Read again, bucko. Nobody's saying they'll "banish" alternative medicine sites from the Web. They just want to regulate the.health TLD, that's all.
You can bet they'll try. The AMA and other "establishment" medical organizations don't want you to know about anything outside of their god complexes. Accupuncure, herbal remedies, and other alternatives to the western model of hospitialization, overmedication and invasive surgery are simply not tolerated (in the US at least)
For example, my wife just last week gave birth to our second son here in the comfort of our home. We've been relatively lucky to have found a family doctor (a rarity in itself) that will still treat her and our children. Her first OBGYN lectured her and pronounced that she would never treat my wife again if she had a home birth. Other women working with the same midwife practice we work with have had similar experiences.
The god complex of the medical establishment knows no bounds, and having control of the entire content of a TLD will only make it worse.
...this is the road that RMS and the FSF want to lead us down. No IP rights, and no recourse against people who "share" the output of your hard work. If you complain, you are automatically being selfish, since information wants to be shared, and you are obviously a petty capitalist just interested in the fast buck.
Hear! hear!
If it is okay to rip off some monolithic entertainment coropration (Like VA, heh!) then it is okay to rip of anyone's IP. This is the future that many of you hear have been advocating.
I think we should put up a "Pay Linux.com" or "Pay VA Linux" site.
If the Newton 2100 HWR is so good, why do all the units that end up on eBay come with a keyboard?
Because all the 2000/2100's shipped with one. No HWR is as good as quick typing, but for on-the-fly use, which is what a PDA/Handheld is for, a keyboard is a pain. Remember, lots of people use the Newton where others might use a laptop.
The Newt had HWR, but it didn't work well till the version 2.0 (MP130) machines came out. That's why Grafitti was developed, as a replacemnt for the HWR on the early newts.
Just for fun, I've got Grafitti loaded on my MessagePad 2100. I just need to remind myself why I don't want one of those nice sleek Palms.
Charles M. Gentile is a US photographer who for a decade had made and sold artistic posters of scenes in Cleveland, Ohio. In 1995 he made a poster of the I. M. Pei building, which housed the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. This time he got into trouble. The museum sued him for infringing the trademark that it had taken out on its own image. If buildings can be registered as trademarks, then every painter, photographer and film-maker might have to seek permission and pay fees before using the images in their art work. This is obviously contrary to the original justification for intellectual property, which is to encourage the production of artistic works.
And yet, this guy would make it economically imposible for Charles Gentile to make a cent from his poster of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Without Copyright, anyone could take one copy of the poster, which say costs $30, slap it on a large-format copier and make cheap, crappy copies that they can sell for $10. This not only destroys the original owner's income, but puts sub-standard product on the market with his name on it.
Quit trying to solve the obvious abuses of IP by destroying it all together.
Remember that the review was American therefore mileage was given in US gallons which are 0.75 of an Imperial gallon. Judging by your spelling (arse), I suspect the figures you quote for the Lupo are in Imperial gallons.
Nope, I just think it's better said arse technica.
Last I looked the Lupo project was averaging 97.6 US mpg, no propellors, or anything.
The Insight, and the soon-to-be-released Toyota, are pretty much experimental cars. No one knows how reliable hybrid technology will be, or how much it will cost to maintain.
The Insight, and the Toyota are sold, and serviced at an economic loss to their respective manufacturers. One seriously has to consider if these cars are serious looks at the future, or just marketing vehicles.
So, do you want to pay $23k to be a beta tester for the automotive industry?
If you don't, and you want to buy a efficient, clean vehicle that you'll be able to drive and get parts for for a couple hundred thousand miles, hop on over to Fred's TDI Page and figure out if you are the kind of person who could drive a diesel. And yes, those of you over 6' or with families are welcome.
If you are lucky enough to live in Europe, and want a car to put any Insight to shame, check out the VW Lupo, a TDI subcompact that gets nearly 100mpg without the aid of windmills, sails, flux capacitors, or overthrustors.
p.s. I drive a 99 Jetta TDI, average 60+ miles per day, and 43MPG. I can fit my wife, and 2-year-old and luggage, and a trunk full of work-related stuff in it with no problem. I'll race any Insight owner: First one to a junkyard loses.
It doesn't matter if they are apples or oranges. The Insight is a cramped, strangely designed vehicle that has unique (read: hard to fix or find parts for) technology. The TDI VW's are very common, easy to fix and fuel, carry a ton more cargo, and more passengers. Most importantly, the Insight, and the similar Toyota are sold at a loss by their manufacturers, which from a business point of view translates into their being on the short list of ditchable products when things get tight. The TDI cars are profitable, and are in high demand. Even more so in Europe, where diesel cars are much more common. In fact, a European TDI VW, the Lupo, gets nearly 100mpg, with a normal diesel engine, and makes a proffit for the company.
Hi, I'd like to move a server from NT4 to Linux. I'd like to stress that it is a server that is extremely vital to my company's business.
It is so vital in fact that I'm prepared to spend no money on it at all. I want someone to give me high-powered, reliable software upon which I can bet my job, for free.
Why must Open-Source necessarily equal free? Why does Open-Source necessarily equal best? If it were my job on the line here, I'd find the best solution, not necessarily the one that meets my agenda.
Simple answer: Get yourself a recent diesel powered car and make your own Biodiesel. It's open-source, and cheap! Just hop down to your local fried-food place and buy their old fryer oil and convert it to biodegradable, cheap (@$.50/gal) fuel that makes your exhaust smell like french fries.
Or, if you want, buy some from a commercial distributor, that is most likely soy based.
If I (painstakingly) create a look-a-like font for Times, and call it 'Jimes', then I haven't broken any law unless I actually, physically, bit-for-bit copied the Times font and renamed it. I can even legally scan in some printed output of the font, and trace over it in a font creation tool... Similarly with any kind of graphical work - like a painting. If I simply produce a work 'inspired by' or'based on' an existing work - without actually using any genuine copying technology like a scanner or a camera - then I haven't infringed anyone's copyright.
Actually Jules, you are wrong. Very wrong in fact.
Derivative works are covered by copyright law. If you made a painting of one of my photographs, regardless of your "copying technology" paintbrush or digital copier, you have infringed on my copyright, and have stolen my property and kept me from feeding my family, and IMHO, should be hunted down like a dog.
Original ideas and their implementation, in painting, or in pixels are intellectual property, and for many artists and programmers alike are their sole means of support. The despicible casual theft of other's property, like that you propose, is what dooms many brilliant people to obscurity and poverty.
First, I think that this is a valid point for discussion (and as an IP owner (I'm a photographer) I believe that Apple is within their rights here) but it needs to be discussed in the framework of its effect on open-source technologies and various *nix windowing environments. My question,is: why are we letting this discussion on Slashdot be framed by a couple of intarticulate 12-year-old Windows zealots? What would it have taken to find out that the guy who submitted the story was the admin of the site in question, before the story was posted and he drummed up a ton of banner ad revenue for his Windows-only site? I think a bit more fact-checking needs to be done before stories are posted.
You and I have discussed this before, at length, but I'll say it again. The Newton had all of these things, but was crippled by trying to do too much too soon (I'll admit, early HWR *sucked* but the later versions are very good), and by a compltete lack focused marketing to non-vertical markets.
Now, if you want all the things you described above, you get a Newton, and live with a dwindling developer population, and some glaring feature ommissions (IRDa syncing, and connectivity to more desktop PIM's would be great), or get a WinCE machine, and I don't think I have to go into the minuses of that situation.
What it all comes down to is the whether or not there is a market for a more robust machine. I think that there is, as there isn't anything usable on the market that will do all that my early 1998 Newton MP2100 will do, most notably, carry up to 32mb of data at once (or more with unlimited 24mb cards), talk Appletalk and tcp/ip over ethernet, browse and serve web pages, and have all of the PIM features tightly integrated?
Geez I hope someone at Palm or Handspring is listening!
I'm intrigued by the Handspring, as it finally has at least the potential of doing some of the things that my MessagePad 2100 does, like external expansion.
Hopefully, there will be a nice adapter to use compact flash memory cards, and therefore, cradleless docking using cards, and ethenet capability. Maybe Apple will even build an AirPort module for the Handsping machines (as they are rumored to be doing for the Apple-branded Palms). Until then, I'll be luging around my 8bit screened, 2100 with PCMCIA ethernet, modem and 16mb expansion card, browsing and serving web pages, recieving and sending email, and reading the version of the IMDB converted to Newtonbook format. All without having to learn a new form of handwriting. (although, I do have a copy of Grafiti for the Newt)
Now all I have to buy for my Newt are the GPS, the Leica laser rangefinder for making building plans, and the wireless pager card........
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Read again, bucko. Nobody's saying they'll "banish" alternative medicine sites from the Web. They just want to regulate the .health TLD, that's all.
You can bet they'll try. The AMA and other "establishment" medical organizations don't want you to know about anything outside of their god complexes. Accupuncure, herbal remedies, and other alternatives to the western model of hospitialization, overmedication and invasive surgery are simply not tolerated (in the US at least)
For example, my wife just last week gave birth to our second son here in the comfort of our home. We've been relatively lucky to have found a family doctor (a rarity in itself) that will still treat her and our children. Her first OBGYN lectured her and pronounced that she would never treat my wife again if she had a home birth. Other women working with the same midwife practice we work with have had similar experiences.
The god complex of the medical establishment knows no bounds, and having control of the entire content of a TLD will only make it worse.
We'll starve 'em into better art.
If we all steal, then it makes it right........
My personal favorite is Drugs Are Really Expensive.
Hear! hear!
If it is okay to rip off some monolithic entertainment coropration (Like VA, heh!) then it is okay to rip of anyone's IP. This is the future that many of you hear have been advocating.
I think we should put up a "Pay Linux.com" or "Pay VA Linux" site.
Because all the 2000/2100's shipped with one. No HWR is as good as quick typing, but for on-the-fly use, which is what a PDA/Handheld is for, a keyboard is a pain. Remember, lots of people use the Newton where others might use a laptop.
Actually, I have a single NiCad pack that I've never removed from my Newton in three years of constant use.
The Newt had HWR, but it didn't work well till the version 2.0 (MP130) machines came out. That's why Grafitti was developed, as a replacemnt for the HWR on the early newts.
Just for fun, I've got Grafitti loaded on my MessagePad 2100. I just need to remind myself why I don't want one of those nice sleek Palms.
And yet, this guy would make it economically imposible for Charles Gentile to make a cent from his poster of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Without Copyright, anyone could take one copy of the poster, which say costs $30, slap it on a large-format copier and make cheap, crappy copies that they can sell for $10. This not only destroys the original owner's income, but puts sub-standard product on the market with his name on it.
Quit trying to solve the obvious abuses of IP by destroying it all together.
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Nope, I just think it's better said arse technica.
Last I looked the Lupo project was averaging 97.6 US mpg, no propellors, or anything.
Consider this:
The Insight, and the soon-to-be-released Toyota, are pretty much experimental cars. No one knows how reliable hybrid technology will be, or how much it will cost to maintain.
The Insight, and the Toyota are sold, and serviced at an economic loss to their respective manufacturers. One seriously has to consider if these cars are serious looks at the future, or just marketing vehicles.
So, do you want to pay $23k to be a beta tester for the automotive industry?
If you don't, and you want to buy a efficient, clean vehicle that you'll be able to drive and get parts for for a couple hundred thousand miles, hop on over to Fred's TDI Page and figure out if you are the kind of person who could drive a diesel. And yes, those of you over 6' or with families are welcome.
If you are lucky enough to live in Europe, and want a car to put any Insight to shame, check out the VW Lupo, a TDI subcompact that gets nearly 100mpg without the aid of windmills, sails, flux capacitors, or overthrustors.
p.s. I drive a 99 Jetta TDI, average 60+ miles per day, and 43MPG. I can fit my wife, and 2-year-old and luggage, and a trunk full of work-related stuff in it with no problem. I'll race any Insight owner: First one to a junkyard loses.
It doesn't matter if they are apples or oranges. The Insight is a cramped, strangely designed vehicle that has unique (read: hard to fix or find parts for) technology.
The TDI VW's are very common, easy to fix and fuel, carry a ton more cargo, and more passengers.
Most importantly, the Insight, and the similar Toyota are sold at a loss by their manufacturers, which from a business point of view translates into their being on the short list of ditchable products when things get tight.
The TDI cars are profitable, and are in high demand. Even more so in Europe, where diesel cars are much more common.
In fact, a European TDI VW, the Lupo, gets nearly 100mpg, with a normal diesel engine, and makes a proffit for the company.
Which do you think is the future?
Hi, I'd like to move a server from NT4 to Linux. I'd like to stress that it is a server that is extremely vital to my company's business.
It is so vital in fact that I'm prepared to spend no money on it at all. I want someone to give me high-powered, reliable software upon which I can bet my job, for free.
Why must Open-Source necessarily equal free?
Why does Open-Source necessarily equal best?
If it were my job on the line here, I'd find the best solution, not necessarily the one that meets my agenda.
Simple answer: Get yourself a recent diesel powered car and make your own Biodiesel. It's open-source, and cheap! Just hop down to your local fried-food place and buy their old fryer oil and convert it to biodegradable, cheap (@$.50/gal) fuel that makes your exhaust smell like french fries.
Or, if you want, buy some from a commercial distributor, that is most likely soy based.
Check out the following:
The National Biodiesel Board
The VeggieVan
Untrue. That would be a "derivative work" and would be still protected by the original copyright.
Are you still using a Newton, and have you gotten a chance to talk to Steve Jobs about why he should have kept it around?
Sorry, you can only do this with a Mac.
Where the hell is that from?
More info please!
Hotmail
Which was unauthorized. She sued 'em and won too.
I can even legally scan in some printed output of the font, and trace over it in a font creation tool...
Similarly with any kind of graphical work - like a painting. If I simply produce a work 'inspired by' or'based on' an existing work - without actually using any genuine copying technology like a scanner or a camera - then I haven't infringed anyone's copyright.
Actually Jules, you are wrong. Very wrong in fact.
Derivative works are covered by copyright law. If you made a painting of one of my photographs, regardless of your "copying technology" paintbrush or digital copier, you have infringed on my copyright, and have stolen my property and kept me from feeding my family, and IMHO, should be hunted down like a dog.
Original ideas and their implementation, in painting, or in pixels are intellectual property, and for many artists and programmers alike are their sole means of support. The despicible casual theft of other's property, like that you propose, is what dooms many brilliant people to obscurity and poverty.
First, I think that this is a valid point for discussion (and as an IP owner (I'm a photographer) I believe that Apple is within their rights here) but it needs to be discussed in the framework of its effect on open-source technologies and various *nix windowing environments.
My question,is: why are we letting this discussion on Slashdot be framed by a couple of intarticulate 12-year-old Windows zealots? What would it have taken to find out that the guy who submitted the story was the admin of the site in question, before the story was posted and he drummed up a ton of banner ad revenue for his Windows-only site?
I think a bit more fact-checking needs to be done before stories are posted.
>>Anyone else ever see an Anniversary Mac? Wow, did they look nice. Expensive, sure, and outdated by now, but I still like them :)
Add a G3 card, lots of RAM and LinuxPPC and you've got a killer box, with Bose audio to boot.
Too bad they still run $2500 or so, if you can find them.
>>I never heard of vegetable waste catching fire.
Obviously, you weren't quite the twisted pyromaniac I was in yougnger days.
The oil in orange peels burns like the bejesus.
You and I have discussed this before, at length, but I'll say it again. The Newton had all of these things, but was crippled by trying to do too much too soon (I'll admit, early HWR *sucked* but the later versions are very good), and by a compltete lack focused marketing to non-vertical markets.
Now, if you want all the things you described above, you get a Newton, and live with a dwindling developer population, and some glaring feature ommissions (IRDa syncing, and connectivity to more desktop PIM's would be great), or get a WinCE machine, and I don't think I have to go into the minuses of that situation.
What it all comes down to is the whether or not there is a market for a more robust machine. I think that there is, as there isn't anything usable on the market that will do all that my early 1998 Newton MP2100 will do, most notably, carry up to 32mb of data at once (or more with unlimited 24mb cards), talk Appletalk and tcp/ip over ethernet, browse and serve web pages, and have all of the PIM features tightly integrated?
Geez I hope someone at Palm or Handspring is listening!
I'm intrigued by the Handspring, as it finally has at least the potential of doing some of the things that my MessagePad 2100 does, like external expansion.
Hopefully, there will be a nice adapter to use compact flash memory cards, and therefore, cradleless docking using cards, and ethenet capability. Maybe Apple will even build an AirPort module for the Handsping machines (as they are rumored to be doing for the Apple-branded Palms).
Until then, I'll be luging around my 8bit screened, 2100 with PCMCIA ethernet, modem and 16mb expansion card, browsing and serving web pages, recieving and sending email, and reading the version of the IMDB converted to Newtonbook format. All without having to learn a new form of handwriting. (although, I do have a copy of Grafiti for the Newt)
Now all I have to buy for my Newt are the GPS, the Leica laser rangefinder for making building plans, and the wireless pager card........