the bottom of the barrel).



      The new shows are just forced. The humor used to be social satire, and is now either either zany slapstick or lazy surrealism.

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    2. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by qtp · · Score: 1

      South Park?

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    3. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      I'll say. Obviously they didn't pay writers for the last couple of seasons, because it was pretty much a series of shows about Homer hurting himself.

      Moronic.

    4. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by h0mer · · Score: 1

      IMO, the show jumped during the medicinal marijuana episode. It was such pandering to their (admittedly large) stoner audience.

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    5. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by rokzy · · Score: 1

      my favourite episode is probably "Homer Badman" (accused of sexual harrassment).

      just thinking of the "see you in hell, candy-boys!" scene makes me laugh.

      I think with the Simpsons, usually the best things aren't in the main story. often I'll remember the story and think an episode isn't too good, but then if I actually watch it there'll be lots of hilarious little things I didn't think of.

    6. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by gosand · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Oh, please. The show "CAN'T" get tired? How about when they've made every "Homer is stupid and injures himself frequently" joke and had a theme show about every minor character (a show about Apu, a show about Principal Skinner, a show about Ralph Wiggum... and by now they're scraping the bottom of the barrel). The new shows are just forced. The humor used to be social satire, and is now either either zany slapstick or lazy surrealism.

      I didn't say it couldn't get tired, I said it couldn't jump the shark. There is that "turning point" for the show where it is just never the same. I don't think the Simpsons can do that, just because there will always be shining moments, even in the new episodes.

      They have their moments of satire, the medical marijuana was pretty good, if not very direct. The whole Armen Tanzarian episode was a risky attempt. But what other show could even try something like that? It says something when the writers poke fun at themselves, and mention some of these questionable attempts in later episodes. Like when they were deciding where they should go on vacation, and they had a map of the US with Xs through states they had been to. At the end of that episode, which was the last of the season, they said "The Simpsons are going to Delaware!" and there was an exchange where Bart says "I want to visit a screen door factory!" Then the next season, they were on their way to Delaware. They did the same exchange. Of course, they never got there, that is the episode where they hopped the rail and rode with the Hobo who told them stories.

      They have an amazing cast of secondary and third-tier characters. They can draw on it when some of the jokes get old with the main characters. And they get creative with the flow of the episodes. Like the one episode from three different perspectives (with Linguo the robot). Or they just rip off things, and don't try to hide it. Yeah, it may get tired, but there was never a shark to jump. I think they have great episodes throughout all of their seasons. Some are better from early on, but some of the early ones clearly stink too. I think some of the premises are getting old, like Sideshow Bob, so I hope they lay off of that. Unless he dies this season! Some ancillary character is supposed to die this season. Kelsey Grammer may want to go out in a blaze of glory. That would be kind of cool.

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    7. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by moranar · · Score: 1

      I have taken to name my dog "Bort" because it reminds me of that very episode. Besides, Bort is a great name for a dog (I do not want to offend anyone named Bort, BTW).

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    8. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by gosand · · Score: 1
      I have taken to name my dog "Bort" because it reminds me of that very episode. Besides, Bort is a great name for a dog (I do not want to offend anyone named Bort, BTW).


      We are out of Bort license plates in the gift shop. Repeat. More Bort license plates to the gift shop.


      he he.

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    9. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I am adamantly anti-drug and I didn't find that episode pandering to stoners at all, except as humor. I thought it was a funny show, but let's face it, it painted pot users as complete dunderheads.

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    10. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      The show probably underwent some sort of subtle decline while Mike Scully was in charge, but he has left and it seems like the show has gotten over whatever Scully did to it.

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    11. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by cybercuzco · · Score: 1

      ob quote:
      Take these
      and these
      and these
      Thank you doctor!
      oh im not a doctor

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    12. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different episodes. Bort License plates are at Itchy and Scratchy Land, not Duff Gardens.

    13. Re:It is still better than anything else.... by gosand · · Score: 1

      D'oh

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  74. Fan reaction... by BTWR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1996: Simpsons used to be good. It sucks now. These new episodes (George Bush as a neighbor, 22 Short Films about Springfield) suck.
    1998: Simpsons hasn't been funny in years. It's best years are behind us. No good shows are made anymore (Bart and Homer become carnies, Kidz Newz). It's such a shell of what it used to be.
    2000: Man oh man do the episodes today suck. I mean, what happened to the quality episodes of yesteryear? Did you see last sunday's episode? Worst episode ever (Homer as a Food critic, Behind the Laughter, Apu has Octuplets)
    2001: Wow. There haven't been good eps in years (Bart in a boyband, "Homer's Day/Bart's Day/Lisa's Day," Praiseland)
    2002: Man, this show is SO unfunny now it's a joke. There hasn't been a good episode in like the last few years. The episodes today completely lack any humor (Homer smokes marijuana, "Angry Dad," "Springshield"). What happened to all the classic episodes, like "Homer as a Food Critic" and "George Bush as a Neighbor?"
    2004: Wow. This show sucks today. Such a shell of what it used to be.

    Can we stop with all the "Simpsons sucks!" rants? I mean, we get proven over-and-over that it's still top-notch. Point is, we've been hearing "The Simpsons Suck!" for years now, and yet it's simply not true. Every time fanboys say an episode sucks, I guarentee you 2-3 years later it's known as classic and now the new episodes suck.

    I have a theory. Perhaps simpson fans are so into the show that we know nearly every episode since it's on everyday. When these shows rerun, we see them over and over, and pick up on so many more jokes. But when we see them new for the first time, we don't catch all the humor and therefore it "suffers." Pick any episode from 3 years ago and I guarentee you people ranted how bad it was the morning after it aired. But today we have at least 3-4 classic lines from it (Example: "Trilogy of error" - 2001's season finale... definately WAY INTO the era when fanboys said the show no longer had humor and was terrible):

    Dr. Nick: Flammable means inflammable? What a country!
    Bart: How'd you find this place? Milhouse: This is where I go to cry.
    Homer: Lingro... dead? Linguo: Linguo is dead.
    Soooo many others, just from that episode. Point is, before you say how awful the show is now, realize that once the current eps hit the syndication circuit, they'll be "classic" too.

    1. Re:Fan reaction... by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      I think the problem is that the early episodes were *so* good - bart gets an F, lisa goes to washington, Lisa's Substitute for example. that it was an almost impossible act to follow.
      Later series had their classic episodes - personally I think the quality started to drop about series 10.

    2. Re:Fan reaction... by TwistedGreen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Note that it was a different audience saying why the Simpsons sucks for each time period. The Simpsons has changed now so that a different audience thinks it sucks: which includes me.

      I think it has something to do with a show's tendency to want to increase its ratings by appealing an increasingly large audience, and thus a lower and lower common denominator.

      I've noticed a palpable change in style from a coherent and intelligent storyline to a more schizophrenic twelve-episodes-in-one style, which I can't stand. But I'm sure it's more popular with the media impulse-trained L[ower]CD.

    3. Re:Fan reaction... by Avumede · · Score: 1

      I don't think you have an accurate picture of the fan reaction there. most fans, myself included, think the show was pretty bad for a few years around Season 10, and has now started getting better again.

      Of course each season has some good episodes. But the bad seasons have a lot of bad ones. C'mon, I'd like to hear you try and defend the episode with Mel Gibson.

    4. Re:Fan reaction... by thebatlab · · Score: 1

      Completely mocking hollywood? I call that a good episode. Well, the ass wagging thing didn't make a whole lot of sense unless it was symbolic of them mooning the movie industry ;)

    5. Re:Fan reaction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, I don't buy into your list of fan reactions. Well, that goes for me, anyway. I know a good episode when I see it, and some of the new ones just plain suck. I never thought the "classics" of today sucked when I first watched them years ago.

    6. Re:Fan reaction... by rnelsonee · · Score: 5, Interesting
      You have a point about warming up to episodes when you re-watch them, but it's still safe to say the show has declined.

      I always liked the show until Season 9, when it started to show bad storylines. Shows like Apu having octuplets continued to demonstrate that the writers were 'running out of ideas', but it still had respectible writing. But then it just got worse and worse. When Ian-Maxtone Graham took over as exec. producer, we saw many things concerning the show that ruined the reputation The Simpsons once had:

      • The episodes have lost cohesiveness. Acts I, II, and III are rarely tied together anymore.
      • Computer-aiding drawing. Hand animators only draw key poses, and computers interpolate the rest. The result is very clean, but I think it's too clean. The Simpsons lost it's look and feel.
      • Other "look and feel" issues: The Simpsons' animators used to only use a limited palette of colors. We're talking one or two shades of light blue, and one or two shades of pink. Now, there's an overuse of colors. Classic examples include lighted/muted colors for background objects, and shadows everywhere - like the back of Lisa's hair - even when everyone's indoors!
      • Too topical: The Simpsons relies on jokes taken from current events. Yes, they did this in early seasons, but nowhere near as much as they do now. The timeless quality the writers put into the show in the past is gone now.
    7. Re:Fan reaction... by BTWR · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you kidding? Well, I guess we each have our own tastes, but I loved that episode! Some of my fav lines:

      Gibson: You want me to replace the villain with a dog? I mean nobody will know what's going on.
      Homer: They will if you set up that the dog is evil. All you do is have to show him doing this. [lowers eyelids and glances around in shifty-eyed fashion] The people will suspect the dog.

      Homer: (from the press gallery) I second that motion. (holds up a rifle) With a vengeance! (tosses rifle to Gibson) (Catching the rifle, Gibson jumps up on a table and quips, "All in favor, say die."

      Homer: "It's funny if you make everything fast-motion!" [cue opening movie in 3x speed, with 3x voices]

      Robin [Burt Ward, to Adam West]: Shutup! We're not supposed to talk!

      Executive #1: Oh my G-d! He's a Dummy!
      Executive #2: Yeah, but he sells tickets!
      (Test driving the electric car:) Homer: Salt water seems to be good for it. (The car blows up.)

      "Liked it despite the abscence of flubber...Glaven?" - Mel Gibson reading Prof. Frink's review

    8. Re:Fan reaction... by MonolithicX · · Score: 1

      This could be the most perceptive and insightful /. post ever.

      Preach on 540147, Preach On

    9. Re:Fan reaction... by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      Netcraft confirms it: The Simpsons are dying.

      (insert rest of classic troll here)

    10. Re:Fan reaction... by vryhpyammoadded · · Score: 1

      I still think the Simpson's are great and they have never "dipped" in appeal. Screw the ratings. Long live the Simpson's! Ok, maybe it's time seeing the makers complaining about losing interest.

      Top three favorite Homerisms
      Homer singing The Joker.
      Homer and President Ford talking beer and falling down.
      Ummm, forbidden doughnut...

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    11. Re:Fan reaction... by MCZapf · · Score: 1

      Add to the list that they are too self-referential these days (or at least when I stopped watching). Not an episode goes by where they don't make some dig at themselves, or the Fox network, or something of the sort. I really think it's stupid.

    12. Re:Fan reaction... by MCZapf · · Score: 1
      1996: Simpsons used to be good. It sucks now. These new episodes (George Bush as a neighbor, 22 Short Films about Springfield) suck.

      I don't understand. Are you saying you didn't like those episodes? People you know didn't like them? Personally, I liked both of them from the get-go. The idea of George Bush losing his temper and doing doughnuts in the Simpsons' yard was hilarious!

    13. Re:Fan reaction... by tholomyes · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

      Homer: "Me like beer."

      Lingwo (correcting him): "I like beer!"

      *glug, glug, fizzle, pop*

      Homer: "Oh, I'm sorry, honey. I thought he was a party robot!"

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    14. Re:Fan reaction... by NoseSocks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never dipped in appeal?

      Most of my friends who were once die hard Simpson fans (would watch the current episodes and the 3 re-runs played during the day) watch it rarely these days. I've tried to watch it, but it seems the Simpsons today are a part of the television they used to rise above and mock in early seasons.

      The problem is, the Simpsons used to be closely-knit stories with many low-brow and high-brow jokes mixed in, often in the form of references to other movies. It's lost that cohesion, and other shows blow it out of the water on the humor they try.

      Political Satire - South Park addresses this all too well these days
      Obscure references - Family Guy, while now only in reruns, did this better than recent Simpsons
      Bizarre Factor - Adult Swim shorts (Sealab 2021, ATHF, and SGC2C) blows the Simpsons out of the water on this factor.
      The Ending with a Smile Factor - Home Movies on Adult Swim leaves a smile on my face by the end of every episode. The combination of innocence and clever witt is phenominal

    15. Re:Fan reaction... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      actually, its because it change to parody the topics of today. and some people only like to look bacck on a specific period of time.
      Like "the simpsons was good when I was in high schooln now it sucks."
      Some people are like that with music. "Everything sucks now, not like back in my day."

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    16. Re:Fan reaction... by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Ian Maxtone-Graham was head writer. Mike Scully was producer. But those two events happened around the same time, and both people are widely percieved as "being the spawn of Satan," so your confusion is understandable. Some other problems associated with them include "stupidly wacky plots," and "characters becoming obnoxious caricatures of themselves."

      Luckily, Ian and Mike have both left the show.

      I don't really think the computer-aided drawing is a huge factor, although I admit it looked better before.

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    17. Re:Fan reaction... by BTWR · · Score: 1

      no no, my point was that simpsons fans have continually been saying that the show is going downhill, yet there have continually been classic episodes ever since the "jump the shark" talks began...

    18. Re:Fan reaction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People like you remind me of Homer.. "everyone's stupid except me". The mob... the teeming masses, they're all stupid, arent they? You are the smartest one.. smarter than them all.

    19. Re:Fan reaction... by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

      Some people are only fond of 'old episodes' due to the nostalgia factor, true. And it is also true that the subject matter has shifted. But I think there have been some very clear and noticeable changes in style since a few years ago. And these are objective changes, not just changes in perception. Specifically, the format has changed to a more fast-paced type of storytelling and I think that quality has suffered because of this compression.

  75. hollywood.slashdot.org by musikit · · Score: 1

    so when is there gonna be a section for anime/tv/movies?

    1. Re:hollywood.slashdot.org by BTWR · · Score: 1

      there'd be too many film geeks whining how all the best tv/movies are from japan, UK, etc. (not that they make bad stuff by any means, but they would simply whine at the "americanized" version of the term "hollywood")

    2. Re:hollywood.slashdot.org by musikit · · Score: 1

      so how would this be different from the Mac/Linux/Windows/VxWorks/IE/Mozilla/Opera zealots out there already?

  76. Live action :( by rnelsonee · · Score: 3, Informative
    Producer Mike Reiss has been talking about this movie recently. Keep in mind that two weeks ago, he said the movie would most likely be live-action, a la Scooby Doo.

    And frankly, that sucks. I've been a fan of The Simpsons show since the first episode in 1989, so I've seen it decline. At this point, the movie might not suck if it was 2D. But live-action/CGI won't cut it.

    South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut did well, because it was an extention of the show. Imagine if the South Park movie was live-action: it would've tanked.

    Hopefully Groening and co. will pull this off, but I have my doubts...

    1. Re:Live action :( by harryman100 · · Score: 1

      Live action works in some situations, but I'm not sure it will for the Simpsons. The simpsons works really well as a cartoon, as did the flintstones, which was turned into quite a good movie. I am sure there are other examples.

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  77. If you're too lazy to google "jump the shark" by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Q. What is jumping the shark?
    A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill.
    The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark." The rest is history.
    www.jumptheshark.com

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    1. Re:If you're too lazy to google "jump the shark" by tm2b · · Score: 2, Funny

      Right. Like, the opening credits for Enterprise is such a moment.

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    2. Re:If you're too lazy to google "jump the shark" by sfjoe · · Score: 1

      That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill.

      Unfortunately, I am old enough to have actually watched Happy Days and saw the "shark jump" episode firsthand. Happy Days was going downhill for some time and the shark episode is simply a vivid marker of the decline. It wasn't like it was:
      brilliant
      brilliant
      brilliant
      shark jump
      crap
      crap
      cancelled.
      The "shark jump" episode can only be recognized as such in hindsight.

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    3. Re:If you're too lazy to google "jump the shark" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So true...

      Nice music... nice animations... you feel like floating in space yourself, but then...

      [zap]

  78. Will there be more than by zuikaku · · Score: 1

    "53% new footage"?

  79. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember him from such voice-overs as Jiji the cat in the English dub of Majo no Takkyubin.

    Many people hated that version of Jiji, but I have to say I quite liked it. Different from the original but still great fun.

  80. No SImpsons movie for me :/ by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1

    I love the Simpsons, but I don't see how making a movie (in other words, 3 to 4 episodes knitted together) will do any good to the 'legacy'.
    Alot of series-gone-to-screen, have been turned into awful products , defenitely if they tried to convert something that is supposed to be lasting half an hour, turn into something lasting one and a half hour.
    Imo, if they don't do it in a special way, that won't turn this movie into a 1.5 hour episode, they will hurt the series.

  81. Contracted or optioned? by Galvatron · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article, as far as I can see, just says that they've "signed" to do the movies. That doesn't necessarily mean they've been contracted to actually do the movies. More likely, I'd imagine they've signed a contract saying "if these movies happen, we'll do them for thus and such amount of money, but if they don't happen, then we won't," which is known as an option, because it gives the studio the option to do or not do the movies at their discretion. Sometimes in the case of book rights, they'll pay a certain amount for the option (kind of like a signing bonus), and then an additional amount if the movie actually gets made.

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  82. I won't be able to see it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My parents grounded me because I was bad and my Mom wants me to become a Supreme Court Justice... So they won't let me see it...

  83. "El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Homer" by blorg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Homer's chilli-trip is one of the classics, 'cinematography' wise. My gf teaches art history, and used this episode in one of her classes, asking her students to recognise the different artists parodied.

    1. Re:"El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Homer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume you mean, apart from the episode "Mom and Pop Art", cause that episode's pretty obvious.

  84. Beavis and Butthead by citizenc · · Score: 1

    Love them or hate them, Beavis and Butt-head Do America was EXACTLY what it needed to be. I hope Groening follows Judge's lead. :)

  85. Jumping the Shark is a definite possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's a sad thought, but this could be the end of The Simpsons.

    1. Re:Jumping the Shark is a definite possibility by Beardydog · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see it end. Watching the Simpsons the last 4 years has been like watching a loved one die slowly of an incurable disease.

  86. The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by blorg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We should remember that Sideshow Bob was an actual character, he wasn't playing Kelsey Grammar. But even beyond this, the early celebrity voice-overs were great. The problem only began when they started working the episodes around the celebrities, rather than working the celebrities into an episode. I think Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger were the start of this.

    1. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by EricWright · · Score: 1

      Too true... can you say "ick!"? Oh, and don't forget Opie, I mean Ronny^H^H Howard. He helped make that episode a true dog.

    2. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by Finuvir · · Score: 1

      James Woods was the only celebrity-playing-himself that was funny. Ever. All of the rest sucked. Most of the celebrity voice-overs that played characters were good. Now someone please contradict me.

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    3. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1
      What about Hawking? Woods was good, but Hawking was better. Lucy Lawless was another good one.

      All generalizations suck. (yes. you see the irony.)

    4. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by John+Harrison · · Score: 1

      Adam West doing the Batussey wasn't funny?

    5. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by Finuvir · · Score: 1

      Now that's why I asked to be contradicted! I knew someone'd think of something I overlooked. Do you come with the car?

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    6. Re:The problem with the celebrity voice-overs by boskone · · Score: 1

      I probably agree with you overall except for "homer at the bat" which was all celebrities, but one of my favorites. Yes, I do play the "softball" song in my car sometimes...

  87. F-word by TrevizeNet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, since the article says they plan to rip-off South Park BL&U, which Simpsons character will be the first to say the F-Word. Bart, Homer, and Crusty would be a bit too obvious. Personally I'd like to see how Flanders would deal with uttering the unholiest of all profanities.

    1. Re:F-word by nertz_oi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've always thought of the Simpsons as a family show...at least compared with today's South Park, Family Guy etc. Its genius was that it really didn't have to stoop to using swear words to get laughs, and i would be really surprised if fuck was used in the movie.

    2. Re:F-word by oshy · · Score: 1

      I never thought of it as suitable for younger members of the family. Just look at all the references to porn in the show.

      Lisa: "That story isn't suitable for children."
      Chief Wiggum: "Really? I keep my pants on in this version.".

  88. Simpson's are so old fashioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be cool if Pixar picked up the movie?

  89. Obligatory Homer Paraphrase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Yeah, Moe, that movie sure did suck last night. It just plain sucked! I've seen movies suck before, but those writers were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked."

  90. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, I wish I had mod points. That's the funniest post so far on this thread!

  91. End of the series? by Aslan72 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, I recall a Matt Groening interview where he had said that the only way that they would do a simpsons movie is if the series is coming to an end. He'd mentioned that the movie would, in effect, cap off the story. I hope this isn't the case...I still really enjoy that show. --pete

  92. ya think? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    with the kind of following the Simpsons have, I fully expect, 20 years after the last Simpsons episode, a The Simpsons: The Next Generation (TS:TNG for short) series.

    1. Re:ya think? by BillyBlaze · · Score: 1

      They've already done that. After not marying a European, Lisa becomes President. Bart is a bum, but a good diplomat. Marge doesn't understand the concept of picturephones. Maggie looks just like Lisa but with thinner hair-spikes, and Maggie Jr. is the exact same as Maggie was.

  93. Now I finally know where Comic Book Guy went by Uncle+Eazy · · Score: 3, Funny

    when he went to Alt.Nerd.Obsessive.

  94. MASh did end with a movie-cum-episode by ianscot · · Score: 1
    The MASH series did end with a "movie-length finale" just like the parent said. The poster wasn't referring to Robert Altman's movie.

    (Depending on your Google results, the MASH finale seems to have remained the highest-rated prime-time show ever.

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  95. no more closed captioning for the simpsons.... by freejamesbrown · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    doh!!!

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/aut o/ epaper/editions/sunday/opinion_0442326e064c624b009 9.html

    i know it's off-topic... but...
    m.

    1. Re:no more closed captioning for the simpsons.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Link in a more friendly format Link

    2. Re:no more closed captioning for the simpsons.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article:

      "The Department of Education is

      • refusing to reveal the names
      of the panel members whose opinions determined the caption grants and also won't disclose the new guidelines. By every appearance, the government has changed its definition of what constitutes a caption-worthy program. But it's keeping the new rules secret."

      "They apparently used a panel of five individuals and then made the censorship decisions based on the individuals' recommendations," Mr. Brick says. "We have found the identity of one of the panelists. This individual tells us that he never knew he was on such a panel and that his views would be used for censorship. No panel was convened. The five panelists were contacted individually and separately."

      USA really scares me sometimes, glad I'm not a citizen.

  96. Please, God . . . by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 0

    . . . don't let it be John Goodman.

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      But dear god let it be George Carlin. Rodney Dangerfield would be interesting too.

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      "It's so obvious it should be Gary Oldman!" -- Homer, while choking Bart, in "I Am Furious Yellow"

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  97. Beavis and Buthead by horza · · Score: 1

    I thought the South Park movie dragged quite a lot. For me a big success was "Beavis and Buthead the Movie". I detest the cartoon. I don't find it in the slightest bit funny. I was dragged kicking to the cinema to watch it by a girlfriend. Possibly one of the funniest ever animated films. The movie is hilarious.

    Phillip.

  98. Who will Star? by red+floyd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More importantly, will Troy McClure star in the movie?

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    1. Re:Who will Star? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's dead; at least the character that played him is.

    2. Re:Who will Star? by unborracho · · Score: 5, Informative

      unfortunately, the voice of Troy McClure is dead... and for that I get to call you an insensitive clod.

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  99. Reminds me of Christopher Guest movies by ianscot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Lots of Christopher Guest's fans have the same reaction to each new movie when it comes out. "It's okay, but not up to the standard he's set," you know?

    I never saw "Waiting for Guffman" in the theater, but enjoyed it a little when I first saw it on VHS. Was it as funny as Spinal Tap? Seemed like it wasn't on that level. Next time around, it really grew on me. "Best in Show" I made a point of seeing in the dark box, and it was -- eh, okay, I guessed. Then about a year later someone had the DVD -- and hey, that's really funny, you know? "A Mighty Wind" we all agreed wasn't quite up to par with the earlier movies that we now thought were classics... But it's amazing how often someone throws out a line from it now, for a beneath-the-radar movie.

    I'd definitely connect Christopher Guest's humor to the Simpsons', somehow. Not sure what it is, but they're just satisfying in the same way. And they grow on you.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of Christopher Guest movies by BTWR · · Score: 1

      perfect analogy. you got my point exactly. In 3 years, they'll long for the "good old episodes" like the one when marge taught the students history (last sunday's episode)

  100. Perfectly cromulent idea by Todd+Fisher · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think a Simpsons movie will imbiggen all of society.

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  101. Transformers the movie, you say? by ianscot · · Score: 1
    Lots of the other examples you offer were just dogs, examples of a studio cashing in with a lame "big episode." The first Transformers movie, though, is way above the standard of the TV shows.

    "Transformers" shows up in animation festivals, still, and that puzzled me until I saw it with the kids. I mean, I'm a Citizen Kane sort of movie watcher (a favorite DVD, it's fantastic), and seeing Orson Welles in the credits made me wince for him, you know? How low could he go? But it's one of those totally unlikely good, entertaining movies.

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  102. HSX by halo8 · · Score: 0

    DANG DIDDLY DAMMIT!!!

    i was checking my account at HollyWoods Stock Exchange yesterday.. JUST yesterday and Simpsons was at $4... and i thought.. hey that would be a neat movie to buy... but i didnt.. now its traiding at $12.. and you just know its going to sky rocket.

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  103. A Question by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    With the jump to the silver screen, will Bart continue do his own stunts?

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  104. Simpsons live strong.. by Ninwa · · Score: 0

    People keep saying that The Simpsons will go downhill after this movie just like everyone else, and other people are saying they've already gone downhil. I'd have to stay they started at the bottom of the hill...but as long as people like mindless humor they will live strong in their fortified vally of uberstupidity!

  105. Fitting end to a great show by mmuskratt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now that the Simpsons has started to lose its touch, the kiss of death appears, a movie. Once you resort to making a movie, you signify the beginning of the end for a tv show. This season's schizophrenic and dull writing has really impacted my view of The Simpsons, it is just not the same anymore, not as funny. I've been a fan since viewing it at Spike and Mike's in the late 80's, witnessing the shows on the big screen instead of on the Tracy Ullman show. I was a big fan of Groenig, having read his Life in Hell strips in my sister's UCLA Bruin, around the same time that Bill the Cat was forming Deathtongue. In the mid nineties, we'd gather at the Rat and Raven in San Francisco, watch the show over a beer, and shush anyone who was blasphemous enough to actually talk during the show. This is in a full bar, mind you, where the commercial breaks were the only time you could get a refill.

    The 30 minute format (including commercials, of course) is perfect for the show, how they'll pull off a full-length animated feature, I don't know. I do know, however, that the show has lost some of its luster. The writing doesn't seem as good, and I can only think that being that funny for 10+ years has to take a toll on creativity. The movie will have devoted followers, and loyal fans, as well as critics and naysayers. Having been into the Simpsons since its inception, my opinion is that a movie will change things forever. I wish I could be excited about it, I will go, of course, but I can only wish that my doubts are completely unjustified, and I get a pleasant surprise.

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  106. Flanders.... by mattyohe · · Score: 1

    William H Macy has to play Flanders.

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    1. Re:Flanders.... by johndoejersey · · Score: 1

      He would steal the entire show, excellent choice!

  107. Moive Plot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now, I have no idea what the plot of the Simpsons movie is going to be, but I am fairly certain that the second half of the movie with have nothing to do with the first half. :)

  108. Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why would they do that? There is no Bender in Simpsons.

  109. The trolls are quite here. by kermyt · · Score: 1

    anyone else notice the markedly high signal to noise ratio with this topic? Any else notice the lack troll material to be modded down? I really believe this will be one of the most "up" moderated topics I have seen here on slashdot. -- Subvert the dominant paradigm

  110. Makes sense because... by LighthouseJ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Matt Groening signed his contract that includes 2 movies, this one and another one. Also, Groening has a 15 year contract, which ends at the end of the current The Simpsons season. I'm willing to see of Fox will renew or if Matt Groening will refuse, everyone knows The Simpsons has been hinting at the fact they've overstayed the welcome. However, don't get me wrong, I am still a fan and enjoy every episode, but I'd rather they go out with a bang instead of a whimper.

  111. Wonderfull by panxerox · · Score: 1

    an episode of the simpsons that you would have to --pay $-- to see. ahhh no...

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  112. Hand Drawn vs. Digital by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The big /. question that nobody seems to be commenting on is whether or not the movie will be hand drawn or digitally produced. According to Groening on the (Simpson's) season three and Futurama (season two) commentary is that this season's shows are now all digital.

    Digital seems to be the preferred method because you don't need a legion of Koreans (look at the credits of the original series) to draw/paint the cells, resulting in cheaper costs and scenes can be played over and changed to better suit the mood of the scene in almost real time.

    I think this is the reason why the more recent seasons have not had the great "camera work" of the early ones and why Futurama looks so great in comparison.

    Where this is leading is if Digital is taken advantage of (like Futurama) it means that there will probably be a different visual style to the movie (and the latest seasons) due to what digital composition allows. While this season's shows haven't really shown the advantages of digital, I wonder if the movie will take advantage of it to give us a whole new look on an old classic.

    myke

  113. It Had To Be Said... by leinerj · · Score: 2, Funny

    Worst....Movie....Ever

    Thank you I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

  114. Re:Had to Be Posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Learn to use apostrophes dickhead.

  115. you guys are crazy by Myopic · · Score: 1

    i don't know what so many people are complaining about. i think the Simpsons is hilarious today just as it was in the past. for one, i'm totally glad they stopped having stupid plots that revolved around Bart, and concentrated instead on the whole family and the whole town.

    also, let me note that the characters get into implausable situations BECAUSE IT IS A CARTOON. if they were shooting for realism, IT WOULDN'T NEED TO BE A CARTOON.

    i'm just sayin'.

  116. More importantly by pokeyburro · · Score: 1

    More importantly: will they serve donuts at the concession stand?

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  117. you know it will be a musical by cubyrop · · Score: 1

    the simpsons writers absolutely love showing off that they can write convincing musical theater. they also remain dogmatically naive in failing to realize that no fan is interested in seeing how well they do songs.

    the worst episodes in simpsons history have been ones with songs. and yet, if you put your hand on your heart and close your eyes, you just KNOW this movie will be a musical.

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    1. Re:you know it will be a musical by Reducer2001 · · Score: 0
      the worst episodes in simpsons history have been ones with songs

      I'm not sure of the episode name, the one where Bart works at the bordello (you mean the brothel?) had a song in it, and that was one of the better episodes!

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    2. Re:you know it will be a musical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the worst episodes in simpsons history have been ones with songs.


      Like the Stonecutters?

    3. Re:you know it will be a musical by cranos · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ, some of the best episodes have contained musical numbers.

      The bordello, Side Show Bob singing an entire Gilbert and Sullivan score, Monorail, Apu and the Quickie Mart and so on.

      I think its part of the Simpsons charm that they don't just stick to the tried and tested methods and branch out.

  118. Re:Simpsons by arose · · Score: 1
    Simpsons (Score:-1, Redundant)
    Now that is insightful.
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  119. Hmm. Is it too late? by OS24Ever · · Score: 1

    This series has definitely jumped the shark. This season especially is dry & rather boring really lacking some of the punch and social commentary over the last few years. I hope they can put some fresh air into the series, otherwise it's getting done. There have been several episodes the last few that I've just jumped to the end on the TiVo and deleted vs. watching them.

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  120. Opportunity for a Spinal Tap reunion gig? by Stew_Pidbeatch · · Score: 1

    It'd be awesome if Harry Shearer got together with Michael McKeon and Christopher Guest to reunite Derek Smalls, David St Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel in the movie ... mabye Homer could be a roadie for them.

    1. Re:Opportunity for a Spinal Tap reunion gig? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Harry Shearer got together with Michael McKeon and Christopher Guest to reunite Derek Smalls, David St Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel


      For a second there I thought you said Derek Smart!

  121. plausibility by sacrilicious · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I think it's pretty clear to everyone that the series has never been as good as it was during seasons 3-6.

    "Me too", i.e. that's certainly their golden age as far as I'm concerned.

    The thing that made the Simpsons great was its loving, hilarious-yet-almost-plausible depiction of a small town and all of its quirky inhabitants. It stopped doing that a long time ago and started sending the main characters on ludicrous adventures crammed full of celebrity cameos -- in a nutshell, situational humor rather than character-based humor.

    I think you've stated the stylistic change accurately, and I agree that the quality (or at least my interest) flagged in tandem with that change. It's interesting to muse on Futurama in this light. I like Futurama a lot; I suppose that could be because it's plausible in the sense that it's so far in the future that nobody can really argue that such things won't come to pass. Another possibility is that through its outlandish characters and depictions of technology and culture, the show never tried for a premise of plausibility... so it never transitioned to less plausibility and therefor never fostered the resentment of an audience that had come to appreciate plausibility. Food for thought.

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    1. Re:plausibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Futurama jumped the shark when they brought in the kid characters. They're showing the repeats on Cartoon Network every night, and the episodes with the kid characters are unwatchable and totally unfunny.

  122. SCREAMAPILLAR!! by flikx · · Score: 1

    I hope that the screamapillar will be in the movie.

    AUGHGHAHAGHAHGAGHAAAAHGHGUGHAHAGHG!!

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  123. Maybe.. by 56ksucks · · Score: 1

    ... in the movie... They'll actually age!

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  124. About Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I have to say is thats about time that a movie is being made with the simpsons in it.

  125. Simpsons Drinking Game... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody played that? Basically, every time Homer says "D'oh!" you throw one back. I wonder how many fatalities will result from doing this with the movie...

  126. You bastards! by frankmu · · Score: 1

    you slashedotted Jumptheshark.com!!!

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  127. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by jameskojiro · · Score: 0

    Get the Guy who did Zapp Branagans voice in Futurama to play Troy McClure! They sound almost the same, infact Zapp Branagan was supposed to be voiced by Phil Hartman before he died.

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  128. R.W. by Scrameustache · · Score: 1
    the characters of The Simpsons aren't "simple."

    "My cat's breath smells like cat food!"

    "Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a viking!"

    ;-)

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    You can't take the sky from me...

  129. family guy movie by frission · · Score: 1

    according to IMDB there's also supposed to be a family guy movie...i just hope it's true http://imdb.com/title/tt0385690/

  130. The Simpsons the Musical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am very afraid that the Simpson's animated movie will be another musical like Southpark was.

    With the exception of "See my Vest", there hasn't been any great songs on the Simpsons. I think that the way this could really flourish is if they got all kids of amazing guests like they always do.

  131. He has got to be in it! by Hi,+I'm+Troy+McClure · · Score: 1
    Fade in from black, Troy McClure walks on to the screen

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure! You might remember me from such films as The Simpsons 2: Doh! Doh!, and The Simpsons 3: Mmmmm... Money.

    ... errr...

    just kidding, boys and girls! This is the first Simpsons full-length feature.

    No, really!

    Why would we already have the sequels planned?

    Troy walks offstage. Cue Simpsons theme music

    Here's to hoping they find a great Phil Hartman imitator for his voice.

  132. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh, come on mods, the Free Ride reference should get me out of the "redundant" camp...

  133. Hello, I'm troy McLure... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    You may remember me from:
    Dead and Gone, 6 feet under, and pushing up daisies.

    say what you want, but I bet Phil Hartmen would appreciate the humor.

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  134. Ignore your own references often? by DoctorHibbert · · Score: 2, Informative

    You claim that because he wrote more episodes, he had a greater contribution to the show. However, if you actually read the New Yorker article, you'll see that the lead author basically just writes the plot. The episode author also writes gags and jokes, however once its written it basically gets ripped apart and gags and jokes and even plots are added/deleted/changed around by the writers as a group.

    So just because Conan didn't write more episodes doesn't mean he didn't add more hilarity.

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    1. Re:Ignore your own references often? by sbma44 · · Score: 1
      As I said -- every staff writer contributes. I think writing more scripts is not a bad indicator of how much of a role in shaping the show someone has. The article also says that Meyer is relied on more for this post-script punch-up process than anyone else. It implies strongly that if not for that, he'd have even more script credits.

      The script authorship issue aside, I think the article is pretty clearly in favor of my position. A quote cited in the story sums it up: "I'd rather make George Meyer laugh than win an emmy" -- quote from Ian Maxtone Graham, another staff writer. Meyer was/is *the* Simpsons writer. From the show's failure to return to form when he came back I have to assume he's lost a step, but during it's heyday he was the most influential writer on staff.

      I just don't understand why so many people are so attached to the idea that Conan was the font of all hilarity on the Simpsons. It's like they think they've discovered a great secret no one else knows when they see his name in the credits, and are unwilling to give up their membership in that secret brotherhood by admitting that he played a part, but isn't the whole story (or even most of it). The fact is that Conan's humor, as embodied by the sketches on his show, is wild and surreal. It's very funny, but it's not really the type of humor that made the Simpsons as great as it was.

    2. Re:Ignore your own references often? by gumpish · · Score: 1

      It's very funny, but it's not really the type of humor that made the Simpsons as great as it was.

      Says you.

  135. Simpson's been off the air for years by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1

    And I get three channels of Fox on DirecTV. No simpsons....

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  136. Re:Had to Be Posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, dickheads use apostrophes.

  137. What will be Spongebob's fate? by RowdyReptile · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the upcoming Spongebob movie will have the same effect on that tv show?

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  138. Anime Doesn't Really Count by cyranoVR · · Score: 1

    Funny you should mention Cowboy Bebop...I suppose you could also add to that list Macross, Evangelion, Escaflowne, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Gundam W and many others that didn't make it to the US - Not to mention all the Ramna 1/2 and Inuyasha movies (3?) that exist.

    I purposely left out anime, because Japanese marketing "rules" are a bit different than the US's. In Japan, it seems like almost every anime series gets a theatrical release - even if they just paste together footage from the TV episodes.

    Furthermore, successful TV shows are quickly made into full-length movies, even though most TV shows are only 24 episodes long (note how there is no second season of Cowoboy Beebop). It's their standard formula. Compare with Simpsons, X-Files, Beavis etc. which only get movies after years of proven popularity.

    Personally, I noticed a decline in the Pokemon fad after the movie broke. Maybe the cartoon is still going (with improved animation quality), but stateside the big thing with "the kids" now is Yu-Gi-Oh.

    Firewalk with Me came after the regular TV series ended...so in a weird way it almost follows the pattern of Japanese TV/Movies.

  139. Re:George W. Bush touched my junk conservatively by xtrucial · · Score: 0

    I like your stories, grampa.

  140. Now That's Ironic! by MonkeyGone2Heaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Alanis Morissette and yourself, share a problem with the definition of irony.

    I once heard a comedian go on an extended rant on how the events in Alanis' song, while unfortunate, weren't ironic.
    My two favorite examples of irony that he gave:

    Scotsmen cloning sheep.

    Naming the U.S. National Airport after the guy who fired all of the air traffic controllers (Reagan National Airport).

    1. Re:Now That's Ironic! by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      So, either you're a George Carlin fan, or you're a fan of spomeone who steals Gorge Carlin's work. :)

  141. AMEN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  142. Please don't kill the chicken by spun · · Score: 1

    I don't care how much it cries, or how close those enemy soldiers are getting.

    I watched this when I was a kid, and I can still remember the damatic twist (it's not a chicken.)

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  143. Irony article by sbszine · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone who's interested should have a look at this big blurb about irony. It discusses the philosophical roots and modern usage, and takes the mandatory swipe at Alanis.

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  144. Re:How could possibly be done without Troy McClure by LegendLength · · Score: 1

    I was hoping this too, he is a great voice man.

    My favorite Futurama episode is the early one where he cuts the ceremony ribbon with the ship's laser. Some great gags throughout.

  145. WHY WAS I PROGRAMMED TO FEEL PAIN? by Benwick · · Score: 1

    I agree, I stopped watching the Simpsons about four or five years ago when they stopped being that funny. Know what, I STILL get all the Simpsons references people (on /. and elsewhere) make, because they're all from older episodes!

    If you stopped watching the Simpsons four or five years ago, you wouldn't recognize more recent Simpsons quotes! Worst logic ever! :)

  146. They'll never stop the Simpsons by MisterMoney · · Score: 1

    sung at the end of a clip show (where one of the images during the song is homer jumping a shark - clad in a fonziesque leather jacket)

    Ullman shorts
    Christmas show
    Marge's fling
    Homer's bro
    Bart in well
    Flanders fails
    Whacking snakes
    Monorail

    Mr. Plow
    Homer's face
    Sideshow Bob
    Steps on rakes

    Lisa's future
    Selma's hubby
    Marge not proud
    Homer chubby

    Homer worries Bart is gay
    Poochie, U2, NRA
    Hippies, Vegas, and Japan
    Octupulets and Bart's boy band

    Marge murmurs
    Maude croaks
    Lisa Buddhist
    Homer tokes

    Maggie blows Burns away
    What else do I have to say?!

    They'll never stop 'The Simpsons'
    Have no fears
    We got stories for years
    Like...

    Marge becomes a robot
    Maybe Moe gets a cell phone
    Has Bart ever owned a bear
    Or...

    How 'bout a crazy wedding
    Where something happens and do-do-do-do-do
    Sorry for the clip show

    Have no fears
    We got stories for years...

  147. hmmm by comet69 · · Score: 1

    yea i agree with the dood down below...

    i really hope its not a musical.. a friend of mine made a good point.. almost all cartoon movies are musicals.. dont get me wrong though, southpark was a genius.. the musical score was brilliant.. but beavis and butthead do america did fine without the whole musical aspect.. and i know the simpsons could kick all of their asses if they just stuck with original simpsons humor..

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  148. vs Bigger Longer and Uncut by resurepus · · Score: 1

    my guess that the movie will be quite a success judging from the popularity the South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut had and still has!