What I've wanted to know is will GTK2 work with Tiger. I'm not really expecting to hear a yes, but it would be nice to know. Silence is probably the best info I'm going to get, though.
I don't see why it wouldn't at least work in the X11 subsystem.
Actually, I'm guessing the reason Apple went with BSD was the existing BSD code already in OpenStep when they decided to base their next-generation OS on it.
I think the parent was saying the program utilises a higher percentage of the cpu, but runs quicker. For example, say the program takes up 15% cpu and runs for 5 minutes without optimizations. Maybe with optimizations, it takes up 20% cpu and runs for 3 minutes. I'm not the OP though, so maybe I misunderstood what he meant:)
The members of the press invited to the WinHEC conference did agree to some sort of EULA, though Paul mentions he didn't see it in any of the material he received. He even states had he seen it, it might've affected his decision to go to WinHEC, which is pretty surprising, considering what an MS shill Paul is.
With a GPL-compatible license, if Solaris got to be better than Linux, virtually no one would think twice about switching from Debian GNU/Linux to Debian GNU/Solaris.
Big IF. I think many would argue Solaris is already better than Linux. But, for argument's sake, let's say its not better than Linux. If it became better, I'd happily switch, regardless of license.
What do I know though? I use Mac OS X, FreeBSD and Windows.
Here's the obligatory rebuttal. You're forgetting the software. You can put Linux on it for free, but you're not getting nearly the user experience you get with a Mac.
OP was discussing the "Mac experience" - it made sense to assume replies would also be referring to that. And to add the same suite of applications included with the Mac would bring the cost well over $450.
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Dell sells $299 all-inclusive systems with Windows and WordPerfect included. Try again.
Does that include DVD mastering software? Movie editing software? A music creation program? When people talk about the Mac experience, they're not talking about word processing.
Actually, you can find the installers all over the web if you look. I usually grabbed them that way, as it was far quicker than their stupid BitTorrent client.
RecordNow is a great but SIMPLE app for the masses. It passes the mom test... but for a geek why are you buying a Dell anyway?
Probably because he bought a laptop (I just picked up a Latitude D610). It takes the ultimate geek to build your own laptop. Sadly, the parent is just a super geek.
Actually, their unix servers are increasing in prices, but they are now selling a lot of AMD servers. What I would like to know, is are they counted as Unix or Linux servers?
Well, that would probably depend on whether they ship with Linux, or Solaris.
Naturally, there's going to be some adjustment moving from one system to another. However, I think if you've experience running Linux and FreeBSD, with a bit of exploring, you'd get a basic handle on HP-UX easily enough. Actually, of all the major UNIX-like flavours (Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, Linux and FreeBSD) that I've used, I found AIX to be the most confusing. Solaris is probably the most Linux-like (actually, it's probably even closer to BSD than Linux), and HP-UX somewhere in the middle.
Well, I wasn't talking about Windows admins so much as admins of other UNIX systems (Sadly, there's so many MCSEs without a clue they've created a bad rep for any Windows admins who might actually be competent). Of course, Windows and UNIX are really quite different, some difficulty adjusting from one to the other is to be expected.
I still stand behind my statement that other UNIX admins (HP-UX, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc) would easily be able to adjust and administer a Linux system, and that was really my biggest problem with the quote from the article.
In general, a Linux system administrator has an easier time working on Microsoft and UNIX operating systems than the other way around.
It's phrases like this that make me question the validity of the whole article. The prejudice many Linux users have against Microsoft alone would be enough to keep them from trying to administer Windows systems. On the other hand, I think most UNIX admins would have an easy time admining a Linux system.
I don't think KDE was ever included with Solaris. CDE, OpenWindows, and eventually GNOME are the only environments that have ever shipped with Solaris, AFAIK.
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Sorry, but I've a sneaking suspicion the rest of Canada puts more money into Quebec than they're "stealing".
How about you just give Ontario back all the money you've, uhh, "borrowed"?
I hate when I forget to close the damn tag..
What I've wanted to know is will GTK2 work with Tiger. I'm not really expecting to hear a yes, but it would be nice to know. Silence is probably the best info I'm going to get, though.
I don't see why it wouldn't at least work in the X11 subsystem.
Here is a port of GTK 1.2 to Mac OS X, I suppose it'd be possible to port GTK 2 as well. I guess there just needs to be enough interest in the project, and people with the skills to do it.
Actually, I'm guessing the reason Apple went with BSD was the existing BSD code already in OpenStep when they decided to base their next-generation OS on it.
I think the parent was saying the program utilises a higher percentage of the cpu, but runs quicker. For example, say the program takes up 15% cpu and runs for 5 minutes without optimizations. Maybe with optimizations, it takes up 20% cpu and runs for 3 minutes. I'm not the OP though, so maybe I misunderstood what he meant :)
The members of the press invited to the WinHEC conference did agree to some sort of EULA, though Paul mentions he didn't see it in any of the material he received. He even states had he seen it, it might've affected his decision to go to WinHEC, which is pretty surprising, considering what an MS shill Paul is.
This would work perfectly for pretty much everything except gaming.
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Isn't that the only reason for keeping the PC around?
With a GPL-compatible license, if Solaris got to be better than Linux, virtually no one would think twice about switching from Debian GNU/Linux to Debian GNU/Solaris.
Big IF. I think many would argue Solaris is already better than Linux. But, for argument's sake, let's say its not better than Linux. If it became better, I'd happily switch, regardless of license.
What do I know though? I use Mac OS X, FreeBSD and Windows.
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Here's the obligatory rebuttal. You're forgetting the software. You can put Linux on it for free, but you're not getting nearly the user experience you get with a Mac.
OP was discussing the "Mac experience" - it made sense to assume replies would also be referring to that. And to add the same suite of applications included with the Mac would bring the cost well over $450.
Dell sells $299 all-inclusive systems with Windows and WordPerfect included. Try again.
Does that include DVD mastering software? Movie editing software? A music creation program? When people talk about the Mac experience, they're not talking about word processing.
Actually, you can find the installers all over the web if you look. I usually grabbed them that way, as it was far quicker than their stupid BitTorrent client.
PartitionMagic has been capable of "on-the-fly" partition resizing for ten years now.
Yeah, and I think it only costs around $80 or so.
RecordNow is a great but SIMPLE app for the masses. It passes the mom test... but for a geek why are you buying a Dell anyway?
Probably because he bought a laptop (I just picked up a Latitude D610). It takes the ultimate geek to build your own laptop. Sadly, the parent is just a super geek.
Actually, their unix servers are increasing in prices, but they are now selling a lot of AMD servers. What I would like to know, is are they counted as Unix or Linux servers?
Well, that would probably depend on whether they ship with Linux, or Solaris.
WAS. They seem to have pretty much abandoned this idea, in favour of licensing some technology from Veritas instead.
Here's one link, there's several articles out there floating around about it.
Another interesting tidbit is that HP at one point was apparently planning on acquiring Veritas, but that didn't pan out either.
Naturally, there's going to be some adjustment moving from one system to another. However, I think if you've experience running Linux and FreeBSD, with a bit of exploring, you'd get a basic handle on HP-UX easily enough. Actually, of all the major UNIX-like flavours (Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, Linux and FreeBSD) that I've used, I found AIX to be the most confusing. Solaris is probably the most Linux-like (actually, it's probably even closer to BSD than Linux), and HP-UX somewhere in the middle.
Well, I wasn't talking about Windows admins so much as admins of other UNIX systems (Sadly, there's so many MCSEs without a clue they've created a bad rep for any Windows admins who might actually be competent). Of course, Windows and UNIX are really quite different, some difficulty adjusting from one to the other is to be expected.
I still stand behind my statement that other UNIX admins (HP-UX, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc) would easily be able to adjust and administer a Linux system, and that was really my biggest problem with the quote from the article.
In general, a Linux system administrator has an easier time working on Microsoft and UNIX operating systems than the other way around.
It's phrases like this that make me question the validity of the whole article. The prejudice many Linux users have against Microsoft alone would be enough to keep them from trying to administer Windows systems. On the other hand, I think most UNIX admins would have an easy time admining a Linux system.
Unless you plug a firewire cable into it..
Isn't that pretty much how it works now? If you write to X11, the driver interprets it. If you write to OpenGL, it gets interpreted by the driver.
I think the important point here is that MS now has TWO Open Source operating systems to fight instead of one.
Two? What about the wonderful BSDs I've been using for years?
What about KDE, did they fix it or dump it ?
I don't think KDE was ever included with Solaris. CDE, OpenWindows, and eventually GNOME are the only environments that have ever shipped with Solaris, AFAIK.
but he did say he was going to port to 486.
an x86 port was eventually released (along with several other platforms, like PA-RISC).
With no end in site with regards to the NHL lockout, how about creating a hockey playing robot? :)