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True. What was that Russian workers' saying?
"We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."
I could be making ten times what I do now, if I just go back to the US. But it's actually nice to live in a culture where people expect that you'll demand baksheesh before you do any work.:)
"Cheap, Good, or Fast. Normally, we tell you to pick any two, but we seem to be all out of Good and Fast today. You'll have to settle for Cheap."
Living in a country which had been under US colonial rule for the first half of this century, I'd say the US is to blame for a large part of what our gov't is today. What our culture is today, also.
We like US products. In fact, our poor people will prefer US brands over local, cheaper brands whenever they can afford it. Are we to blame? or is it the overwhelming pressure of advertising?
Of course, I'm not saying this was done on purpose, but the "colonial mentality" problem is a huge part of third world poverty. The best and the brightest of our youth want a green card.
Yes, we're happy with US products because we've been conditioned that way.
We've held elections. We've staged revolutions. Yes, it's been done before. No change. After we win, the US State Department moves in.
Though I don't agree with the "let 'em starve" philosophy, I don't agree with your "health care and welfare" too.
Throwing money at the poor isn't gonna help 'em any. To improve their lives, they need jobs. To get jobs they need skills. A few well placed skill development centers will do a whole lot more good than a lot of soup kitchens.
Free handouts don't encourage people to improve themselves - they can still survive, right? Giving 'em skills to get a job will both improve their lives, and more importantly, get them to pass these values on to their children. (i.e. hardworking parents tend to produce children who also see the value of work. Parents who sit around the house, living off welfare will produce children who see nothing wrong with living off handouts).
You sound pretty ok, at first. And no, it isn't part of a wider policy. It's something that the local PTA would dream up and push the police chief to implement.
It's the last paragraph that kinda sounds somewhat different.
> From the wealthy suburbs of middle-class America, people may take a dim look on restrictions on personal > freedom, but I am sure that the Phillipinos, given their relatively low level of income, can be convinced to throw part > of it in the balance.
Ok. So since we're poor, it's ok to give up some of our personal freedom, just to achieve "better living standards"?
No, thank you. That's been tried before. Hey, for all I know, it may work (in other Asian countries, even) but we Pinoys have been exposed too long to American ideology. You know, every individual's unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of pogi points.:)
>The point is that they are specifically targeting 'net cafe's and not truancy in general. So the kids can't browse the >net at 3 pm but they can go to the bowling alley?
Well, our town (in the Philippines) also has a similar ordinance for videogame arcades. I'd think this was just an extension of that ordinance.
Besides, what's the difference between 3 PM and 5 PM? Make 'em actually stay in school for two more hours.
>Wether or not they do is irrelevant. The important thing is that they can. Much like 18 year olds being able to vote in >the US although they have some of the worst turnouts.
All right - I'll admit that was a bit vague. I was trying to point out that Internet cafes are still too expensive for the "average" Pinoy child (who, last I looked, was still living below the poverty line). This will only affect the small fraction of Pinoy kids who can afford Net cafes.
Also - this is only targeted at elementary and High school students - 17 years old, maximum. Once you graduate high school, you're an adult. that's usually when you turn 17 or 18.
>How many of you live in that part of the world? That country? That city? Do you know the unique social conditions involved?
Well, I live in the same country, and there's an Internet cafe right next door, so I think I can add something to support your points.
>No? Then just suppose that the police are correct, and that the 'net cafes really are bad places for kids to be. With that supposition, I don't see >that this curfew necessarily has anything at all to do with the Internet and its "open liberal ways".
I haven't seen any drug dealers around, but the local pimps do hang out in this area. Right next to the police outpost, too.:)
That being said - most kids who can afford Internet cafes are the middle-class to lower-upper -class ones. This means cafes tend to spring up in "nice" neighborhoods, and only kids with money are found in them. Nice juicy targets for your local shabu dealer.
The curfew won't make any difference with the druggies - but it won't make much difference with 'Net freedom, too. Most activists here are well past high-school age (HS graduates are 16 or 17) and many universities are already on the Net.
Besides, for information, text-messaging has a wider reach here - text pagers are awfully cheap. More students have pagers than email addresses.
That being said, see the other posts here about this being a local ordinance, not a law.
>Because you are punishing and restricting one group of people for the actions of another. Instead of trying to catch the drug dealers, they kick >out all the kids.
Hello? they're kicking out the kids from 7AM to 5PM - school time. After school, they can stay all night if their parents let 'em.
>And I certainly hope that people will raise hell about it. Even if this is only one small town in the Philipines, other cities or the government might >impliment it if people don't stand up for themselves.
This isn't that different from preventing minors from entering videogame arcades during school hours. Come on, you're so afraid of the Man, everything must be a "liberty or death" issue with you people.
Only middle-class and upper-class kids can afford Internet cafes. Most people don't or can't use computers over here. Even if Internet news was censored, you'd be cutting off news to a small percentage of kids who aren't that interested in current affairs, anyway.
Be more concerned that the Philippine government is using strongarm tactics to push local papers to do its bidding. They're not backing down, but its gonna be close. Internet freedom is a non-issue right now - because the Internet reaches too few of our people to make a difference.
And besides, what does access to the Internet mean to a normal Pinoy kid? IRC and mtvasia.com. Hardly the liberating stuff you people seem to think we need.
Well, we usually count from when Marcos came to power (1964?) so it's twenty-plus years. He declared martial law instead of allowing his second 4-year term to expire ('cause he couldn't run for a third term, due to the then-existing Constitution).
He repealed the 1935 Constitution, wrote up a fresh one, and held power until 1986.
Can't remember some of the dates, cause it's hard to remember details when you're a little kid and your family is on the run...
Well, I don't think it applies here. We fought off a dictatorship 13 years ago, and the memories are still fresh. (I know mine are.:)
If you want proof, read the current headlines here. (Yeah, start with the Philippine Daily Inquirer, if you want). We know how to defend our press freedom, and if the media ever knuckles under, we still have other methods.
Hell, we've got lots of people who still remember how to fire an AK-47 around...
1) They can waste their time in school too. The Tagbilaran police merely inform your parents if kids are caught skipping school for IRC. Our schools are pretty liberal - most of their problems stem from lack of resources, not censorship.
2) Note that the curfew is from 7AM to 5PM. Whatever you do outside those hours is your concern. This means you can hit IRC after school and skip homework, *if your parents let you*.
3) We get plenty of politics and dangerous ideas in school. Press freedom is important here. (Witness the rallies and headlines here - we're currently fighting for our right to criticize the government...)
That being said - you're thinking of China, perhaps, or Singapore. Funny how all those Orientals all look alike, right?
This is an instance of a local police chief doing his job for a change... they round up kids who aren't in school, and turn 'em over to their parents.
"Police effort"? An small-city ordinance probably written by a cop who probably has a kid who does skip school for IRC is suddenly national policy?
Jeez. Cafes aren't being censored. Hell, they don't need to use to Internet to get all the porn they want - our movie industry turns out nothing but X-rated flicks. which any kid can rent at the corner video store. (besides, we've got better looking babes/hunks than you do. So there.:)
The situation here, halfway across the world from your comfortable country, isn't as dire as it seems.
> I smell sacred cow-burger because this involves the Internet.
True. I do too.
> Point the second: This is not entirely different from passing laws to keep your kid out of video arcades during the day.
They probably have one of those too. This is just an extension of the video arcade curfew ordinances, I think.
>Point the Fourth: The only way this law could be improved is to split the fine between the legal gaurdians (to keep the parents' responsibilities >uppermost in their minds) and the shopkeepers (to prevent them from enticing the kids with impunity.) That, and maybe apply the same fines (if >they are not already) to comic book shops, video arcades, movie theaters, and wherever else Philippine kids spent their truancy hours, these >days.
If it's like the videogame ordinances we have here, there isn't any fine. They just call up your parents and turn you over. (kids can't pay fines, they barely have enough for lunch money).
Filipino parents aren't like American parents. They generally are very strict with regards to education... getting all your kids through college is the dream of almost all Pinoy parents I know, no matter where they come from.
It was only Adam in that ship. When he got bored with playin' with himself, he got the autodoc to take out a rib and scrape some marrow so he could grow a clone (with the Y chromosome changed to X) - Eve.
Wasn't Fallout originally designed under the GURPS? I seem to recally Interplay having a falling-out (no pun intended) with Steve Jackson... which forced them to design the SPECIAL system for the current FO1 and FO2.
>Hmmm, I think there was a certain black man from a certain NY apartment who would love to be able to hear that... if he WASN'T SHOT >DEAD BY TRIGGER HAPPY, RACIST COPS!!! Oh, I'm sorry. Was I yelling? Please forgive me.
Our cops are just trigger-happy, but not racist. (They'll happily shoot up Peace Corps volunteers, too...) Is that better?:)
> I think if your broke, it don't matter where you are. You're gonna get fucked. > Rich Phillipinos(sp?)have it every bit as good as rich Americans. Or no??
Well, the richest Filipinos ARE Americans. They emigrate to the US. They lovingly refer to their native country as "that hellhole".
A daughter of a two-star general who went to my university got raped and killed some time ago. Among the richest people you can find in my hometown. (I went to grade school with her boyfriend, who was also tortured and killed in the same incident). Made the papers, 'cause they were rich, but if they were merely middle class, it would have gone unnoticed. (as my next-door neighbor did.)
Rich people here usually live in exclusive, heavily guarded walled subdivisions, under 24-hour guard. Kidnapping for ransom is a growing industry. (We rank behind Columbia as the kidnap capital of the world).
Before you protest "this is because of criminals, not cops" take note that most kidnap-for-ransom or other gangs are made up of cops (not ex-cops, they're still on active duty. Where do you think they get automatic weapons and grenade launchers?).
Me, I'm not that rich. (free university account - not so free, since I work my ass off to keep it). I take my chances. I keep low, I don't talk back to cops. There's also the regular bribes to keep up.
Believe me, lots of people here would sell their firstborn (some actually have) to move to NY....
And yes, I've lived in the USA. I know the difference.
>A person stated in an earlier reply that if you don't like the system of justice, then move. If you want to move, fine, then move. However, >Canada and the U.S. have two of the finest justice systems in the world. In some places, you are shot on site if you are even SUSPECTED >of committing a crime, never mind a "fair" trial and due process.
Indeed. You Americans complain too much. Try living over here, where as often as not, you'll end up "shot while attempting to escape". A few dozen times, with automatic weapons. Even if you were only picked up for jaywalking. (if you had the bad fortune to share a paddy-wagon with someone the cops didn't like...). And that was way back when the death penalty was still illegal over here.
And that's if you're lucky. If you're not, you get to experience police interrogation. Expect to kiss your testicles goodbye. Literally.
Hmm. I wonder if Mitnick ever did anything here? We do have an extradition treaty with the US.:)
Well, if all them "world domination" types and screaming fanatics would leave, then all the better.
I use Linux because it's useful. It's got some features that I need, features I can't get anywhere else (ipmasq, small footprint, etc). I use other OSes where I need 'em.
I actually started with the *BSDs - and still use 'em alongside my Linux boxes.
Then suddenly this horde of ex-Windows users and anti-MS terrorists come screaming over the hill, telling me I should run Red Hat, telling me to replace my desktop, telling me that anybody who still runs a 1.1.x kernel on a production system nowadays is crazy.
I still get sniggers from my local LUG whenever I mention I still use Slackware. Nope, not RH, not Debian, not SuSE. It ain't pretty, it doesn't have an IPO, but it works. And that's all I care about.
So would it be really a pain if all these annoying kids left?
My father was a starving poor person in a third world country. He lived to breed to produce people who now work in that third world country to help other starving poor people gain access to your purported "Information Revolution".
I'm not saying I'm all that great, but the effects of your OSS haven't been felt yet, except in the higher income brackets of society. Maybe next year.
so that would make Linus the Man of the Century NEXT century, not Man of this one. I haven't voted, but I'm not gonna vote for Torvalds, much as I think he's great. OSS is too late to move this century - but it might make a difference in the next.
> While the viral manipluation stuff might be some kind of breakthrough, unfortunately more people die of starvation and diarrhea than cancer so the problem this breakthrough is supposed to resolve will remain one of many - not all of which can be genetically manipulated and made to go away by big friendly multi-nationals with our best interests at heart.
Well, there are more rich cancer patients than there are rich starvation or diarrhea victims. You know the Golden Rule - he who holds the gold, makes the rules...
True. What was that Russian workers' saying?
:)
"We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."
I could be making ten times what I do now, if I just go back to the US. But it's actually nice to live in a culture where people expect that you'll demand baksheesh before you do any work.
"Cheap, Good, or Fast. Normally, we tell you to pick any two, but we seem to be all out of Good and Fast today. You'll have to settle for Cheap."
Living in a country which had been under US colonial rule for the first half of this century, I'd say the US is to blame for a large part of what our gov't is today. What our culture is today, also.
We like US products. In fact, our poor people will prefer US brands over local, cheaper brands whenever they can afford it. Are we to blame? or is it the overwhelming pressure of advertising?
Of course, I'm not saying this was done on purpose, but the "colonial mentality" problem is a huge part of third world poverty. The best and the brightest of our youth want a green card.
Yes, we're happy with US products because we've been conditioned that way.
We've held elections. We've staged revolutions. Yes, it's been done before. No change. After we win, the US State Department moves in.
Though I don't agree with the "let 'em starve" philosophy, I don't agree with your "health care and welfare" too.
Throwing money at the poor isn't gonna help 'em any. To improve their lives, they need jobs. To get jobs they need skills. A few well placed skill development centers will do a whole lot more good than a lot of soup kitchens.
Free handouts don't encourage people to improve themselves - they can still survive, right? Giving 'em skills to get a job will both improve their lives, and more importantly, get them to pass these values on to their children. (i.e. hardworking parents tend to produce children who also see the value of work. Parents who sit around the house, living off welfare will produce children who see nothing wrong with living off handouts).
Read it again. Real slow.
You'll get it. Eventually.
You sound pretty ok, at first. And no, it isn't part of a wider policy. It's something that the local PTA would dream up and push the police chief to implement.
:)
It's the last paragraph that kinda sounds somewhat different.
> From the wealthy suburbs of middle-class America, people may take a dim look on restrictions on personal
> freedom, but I am sure that the Phillipinos, given their relatively low level of income, can be convinced to throw part
> of it in the balance.
Ok. So since we're poor, it's ok to give up some of our personal freedom, just to achieve "better living standards"?
No, thank you. That's been tried before. Hey, for all I know, it may work (in other Asian countries, even) but we Pinoys have been exposed too long to American ideology. You know, every individual's unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of pogi points.
>The point is that they are specifically targeting 'net cafe's and not truancy in general. So the kids can't browse the
>net at 3 pm but they can go to the bowling alley?
Well, our town (in the Philippines) also has a similar ordinance for videogame arcades. I'd think this was just an extension of that ordinance.
Besides, what's the difference between 3 PM and 5 PM? Make 'em actually stay in school for two more hours.
>Wether or not they do is irrelevant. The important thing is that they can. Much like 18 year olds being able to vote in
>the US although they have some of the worst turnouts.
All right - I'll admit that was a bit vague. I was trying to point out that Internet cafes are still too expensive for the "average" Pinoy child (who, last I looked, was still living below the poverty line). This will only affect the small fraction of Pinoy kids who can afford Net cafes.
Also - this is only targeted at elementary and High school students - 17 years old, maximum. Once you graduate high school, you're an adult. that's usually when you turn 17 or 18.
>How many of you live in that part of the world? That country? That city? Do you know the unique social conditions involved?
:)
Well, I live in the same country, and there's an Internet cafe right next door, so I think I can add something to support your points.
>No? Then just suppose that the police are correct, and that the 'net cafes really are bad places for kids to be. With that supposition, I don't see
>that this curfew necessarily has anything at all to do with the Internet and its "open liberal ways".
I haven't seen any drug dealers around, but the local pimps do hang out in this area. Right next to the police outpost, too.
That being said - most kids who can afford Internet cafes are the middle-class to lower-upper -class ones. This means cafes tend to spring up in "nice" neighborhoods, and only kids with money are found in them. Nice juicy targets for your local shabu dealer.
The curfew won't make any difference with the druggies - but it won't make much difference with 'Net freedom, too. Most activists here are well past high-school age (HS graduates are 16 or 17) and many universities are already on the Net.
Besides, for information, text-messaging has a wider reach here - text pagers are awfully cheap.
More students have pagers than email addresses.
That being said, see the other posts here about this being a local ordinance, not a law.
>Because you are punishing and restricting one group of people for the actions of another. Instead of trying to catch the drug dealers, they kick
>out all the kids.
Hello? they're kicking out the kids from 7AM to 5PM - school time. After school, they can stay all night if their parents let 'em.
>And I certainly hope that people will raise hell about it. Even if this is only one small town in the Philipines, other cities or the government might
>impliment it if people don't stand up for themselves.
This isn't that different from preventing minors from entering videogame arcades during school hours. Come on, you're so afraid of the Man, everything must be a "liberty or death" issue with you people.
Only middle-class and upper-class kids can afford Internet cafes. Most people don't or can't use computers over here. Even if Internet news was censored, you'd be cutting off news to a small percentage of kids who aren't that interested in current affairs, anyway.
Be more concerned that the Philippine government is using strongarm tactics to push local papers to do its bidding. They're not backing down, but its gonna be close. Internet freedom is a non-issue right now - because the Internet reaches too few of our people to make a difference.
And besides, what does access to the Internet mean to a normal Pinoy kid? IRC and mtvasia.com. Hardly the liberating stuff you people seem to think we need.
Well, we usually count from when Marcos came to power (1964?) so it's twenty-plus years. He declared martial law instead of allowing his second 4-year term to expire ('cause he couldn't run for a third term, due to the then-existing Constitution).
He repealed the 1935 Constitution, wrote up a fresh one, and held power until 1986.
Can't remember some of the dates, cause it's hard to remember details when you're a little kid and your family is on the run...
Well, I don't think it applies here. We fought off a dictatorship 13 years ago, and the memories are still fresh. (I know mine are.
If you want proof, read the current headlines here. (Yeah, start with the Philippine Daily Inquirer, if you want). We know how to defend our press freedom, and if the media ever knuckles under, we still have other methods.
Hell, we've got lots of people who still remember how to fire an AK-47 around...
Ok - you did admit you have never been here.
1) They can waste their time in school too. The Tagbilaran police merely inform your parents if kids are caught skipping school for IRC. Our schools are pretty liberal - most of their problems stem from lack of resources, not censorship.
2) Note that the curfew is from 7AM to 5PM. Whatever you do outside those hours is your concern. This means you can hit IRC after school and skip homework, *if your parents let you*.
3) We get plenty of politics and dangerous ideas in school. Press freedom is important here. (Witness the rallies and headlines here - we're currently fighting for our right to criticize the government...)
That being said - you're thinking of China, perhaps, or Singapore. Funny how all those Orientals all look alike, right?
Did you actually read the article?
This is an instance of a local police chief doing his job for a change... they round up kids who aren't in school, and turn 'em over to their parents.
"Police effort"? An small-city ordinance probably written by a cop who probably has a kid who does skip school for IRC is suddenly national policy?
Jeez. Cafes aren't being censored. Hell, they don't need to use to Internet to get all the porn they want - our movie industry turns out nothing but X-rated flicks. which any kid can rent at the corner video store. (besides, we've got better looking babes/hunks than you do. So there.
The situation here, halfway across the world from your comfortable country, isn't as dire as it seems.
> I smell sacred cow-burger because this involves the Internet.
True. I do too.
> Point the second: This is not entirely different from passing laws to keep your kid out of video arcades during the day.
They probably have one of those too. This is just an extension of the video arcade curfew ordinances, I think.
>Point the Fourth: The only way this law could be improved is to split the fine between the legal gaurdians (to keep the parents' responsibilities
>uppermost in their minds) and the shopkeepers (to prevent them from enticing the kids with impunity.) That, and maybe apply the same fines (if
>they are not already) to comic book shops, video arcades, movie theaters, and wherever else Philippine kids spent their truancy hours, these
>days.
If it's like the videogame ordinances we have here, there isn't any fine. They just call up your parents and turn you over. (kids can't pay fines, they barely have enough for lunch money).
Filipino parents aren't like American parents. They generally are very strict with regards to education... getting all your kids through college is the dream of almost all Pinoy parents I know, no matter where they come from.
It was only Adam in that ship. When he got bored with playin' with himself, he got the autodoc to take out a rib and scrape some marrow so he could grow a clone (with the Y chromosome changed to X) - Eve.
What are the chances of Bioware/Interplay teaming up with Bullfrog to come up with AD&D vs. Dungeon Keeper?
mmm... getting your army of goblins to drop your best friend's paladin onto your favourite torture rack...
Wasn't Fallout originally designed under the GURPS? I seem to recally Interplay having a falling-out (no pun intended) with Steve Jackson... which forced them to design the SPECIAL system for the current FO1 and FO2.
>Hmmm, I think there was a certain black man from a certain NY apartment who would love to be able to hear that... if he WASN'T SHOT
:)
:)
>DEAD BY TRIGGER HAPPY, RACIST COPS!!! Oh, I'm sorry. Was I yelling? Please forgive me.
Our cops are just trigger-happy, but not racist. (They'll happily shoot up Peace Corps volunteers, too...)
Is that better?
> I think if your broke, it don't matter where you are. You're gonna get fucked.
> Rich Phillipinos(sp?)have it every bit as good as rich Americans. Or no??
Well, the richest Filipinos ARE Americans. They emigrate to the US. They lovingly refer to their native country as "that hellhole".
A daughter of a two-star general who went to my university got raped and killed some time ago. Among the richest people you can find in my hometown. (I went to grade school with her boyfriend, who was also tortured and killed in the same incident). Made the papers, 'cause they were rich, but if they were merely middle class, it would have gone unnoticed. (as my next-door neighbor did.)
Rich people here usually live in exclusive, heavily guarded walled subdivisions, under 24-hour guard. Kidnapping for ransom is a growing industry. (We rank behind Columbia as the kidnap capital of the world).
Before you protest "this is because of criminals, not cops" take note that most kidnap-for-ransom or other gangs are made up of cops (not ex-cops, they're still on active duty. Where do you think they get automatic weapons and grenade launchers?).
Me, I'm not that rich. (free university account - not so free, since I work my ass off to keep it). I take my chances. I keep low, I don't talk back to cops. There's also the regular bribes to keep up.
Believe me, lots of people here would sell their firstborn (some actually have) to move to NY....
And yes, I've lived in the USA. I know the difference.
Okay. This is getting amazingly off-topic.
>Just for the record, where exactly is "over here"?
Philippines - but this should apply to any third world country. Specially those with governments supported by your CIA/State Department...
>A person stated in an earlier reply that if you don't like the system of justice, then move. If you want to move, fine, then move. However,
:)
>Canada and the U.S. have two of the finest justice systems in the world. In some places, you are shot on site if you are even SUSPECTED >of committing a crime, never mind a "fair" trial and due process.
Indeed. You Americans complain too much. Try living over here, where as often as not, you'll end up "shot while attempting to escape". A few dozen times, with automatic weapons. Even if you were only picked up for jaywalking. (if you had the bad fortune to share a paddy-wagon with someone the cops didn't like...). And that was way back when the death penalty was still illegal over here.
And that's if you're lucky. If you're not, you get to experience police interrogation. Expect to kiss your testicles goodbye. Literally.
Hmm. I wonder if Mitnick ever did anything here? We do have an extradition treaty with the US.
Well, if all them "world domination" types and screaming fanatics would leave, then all the better.
I use Linux because it's useful. It's got some features that I need, features I can't get anywhere else (ipmasq, small footprint, etc).
I use other OSes where I need 'em.
I actually started with the *BSDs - and still use 'em alongside my Linux boxes.
Then suddenly this horde of ex-Windows users and anti-MS terrorists come screaming over the hill, telling me I should run Red Hat, telling me to replace my desktop, telling me that anybody who still runs a 1.1.x kernel on a production system nowadays is crazy.
I still get sniggers from my local LUG whenever I mention I still use Slackware. Nope, not RH, not Debian, not SuSE. It ain't pretty, it doesn't have an IPO, but it works. And that's all I care about.
So would it be really a pain if all these annoying kids left?
My father was a starving poor person in a third world country. He lived to breed to produce people who now work in that third world country to help other starving poor people gain access to your purported "Information Revolution".
I'm not saying I'm all that great, but the effects of your OSS haven't been felt yet, except in the higher income brackets of society. Maybe next year.
so that would make Linus the Man of the Century NEXT century, not Man of this one. I haven't voted, but I'm not gonna vote for Torvalds, much as I think he's great. OSS is too late to move this century - but it might make a difference in the next.
Might - or we may blow ourselves all up anyway.
> While the viral manipluation stuff might be some kind of breakthrough, unfortunately more people die of starvation and diarrhea than cancer so the problem this breakthrough is supposed to resolve will remain one of many - not all of which can be genetically manipulated and made to go away by big friendly multi-nationals with our best interests at heart.
Well, there are more rich cancer patients than there are rich starvation or diarrhea victims. You know the Golden Rule - he who holds the gold, makes the rules...