People don't have to know how to build an enginer to drive a car.
Absolutely. But you do need to know about the ignition, steering wheel, gas and brake pedels, turn signals, speedometer, gas level indicator, seat belts, windshield wipers, lights, clutch etc.
People have to learn how to drive, but they don't want to learn how to use a computer. I can get drive one car, get into another and even though it's not the same I can drive it. Change someone's UI on a computer just a bit and they'll go nuts and be unable to do anything. How odd.
I love my Treo 300. I've talked about it a couple of times before on slashdot, even made a couple postings from it!
I also use Sprint, in the Southeast, and get great connections just about everywhere. Data speeds tend to be very well too. And with a third party app I can download and install programs using the wireless link! No more waiting to get back to my base station to install something.
I became hooked on the Palm OS tools as a PDA with a Visor, which I gave to my girlfriend about a year ago. So for Christmas she got me the Treo, great trade, 'eh?
Actively using the wireless portion of it does drain the battery, and talk time isn't as good as it could be, but the battery changes amazingly fast and in "standby" mode (wireless on, no active connections) the battery will last about a week.
Oddly enough, I also use Eudora. I wish it had an email "push" or a "check for new messages every X minutes" feature more like a RIM Blackberry, but I'm okay without it. TreoMail offers that, but it's a subscription service.
The lack of expandability isn't too much of an issue for me. The only thing I'd like to add to it is GPS. Between my family and friends we've got a decent "hand-me-down" system where when someone gets new hardware, the old hardware goes to whoever needs / wants it the most. In a few years when I'm ready for something better I'll pass it on to someone else.
In short, the complete PalmOS line of application, the SDK, mobile internet (at good speeds), color screen, it's everything I could want right now.
My 3G "phone" is a Handspring Treo 300. Since it runs any PalmOS app I have my choice of email clients, many of which support POP3 etc.
This combination of cell phone, PDA, and wireless internet (ssh, pop, web, and even VNC!) is perfect for me. The sprint PCS plas rock. I'm actually posting from it right now!
My previous was an i85s, which supported SMS with an email to ssh gateway. I wrote a little perl script to forward mail only from people on a preapproved list. That was so painful compared to my Treo.
I got it for Christmas and I just can't put it down!
I'm responding to you via my new Habdspring Treo, a generous gift from my girlfriend. It's great. Treo 300, phone, PDA, wireless internet, emails, color screen... even an ssh client and (this scares me) a VNC client. with a thumb keyboard on it I get decent typing speeds and unlimited PCS Vision for data rocks too.
and with the multitude of applicatons for PalmOS, there's ton of programs available. I recently got the SDK working and will be writing my own to fill the gap.
There's a few things lacking though, I want an email client that alerts (vibrates) on new messages (like the RIM Blackberry does) an AOL I'm client that doesn't crash it, and while I'm at it I'll take a web browser that open more than one page at a time and mutlitasking too.
all is all, I love it. Many in my family have clies, blackberrys, cell phone, and / or visors. I would trade my treo for anything.
I actually did give a friend of mine coal for christmas this year as his actual present, complete with stoccking. Of course it was a piece off the Titanic, which next to his piece of the original transatlantic telegraph, but still made an amusing gift.
Only if you use the same machine to do both internal and wireless DHCP. That's why the two networks are kept completely seperate, connected only by what we'll call the "wireless gateway"
So the "wireless gateway" hands out IPs to the wireless folks (in a different range from the internal network) and acts as the VPN router for the wireless. That's all that box should do. Then it has no effect on the internal network except for routing authorized network traffic.
Why not use a DHCP server that hands out IP addresses that aren't part of your internal network. e.g. if you're internal network is 192.168.0.x, then have it hand out 192.168.1.x addresses. Then use any sort of VPN to connect to the "real" network.
DHCP and VPN solutions exist for just about everything.
True, it's not JUST an academic network, but it is PRIMARILY an academic network. Student use was for non academic use is granted as a little bonus for people living on campus. But when secondary uses interfer with the primary purpose then there's a problem.
but shouldn't be the university's problem in dorms any more than it's comcast's problem if I do it from home
Which is slightly different. Comcast is an ISP, their business is on internet acess. A university can be considered a business too, but who's product is academics. But like I said above, if it interferes with the primary purpose of the network, it's got to go.
I do like the idea of providing seperate networks. Provide students with their own network, including a route to the main campus network, but a seperate pipe for the internet. That would solve most of these problems. There's only one problem, it would be SO much more expensive
Students were paying $3 a semester, only those living on campus, for a high speed connection. If they had their own seperate connection, I'd expect those costs to be about 100x higher at least. Or perhaps a charge per meg or gig transferred on a P2P network? Lots of interesting options there.
BTW, I'm glad to have a level headed response. One that doesn't involve calling me "the embodyment of censorship" hehe.
but what about the students who live on campus, far from home, who enjoyed downloading music at home and enjoyed a relatively restriction-free internet.
No one is forced to live on campus. If you don't like it, move off. If you really want to trade MP3s, then get a dial-up account and dial off campus.
The school's network isn't needed at 1am,
I beg to differ. Our network was constantly in use. Constantly. But on a side note, our original restrictions were "No P2P between 8am and 8pm" But people didn't listen, so we shut them down entirely.
The fact you would resort to completely blocking all p2p and shutting off accounts of students makes me sick.
It wasn't my policy. Like I said, I was a student at the time. But given how much trouble P2P was causing for our network what other options were there?
You are the embodyment of censorship, and as far as I am concerned, a bonified puppet of the music industry.
You are a troll, and as far as I am concerned, a bad one at that.
Now, please explain to me how not allowing P2P networks on a private academic network is the same as censorship.
I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but here we go. Your analogies are horrific. Terrible. Horrible even.
This isn't the same as "banning protests." It's the same as saying "you can't have parades around the paved streets 24 hours a day since people who actually ahve to get from point A to point B can't since its clogged all the time."
This isn't the same as "removing controversial books" from the library. It's the same as saying "you can't checkout 2,000 books at the same time to build a fort and prevent anyone else from checking out books for academic reasons."
In no way as anyone's expression been hampared. There is no censorship. Explain to me, without using terrible anologies, why not allowing students to clog bandwidth with mp3s is a form of censorship.
Actually, at this particular university the bandwidth was payed for by selling part of it to others in the area. Students who lived off campus payed nothing for network access at the public labs.
Students who lived on campus payed $5 a semester for a high speed connection. That's NOTHING compared to the cost of the multiple T3s.
Anyway, the express purpose of the network is for academic use. And that's never been questioned, and no academic use has been stopped. But when a P2P generates Terrabytes of data a day, there's not a whole lot of other options but to ban it.
I was a student and and "IT geek" for the university I attended. As soon as Napster got big, every file trading network was we could find got banned. Why? Because it was eating ALL the bandwith. People with legitimate uses for the network (ie: not downloading music and pr0n) couldn't get anything done.
We ended up telling everyone they weren't allowed to trade MP3s, and shutting off accounts that did anyway. Didn't take that long before people stopped trying.
The school network is just that, the schools network. It's being used for academic purposes. Lack of access to a file trading network that eats enormous amounts of bandwith is in no way censorship. If you really want to trade files, then move off campus and get a broadband connection. It's their network, not yours.
You use the tivo to delay the audio, and watch the DirecTV feed. So the Tivo buffers 6 seconds worth of audio, then starts playing. The DirecTV, which is already 6 seconds behind, plays normally. And wow. They're in sync.
---Audio-->Tivo, wait 6 seconds-----> TV ---Video-->No Tive, already delayed-> TV
Current theories in no way preclude the formation of a singularity.
True, but current theories also haven't proven that inside a black hole _is_ a singularity. Although it's been a while, I remember from an Astronomy class I took that due to the rate of spin outside the black hole, and that conservation of momentum would mean it would spin faster inside means that the odds of a true point singularity are relatively low.
That's pretty funny. I know that the limiting factor in my "music listening experience" isn't the quality of of the CD. It's everything else. It runs on a 6 year old Aiawa shelf system. Hardly the best in the world. I bet an SACD or DVD-A would sound exactly the same on my set up.
Or a better way to phrase it: Why are they trying to sell "sound quality" to a group of people who seem perfectly content with 128kbps mp3s?
With the exception of Audio-philes, who spend countless dollars on just the right setup, who will be able to tell the difference? DVD-A in my car with the factory system? Seems like over kill.
It's great for listening to hard drives to determine how screwed up they are. Start hearing little ticking or grinding noises? Back that sucker up and get a new one.
Other than that, a 9 lbs. hammer comes in handy for those machines that refuse to cooperate;-)
So what's up, old timer? Good to see not all the old hats have left. You're the first non-staff person I've seen with a UID lower than mine in some years! Granted, I don't check UIDs often, but still. It's good to have long time people around. I tend to trust them more. Perhaps we should set up an old timers group.
PHP also allows for session information to be stored in a database. (Or memory, or file, or you can even write your own functions to handle session loading and storing)
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I just read all of that link. And the pages it mentions. And it scares the jebus out of me. I've never seen more nonsense in one place in all my life.
Are these people serious or is a big joke? Please tell me it's a joke and people don't honestly believe the Earth is flat.
Please? I really want this to be a joke. Their "logic" is so laughable it hurts.
The DMCA forbids circumventing encryption to get to copyrighted material. I fail to see how you can construe sending mail as that.
Secondly, your email address is a fact, and can not be copyrighted. No less than your street address.
People don't have to know how to build an enginer to drive a car.
Absolutely. But you do need to know about the ignition, steering wheel, gas and brake pedels, turn signals, speedometer, gas level indicator, seat belts, windshield wipers, lights, clutch etc.
People have to learn how to drive, but they don't want to learn how to use a computer. I can get drive one car, get into another and even though it's not the same I can drive it. Change someone's UI on a computer just a bit and they'll go nuts and be unable to do anything. How odd.
I love my Treo 300. I've talked about it a couple of times before on slashdot, even made a couple postings from it!
I also use Sprint, in the Southeast, and get great connections just about everywhere. Data speeds tend to be very well too. And with a third party app I can download and install programs using the wireless link! No more waiting to get back to my base station to install something.
I became hooked on the Palm OS tools as a PDA with a Visor, which I gave to my girlfriend about a year ago. So for Christmas she got me the Treo, great trade, 'eh?
Actively using the wireless portion of it does drain the battery, and talk time isn't as good as it could be, but the battery changes amazingly fast and in "standby" mode (wireless on, no active connections) the battery will last about a week.
Oddly enough, I also use Eudora. I wish it had an email "push" or a "check for new messages every X minutes" feature more like a RIM Blackberry, but I'm okay without it. TreoMail offers that, but it's a subscription service.
The lack of expandability isn't too much of an issue for me. The only thing I'd like to add to it is GPS. Between my family and friends we've got a decent "hand-me-down" system where when someone gets new hardware, the old hardware goes to whoever needs / wants it the most. In a few years when I'm ready for something better I'll pass it on to someone else.
In short, the complete PalmOS line of application, the SDK, mobile internet (at good speeds), color screen, it's everything I could want right now.
Wooha! Love it.
My 3G "phone" is a Handspring Treo 300. Since it runs any PalmOS app I have my choice of email clients, many of which support POP3 etc.
This combination of cell phone, PDA, and wireless internet (ssh, pop, web, and even VNC!) is perfect for me. The sprint PCS plas rock. I'm actually posting from it right now!
My previous was an i85s, which supported SMS with an email to ssh gateway. I wrote a little perl script to forward mail only from people on a preapproved list. That was so painful compared to my Treo.
I got it for Christmas and I just can't put it down!
I'm with ya. Small smart squids living in treetops while large dumb squidb roam the ground. Flying fish called "flish". Please.
It would have bee better if theyld never made any claims about "scientists" saying these things and letting it just be pure speculation.
I did dig the squid with the biolumenesence (sp?) to attract its mate as well as lure prey. Too cool
I'm responding to you via my new Habdspring Treo, a generous gift from my girlfriend. It's great. Treo 300, phone, PDA, wireless internet, emails, color screen... even an ssh client and (this scares me) a VNC client. with a thumb keyboard on it I get decent typing speeds and unlimited PCS Vision for data rocks too.
and with the multitude of applicatons for PalmOS, there's ton of programs available. I recently got the SDK working and will be writing my own to fill the gap.
There's a few things lacking though, I want an email client that alerts (vibrates) on new messages (like the RIM Blackberry does) an AOL I'm client that doesn't crash it, and while I'm at it I'll take a web browser that open more than one page at a time and mutlitasking too.
all is all, I love it. Many in my family have clies, blackberrys, cell phone, and / or visors. I would trade my treo for anything.
I actually did give a friend of mine coal for christmas this year as his actual present, complete with stoccking. Of course it was a piece off the Titanic, which next to his piece of the original transatlantic telegraph, but still made an amusing gift.
Only if you use the same machine to do both internal and wireless DHCP. That's why the two networks are kept completely seperate, connected only by what we'll call the "wireless gateway"
So the "wireless gateway" hands out IPs to the wireless folks (in a different range from the internal network) and acts as the VPN router for the wireless. That's all that box should do. Then it has no effect on the internal network except for routing authorized network traffic.
The only thing the DHCP server does is hand out IPs. That's it. After that the connection is done over a VPN which is all encrypted.
And you can DOS anything. Just flood the 802.11 spectrum with crap and nothing will work.
Why not use a DHCP server that hands out IP addresses that aren't part of your internal network. e.g. if you're internal network is 192.168.0.x, then have it hand out 192.168.1.x addresses. Then use any sort of VPN to connect to the "real" network.
DHCP and VPN solutions exist for just about everything.
True, it's not JUST an academic network, but it is PRIMARILY an academic network. Student use was for non academic use is granted as a little bonus for people living on campus. But when secondary uses interfer with the primary purpose then there's a problem.
but shouldn't be the university's problem in dorms any more than it's comcast's problem if I do it from home
Which is slightly different. Comcast is an ISP, their business is on internet acess. A university can be considered a business too, but who's product is academics. But like I said above, if it interferes with the primary purpose of the network, it's got to go.
I do like the idea of providing seperate networks. Provide students with their own network, including a route to the main campus network, but a seperate pipe for the internet. That would solve most of these problems. There's only one problem, it would be SO much more expensive
Students were paying $3 a semester, only those living on campus, for a high speed connection. If they had their own seperate connection, I'd expect those costs to be about 100x higher at least. Or perhaps a charge per meg or gig transferred on a P2P network? Lots of interesting options there.
BTW, I'm glad to have a level headed response. One that doesn't involve calling me "the embodyment of censorship" hehe.
but what about the students who live on campus, far from home, who enjoyed downloading music at home and enjoyed a relatively restriction-free internet.
No one is forced to live on campus. If you don't like it, move off. If you really want to trade MP3s, then get a dial-up account and dial off campus.
The school's network isn't needed at 1am,
I beg to differ. Our network was constantly in use. Constantly. But on a side note, our original restrictions were "No P2P between 8am and 8pm" But people didn't listen, so we shut them down entirely.
The fact you would resort to completely blocking all p2p and shutting off accounts of students makes me sick.
It wasn't my policy. Like I said, I was a student at the time. But given how much trouble P2P was causing for our network what other options were there?
You are the embodyment of censorship, and as far as I am concerned, a bonified puppet of the music industry.
You are a troll, and as far as I am concerned, a bad one at that.
Now, please explain to me how not allowing P2P networks on a private academic network is the same as censorship.
I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but here we go. Your analogies are horrific. Terrible. Horrible even.
This isn't the same as "banning protests." It's the same as saying "you can't have parades around the paved streets 24 hours a day since people who actually ahve to get from point A to point B can't since its clogged all the time."
This isn't the same as "removing controversial books" from the library. It's the same as saying "you can't checkout 2,000 books at the same time to build a fort and prevent anyone else from checking out books for academic reasons."
In no way as anyone's expression been hampared. There is no censorship. Explain to me, without using terrible anologies, why not allowing students to clog bandwidth with mp3s is a form of censorship.
Actually, at this particular university the bandwidth was payed for by selling part of it to others in the area. Students who lived off campus payed nothing for network access at the public labs.
Students who lived on campus payed $5 a semester for a high speed connection. That's NOTHING compared to the cost of the multiple T3s.
Anyway, the express purpose of the network is for academic use. And that's never been questioned, and no academic use has been stopped. But when a P2P generates Terrabytes of data a day, there's not a whole lot of other options but to ban it.
I was a student and and "IT geek" for the university I attended. As soon as Napster got big, every file trading network was we could find got banned. Why? Because it was eating ALL the bandwith. People with legitimate uses for the network (ie: not downloading music and pr0n) couldn't get anything done.
We ended up telling everyone they weren't allowed to trade MP3s, and shutting off accounts that did anyway. Didn't take that long before people stopped trying.
The school network is just that, the schools network. It's being used for academic purposes. Lack of access to a file trading network that eats enormous amounts of bandwith is in no way censorship. If you really want to trade files, then move off campus and get a broadband connection. It's their network, not yours.
You're only required to provide source to people you've sold the software to. So you'd have to give the company that buys you the source. That is all.
Issues like this have been covered about a million times in the past. Try this for some more information.
Great! Now strippers can do their own light shows! (Okay, it's silicon vs silicone, but shhhhh, it's funnier that way)
You use the tivo to delay the audio, and watch the DirecTV feed. So the Tivo buffers 6 seconds worth of audio, then starts playing. The DirecTV, which is already 6 seconds behind, plays normally. And wow. They're in sync.
---Audio-->Tivo, wait 6 seconds-----> TV
---Video-->No Tive, already delayed-> TV
See, the arrive in sync at that point.
Perhaps I meant conservation of angular momentum and not just momentum? Like I said, It's been a while since i've been in school.
Think of it like a figure skater spinning with outstreached arms. Then pull that arms in and what happens? They spin faster.
Current theories in no way preclude the formation of a singularity.
;-)
True, but current theories also haven't proven that inside a black hole _is_ a singularity. Although it's been a while, I remember from an Astronomy class I took that due to the rate of spin outside the black hole, and that conservation of momentum would mean it would spin faster inside means that the odds of a true point singularity are relatively low.
But what do I know?
That's pretty funny. I know that the limiting factor in my "music listening experience" isn't the quality of of the CD. It's everything else. It runs on a 6 year old Aiawa shelf system. Hardly the best in the world. I bet an SACD or DVD-A would sound exactly the same on my set up.
Or a better way to phrase it: Why are they trying to sell "sound quality" to a group of people who seem perfectly content with 128kbps mp3s?
With the exception of Audio-philes, who spend countless dollars on just the right setup, who will be able to tell the difference? DVD-A in my car with the factory system? Seems like over kill.
It's great for listening to hard drives to determine how screwed up they are. Start hearing little ticking or grinding noises? Back that sucker up and get a new one.
;-)
Other than that, a 9 lbs. hammer comes in handy for those machines that refuse to cooperate
You bastard!! I feel so old now!! ;-)
So what's up, old timer? Good to see not all the old hats have left. You're the first non-staff person I've seen with a UID lower than mine in some years! Granted, I don't check UIDs often, but still. It's good to have long time people around. I tend to trust them more. Perhaps we should set up an old timers group.
PHP also allows for session information to be stored in a database. (Or memory, or file, or you can even write your own functions to handle session loading and storing)