"I can name precisely one ISP in the UK that I know offers IPv6 connectivity"
Would you mind letting us know who that might be?
I'm considering moving ISP and want one where I can have a static IP address; looking to the future it seems to me that it's worth having IPv6 support now rather than a second upheaval in a few years time
I completely agree with the idea (and can even claim earlier art in an essay I wrote when still at school [MANY years ago] on reducing traffic accidents).
I swear that my local council is an underground* anarchist cell**.
If I wanted to cause traffic jams and major disruption I would be hard pushed to do better than the current scheduling of concurrent major roadworks on the three main roads through/out of the town - and, tight fisted and risk averse as I am, I'd be willing to bet that within twelve months of a new surface being laid they'd be dug up again.
On a related theme, a few years back there were supposed to be incentives for the utility companies to coordinate work (eg if the road were dug up for gas repairs, then making changes to water or other pipes nearby at the same time would be encouraged) but I guess the benefits of going it alone were greater for the utilities than reduced costs of road closure/restriction permits.
*pun unintentional - but appropriate:-)
** or full of old grumps who are just getting their revenge for all the times they've been forced to queue in the past
For non UK readers.... there's an election coming up.
This time there's a chance it will go beyond a two horse race (whether or not that's a good thing given the parties involved is down to personal opinion).
The major parties want to look for something to differentiate themselves and will jump on any bandwagon going to appease the more rabid elements of the press. Manufacturing a major scare and then swooping in like a superhero to fix it is just custom & practice.
I fully expect this to evaporate like most politicians' promises do within 48 hours of the results being posted. It will go from a mandate to a target then a goal then an aspiration just as fast as any other promise.
Bigger issues (like rewarding friends and slagging off the opposition) will rule the day.
I can make this prediction whichever party/parties come into power
Don't worry about how this would work in practice, technical [in]feasibilities, government/parent roles & responsibilities... they'll become irrelevant sideshows soon enough.
I can think of a few modern large buildings in the UK with linked duck ponds with ducks, water lillies, fountains etc. in landscaped grounds. They look attractive and it's only when you stop and really look you realise their main functionis a moden day moat.
Indeed apart from protection, the visual amenity is worthwhile (relatively low cost to provide a place to feast your eyes at lunchtime) and they also offer the potential for a heat sink for cooling.
Just make sure you keep a view on expenses though (see parliamentary expenses scandal a few years back - Douglas Hogg claiming moat cleaning on his family's ancestral home or Peter Viggers claiming for a duck house)
This would open the door to even more unsolicited calls from "Microsoft Windows" telling you that you have a problem and offering to supply a fix. Just a minor change to the script 'virus' now becomes 'botnet' and away they go again
This scam is gradually dying off (in the UK at least -- I almost mis the opportunity to prolong the conversation and annoy the scammers) but I can well foresee it wakening up gain if ISPs were charged with telling their customers that they have a problem.
It's a nice idea in principle but there are so many potential issues with it (botnet activity on a NAT'd IP condemning multiple users, IP address changing and need to keep up with who is blocked and how/whether to carry the block on next connection....).
Basically we haven't had a ruling government that's had a majority vote for years (not in my lifetime at least). MPs [are supposed to] represent constituencies which are drawn up to be roughly equal in population. What happens is that each party, when in power, 'corrects for population shifts' and re-draws boundaries to concentrate supporters into a few areas and spread the opposition over multiple areas.
This is why 'minority' parties can get a sizeable chunk of the vote but few (if any) seats in parliament - their support is diluted across wide areas.
The net effect is that the outcome is largely governed by a few marginal constiuencies (wher the balance is closer) who have a disproportionate effect on the outcome. A majority of just 1 vote in these places will (under first past the post system) make a huge difference; where I live, they gould put up a gorilla for election and it would win if it had the right coloured rosette!!
This benefits the two main parties who thus have no interest in electoral reform or proportional representation.
Couple this with the fact that you have to vote for a person 9effectively a party) rather than an issue, and that all the parties are converging so there's little to differentiate them, it's no wonder voter apathy has kicked in and turnouts are low.
So, no, please don't blame all of us for the actions of a few.
I'm not making any accusations or implications here but consider:
There's an election coming up. Both main and most of the other partie know that being 'tough on crime' sells well to the public
The two sources are both right wing biased publications. I hesitate to call the Daily Mail a newspaper - that would be dignifying it. It has the aim of at least one story to make people scared and/or angry every day. It wouldn't hesitate in calling anyone who disagreed with this a 'lefty do-gooder' (which is amusing given the political stance of many Americans here who are objecting to the scheme:-) )
There's been a reduction in police budgets - this may be a warning shot to all parties when it comes to manifestos etc
Even if this went ahead, it would be up to the individual to fit, maintain, monitor and use the camera, so (exhibitionists apart) I doubt people would be undressing or having sex in front of a camera they have installed themselves.
What would be interesting is just how this would work in practice with the multiplicity of standards, formats... for data recording.
And that's not considering legal aspects (what are the rules on data used for evidence? on data protection? consent for recording? tamper proofing?....)
Given the inertia of the Great British Public, I don't see this happening soon
But don't let that stop a new trope forming about how we're the most observed group on the planet:-) after all if the "analysis" of looking at one street, counting the cameras and then extrapolating everywhere has caught on and become a meme, why not this?
Actions taken in one country should abide by the laws of that country, not any other country - even if it affects the other country.
So..... If you are in country A fire a rifle across a border and kill someone in country B then according to your approach country B should not be able to try you for murder (either by extradition or in absentia)?
I agree that this case seems extreme - though I'm not sure of the wisdom of the person's actions - but to extrapolate from a specific case to a universal principle seems dangerous to me
Slightly off topic
Similarly, when I am in the US, I should abide by the US laws, not any other countries.
I admire your approach -- it's just a shame some well known US corporations don't think that way when they operate in other countries
What may not be apparent to others is that the UK system of parliamentary 'seats' and first past the post ballots can lead to situations like this.
A party gets into power. They then get the boundaries commission to look at population densities and 'correct anomalies' so that each set has roughly the same number of voters [this is their job]. Of course what they actually do is to ring-fence areas where there is a great deal of support for them and spread areas with largely opposition support amongst many seats to dilute their effectiveness.
This leads to the concept of "safe seats" (where you could safely bet on an outcome because people would vote for a monkey if it had the right coloured rosette). In reality UK politics is decided by a relatively small number of 'marginal seats' where the outcome is less predictable.
What this means in practice is that the majority party in parliament rarely (almost never) has a majority of the popular vote (typically only around 35%). They are 'first past the post' in more seats but fewer supporting voters overall. It also means party officials can reward people with safe seats for following directions.
Two take away points:
1) Don't judge the British on the basis of the politicians we've got -- we are not all so inept/clueless
2) Even by the standards of most MPs this guy is seriously out of step with reality. He is in a party that would like to dismantle the NHS and farm it out to their chums in private medicine so it's no surprise he's on a committee that could cause sabotage.
Originally tit for tat was a stylised way (ie slang) for saying "this for that". (Interestingly "titfer" became rhyming slang for a hat).
The word 'tat' is also used colloquially in the UK to describe something of poor quality (I believe it came from something falling to tatters). Something described as 'cheap tat' is usually near to wothless / meretricious rubbish.
How well this applies to mobile operating systems is left to the reader to decide:-)
If you believe a London Underground train could get to 120mph, I've got a nice set of title deeds to the Houses of Parliament I can sell you at a very reasonable price:-)
This isn't a new thing - it's been done before...
I was working in Copenhagen about 8 years ago and the metro there was driverless; the London Docklands Light Railway (DLR) has been driverless for years.
One thing that's been conspicuous by its absence in all discussions is nationality. Will the Scots get their own passports? and how will they be allocated? By residence - how to handle ex-pat Scots in England and English in Scotland? How to establish the foundations for applying for nationality? Rescinding of UK citizenship when becoming a Scot?
Then how will Scotland pay for and staff up embassies around the world? they surely wouldn't want to use the existing ones would they? after all they are escaping from us - to want to ride on our backs would be hypocritical in the extreme.
If they do split and things go well for them - that's great; if things go badly and the evil English aren't available, who are they going to take the blame?
As I said - there's been a deafening silence over this.
First of I am not a lawyer - but I can read Wikipedia:-)
So when we get to "we've detected a problem with your computer" I ask "how?" and get a stream of babble about seeing data which looks like a virus.
Then I ask innocently -- "so you can look at my traffic?" "oh yes and you definitely have a virus - we can see from how your PC is behaving" "so you can look at my PC?" "Oh yes"
I always ask - "are you sure about this?" to allow them to dig themselves even deeper into a hole and then ask for their name/company name (claiming I misheard at the start).
At this point I inform them that either (a) they are probably committing offences under one or more of Computer Misuse Act 1990, Data Protection Act 1998 or Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 -- or (b) if they want to own up (and I do know that they are lying because I'm not running Windows and my firewall is pretty tight) that attempting to obtain money through false pretences is an offence under the Fraud Act 2006.
"Which one do you want to choose?"
They usually hang up at this point having spent around 15 minutes with me when they could have been hitting another victim -- though one did ring back and shout abuse.
I went into my bank recently and got the hard sell about switching to internet banking.
This is something I've resisted, but I was told it was "quite safe" and "millions of people do it".
They had a so-called free cash-back offer on the debit card. I looked at the sign-up process and was told by the counter staff it needed a password of 6-8 characters - case insensitive and letters/numbers only.
For some reason they were surprised when I informed them that this was incredibly weak password scheme and that I wanted nothing to do with it.
Needless to say, I'm still refusing to sign up for any internet based banking and automated money transfers.
"People should have to work....." many of them DO.
A large proportion (possibly the majority - I don't have the stats to hand -- of those claiming benefits are in work but in low paid jobs.
Someone on minimum wage (or just over) cannot afford to live in large parts of the country. I know of a head chef who works 60 - 70 hours a week yet has no prospect of affording to rent [let alone buy] a small flat where I live -- and that even without food, heating, lighting..... Before we get the "free market will fix this, go and live elsewhere" arguments, without people doing jobs such as cleaning, catering... society would collapse.
Effectively the benefits system is subsidising those employers who pay low wages. However this argument is drowned out in the "reckless, lazy wilfully unemployed" messages put out (especially by some newspapers who could give lessons in propaganda techniques).
Voter apathy is at an all time high in the UK. This can be read in many ways ('they are all the same', 'a pox on both your houses', 'they only care about getting re-elected and their cronies - not about us'...) but the net result of a lack of political party output would probably be welcomed by all sides:
for the people at large, it's a pause from hearing someone spouting forth about how they'll promise a wonderful future [right up until 24 hours after the results are declared when promises spontaneously evaporate]
for the politicians, less kept on public accessible records the better - they can then bury history and past broken promises [as the Tories did in taking their past web history off-line recently] - al less well informed populace is easier to bamboozle and less likely to think critically
for the news media [who are pushing for this -- those most vocal are also those who delight in publishing the very stuff they'd like to see banned] it's less competition for eyeballs
If this seems cynical - it probably is: there is precious little to choose between the parties nowadays. After the expenses scandal (thankfully we don't have quite the scale of campaign contribution corruption over here [yet]) politicians in general are not highly regarded by many and a period of quiet while some other group gets bad publicity would be welcomed by them -- is this the hidden agenda behind this?;-)
I know I'm never likely to do it but as a thought experiment...
Install a small photocell linked to a servo motor (via an Arduino/Raspberry Pi if you want to get into fine tuning).
Have the servo flip a mirror (nothing fancy, just plain glass -- could be coloured red for the rear facing one) which is sited by the windscreen and back window. Think of a SLR camera mechanism but larger.
Then when the antisocial idiot doesn't dip head lights (oncoming) or tailgates on full beam (behind) the mirror would flip up and give 'instant feedback' * allowing them to modify their behaviour.
The simpler implementation of a hinge on the dash/parcel shelf plus mirror plus piece of string to pull would be too obvious if stopped by police or your vehicle was examined after an accident.
* OK I know it's not truly instant, but close enough when considering human perception/reaction times
There is a huge gap between being identified as "Joe Klovance" and "middle aged white male"... yes... right up until they tie in the date/time on the video with the swiping of your loyalty and/or credit card at the till. And glasses, masks... won't be much help there.
Besides which, isn't it a bit presumptious, not to say patronising, to think that all people of a given age/gender/ethnicity will like a specific set of products? If we were that predictable why bother with adverts in the first place? -- just give the checkout staff an upsell cheatsheet.
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"I can name precisely one ISP in the UK that I know offers IPv6 connectivity"
Would you mind letting us know who that might be?
I'm considering moving ISP and want one where I can have a static IP address; looking to the future it seems to me that it's worth having IPv6 support now rather than a second upheaval in a few years time
Sadly stupidity is not confined to any party.
Where I live you could get a gorilla elected if it had a blue rosette.
leave it to a government arm such as Royal Mail.
Except that Royal Mail was given away to chums in the city recently in a botched privatisation.
Where's the fun in that?
I completely agree with the idea (and can even claim earlier art in an essay I wrote when still at school [MANY years ago] on reducing traffic accidents).
I swear that my local council is an underground* anarchist cell**.
If I wanted to cause traffic jams and major disruption I would be hard pushed to do better than the current scheduling of concurrent major roadworks on the three main roads through/out of the town - and, tight fisted and risk averse as I am, I'd be willing to bet that within twelve months of a new surface being laid they'd be dug up again.
On a related theme, a few years back there were supposed to be incentives for the utility companies to coordinate work (eg if the road were dug up for gas repairs, then making changes to water or other pipes nearby at the same time would be encouraged) but I guess the benefits of going it alone were greater for the utilities than reduced costs of road closure/restriction permits.
*pun unintentional - but appropriate :-)
** or full of old grumps who are just getting their revenge for all the times they've been forced to queue in the past
For non UK readers.... there's an election coming up.
This time there's a chance it will go beyond a two horse race (whether or not that's a good thing given the parties involved is down to personal opinion).
The major parties want to look for something to differentiate themselves and will jump on any bandwagon going to appease the more rabid elements of the press. Manufacturing a major scare and then swooping in like a superhero to fix it is just custom & practice.
I fully expect this to evaporate like most politicians' promises do within 48 hours of the results being posted. It will go from a mandate to a target then a goal then an aspiration just as fast as any other promise.
Bigger issues (like rewarding friends and slagging off the opposition) will rule the day.
I can make this prediction whichever party/parties come into power
Don't worry about how this would work in practice, technical [in]feasibilities, government/parent roles & responsibilities... they'll become irrelevant sideshows soon enough.
Cynical? me ?
Agreed.
I can think of a few modern large buildings in the UK with linked duck ponds with ducks, water lillies, fountains etc. in landscaped grounds. They look attractive and it's only when you stop and really look you realise their main functionis a moden day moat.
Indeed apart from protection, the visual amenity is worthwhile (relatively low cost to provide a place to feast your eyes at lunchtime) and they also offer the potential for a heat sink for cooling.
Just make sure you keep a view on expenses though (see parliamentary expenses scandal a few years back - Douglas Hogg claiming moat cleaning on his family's ancestral home or Peter Viggers claiming for a duck house)
Oh great!
This would open the door to even more unsolicited calls from "Microsoft Windows" telling you that you have a problem and offering to supply a fix. Just a minor change to the script 'virus' now becomes 'botnet' and away they go again
This scam is gradually dying off (in the UK at least -- I almost mis the opportunity to prolong the conversation and annoy the scammers) but I can well foresee it wakening up gain if ISPs were charged with telling their customers that they have a problem.
It's a nice idea in principle but there are so many potential issues with it (botnet activity on a NAT'd IP condemning multiple users, IP address changing and need to keep up with who is blocked and how/whether to carry the block on next connection ....).
You don't understand our voting system.
Basically we haven't had a ruling government that's had a majority vote for years (not in my lifetime at least). MPs [are supposed to] represent constituencies which are drawn up to be roughly equal in population. What happens is that each party, when in power, 'corrects for population shifts' and re-draws boundaries to concentrate supporters into a few areas and spread the opposition over multiple areas.
This is why 'minority' parties can get a sizeable chunk of the vote but few (if any) seats in parliament - their support is diluted across wide areas.
The net effect is that the outcome is largely governed by a few marginal constiuencies (wher the balance is closer) who have a disproportionate effect on the outcome. A majority of just 1 vote in these places will (under first past the post system) make a huge difference; where I live, they gould put up a gorilla for election and it would win if it had the right coloured rosette!!
This benefits the two main parties who thus have no interest in electoral reform or proportional representation.
Couple this with the fact that you have to vote for a person 9effectively a party) rather than an issue, and that all the parties are converging so there's little to differentiate them, it's no wonder voter apathy has kicked in and turnouts are low.
So, no, please don't blame all of us for the actions of a few.
Crime rates are falling here too.
I'm not making any accusations or implications here but consider:
I hesitate to call the Daily Mail a newspaper - that would be dignifying it. It has the aim of at least one story to make people scared and/or angry every day. It wouldn't hesitate in calling anyone who disagreed with this a 'lefty do-gooder' (which is amusing given the political stance of many Americans here who are objecting to the scheme
Even if this went ahead, it would be up to the individual to fit, maintain, monitor and use the camera, so (exhibitionists apart) I doubt people would be undressing or having sex in front of a camera they have installed themselves.
What would be interesting is just how this would work in practice with the multiplicity of standards, formats... for data recording. ....)
And that's not considering legal aspects (what are the rules on data used for evidence? on data protection? consent for recording? tamper proofing?
Given the inertia of the Great British Public, I don't see this happening soon But don't let that stop a new trope forming about how we're the most observed group on the planet :-) after all if the "analysis" of looking at one street, counting the cameras and then extrapolating everywhere has caught on and become a meme, why not this?
So..... If you are in country A fire a rifle across a border and kill someone in country B then according to your approach country B should not be able to try you for murder (either by extradition or in absentia)?
I agree that this case seems extreme - though I'm not sure of the wisdom of the person's actions - but to extrapolate from a specific case to a universal principle seems dangerous to me
Slightly off topic
I admire your approach -- it's just a shame some well known US corporations don't think that way when they operate in other countries
What may not be apparent to others is that the UK system of parliamentary 'seats' and first past the post ballots can lead to situations like this.
A party gets into power. They then get the boundaries commission to look at population densities and 'correct anomalies' so that each set has roughly the same number of voters [this is their job]. Of course what they actually do is to ring-fence areas where there is a great deal of support for them and spread areas with largely opposition support amongst many seats to dilute their effectiveness.
This leads to the concept of "safe seats" (where you could safely bet on an outcome because people would vote for a monkey if it had the right coloured rosette). In reality UK politics is decided by a relatively small number of 'marginal seats' where the outcome is less predictable.
What this means in practice is that the majority party in parliament rarely (almost never) has a majority of the popular vote (typically only around 35%). They are 'first past the post' in more seats but fewer supporting voters overall. It also means party officials can reward people with safe seats for following directions.
Two take away points:
1) Don't judge the British on the basis of the politicians we've got -- we are not all so inept/clueless
2) Even by the standards of most MPs this guy is seriously out of step with reality. He is in a party that would like to dismantle the NHS and farm it out to their chums in private medicine so it's no surprise he's on a committee that could cause sabotage.
Well said
I'd like to mod you as both Insightful and Funny
you mean use anthropomorphism to make computers seem like politicians / journalists / managers ...
Originally tit for tat was a stylised way (ie slang) for saying "this for that". (Interestingly "titfer" became rhyming slang for a hat).
The word 'tat' is also used colloquially in the UK to describe something of poor quality (I believe it came from something falling to tatters). Something described as 'cheap tat' is usually near to wothless / meretricious rubbish.
How well this applies to mobile operating systems is left to the reader to decide :-)
If you believe a London Underground train could get to 120mph, I've got a nice set of title deeds to the Houses of Parliament I can sell you at a very reasonable price :-)
This isn't a new thing - it's been done before...
I was working in Copenhagen about 8 years ago and the metro there was driverless; the London Docklands Light Railway (DLR) has been driverless for years.
One thing that's been conspicuous by its absence in all discussions is nationality. Will the Scots get their own passports? and how will they be allocated? By residence - how to handle ex-pat Scots in England and English in Scotland? How to establish the foundations for applying for nationality? Rescinding of UK citizenship when becoming a Scot?
Then how will Scotland pay for and staff up embassies around the world? they surely wouldn't want to use the existing ones would they? after all they are escaping from us - to want to ride on our backs would be hypocritical in the extreme.
If they do split and things go well for them - that's great; if things go badly and the evil English aren't available, who are they going to take the blame?
As I said - there's been a deafening silence over this.
I've had a similar experience - many times.
First of I am not a lawyer - but I can read Wikipedia :-)
So when we get to "we've detected a problem with your computer" I ask "how?" and get a stream of babble about seeing data which looks like a virus.
Then I ask innocently -- "so you can look at my traffic?" "oh yes and you definitely have a virus - we can see from how your PC is behaving" "so you can look at my PC?" "Oh yes"
I always ask - "are you sure about this?" to allow them to dig themselves even deeper into a hole and then ask for their name/company name (claiming I misheard at the start).
At this point I inform them that either (a) they are probably committing offences under one or more of Computer Misuse Act 1990, Data Protection Act 1998 or Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 -- or (b) if they want to own up (and I do know that they are lying because I'm not running Windows and my firewall is pretty tight) that attempting to obtain money through false pretences is an offence under the Fraud Act 2006.
"Which one do you want to choose?"
They usually hang up at this point having spent around 15 minutes with me when they could have been hitting another victim -- though one did ring back and shout abuse.
I suspect it's on the other side of the paper containing the list of patents Microsoft is claiming Android violates.
I went into my bank recently and got the hard sell about switching to internet banking.
This is something I've resisted, but I was told it was "quite safe" and "millions of people do it".
They had a so-called free cash-back offer on the debit card. I looked at the sign-up process and was told by the counter staff it needed a password of 6-8 characters - case insensitive and letters/numbers only.
For some reason they were surprised when I informed them that this was incredibly weak password scheme and that I wanted nothing to do with it.
Needless to say, I'm still refusing to sign up for any internet based banking and automated money transfers.
It's because British beer [ie bitter, stout, ale] has some flavour.
Drinking liquids ice cold reduces your sense of taste so you don't realise it's just yellow water.
"People should have to work....." many of them DO.
A large proportion (possibly the majority - I don't have the stats to hand -- of those claiming benefits are in work but in low paid jobs.
Someone on minimum wage (or just over) cannot afford to live in large parts of the country. I know of a head chef who works 60 - 70 hours a week yet has no prospect of affording to rent [let alone buy] a small flat where I live -- and that even without food, heating, lighting..... Before we get the "free market will fix this, go and live elsewhere" arguments, without people doing jobs such as cleaning, catering... society would collapse.
Effectively the benefits system is subsidising those employers who pay low wages. However this argument is drowned out in the "reckless, lazy wilfully unemployed" messages put out (especially by some newspapers who could give lessons in propaganda techniques).
Voter apathy is at an all time high in the UK. This can be read in many ways ('they are all the same', 'a pox on both your houses', 'they only care about getting re-elected and their cronies - not about us'...) but the net result of a lack of political party output would probably be welcomed by all sides:
If this seems cynical - it probably is: there is precious little to choose between the parties nowadays. After the expenses scandal (thankfully we don't have quite the scale of campaign contribution corruption over here [yet]) politicians in general are not highly regarded by many and a period of quiet while some other group gets bad publicity would be welcomed by them -- is this the hidden agenda behind this? ;-)
I know I'm never likely to do it but as a thought experiment...
Install a small photocell linked to a servo motor (via an Arduino/Raspberry Pi if you want to get into fine tuning).
Have the servo flip a mirror (nothing fancy, just plain glass -- could be coloured red for the rear facing one) which is sited by the windscreen and back window. Think of a SLR camera mechanism but larger.
Then when the antisocial idiot doesn't dip head lights (oncoming) or tailgates on full beam (behind) the mirror would flip up and give 'instant feedback' * allowing them to modify their behaviour.
The simpler implementation of a hinge on the dash/parcel shelf plus mirror plus piece of string to pull would be too obvious if stopped by police or your vehicle was examined after an accident.
* OK I know it's not truly instant, but close enough when considering human perception/reaction times
What about the phone sanitisers?
(http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Golgafrincham)
There is a huge gap between being identified as "Joe Klovance" and "middle aged white male"... yes ... right up until they tie in the date/time on the video with the swiping of your loyalty and/or credit card at the till. And glasses, masks... won't be much help there.
Besides which, isn't it a bit presumptious, not to say patronising, to think that all people of a given age/gender/ethnicity will like a specific set of products? If we were that predictable why bother with adverts in the first place? -- just give the checkout staff an upsell cheatsheet.