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Actress/Inventor Hedy Lamarr dies

No Such Agency writes "Wired News reports that Hedy Lamarr has died at the age of 86. Lamarr was not only a sex symbol and film star in the 30's-40's but also invented 'spread-spectrum' or frequency-hopping radio (with composer George Antheil). Originally intended to provide jamming-proof communications and remote torpedo control, the technology is one of the foundations of modern wireless communications, including wireless internet connections and GPS. Unfortunately their innovation was not appreciated until after their patent had expired. You can read more about Lamarr and spread-spectrum radio here."

194 comments

  1. cell phones by daemonchild · · Score: 1

    so i guess he's the one we blame when we all get cancer from using our cell phones?
    : )

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    1. Re:cell phones by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      Actually, that'd be 'she' rather than 'he'. Hedy was an actress. And no, I doubt she has much to do with the amount of power output a cell phone has and what that does to your noggin' as you jabber endlessly while driving down the freeway....

      Seriously, I doubt people who use cell phones moderately (eg. for emergency calls, etc), rather than as a primary contact medium or as a way to 'chat with the {boys|girls|etc}' while driving down the road, will have few cancer issues.

      On a different note, Blazing Saddles won't be quite the same for me now.

      --Joe
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    2. Re:cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ALPHABET PRONOUNCIATION SUPPORTERS UNITE!

      el ell ehll ehl

    3. Re:cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      On a different note, Blazing Saddles won't be quite the same for me now.

      That's Hedley! ;-)

  2. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot really needs to separate the dead-people articles from the technology articles. We're all too addicted to just not click on the story.

  3. stealth TTB by garyrich · · Score: 1

    she was totally hot in "White Cargo" (an otherwise terrible movie) but who knew she
    was a thinker? you'd never know from her
    film roles.

    "That's Hedley!"

    garyr

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  4. Get ready for the 'Blazing Saddles' Jokes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Headly!

  5. Obligatory dig at mainstream media by antizeus · · Score: 2
    This is the first time I've heard of Hedy Lamarr the inventor. It is not the first time I've heard of Hedy Lamarr the actress.

    I would like to blast the mainstream media (and, I suppose, mainstream culture) for regarding acting as more worthy of attention than invention. This will all change after the Geek Revolution (heh).

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    1. Re:Obligatory dig at mainstream media by RobinH · · Score: 1

      True,

      I just saw an NBC report, and it was quite extensive, but it said nothing about her being an inventor. This is very sad.

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      "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
  6. This is the essence... by Shoeboy · · Score: 4

    ...of the garage revolution. A composer and an actress coming up with a breakthrough in communications technology. Far out. I'm rethinking my whole approach:

    Wanted: Hollywood starlets and composers to assist in next generation web development architecture. Must have interest in compression technology, just-in-time compilers and self modifying code. Large, firm breasts and/or
    appreciation of Irving Berlin a plus. Competitive salaries, call today.

    In all seriousness, I like this story in that is provides a (admittedly anecdotal) refutation to the frequently expressed opinion that only stereotypical geeks can contribute to technology. Some geeks have bulging biceps or a knack for (american) football. Some geeks are cute. Too many of us on /. tend to assume that the beautiful people are lusers.
    --Shoeboy

    1. Re:This is the essence... by emerson · · Score: 1

      >Too many of us on /. tend to assume that the beautiful people are lusers.

      And the best part is, it mostly seems the feeling is mutual... (*grin)


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    2. Re:This is the essence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The average Slashdotter seems genuinely to think that the entire 'Net could be run on beige x86 boxes running Linux.

      Your sig nearly made me wet myself.

  7. A toast.. by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

    To Hedy Lamarr, the original, never-to-be forgotten, Tech Talking Babe.


    TOYWAR!!
  8. Patents by zerblinitzky · · Score: 0

    What's this about "Too bad the implications of her idea weren't discovered until after the patent lapsed," or something to that effect? I thought we were all against patents here?

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    1. Re:Patents by MrBlack · · Score: 1

      I can only speak for myself but I have no objection to inventors who make significant breakthroughs in any field patenting their work, and thus allowing them to profit from it. I believe that this is what patents are for. I do have an objection to opportunists who abuse the patent system by patenting incremental "breakthroughs", business models, things that already exist in prior art and things that are obvious (can you say "one-Click shopping").

    2. Re:Patents by Skapare · · Score: 2

      If Hedy Lamarr, or anyone else, had patented something as simple as spread spectrum today, it would be a joke patent, much like so many others. In the 1940's, however, it was a marvelous new idea that should have been used more than it was.

      If no one else can figure out how to solve a real problem, then one person figures out a solution, that's a real patentable idea. Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a solution seeking a problem. But stupidly obvious stuff like saving your credit card info in a server indexed by username or cookie, is not worthy of a patent (even if some .COM wasted 999 man*hours implementing it).

      If Hedy Lamarr had been in her prime at the launch of the Internet, she probably would have been a great contributor.

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      now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
  9. Hot pics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    http://users.deltanet.com/users/d stickne/hedy.htm

    Hmm... many of them are black and white, like a statue....

    1. Re:Hot pics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Here is the picture for the statue freaks. Enjoy.

  10. AAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh by kwsNI · · Score: 1

    Oh my God. You mean back then you could be a sex symbol and still be smart?

    kwsNI

  11. and the guy that did ballet mechanique! by garyrich · · Score: 1

    See this wired link

    I remember the 1989 Carnegie Hall
    version. I don't remember it in any detail,
    but I remember it kicked butt. We are not
    talking a trivial film composer here.


    but then I like Milton Babbit too.
    garyr

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  12. Techno-Talking Babe by ralphclark · · Score: 2

    Hedy Lamarr must be about the closest thing to a geek guy's ideal woman. She was certainly a hot chick in her day. Just look at that Corel Draw picture of her that Corel uses for their. But before today I'd *no* idea she was an engineering genius.

    The orginal Techno-Talking Babe!(TM)

    Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
    Thought exists only as an abstraction

    1. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by chuck · · Score: 2
      Hedy Lamarr must be about the closest thing to a geek guy's ideal woman.
      I thought so at at first. I became suspicious after looking at IMDB. Apparently she's racked up more than half a dozen divorces, as well as a minor criminal record.

      So besides being well over 50 years my senior and dead, she's probably not this geek guy's type.

      -Chuck
    2. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by Accipiter · · Score: 2
      Just look at that Corel Draw picture of her that Corel uses...

      Is THAT who that is? I'll be damned, I never knew that! Thanks!

      -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

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      -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
      (If you can't figure out how to E-Mail me, Don't. :P)

    3. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of these geeks are so desperate that never mind the divorces and arrests, even the *dead* thing wouldn't be enough to stop them if they got the chance!

    4. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by Accipiter · · Score: 3
      Found the pic, in case anyone is interested.

      http://www.corel.com/graphics/contests/jpg/0379_ pho_bs1996_10.jpg

      Excellent graphics work. That pic is amazing. It's been on Corel's boxes for a while now.

      -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

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      -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
      (If you can't figure out how to E-Mail me, Don't. :P)

    5. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by chuck · · Score: 1
      Some of these geeks are so desperate that never mind the divorces and arrests, even the *dead* thing wouldn't be enough to stop them if they got the chance!
      HA! No matter how desparate or lonely I get, I can always make myself feel better knowing that I have at least some standards!
      -Chuck
    6. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by cgray4 · · Score: 1

      Not only is the pic amazing, but it's also quite contentious. It was used completely without Hedy Lamarr's permission, and I know that she objected to its use. I'm not sure if she sued over it, but I think it was in definite bad taste for Corel to use her image without even contacting her.

      There was quite a good story about her in Invention & Technology a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be archived.

    7. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by Fideaux! · · Score: 2
      Corel Draw picture of her that Corel

      Which was unauthorized. She sued 'em and won too.

    8. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by cabbey · · Score: 2

      Yup, it's a true masterpiece... John Corkery won the 1996 design of the year for it... corelmag had a detailed writeup on it, but I can't find it to provide a link.

      And yeah, she sued. They've since resolved and she granted them a 5 year license. Details are available from Corel.

      She was definently the original TTB (hey Nitrozac, was she inspiration?) and will be missed.

    9. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by chadmulligan · · Score: 1
      Hedy Lamarr must be about the closest thing to a geek guy's ideal woman. She was certainly a hot chick in her day.

      And don't forget Jayne Mansfield, who reputedly had the "highest IQ in Hollywood" in her time... somewhere in the 180s, IIRC.

      So why didn't she in her spare time invent side-looking radar or something like that? She was a pragmatist and decided that making movies was an easier way to get rich... Hey Lamarr never made a dime from her invention...

    10. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 2

      Hedy Lamarr did get rich from making movies. Believe it or not, the reason she invented frequency-hopping wasn't to make a wad of cash, it was to help the Allies win WWII. If she'd have made any money from it, it would have been nice but besides the point. Some people do respond to nobler motives than the almighty dollar, you know.

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      And the brethren went away edified.
    11. Re:Techno-Talking Babe by ralphclark · · Score: 2

      Apparently she's racked up more than half a dozen divorces

      That's par for the course, in Hollywood :o(

      as well as a minor criminal record

      Imagine her as a sad lonely old lady. It's not that surprising really. There have been quite a few cases of faded stars getting caught shoplifting. Some say it's a subconsciously-driven attempt to get attention.

      So besides being well over 50 years my senior and dead, she's probably not this geek guy's type

      Yeah, but a decent geek husband might have saved her from all that.



      Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
      Thought exists only as an abstraction

  13. One of those ideas... by Kid+Zero · · Score: 2

    I heard it from Paul Harvey (true!) That she and her composer friend were thinking about the jamming problem, and she simple asked "why does it have to be on one frequency?" Thus the invention of spread spectrum broadcasting.

    Not sure if it's true, but sometimes the best inventions come from people who aren't knee deep in the problem already. :)

    1. Re:One of those ideas... by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      That's basically what happend, IIRC.... and they *did* use her idea.. it wasn't ignored. It was kept quiet, though.. it had to be.

  14. Tie-in to another article by Silver+A · · Score: 2

    Coincidentally, Hedy Lamarr is also the face on the package of CorelDRAW. IIRC, she successfully sued Corel for using her image without prior authorization.

  15. An interesting person by jd · · Score: 3
    It goes to show that women -CAN- be geeks AND make use of their looks. Looking good is NOT a bar to using your brain, as many schools seem to teach.

    Personally, I think Corel should pay for a permanent memorial to her, in recognition for her services both in entertainment AND technology. (Given Corel's extremely unpleasent treatment of her in the past, such as false allegations in order to overturn a lawsuit filed against them, it is the least they can do.)

    I also think that there should be some kind of fund, linking not only Hedy Lamarr but other well-known female geeks, nerds and innovators, to go to educating women (kids, teachers and parents) that it's OK to think, OK to earn decent money whilst clothed & vertical, and VERY OK to be interested in technology.

    Is this person's death -that- important? YES! The fewer role-models that can speak out, the less chance there is of change. And society, frankly, sucks. The average person seems to keep their brains at waist-height, and technology is something people avoid like the plague. (More than a few -blame- it for the plague.) We need people who can stand up and say that intelligence is OK, that we were born with brains, and they aren't just for decoration in gorefest movies.

    Sadly, those who -do- think about high-tech think "big machines, big budgets, big teams, egg-heads on Penguin Mints, and Military Backing". They don't think "piano", which is how Hedy came up with the idea of shifting frequencies. They don't think "storms & a compass", which is how Marconi developed the radio. They don't think "growing cells" or "living beings", which were the roots behind Alan Turing's and Von Neuman's developments in computing.

    In the end, I doubt anyone will do a damn thing, in memory of this ingenious lady, to improve education, or to improve women's standing in society. But there ya go. What can you expect?

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    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    1. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that it's OK to think, OK to earn decent money whilst clothed & vertical, and VERY OK to be interested in technology.

      The problem with this proposition is that it is not ok. Women are inferior to men (1 Timothy 2:11-14) and should act like it and obey the bible in order to save there lustfull and sinful souls from the flames of hell.

    2. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there ya go. What can you expect?

      well, like antizeus above, I can expect more from the "mainstream" media.
      (moderators, jd's comment is worth that point).
      anon.

    3. Re:An interesting person by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2
      The problem with this proposition is that it is not ok. Women are inferior to men (1 Timothy 2:11-14) and should act like it and obey the bible in order to save there lustfull and sinful souls from the flames of hell.

      Dude...this is exactly the kind of ignorant, sexist garbage that keeps talented people from using their talents. (You do remember the parable of the talents, right?) If women using their God-given talents is against your religious code, then maybe you ought to re-think the way you worship.

      I certainly hope your children don't grow up to resent you. Gods know if I had been raised to think the way you do, I'd end up bitter and angry at my own father as I came to the realization that the real world is completely different from what my father told me.


      TOYWAR!!
    4. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I skipped the rest of the bible. Turns out its pretty boring

    5. Re:An interesting person by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1
      No, I skipped the rest of the bible. Turns out its pretty boring

      Oh...well...this explains everything.

      Care for some tea? One lump or two?


      TOYWAR!!
    6. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it does explain a lot. For example, how fucking stupid someone has to be to actually believe any of that religion bullshit. It is a scam and a fraud. There is no god. god is not dead, it has never existed. Xtianity is corrupt and leading its sheep-like followers into a downward spiral of decadence, death-worship, and unbounded egoism, even in the face of the overwhelming truth.

      There is your tea, my friend. We, the 'antichrists', as the bible calls us, will triumph over the weakling xtians as the lion over the fattened calf...

    7. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it does explain a lot. For example, how fucking stupid someone has to be to actually believe any of that atheism bullshit. It is a scam and a fraud. There is no no-god. no-god is not dead, no-god has never not existed. Atheism is corrupt and leading its swine-like followers into a downward spiral of decadence, death-worship, and unbounded egoism, even in the face of the overwhelming truth.

      There is your tea, my friend. We, the 'antiatheists', as Charles Darwin calls us, will triumph over the weakling Atheists as the 1337 h4x0r d00d over the weak, fattened script kiddie.

    8. Re:An interesting person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      weak fattened script kiddies: the other white meat

    9. Re:An interesting person by CoughDropAddict · · Score: 1

      Your heart is in the right place but:

      1. I'd be willing to bet that the original poster is just a troll, not a sexist, you're probably wasting your breath

      2. The parable of the talents has nothing to do with talents as we know them: the talents referred to in the parable are a form of currency.

    10. Re:An interesting person by Michelle+S · · Score: 1

      I think he was being sarcastic. I hope he was being sarcastic.

    11. Re:An interesting person by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      speaking of unbounded egoism....

  16. Recruiting young starlets for secret projects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I like to do that.

    It isn't until they're in my secret laboratory, and have signed a non-disclosure agreement, that they realize I brought them there TO TURN THEM INTO GRANITE STATUES by means of an Open-source Patent-pending Method For Transforming Girls Into Granite Statues*

    *patent pending

    1. Re:Recruiting young starlets for secret projects by Shoeboy · · Score: 1

      Patent-pending Method For Transforming Girls Into Granite Statues*
      You can't patent that you idiot! There's prior art:
      When you reach the third level of Harkyn's Castle you will find a "Stone Sword." This turns any creature you encounter into stone. I haven't encountered any girls in Bard's Tale I, but I'm stalled on the second level of Mangars' Tower.
      --Shoeboy

    2. Re:Recruiting young starlets for secret projects by pulp · · Score: 1
      You can't patent that you idiot! There's prior art:
      When you reach the third level of Harkyn's Castle...

      Not to mention the work of one Dr. Frankenfurter. There is no explicit documentary evidence that Frankenfurter's machine could do granite, per se, but I doubt that porting the mechanism would be difficult in comparison to the task of handling the conversion itself.

      Furthermore, it strikes me that granite may not be the ideal material for petrifying naked young women; I am thinking, here, of the frictional elements and the consistency of "skin" tone. A white marble or perhaps a nice glossy black volcanic would likely be more pleasing to the touch and the eyes.

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    3. Re:Recruiting young starlets for secret projects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's Herr Doktor Frank N. Furter, you plagaristic, non-accrediting luser.

  17. Odd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that was quick. I submitted this, and by the time I had refreshed it had been marked down.

    But anyway, This is an intresting dicotomy here. When that Unix guy died, the one who's books we'd all read (well, I hadn't, but anyway) We were all up in arms at the trolls. But here? we pay the trolls no mind at all, most arn't even -1'd yet.

    In fact, most of the so-called legitemate posts arn't even any less offensive. "Who knew you could be hot and smart?" Well, I did. Quite lame.

  18. typo by daemonchild · · Score: 1

    yeah .. the he/she thing was a typo on my part



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    1. Re:typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By Grabthar's Hammer, I avenge you!

  19. Hey, wait a minute... by Maul · · Score: 1
    She was a Techno-Talking Babe!. Someone should tell Nitrozac to put her ghost in an issue of After Y2k.

    "You ever have that feeling where you're not sure if you're dreaming or awake?"

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    "You spoony bard!" -Tellah

    1. Re:Hey, wait a minute... by Nitrozac · · Score: 1

      just for you... watch for it tomorrow, possibly in the QuickPoll. :)

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      Nitrozac
  20. Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 3

    Maybe a Slashdot Hedy Lamarr Award for the most outstanding contribution made by a woman in the last year?

    Hey, it could work.
    TOYWAR!!

    1. Re:Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by emerson · · Score: 2

      Hmmn. I think singling out women's contributions, although on the face seeming nice, actually reinforces the perception of "women != technological" by making a big fuss when, gasp, a woman actually got past the math-is-hard stereotype and did something smart!!!

      I think Hedy Lamarr's contribution to technology was not (because of/in spite of/related to) her having XX chromosomes instead of XY. Instead, it was good instance of lateral thinking, getting an idea that kicks the struts out from under the core assumptions that so-called "experts" unthinkingly make when thinking about a problem.

      If there's to be a proposition for a Hedy Lamarr award, why not make it for the person of any gender who's had the best out-of-left-field idea that made the most impact?


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    2. Re:Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3
      Because people, especially young people, are encouraged by the success of people who in some way resemble themselves in disciplines and fields in which people who resemble themselves in some way have not traditionally been recognized or are well represented.

      Smart girls want and need to see examples of smart women identified and recognized.

    3. Re:Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by NoizAngel · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see that.
      I'd like to see intelligent women honoured. I'd kill to know who's doing what in which field. I'd like to hear all of the things I normally do - just with 'she' instead of 'he' once in awhile.

      -Noiz,
      Who is used to being outnumbered, but would like to not be sometimes.


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      I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.
    4. Re:Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by emerson · · Score: 2

      I agree with everything you say, and still stand by my thought that focussing on the 'women' part of 'smart women' downplays the 'smart' part, and furthers the gender divide by highlighting it.

      IMHO, smart girls seeing smart women identified and recognized in the same context as smart men would learn more about equality than if there was a special "Miss Intelligent" contest.

      So, yes, traditionally women are terribly under-represented and -recognized in technical fields, but making a separate category of recognition gives the subtle message that the rules are different for different genders, which (I thought) was the message we're trying to avoid.


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    5. Re:Hm. Hedy Lamarr Award? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2
      I understand what you are saying, but disagree. A separate category for women emphasizes the "under-represented and unrecognized" part. This isn't zero-sum, of course. There's room for a "Left field" award, which men and women are eligible for, and a "Smart women" award as well. The latter gives girls a clear set of role-models and even contacts, and highlights achievement against expectation.

      The day that as much as 40% of the "left field" award goes to women would be the day that I would subscribe to your 'gender-blind' model.

      The fact that the preponderance of the announcements of Hedy's death don't mention her intellectual accomplishments is an indication to me that we can't pretend a level playing field exists.

  21. Of pianos and spread spectrum by Ross+C.+Brackett · · Score: 2

    Interesting that the Wired article didn't link to an earlier Wired article mostly about George Antheil's masterpiece for the player piano, Ballet mécanique . Although mostly about Antheil, it also contains more information about Lamarr and spread spectrum later in the article. It's a fascinating read about a man's unreachable dreams of a mechanized symphony of player pianos finally coming to life after his death, using modern music technologies.

  22. Hedy Lamarr: Life Lesson by Savage+Henry+Matisse · · Score: 1
    When a was just a wee lad, my Mom used to tell me about Hedy Lamarr, how she was the most beautiful women ever and she invented spread-spectrum radio. Ever since, all of my dreams have been of divas and wireless connectivity.

    God bless you, Hedy. You're missed

    --
    Much Love,
    "S"HM
    *****
    (I refuse to spellcheck out of contempt for your belief system)
    1. Re:Hedy Lamarr: Life Lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to recall reading in a biography of Nikola Tesla of his use of multiple frequency transmissions to prevent jamming for a similar purpose that Lamarr's patent was designed--remote-controlled submarine use. Tesla's (unpatented) work was done prior to 1900. His idea was also rejected at the time by the military.

  23. Other Links by ewhac · · Score: 4

    Oh, sure, my submission about the passing of Ms. Lamarr gets rejected. Not that I'm bitter, mind you...

    Anyway, the San Francisco Chronicle ran a story about her passing, inclding some nic e photos of her. They also had an overview of her spread spectrum invention.

    Hedy was also honored by the EFF with a Pioneer Award in 1997 for her spread spectrum work.

    Schwab

  24. Re:Shouldn't that be "inventress" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    but some women really are men, like judge judy or gwyneth paltrow

  25. This is off-topic, but still in the spirit by Savage+Henry+Matisse · · Score: 2
    I used to work in an Army Surplus store. One of the managers was a guy named Tony: big guy, 6' 7", shaved head, always talking about the women who were browsing in the store, scoping them out, etc. One day we're sorting posters and I come across a Betty Page pin-up girly thing right in front of a poster celebrating Amelia Earhart.

    "Hey, Tone; who'd you rather have sex with: Amelia Earhart or Betty Page?"

    "Hank, I tell ya: Betty's got the package, right? Tits, abs, ass-she's built. But flyin' across the Atlantic solo? Man, that shit is hot."

    In 2 years, it was by far the most well reasoned, least sexist thing I ever heard him say.

    Tone would see the allure of Hedy, no problem. She's Betty's body with Amelia's soul.

    --
    Much Love,
    "S"HM
    *****
    (I refuse to spellcheck out of contempt for your belief system)
  26. Uh, that's SHE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now, give credit where credit's due.

  27. WOMEN BELONG IN THE KITCHEN!!! by Anonymous+Bastard · · Score: 0

    de-karma bizatches!@@#!!

  28. obligatory stab at a poorly written comment by RoLlEr_CoAsTeR · · Score: 1

    This is the first time I have ever heard of Hedy Lamarr the actress and the inventor!

    Yay me!

    Wish I had heard of her invention(s) before...

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    Insert mind here.
  29. ASSWIPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuff saID!!!

  30. Re:Shouldn't that be "inventress" by Quikah · · Score: 1

    Actually most of the "actresses" I have met actually prefer to be called actors. There was this one girl who told me that only airhead bimbos call themselves actresses. :)

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    Q.
  31. ..yes, while they were playing the piano.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..even. AND she was Austrian, oh baby.

  32. Hedy Lamarr: Ace Spy by Baldrson · · Score: 3
    From the biography of Hedy Lamarr:

    As the evening wore on, Lamarr began outlining her idea for a sophisticated antijamming device for use in radio-controlled torpedoes. If this seems out of character for a 26-year old film beauty, the fact is that not only did Lamarr possess a first-class mind but she also had listened to her husband's dinner-table business discussions with customers for his armaments. After all, Fritz Mandl's Hirtenberger Patronen-Fabrik had supplied much of the equipment Benito Mussolini used when his troops invaded Ethiopia in 1935.

  33. Um.. Hedly Lamarr? by psychophil.com · · Score: 1

    Am I crazy or was there a character called Hedly Lamar (note the L in hedly) in the movie Blazing Saddles?

    I've never put the two together before but the thought just popped in my head. Was this a coincedence or an homage?


    -scuz me while I whip this out...

    1. Re:Um.. Hedly Lamarr? by Dr.+Jest · · Score: 1

      And not only that, but didn't he (played by Harvey Korman, btw) have a problem with everyone always pronouncing his name "Hedy"? I always thought that was funny, but never really understood it until today. I'm guessing that it was homage, as Mel Brooks seemed to be celebrating classic Hollywood nonstop in his movies of the '70s.

    2. Re:Um.. Hedly Lamarr? by cgray4 · · Score: 1

      Yes. Madeline Kahn, who also died recently, did a wonderful Marlene Dietrich impersonation in Blazing Saddles, and was called Hedly Lamar. Given that it was Mel Brooks directing, I would doubt that this was either a coincedence or a homage, but rather a subtle (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) joke.

    3. Re:Um.. Hedly Lamarr? by Dr.+Jest · · Score: 1

      No, kahn played Lily Von Schtoop, the German singer. Hedley was Harvey Korman's villain. In this context (the real hedy being a beautiful actress), I guess it's easy to mistake the roles :).

    4. Re:Um.. Hedly Lamarr? by bjb · · Score: 1
      "Just think.. in 50 years you can sue HER for the name! HAHAHA!"

      (another shameless quote from Blazing Saddles)

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      Never hit your grandmother with a shovel, for it leaves a bad impression on her mind...
  34. ..and your mom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But dude, it's your MOM."

  35. WHERE CAN I FIND THIS SWORD??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I *MUST* have the sword you describe. Where can I find this castle you speak of? Who is Harkyn?

    Is he willing to sell the sword?

    Does he have a cute daughter? If he lives in a castle, he must be some kind of king or something, which would make her some kind of princess, and I *LOVE* turning princesses to stone!!!!

    "Hello, Princess"

    PRINCESS: "Is that a large sword in your sheath, or are you just happy to see me?"

    "I AM happy to see you, but it's actually... the STONE SWORD!!!!!!!"

    PRINCESS: "........."

    "Now I have my way with you, Princess"

    ***WHOOSH, HOO YEAH***

    I must know more about this sword!

    Please!

  36. The Hedy Lamarr Award for Lateral Thinking by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2
    If there's to be a proposition for a Hedy Lamarr award, why not make it for the person of any gender who's had the best out-of-left-field idea that made the most impact?

    Speaking of lateral thinking, that's a far better idea than the one I came up with. Hat's off to you.

    How about it Slashdot? If you want I'll start developing products that we can sell...proceeds to go to the Hedy Lamarr Award for Lateral Thinking.


    TOYWAR!!
  37. !!!!!!!!!!!I like turning SMART WOMEN to STONE!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are *RIGHT ON*!!!

    Smart women are for more than just inventing stuff and looking good.

    THEY'RE FOR TURNING TO STONE!!!!!!

  38. Of course, it's latent nerd woman-fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...because there's that nagging fear that those hot chix0rs in highschool that wouldn't give them the time of day might have been uber-geeks in the privacy of their own homes.

  39. The prize is that she gets turned to stone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SUGGESTION

    As a prize to the winner, we TURN HER TO STONE.

    Then, EVERYBUDDY wins!!!!

  40. Why doesn't the Bible say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how to turn women to stone?

    You know the Bible quite well so I'm asking you.

    The Bible doesn't mention turning girls to stone. So is it a good thing or a bad thing????? Is it sinful??

    PLEASE ANSWER.

    1. Re:Why doesn't the Bible say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have overlooked it:

      In Paul's Epistle to His Mommy (Zip 3:16) it says:

      And unto thee, I, thy LORD, giveth the gift of turnething maids to stone. Pray untooeth the LORD at th' stroke of EVENTIDE at the START of th next REAL WORLD MARATHON on MTV

    2. Re:Why doesn't the Bible say.... by odaiwai · · Score: 2

      Well, Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt, which is pretty close.

      dave

  41. IN THE KITCHEN NAKED AND PETRIFIED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NOT JUST IN THE KITCHEN, BUT:

    -IN THE KITCHED
    -BAREFOOT
    -NAKED
    -PETRIFIED

  42. Naked Petrified Lamer Anonymous Cowards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather see naked and petrified AC's. Not because I'd lust after them, but because then they'll SHUT UP ABOUT PETRIFIED WOMEN.

  43. OPEN SOURCE HEDY LAMARR by opensourceman · · Score: 0

    as i sit here drinking my glass of red wine (for my high cholesterol), smoking a cigarette (to replenish that coating of tar i lost when i had to abstain from smoking due to an earth-scorching case of bronchitis) and browsing alt.binaries.nospam.teenfem while waiting (forever) for the slashdot pages to load, i can't help but to make an observation here.

    when trying to come to grips with a situation like this, one must always ask oneself, "what would natalie portman do in this situation." this couldn't be any more appropriate than in this situation. after all, hedy lamarr was a hot young actress once!

    well, one thing i can assure you, natalie portman is not reading a slashdot story about the death of hedy lamarr. harsh, yes... but true. so, what would natalie portman be doing?

    i can only answer this by thinking about what i would be doing if i was natalie portman. if i was natalie portman, i think i would be standing, naked, in front of the mirror. i would be touching myself sensually. i would explore the new curves budding on my chest. i would explore the firmness of my swelling buttocks. i would carefully explore that new (open) source of goodness thriving between my legs.

    i guess what i'm trying to say is, shutdown your browser (don't worry, slashdot will load back up in an hour or so), go grab a barely 18 and go do some exploring in the bathroom.

    that's what natalie would be doing and that's what i'm gonna do!


    thank you.

    1. Re:OPEN SOURCE HEDY LAMARR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i would carefully explore that new (open) source of goodness thriving between my legs.

      it's not open source till Eric Raymond gets his mitts in it.

      well, actually by now i guess it is...

    2. Re:OPEN SOURCE HEDY LAMARR by opensourceman · · Score: 1

      that was a spine-chilling thought, brother.

    3. Re:OPEN SOURCE HEDY LAMARR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      btw that was some funny shit, man
      just thought id let you know

    4. Re:OPEN SOURCE HEDY LAMARR by opensourceman · · Score: 1

      thanks!

  44. Actually, she was partly recognized for tech. by iKev · · Score: 3

    A Canadian company specializing in wireless technology, Wi-Lan,acquired the original patent from Lamarr for "spread spectrum" technology back in 1998. Wi-Lan claimed that they were going to promote her role in developing the technology but sadly, I never saw much of that (I live in Canada and recall reading the article in June/98 in TCP, before Wi-Lan's apparent "discovery" by investors). The long overdue credit could still happen, but it's not the same once the co-inventor is dead (Lamarr's husband helped invent SST).

    Read about it here


    http://www.wilan.com/news/press/press23a.html

    1. Re:Actually, she was partly recognized for tech. by greenrd · · Score: 1
      I don't get it. Why pay for a stake in a patent that expired decades ago?

  45. Re:HEDY LAMARR NAKED AND PETRFIED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You must be the NATALIE PORTMAN HOT GRITS guy..

    Could someone pleeeease let me in on this? Don't MAKE me get Kibo on yo' ass.

  46. You missed it! by Len · · Score: 1
    You should blast yourself, either for being a deficient geek or for not paying enough attention to the "mainstream media". I heard the spread-spectrum story a couple of years ago on the radio, at least twice.

    She was also in the news in '98 when she sued Corel for using her picture on the CorelDraw box without permission.
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  47. Blazing Saddles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not Hedy, HEDLY LAMARR!

  48. BUT WHY DID NITROZAKS KOMMIE FRIENDS BAN ME??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was banned from Nitrozak's SHITTY message board just for speaking the TRUTH. That stuff is EVIl!!! Nitrozak and her friends are ******EVIL COMMUNISTS*******

    KICK them in the heads.

    People who ban me are evil!!

    1. Re:BUT WHY DID NITROZAKS KOMMIE FRIENDS BAN ME??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      would that include natalie portman now that she has a restraining order on slashdot readers? [1]

      or not?

      Footnotes:

      [1] It's true! Apparently she found out about all the threats against her!

    2. Re:BUT WHY DID NITROZAKS KOMMIE FRIENDS BAN ME??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you give us a url for that?

  49. Connection to Microsoft? :-) :-) :-) by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Here's a quote from the San Francisco Chronicle obit (near the bottom):

    She was married and divorced six times -- to ... and lawyer Lewis W. Boies Jr

    Could this lawyer be any relation to the Boies hired by the DoJ who did such a wonderful job against M$?

    And moderators -- lighten up! laugh, it's funny!

    :-) :-) :-)

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  50. It was obvious from the title by Skapare · · Score: 0

    It was obvious from the title what this was about. I happened to be particularly interested because I was in a discussion just yesterday about her invention of spread spectrum.

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    now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
  51. Blazing Saddles by Maquis. · · Score: 1

    Its Headly!@#

    ;)

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    Wiggeda Wiggeda Wack - Kriss Kross
  52. Arguably our last great heroine and patriot by kerouac · · Score: 3

    Outside of the obvious things that she did for science and the Allied forces during WWII- as well as the simple fact that I would not have a modem if not for her, the one thing that sticks in my mind is this:

    After her accomplishments were turned over to the Government for the war effort, they did not welcome her into the halls of the nations think tanks.



    Instead, they asked her to sell her sex appeal as a spokesmodel for the sale of U.S. war bonds.

    Out of sheer patriotism, she did.

    I'm just happy that she has started to recieve some of the respect that she's had coming for so long, and that the EFF was good enough to say 'thanks' while she was still alive.



  53. IN THE KITCHEN NAKED AND PETRIFIED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CLICK HERE, and then click on the SECOND PICTURE on the SECOND ROW.

    ENJOY!

  54. Re:Dear Rob Malda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its your fucking problem for looking up ada, the language of the military power structre.

    use GNAT, developed at NYU!!!

  55. Bzzzt... wrong by Skapare · · Score: 1

    If you know how to do a web search, then search, and learn the truth.

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    now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
    1. Re:Bzzzt... wrong by Maquis. · · Score: 1

      Blazing Saddles quote?

      --
      Wiggeda Wiggeda Wack - Kriss Kross
  56. Tesla invented this much earlier! by Epitaph · · Score: 4

    I've read quite a bit about Nikola Tesla and his inventions, and I'm certain he invented this system right after the turn of the century.

    He invented radio, patented it, and in 1893 gave a lecture about it and published it free for everyone in the world to use. He was then totally ripped off by Marconi around the turn of the century when he made the first transatlantic broadcast using the exact same apparatus that Tesla had described in the paper he published.

    At this time, Tesla was trying to push the government to adopt his system of wireless war machines that could do battle without having humans be sitting ducks inside them. He demonstrated a model boat at the world's fair that was not only wireless, but used spread spectrum techonology to encrypt its signal. Nobody, of course picked up on this.

    He went on to invent radar and offered to build radar systems for the government in the late 1920's, but they refused, and were forced to play catchup in 1938 and develop their own radar system.

    If you'd like some more information about Tesla, go check out this short article about his major achievements: http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/ tesla/tesla.html.

    Tesla was not a crackpot, like a lot of people who know nothing about the man seem to think. This view was created by Thomas Edison who spent a large portion of his life trying to smash Tesla's image, and he ended up succeeding very well.

    - Chris

    1. Re:Tesla invented this much earlier! by Epitaph · · Score: 0

      I certainly hope not.

    2. Re:Tesla invented this much earlier! by mTor · · Score: 1

      Tesla was one of _the_ best scientists of 20th century. They could have named him Man of the Century easily. Tons of stuff that we take for granted today was invented in part by him.

      --
      GroundAndPound.com News and info for martial artists of all styles.

  57. LET'S START WITH YOU. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're an Anonymous Coward. We'll turn YOU to stone first.

  58. Re:Hot petrification artwork by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    SEXY, BRAH, **VERY** **SEXY***

    NOW HOW BOUT SOME HEMOS PETRIFICATION, BRAH?

  59. Hmm. by mindstrm · · Score: 3

    Actually.. I think saying 'Spread Spectrum' covers more than just Frequency Hopping....
    There is Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum, Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum.. and I'm sure there are/will be others....

    Freq. Hopping is when you shift carrier frequencies arond within the wider spectrum (hence, spread) that you are using.

    Direct Sequence is a lot wierder (very closely tied in to CDMA... or rather, I think CDMA is an extension of DSSS). In direct sequency, you simply 'spread' the signal over the whole wide spectrum at once.... and the special way the signal is coded gives it redundancy, and makes it hide.

    in FHSS, on a spectrum analyzer, a definite pattern of carriers on different frequencies shows up.. ina proper bell curve around the center frequency. (I think it's a bell.. something similar anyway).

    in DSSS, on a spectrum analyzer, a 'plateau' is all you see.. with fuzz under it.

    1. Re:Hmm. by Phil+Karn · · Score: 3

      Lamarr's invention was specifically for frequency hopping spread spectrum. Their original implementation used identical player piano rolls at the transmitter and receiver. It was not a practical scheme, which is why it wasn't used for many years until it became possible to implement in electronics.

      Frequency hopping found its main application in military anti-jam links, just as Lamarr envisioned. It is also used in some (but not all) Part 15 wireless LANs.

      The spread spectrum used in GPS and in CDMA cell phones is the *other* form of spread spectrum, direct sequence. Lamarr did not invent this.

      Both forms of spread spectrum can appear as featureless wideband noise signals. They are generally flat across their bandwidth, though this can be affected by filtering. Frequency hopped systems can be programmed to avoid certain channels, thus punching "holes" in the spectrum. An IS-95 CDMA cellular signal, which uses direct sequence, is 1.25 MHz wide, and on a spectrum analyzer it bears a close resemblance to the top of Bart Simpson's head due to the filtering in the transmitter. From the early days of CDMA development at Qualcomm we called this a "Bart's head" signal.

  60. E-mail me if you have any questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I will give you another one of my alternate e-mail addresses, since I don't want to give out my real e-mail addresses here:

    bigmac@itookmyprozac.com

    I am "naked and petrified guy", I am not "hot grits guy" or "open source man". WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH OUR OWN IDENTITIES!!!

    So e-mail me, because I don't know what you want "in on". You'll have to be more specific. Or "get Kibo on" my ass. That sounds FUN. Now, I'm no expert, but Kibo sounds really messed-up.

    1. Re:E-mail me if you have any questions by opensourceman · · Score: 1

      is that really you, cm?

    2. Re:E-mail me if you have any questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. I have many e-mail addresses.

      **I HAVE UNRETIRED**

      We should do another co-op project sometime. It worked really great last time.

    3. Re:E-mail me if you have any questions by opensourceman · · Score: 1

      Totally!

  61. Re:HEDY LAMARR NAKED AND PETRFIED part 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm with you. I haven't read a decent slashdot comment in a looong time.

    ...of course, the other alternative is to cremate her, smoke her ashes, and get stoned, incidentally jamming radio frequencies.

    ...but, that sounds more likely than waiting for some good slashdot moderation.

    Please, moderate this *story* down, so we can get some News already.

    Actually, here, I'll help. It's POSSIBLE SLASHDOT STORYTIME, boys and girls!

    Let me just search through the OBITUARIES real quick.

    OH MY GOD! Did you know that at least FOUR important people DIE in every MAJOR CITY in every AMERICAN NEWSPAPER, every DAY?!?!?!

    I'll list a few here so you'll all be posted for tomorrow.

    Seattle

    Boston

    Grosse Pointe

    This just in: Only famous people in America in big cities *actually* die!

    And you can read all about it in Slashdot! "News for Nerds; Dead people that Mattered".
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    Posting Anonymously Out Of Slashdot Community Mistrust.

  62. try again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    damn LINUX ZEALOT

  63. Women in the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  64. yo!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BLOW IT OUT YER ASS

  65. Maybe he wanted to turn them to stone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't want to have sex with EITHER of them. I'd rather turn them TO STONE.

  66. Re:Shouldn't that be "inventress" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    :) Cute. A few additions / corrections:

    aviator - aviatrix (I believe Amelia Earheart objected to the term)

    gigolo - prostitute

    All the ones with "man" ending them -- usually replaced by "woman". (I think it's Hebrew -- "of man" -- of course, that's also offensive. But, if it was supposed to be "of woman", then we'd be "wowoman", and we'd just wander around all day going "whoa"... "WHOA!"... and not get any work done. :)

    king -- queen

    ...and remember, guys, for every dollar a man earns, a woman gets ~ 60 cents. So if you're wondering why you work all day and only get 40 cents to the dollar, it's those darn women. ;)

  67. GAWD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just had a sooper jesus orgasm thinking about DISTANCE EDUCation!

    imagine thgat, doods!!!!!!

    31337 for us kiddies!

  68. Her Partner was ahead of his time, too! by retrosteve · · Score: 2

    Hedy Lamarr's patent partner, George Antheil, was also no slouch at premature applications of future technologies. His riot-inciting work, Ballet Mécanique required sixteen synchronized player pianos to sound right. This wasn't technically possible until 1991, and first performed correctly in 1999 so perhaps the "George Antheil award for premature killer apps" is in order too... Anyway we geeks will miss you, Hedy!

  69. HE TURNED WOMEN TO STONE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    THAT's how he'd be ahead of his time!

  70. Another take... by pb · · Score: 2

    Apparently you only get this famous after you die and you finally can't stop the media from talking about you--it sounds like the story of her life.

    Here's a link from before she died...

    MIT Inventors

    Now, the Forbes article was pretty good. I can understand how someone with her background could help out on an idea like this, but she certainly didn't invent it outright, which is what the Wired article sounds like. Maybe we could have gotten the full story before, but she's dead now, and let the media make a story about it all they want, they always do...
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  71. Re:NAKED+PETRIFIED MUSLIM GIRLS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know this *really* hot muslim chick and god! what I would give for her to be naked and petrified and in my house!

    if only allah would hear my prayers

  72. A toast.. (and a picture) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2
    Aye, to Hedy, the original, brainy, beautiful Tech Talking Babe (jpg).

    (perhaps Ada Lovelace was the penultimate original tech talking babe, but can't forget Nitrozac either .. oh my)

  73. Yup. by jeffsplace · · Score: 2

    Tesla is one guy who really got screwed by history. I remember back in the day (OK, early 90s when I was still *listening* to Tesla, the band) doing some research for a college paper on Tesla. He was also the one that pressed for the use of Alternating Current when Edison was pushing for Direct Current. We all know which one is more widely used, but somehow, we all think Edison came up with that idea.

    Tesla was, however, very eccentric which didn't help his image any.

  74. Huh? I'm not sure I get your point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we all know beautiful women aren't smart -- look at all the women in comp-sci

    What are you talking about? All the woman I've ever seen in Comp-Sci have been unnatractive nerds. I mean, not that I'm not an unatractive nerd, but I wouldn't want to date one.

    Like everyone in CS, they range from smart to stupid. And like everyone in CS, they are mostly stupid. Most will probably drop down to MIS where they can hurt more people with there stupidy. (I'm talking about all CS-students, not jsut girls here).

    Anyway, all CS-girls are ugly, so I don't see how you can make any sort of point.

    1. Re:Huh? I'm not sure I get your point... by miscellaneous · · Score: 1

      no. that's not true.

      now, a lot of *american* cs girls are ugly, but then a lot of american cs guys are ugly. cs people are just aesthetically challeged.

      now, a lot of the international students in CS are surprisingly normal (oh yeah, cs people are also normality challenged). i'm not saying that this implies anything about the perception of computer people in us culture but....er, it does.

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      -k. ^-^ ^D
    2. Re:Huh? I'm not sure I get your point... by miscellaneous · · Score: 1

      the last post didn't read to well. what it says, specifically, is that normal, well-adjusted, attractive people of both genders are discouraged from going into science or computer science (women more than men, i think).

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      -k. ^-^ ^D
  75. Keep praying, friend. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't give up on your dreams of naked+petrified girls. NEVER give up on your dreams of naked+petrified girls.

    Maybe paganism holds the answers? I know these Wiccan dudes who claim they know how to turn girls to stone. I'm going to give them money, and they're going to tell me how. It'll be SWEET.

  76. This is FANTASTIC!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A thread based on something NEW!!!

    We only have 3 more posts of the same thing today and one more every 6 mos. That is until the Andover stock drops.

    UGH

  77. That's a kill, folks. /.ed today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better luck tomorrow.

  78. wow by delmoi · · Score: 1

    Someone dies

    Someone posts to slashdot with a link to "hot pics" of said person, and gets a score+1 informative?



    "Subtle Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",

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  79. no no-god??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, ur kewl.

    You replaced all the sentances that he said, with ones meaning the opposite. asside from 'no-god' being an absolutly stupid hack, this type of argument is usualy only used to invalidate, therefor you simply devalued both arguments by posting it. Ah well, stupid chistians. whatever

  80. Re:USE OF CELL PHONES INCREASE RISK OF HOBBIT CANC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Ooooo! So my chances of cancer from cell phones went up by 1000%! Now my odds of cancer are 1 in 1e12 instead of 1 in 1e16. *yawn* In the real world, episilon is still zero for all practical purposes.

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    Feedin' crap to the trolls, until they barf.

  81. "Hard Limit Reached" by clyons · · Score: 1
    I just tired to look at the website listed in the article, and got the following: 500 Server Error

    The hard transfer limit for this user has been reached

    Not everyone has a site that can be slashdotted. Not everyone can afford it. I think in this case, someone has web hosting with limits, and we exceeded them.

    A page that is probably lucky to get maybe a few hundred hits a month has probably been hit more tonight then it has in it's entire existance. In this case, some person's content may be totally inaccessable to others until their next billing period, which is sad.

    Slashdot needs to remember this before linking a url in an article like that.

    Problem is, I don't have a solution. Any suggestions?

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    1. Re:"Hard Limit Reached" by Skapare · · Score: 1

      An ISP that triggers limits like that on an automatic basis so quickly is not one that ANYONE should use at ANY price range. Any decent ISP (and there are way too few of them) would recognize a spike and just ride it out for at least a day, with a review to be done by a human. Checks should be made to make sure they aren't posting the newest Redhat ISO image or something like that. Sure, if they buy the low level of service, then they shouldn't be expected to sustain a continuous 10000/hr rate (as being slashdotted could potentially do for a day or so for the most popular sites). But it doesn't help the ISP any to give 500 when slashdotted.

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  82. Re:HEDY LAMARR NAKED AND PETRIFIED PART 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you know? Our open source socialist pamphlet distributing countries actively clone cute teenage girls and turn them to stone!!! Socialism and cute petrified teenage girls go hand in hand!!!

  83. Hedy Lamarr's nude scene by / · · Score: 3

    In case anyone missed it, the German film Ecstasy which launched Hedy Lamarr's career had a nude scene. It's quite tasteful by today's standards, and no, there's no petrification involved.

    And if it doesn't disturb you to ogle the body of someone who is now dead, you should perhaps reconsider. And if you find it disturbing that someone posted this comment, then you're probably right.

    --
    "If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
    1. Re:Hedy Lamarr's nude scene by cjr · · Score: 1

      The linked to picture is captioned as: "Shown above is the infamous skinny dipping scene."
      Actually, what was probably most shocking was that she wasn't merely displayed clearly nude in the water (as seen on the photograph), but also on land. She wanders around a bit, walks over a meadow and caresses a horse, all in the nude, though with a gauze. Innocent beauty.

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      -cjr
  84. Re:BILL KLINTON SUCKS AND NITROZAK SUCKS by qqaz · · Score: 0

    A few comments:

    1. I've never heard of Bill Klinton
    2. Socialism is not necessarily the same as Communism
    3. Communists and Nazis are complete opposites, as well as arch-enemies.

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  85. Re:********* ----->WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey dude if you think east coast liberals are bad STAY AWAY FROM THE LEFT COAST!
    Out there the paganist homolesbian communists have taken over the government for the decent God-fearing Americans by using the vote of the half-breed Mexican. In fact the left coast is home to the worlds largest population of homolesbian sodomists, half-breed mexicans asians and negroes, and computer "scientists". Is this a coincidence? I think not.

  86. Worship Chan as a Man not a Deity by TheDeal · · Score: 1

    Why reply anonamously? Be proud to be the athiest you are. But since we've gotten into the whole spiritual thing, why not just worship me not as a god, or God but as a man not a deity. I say it's good for women to do their thing, in fact I have a thing for good-looking women that can apreciate the geek speek. Let them love me and i'll love them (unless they're piggies, tons of them at my school). Be happy that they do something instead of spend your money! Please for my cell phone's sake.. let the women think, and sure let them think they are superior whatever. it's all perspective. Even all that hippe christain stuff.

  87. My first wife by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You have a good point.

    My first wife was extremely beautiful, almost (but not quite) on par with Hedy Lamarr. She was well educated and articulate. My first wife was also a pathological liar, a compulsive shoplifter, sexually cold and distant, a check kiter, and occasional drunkard. She was mixed up in credit card fraud and all sorts of petty larceny. She was the perfect con artist and because of her beauty I've seen her con cops and judges in court. She beat many a rap.

    She had a mean temper when drinking, and was bulemic to boot. Well, my friends all envied me because she was so poised and lovely to look at. If they only knew ...

    Moral: beauty is only skin deep. I know oh how I know. Hedy Lamarr once said something to the effect that ``any woman can be glamorous, just stand still and look dumb''.

    1. Re:My first wife by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She fooled you, didn't she...I wouldn't be bragging. Your whole problem was getting married in the first place...that's a god-damned death sentence. Either you die married, or you become Divorced, which is a fate worse than death.

  88. Actor or Actress? by Wench · · Score: 1

    Yeah, true, _now_ - but think history, man.

    She was an actress in the 1930s-50s, and that's what they said back then.


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  89. Hedy Lammarr Website by mailuefterl · · Score: 1

    A pretty good Hedy Lamarr Website can be found at www.hedylamarr.at . It's in German as well as in English, an offers some nice information about her Invention.

  90. Links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.techmall.com/techdocs/TS970826-16.html http://www.astr.ua.edu/4000WS/didyouknow.1.html http://web.mit.edu/invent/www/inventorsI-Q/lamarr. html

  91. Just keep laughing by Q*bert · · Score: 2
    Till the Linux Router Project picks up steam. ;)

    Vovida, OS VoIP
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    Cold pints: $2 #Product

  92. What about Sharon Stone and Jodie Foster? by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    Yes, they are told to have IQ in the 130s.
    What are they inventing?
    But probably you can make much more money in world-class acting vs. inventing now than in the 30s.
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    1. Re:What about Sharon Stone and Jodie Foster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Sharon Stone's IQ is 154.

      http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2613/sharon/b io.html


  93. Patents, Hedy, George, possibilities, and Slashdot by ChrisInSF · · Score: 5
    I was very sad to hear about the death of Hedy Lamarr tonight, and I wanted to share my opinions on her invention. George Antheil, her co-inventor, was my father, and Hedy's son Tony is a close friend of mine.

    The story of the "Secret Communications System" patent is truly one of the most incredible stories I've ever heard, (wouldn't it make a great film?) and a look at the patent is a real eye-opener for people who are familiar with modern digital technology.. Why? Because the design was for a digital system built with analog components..

    And the person who said that Hedy and George had given their patent to the government in hopes of helping to stop Hitler was right..Hedy had seen facists and facism at close hand.. and so had my father, and they both knew what was at stake..

    in spite of this, Hedy was still looked at suspiciously as an "enemy alien" by some.. :(

    She was married off by her family when she was stillin her teens, and was kept virtual prisoner in Austria as a "trophy bride" of the Austrian arms magnate Fritz Mandel a few years before the war, and she literally had to drug a maid in order to flee..

    While being forced to sit at the dinner table with her husband and his facist friends, who included high-ranking Nazi military officials, she built up a knowledge of military technology and carried that with her when she fled to London. (where Samuel Goldwyn, I think, gave her a ticket to the US) She met my father at a party at Janet Gaynor's house, and asked him if he could help her turn what was then a valid, but unformed idea into something that could work..(My father had a reputation in Hollywood as an experimental musician and as somebody who was familiar with the latest in technology..)

    It took them about six months to do the whole process, and the patent is really interesting.

    (you can see it at http://www.ncafe.com/chris/pat2/index.html at some point. I tried to check my site tonight and got a message saying that I had exceeded my "hard limit" ..Ive been linked to by media outlets several times, but this has never happened before..

    I have my web site virtual hosted at what was until recently Best, but they were recently bought by Verio -perhaps "assimilated" is a better word..:(

    (Best said that they would not turn off a site for a short anomaly like being picked "Cool Site of the Day", which is sort of like what has happened..but maybe that has changed..)

    an aside...does anybody have any suggestions how to avoid this in the future?

    Hedy and George never made a penny from the patent, which was really unjust, I think, because the government had classified it as "Top Secret" and made the commercial utilization of the invention difficult. Just after the patent expired, in 1960, it began to see commercial use..(in the Cuban Missle Crisis) Its now the main secure communications technology in use in Milstar, the US govt's 25 billion dollar "survivable" satellite communications system. Spread Spectrum is, in addition to being an incredibly efficient way to send data, inherently secure.. (one needs to know the code, in order to read the message..or usually, even know a message exists..)

    By the way, spread spectrum holds out another possibility with startling implications.. It could be used to create a new television and/or radio broadcasting service that would be able to, in any given geographic area, accomodate the broadcast of many, many more channels of information, at higher quality, than we have now, eliminating scarcity on the airwaves and the battles over bandwidth .. Just imagine, community radio, community television, creativity, true democracy of the airwaves, and perhaps, even, no need for a license to broadcast..and no more canned satellite shows..

    That possibility scares some interests tremendously. And its something worth fighting for.

    They have digital radio in Europe, why not here?

    Guess why...

    Back to the patent:
    Just a thought:
    The government sat on this..Rightfully, they should have compensated Hedy and George for that, or extended the patent to make up for the years in which it was classified... I know that Hedy was poor for many years.. until quite recently actually. She lived on a small pension and basically spent time with friends and tried to live cheaply.. My father was better off in the later years of his life, I understand, but was never rich in the same way that many well-known composers were. He was quite prolific musically, writing the scores for over 60 films.. But my favorite music of his was his early pieces.. He was enamoured with the possibilities opened up by machines, which could play faster and more accurately than any human ever could..

    Anyway, my father died about six weeks after I was born, so I never knew him.. But I definitely did inherit his interest in communications technology...and music..and now that I know the real story, I'm very proud of him..

    Now if only I could only get my only two relatives on this planet to stop saying I'm "blackmailing" them for simply being open about my father..(Its a generational thing, I guess. my mother and father weren't married, big deal..)

    By the way, thanks for an excellent site, I read it almost every day..

    Chris Beaumont
    chris@ncafe.com

  94. Arrested! by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    Funny. I have found no comments about the fact that according to the IMDB bio (link in the article), she was arrested two times for shoplifting (in 1966 and 1991).
    Had she used her genius for Good!
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    1. Re:Arrested! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alas, this kind of behavior isn't unusual. From reading the stories on Hedy Lamarr, it seem like she died in solitude, and probably was alone the few remaining years of her life. Please be aware, I'm definitely not condoning her behavior.

      Even, Lady Augusta Lovelace, considered by many to be the first programmer, was a heavy horse racing gambler. She ran up massive gamblings debts, pawned the family jewels twice, just to keep up her gambling habit. Even, Charles Babbage, ran up heavy gambing debts.

      So, who knows what Hedy was thinking when she tried to take the items, but it was also stated that no charges were brought against her.

  95. marketroids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    That fucking press release is offensive.

    "Like Ms. Lamarr, Wi-LAN is a pioneer in the invention of spread spectrum wireless technology and we want to keep her contribution prominent as we continue to build on the technology to enhance global communication."

  96. Jodie Foster found aliens. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    And invented a spaceship to fly in space.

  97. To moderators: Informative by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    Moderators, the parent page is highly informative, an account of a related part, besides he is the owner of one of the pages linked in the article.
    But I couldn't see it, even the cached page at Google.
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  98. where do you get this stuff?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I want to think perl scripts, but they
    couldn't be too stupid (I mean, there is bit of variation there...

  99. Never happen today by heroine · · Score: 3

    Amazing how World War II got a lot of women to do things they would never to today. With all the men fighting it was like a phsychological switch. By forcing them to take their husband's place they found that technology wasn't impossible and that seems to have carried over into the 60's. Today of course, there is no incentive for them to work and we live in a rapidly moving economy, with very high economic mobility, equal opportunity for everyone, and no women.

  100. lady after my own heart! by kd5biv · · Score: 1

    so we now have a TRUE hacker goddess ..

    'bout time if you ask me .. ;-)

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  101. spread-spectrum not only frequency-hopping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the spread-spectrum scheme that Lamarr came up with was direct-sequence, where you code across time, not across frequency tones as in frequency-hopping.

  102. Nitrozac is fed up. by Nitrozac · · Score: 2

    For the past few months I've been reading Slashdot's front page and avoiding reading the comments because of the idiots who post petrified crap here. (BTW, you can thank me for being a part of the clean-up at Segfault) :-)

    For the first time in about 2 months I checked out the comments here because I've been getting a ton of email to check out this story. I'm furious at the sheer amount of the stone posts, I just don't think the moderation is clearing them out fast enough. I think Slashdot should ban the IPs of these abusers, because in essence if you just leave them to post, you're pushing away the many intelligent women who would like to be a part of this community, including myself.

    These petrified posts, assault women, they're cleary mysogynist. I think the intent is to drive away women. It's a good way to turn /. into a woman-hating boy's club. It's a real shame, because I know the women that would like to contribute here, I believe /. is suffering from their absence.

    I understand that freedom of speech is important, but wouldn't you want IPs to be banned if they spewed racist hate? Why does /. allow women to be raped literally here, like someone did to me on my interview page?

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    1. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Shadowcat · · Score: 1

      I am in agreement with Nitrozac. I LIKE Slashdot. I've been posting here for a little while but not as often as I like because FRANKLY I get a little turned off at seeing people make such chauvinistic remarks. I'm a big girl and I can handle it and all, but seeing people repeatedly bashing women isn't exactly a good way to get us to post because, I don't know about others, but I just don't want to waste my time arguing with a brick wall.

      I've fought most of my life because while I'm a girl, I've liked computers and role-playing and anime and video games. I always had to hang out with boys to get to do the things I REALLY loved and I wasn't accepted because of it. I was labeled all kinds of things in school and kids can be quite cruel. It's very disheartening to see that although *I* have grown up into a woman, people still don't give me the respect I feel I deserve. I thought PERHAPS in this community I could actually fit in and, to some extent, I have. At the same time there are enough misogynist pigs out there who make my time on /. unenjoyable. Even those who don't think of themselves as being bigoted still make remarks that can hurt (which, frankly, is part of the reason I've become so close with the people in the After-Y2K message boards and such because THERE I am appreciated for the TTB I am :))

      The point I am trying to make is it's time for people to open their eyes and see that being a Geek goes beyond gender. It's a state of mind... it's attributed to your likes and dislikes and your mental capacity, and not whether you wear a skirt or high-heeled boots.

      When is it going to stop?


      -- Shadowcat

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    2. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Snaggy · · Score: 1

      Just want to add my voice to this cause. Nitrozac is right, it's really time to make some changes here to get rid of the woman hating and offensive stuff. I run Nitro's humble little message board. By banning a couple of IP's, the statue garbage was stopped. (One of the offending creep even complains about it elsewhere in these posts.) So it does work, and the world can be a better place.

      You know, it's time we guys realized how horrible and offensive this stuff is to our women. Please take a bit of responsibility.



    3. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could anyone be offended by the 'petrification' posts? Clearly they can't be taken seriously on any level. On the other hand, referring to oneself in the third person should be punishable by death. :-)

    4. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Azog · · Score: 2

      Hey Nitrozac. I browse at +2 and I've never seen a petrified post except for a couple that got moderated up as Funny. (except when I'm moderating, and I browse at -1, or when I'm meta moderating and get to approve of people moderating the petrified posts down).

      I agree those posts are the worst thing on Slashdot. We should try to get rid of them. But, banning IP's is a bad idea. People can change their IPs, and sometimes many people can be behind the same IP.

      I think that allowing posting only by logged in users is a good idea. However, logged in people should still be able to post anonymously - but moderation of their anonymous comments should still apply to them. I also like the idea of people temporarily losing the right to post every time they get moderated down to -1. That would get rid of a lot of the petrified stuff, and would be nice.

      But mainly, I think Slashdot works ok. It's certainly better then the newsgroups, which I gave up on six years ago. In the meantime, I think you need to change your viewing options. Aren't the default viewing options +2? If not, I certainly think they should be. We don't want new users to see all the crap unless they want to.

      And I like your comic strip, by the way.

      Torrey Hoffman (Azog)

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    5. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Tau+Zero · · Score: 2
      I'm largely in agreement with Nitrozac's conclusion, though I am not personally affected the same way she is. My complaints are along different lines:
      1. This stuff increases the load on the servers, and the traffic on the lines. The cumulative effect of so many of them is a creeping denial-of-service attack.
      2. Worse is the demand on people's attention. I haven't seen the /. thread yet which was meant to be a piece out of talk.bizarre. These things would have a place there, but anywhere else they're off-topic and just wasting people's time even to page past them.
      3. The repetition has lost them whatever humor value they ever had. A six-year-old will laugh at the same joke ten times in a row, but most /.'ers have advanced beyond the mentality of a six-year-old. The poster(s) seem to have serious cases of arrested development.
      4. The poster(s) have this obsession with helpless, sexualized objects. It's pretty obvious that their fantasies involve encounters with blow-up dolls. (Has anyone pointed them at the "I Love Ewe" yet?)
      5. As Katz has been noting over the past few days, this place is hostile to a lot of groups. Perhaps not deliberately, but there's a culture-clash here that isn't along ethnic, class or religious lines, but sexual ones. The people you're alienating aren't "them"; they are your mother, your sister, your girlfriend. What's really sad is that these posters don't have the empathy to care.
      I found it amusing that the only person to stick up for the N&P postings was an AC; he (almost certainly "he") wouldn't even put the reputation of a login behind his defense.

      What to do about it? Ban the IP's? If they're from some large proxy server, this causes a lot of collateral damage. I favor the idea of giving moderators renewable (based on prompt meta-moderation) points for "off-topic", "redundant" and perhaps a new category of "hateful" down-moderations, combined with some auto-moderation which kicks things down based on all the boring and repetetive key-phrases most of us have come to hate. If "naked and petrified" automatically posts at -1 (Offtopic), moderators don't have to waste any time at all.
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    6. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I took a quick look but didn't see any offensive posts. Which ones were "petrified" or "mysogynist"?

    7. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I hadn't noticed I had changed threshold to 0 so I haven't been seeing any "petrified" messages. Having checked a few I'll keep it at 0.

    8. Re:Nitrozac is fed up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what an ignorant, self-righteous ass. you've been trolled, fool!

  103. NITROZAK'S COMMIE FRIENDS...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ........BANNED ME FROM HER COMMUNIST MESSAGE BOARD

    I HATE HER COMMUNIST MESSAGE BOARD AND I NEVER WANT TO POST THERE, WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE THE ****************ERS BANNED ME!!

    NITROZAK SUCKS
    AFTER Y2K SUCKS
    NITROZAK'S KOMMUNIST FRIENDS SUCK

    1. Re:NITROZAK'S COMMIE FRIENDS...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Quite obviously, you suck.

      They probably banned you for being a moron and a loser. You're typing in all caps, fer crying out loud.


      juan




  104. Hooray! How may I become a SOCIALIST?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought Socialism was evil, but if I can get some naked+petrified girls out of it, SIGN ME UP.

  105. Not just Nitrozac is fed up. by Matter+Eating+Lad · · Score: 1

    Thanks Nitrozac for speaking up. I'm a guy, and I too find this hate-speak to be really unacceptable. I just don't understand the reasoning behind letting it continue. The only real reason I can see is that Slashdot wants the banner hits from these creeps.

    Unfortunately, in the long run, it means less banner hits, as intelligent readers go elsewhere. Hey, I go to Segfault now that's it's been cleaned up, and I congratulate the guys there for making the changes.

    Wake up /., the big backlash is coming!

  106. musical tribute by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
    Hedy Lamarr: Geek girl, sex symbol.

    "If only I'd been born in Lily^H^H^H^HHedy's time, I would have been all right...."

    I also keep thinking of the song from Little Shop of Horrors: "Would you like a Cadilac car? / Or a guest shot on Jack Parr? / How's about a date with Hedy Lamarr? / You're gonna get it (if you want it, baby)."

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  107. Yeah, let's fix the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The strength of Slashdot is its incredible diversity of posters.

    Now it looks like we have a choice: we can get more people like Nitrozac, or we can get more "naked and petrified" people.

    I know which one has a hell of a lot more interesting things to say!

    It's not just the cretinous content of the posts:

    It's the drain on moderators. I'd rather moderate interesting articles up then spend all my points moderating garbage down every time I moderate. Especially when the garbage-spewers simply spew more and more garbage.

    It's the strain on readers. I enjoy being confronted by lunatic fringe opinions. But the garbage isn't someone with a lunatic fringe opinion -- it's someone who's expressly out to disrupt other people's conversations.

    So what to do? I think any solution has to tie posts to identity a bit stronger. I like being an AC most of the time, but I'm willing to be a pseudonymous coward if I have to -- and I'm willing to give up an e-mail address (and not some throwaway hotmail account) if that's what it takes.

    How about a new level of moderation: -2, garbage. When a poster accumulates several of these, their account gets disabled.

  108. off topic: "Bow down before the one you by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    ...we're gonna get what you deserve"

    "Huh?" paused Trent Reznor, puzzledly shuffling through his lyrics.
    ======================

    That's my depiction of the consequences of this unrelenting woman bashing crap. There are some geeks who are incredibly territorial about the computer profession and are really hostile to women. They usually don't have a girlfriend or any serious relationships with women (okay so I'm stereotyping, but I'd bet the farm on this one), and they get what they deserve.

    But then they make other geek women angry, defensive and suspicious, and then the rest of us wind up having to make up for these guys. Worse yet some women are driven away from the 'geek' lifestyle, or if they're into it, they don't jump in with the rest of us for fear of being savaged by some open source natalie portman troll, so the geek guys are stuck hanging with each other. So we wind up getting what those trolls deserve, too.

    However, there is a bigger picture involved here. Geek girls don't catch 1/100th as much shit as, say, a stay at home dad. I'll also throw in Hispanic Jews, african american linux users, asian country western singers, white rappers, and women soldiers, and if you know what I am talking about when I mention those things, you'll understand that the crap geek chicks get, is nothing new in a society where everyone is assigned implicit boundaries by race, religion and gender. Knowing this won't stop the open source natalie portman crap but at least you'll know what mentality the trolls are 'bowing down' to.

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    1. Re:off topic: "Bow down before the one you by Shadowcat · · Score: 1

      Oh, believe me, I'm familiar with the bigotry and hatred on more than one level. I am Wiccan, which therefore makes some fundamentalist Christians hate me. I'm also part Native American and attend many gatherings so I SEE that. I actually devote much of my time to FIGHTING the hate and anger plagueing much of society. You can look at my webpage for details :)

      And as for Natalie Portman, just seeing that name makes me want to lose my lunch :)
      -- Shadowcat

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      "I can roleplay. I can frag. I can PK while you lag."
    2. Re:off topic: "Bow down before the one you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe people don't like you because you're stupid.

  109. And she's not the only one by Royster · · Score: 2

    These posts sicken me. It is a deep seated hatred of women that represents them as immobile sexual objects. They are openly hostile to women.

    Just read Telsa Cox's diary page (and here)to see what she thinks about Slashdot.

    Naked and Petrified posts are ruining Slashdot.

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  110. blazing saddles by dotslasher2 · · Score: 1

    Hedley: Repeat after me... I Crowd: I Hedley: your name... Crowd: your name... Hedley: schmucks! and later... Hedley: go do, that voodoo, that you do!

  111. Solution proposal by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

    This is a two step proposal. One step is trival. The second takes a lot of work.

    1. Include a moderation, -1, naked and petrified post
    2. Allow people to screen out posts, or highlight posts, with certain moderations. Thus, if Nitrozac (who presumably posts at 2 by default) posts a "I want Linus Torvalds Naked and Petrified!!" and gets moderated down for a naked and petrified post, I wouldn't even see it if I was "bottom feeding" at a threshold of -1, if I didn't want to see a naked and petrified post. This would save considerable time and trouble for moderators, who would otherwise have to waste valuable moderation points moderating a "Naked and Petrified" post down to -2 (invisible). The downside is that "naked and petrified" posters wouldn't lose much karma...but hell, most of them post as AC's anyways, right?

    One possible abuse: moderators who disagree with someone's comments can abuse the "Naked and Petrified" option. Blip their comments are never seen again, until meta-moderation, and then the moderator loses only one karma point. I'm not sure how to fix this except to up the karma penalty for an unfair "Naked and Petrified" post to -5.


    TOYWAR!!
  112. -2, garbage by Tony-A · · Score: 1

    or -6, garbage (connotations of "deep six").
    Garbage. Most descriptive term I've seen yet.
    Not to be confused with "innocent" fun like mmept, first post, trolls, flame wars, etc.
    Probably do something like not losing moderator points but losing moderator status unless a 2/3 majority of metamoderators are in agreement.