So you are willing to give in to this "urinalysis is freedom" society (to quote Jello Biafra)? You have rights and as you say maybe this employer is not right for this guy. My new employer did not ask me to sign an NDA or background check or anything like this at all. The only document I had to sign was "we can fire you for no reason and you can quit for no reason". I have turned down job offers because of my morales: citibank is evil.
You are dead wrong. They already have lost system sales. there are many people who have already said they would use the hardware (purchase it) if it ran on OpenBSD. Any more ideas? Since all you are doing is guessing might as well as guess some more.
just because there are not a lot of comments posted does not make it unimportant or show that no one cares. There are a lot of people following this story BEFORE slashdot posted it. And where do you get off saying that just because SLASHDOT readers don't comment means NO ONE CARS???? There are millions and millions of people beyond slashdot. You are obviously someone with little respect for hard work.
I work for an ISP and I just got home from work where we had to deal with this madness. It was absoultely horrible people. We got word from UUNET that it is port 1434/udp traffic and they are adding that to their egress filters. We just blocked 1434/udp altogether, at least initially.
We have many many colocated customers, many of whom run msql. This issue is horrible in that it is causing massive packet loss and when packets do get through the latency is around 500ms and up and that is for an all ethernet network segment. Our core router was getting slammed and cpu utilization would hang out at around 100%.
When we started unplugging switches from the routers, traffic would return to normal. We then pinpointed it down to all of our colo customers and disconnected just the sql servers from the network. Effing pain in the ass though.
Goddamned MS and their crappy no-password-requirement for the sql admin user and the moron admins who don't patch their system. Are people this trusting of MS that their servers are safe and/or this stupid they just don't apply patches until they get screwed?
You were locked out of access to computers and the internet for a long time (internet time anyways) after doing things you agree were wrong. You are now working on a consulting business to utilize your hard learned knowledge in a productive manner. You seem to have been 'reformed' by the prison/legal system. How do you feel your life has been changed by the system when you have gone through what so many others are going through or are going to go through in the near future for technology related "crimes"? These people being persecuted by laws like the DMCA and information restriction laws. Having only started reading your book, it sounds like you don't want people to stop being curious, just to be cautious.
I have not ever played NWN. I was so excited back when I thought the Linux client was going to come shipped in the same package as the Windows and Mac. Fast forward a few years; I was so excited when the Linux client was actually going to come out what with the server out and Windows version out for a while now. Fast foward to present day; I don't really care, I am already sick of the game and I still have not even played it yet.
What's your favorite game among these: DN Forever, MOO3, or NWN for Linux?
Screw false hopes and eager marketing liars. I'd rather play the original side scrolling Duke Nukem; Master of Orion 1 was the best anyways; NWN, well I am already sick of it and maybe I will go back to the old TSR: Poolrad, Curse, etc.
It is easy to explain it to a non-techie judge. They will be very vague and rely on the "trust us, we are looking out for the greater good" argument. Nevermind the details, just prosecute this evil copyright violater! We need our $6594650321867623195807351 dollars back we lost in CD sales last year or else music availability and quality will decline and... and... hold our hands.
How much time would you say YOU spend on TPS reports?
I've been reading some right winger's lately. One of them pointed out that total defeat did miracles for Japanese and German society. Hell I think Japanese culture is much healthier than ours.
There is a huge problem with this statement. It was not the society of the Japenese or Germans that caused much death in WWII. It was their governments. The regular citizens did not go, "Oh, I think bombing Pearl Harbor will be a swell idea." Remember that the Nazis were not friendly to their own Germans either, lots of intimidation and violence. They did not represent the majority of average German citizens. Other than on the measure of human loss, the USA probably suffered the most from WWII. Now we have the power trip going IMO.
Without going into any more details on this subject, I think it is safe to say that this is completely off topic (I don't even remember what slashdot posting this thread is on). Anyways...
Peace.
Hmmm... a war... we have not been without war for many decades. There is so much war on this country's brain (government and population at large) mostly thanks to the media (not entirely though). It is hard to get away from war since we have been on such a pro-war foundation for so long, it is like getting a 30 year coke addict (if they're still alive) to quit his drug. The situation we're in has no easy solution. Of course if you're not looking at the problem, only short term or maybe even long term patches, how is war ever not going to rampant?
We need to not bother with Israel (3+ billion a year funding) and we need to keep our nose of the palestinians as well. No media channel covers that worth a damn. So read the 2nd line again!
People believe political adds, largely because there are no informing and reliable sources of unformation in this country.
I would have to disagree with this statement unless you alter it to state "popular/mainstream sources of information" I don't follow the big network news programs anymore, try these:
www.zmag.org
www.democracynow.org
www.opensecrets.org
www.2600.com
www.jimhightower.com
www.wcal.org/programs/peacepathways2002.html
www.indymedia.org
www.pacifica.org (probably any radio station here)
Lots more are out there, but you have make attempts to find them
There is a definite control of information going on though, you are right. It is sometimes very hard to get accurate/truthful information. Just looking for an actual debate (where there are people with actual opposing viewpoints) is hard now-a-days.
Also, I have no idea what Alanis Morissettes definition of anything is. But I do believe most of congress is corrupted. is a very vague phrase. I did not elaborate because it is a digression.
People believe political ads because they have been trained to through years of manipulation and what essentially is brainwashing (alluding to previous statements of lack of informational resources).
Never assume things of strangers. Of course you don't see sarcasm/exageration when you see it? Did you also know the US Government supported and funded Hussein even when we knew he was killing his own? Not to get into all the facts of *that* dirty situation, I was just exagerating in my statement. We do plenty of good in the world also. I don't think that the US Government is all evil; but I do believe most of congress is corrupted.
Almost. If the American GOVERNMENT has anything to do with it. The people and scientists are not on the whole evil and destructive like our government is.
Now if George Bush were in a position to decide the direction this discovery should take, what would he decide?
1) Destroying all who oppose us, us meaning the US Government. 2) Enhancing propulsion for space travel or some other cool space/(astro)phyics/other science related direction. 3) Get another 3 miles/gallon for SUVs
And your point? People will still buy the original makers version. This practice has been done for a long time. Look at pharmacy drugs. People still buy Tylenol even though they can buy generic drugs that have acetaminophen (the active drug in Tylenol) for way less. There hundres and thousands of other drug examples as well as other non-drug related.
Are people (besides the Distros) actually pushing for Linux on the desktop? I know if it becomes mainstream the distros will have huge revenue streams but does everyone else think it is so critical? I am just saying that I have noticed a lot of media attention bringing this up, not so much by regular people though. I should mention I don't use windows on any of the machines I own; I use Linux and OpenBSD.
Careless aggression of marketing put Microsoft where there are today.
You don't say where HERE is. In the twin cities, MN I have cable with about 1.5mb/s down and 384kb/s up. The standard DSL here gets 640kb/s down and 272kb/s up. I don't really like AT&T but I despise the main local phone company (qwest) even more. I am tempted to get DSL through a good local ISP Visi so I can get a static IP address even if my speeds are slower.
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They can't accept it because it violates their goals and their policy
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Supposedly they are, Theo says they put an "OPEN SOURCE" person as the main contact at Sun for this issue. Now all they people they were talking to at Sun before all say go talk to this OS person. He says this person is a "buffer."
Of course they did offer a CDA (like a NDA) for OpenBSD to accept which they can't accept of course.
Your sense of reality seems to have gotten out of whack? When did following strictly to your goals and ideals mean you are inflexible? Theo insulting? look at who he insults: mostly stupid people who say or ask stupid things. Sure sometimes he can go on a tirade but usually it is because people are pissing him off. Haven't you ever said, "GODDAMNIT EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE HELL UP!!!" because you are getting supremely annoyed by ignorance and trivial BS in all directions?
Theo at least says, if you don't like my projects done my way, why are you even talking to me about them? The OpenBSD team is a very professional group of programmers and they put a lot of thought into their decisions about making OpenBSD. Occasionally someone might be able to mention an idea that would be good for the project but mostly they have to submit CODE not IDEAS to be taken seriously by Theo.
why did this get modded flamebait??? They are professional programmers, they made an attempt with *all* available docs and they couldn't do it. Sheriff just mentions that they are no amateurs citing OpenSSH as an example of why they are not. They have strict goals and policies regarding their OS and the project as a whole. Just because they don't bend over...
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So you are willing to give in to this "urinalysis is freedom" society (to quote Jello Biafra)? You have rights and as you say maybe this employer is not right for this guy. My new employer did not ask me to sign an NDA or background check or anything like this at all. The only document I had to sign was "we can fire you for no reason and you can quit for no reason". I have turned down job offers because of my morales: citibank is evil.
You are dead wrong. They already have lost system sales. there are many people who have already said they would use the hardware (purchase it) if it ran on OpenBSD. Any more ideas? Since all you are doing is guessing might as well as guess some more.
just because there are not a lot of comments posted does not make it unimportant or show that no one cares. There are a lot of people following this story BEFORE slashdot posted it. And where do you get off saying that just because SLASHDOT readers don't comment means NO ONE CARS???? There are millions and millions of people beyond slashdot. You are obviously someone with little respect for hard work.
add an independent box between your machine and your internet connection, then you wouldn't need sound at all; I use OpenBSD this way.
I work for an ISP and I just got home from work where we had to deal with this madness. It was absoultely horrible people. We got word from UUNET that it is port 1434/udp traffic and they are adding that to their egress filters. We just blocked 1434/udp altogether, at least initially.
We have many many colocated customers, many of whom run msql. This issue is horrible in that it is causing massive packet loss and when packets do get through the latency is around 500ms and up and that is for an all ethernet network segment. Our core router was getting slammed and cpu utilization would hang out at around 100%.
When we started unplugging switches from the routers, traffic would return to normal. We then pinpointed it down to all of our colo customers and disconnected just the sql servers from the network. Effing pain in the ass though.
Goddamned MS and their crappy no-password-requirement for the sql admin user and the moron admins who don't patch their system. Are people this trusting of MS that their servers are safe and/or this stupid they just don't apply patches until they get screwed?
Whatever, I am soooo tired... g'night
stupid question. He has his girlfriend read his e-mail to him.
You were locked out of access to computers and the internet for a long time (internet time anyways) after doing things you agree were wrong. You are now working on a consulting business to utilize your hard learned knowledge in a productive manner. You seem to have been 'reformed' by the prison/legal system. How do you feel your life has been changed by the system when you have gone through what so many others are going through or are going to go through in the near future for technology related "crimes"? These people being persecuted by laws like the DMCA and information restriction laws. Having only started reading your book, it sounds like you don't want people to stop being curious, just to be cautious.
I have not ever played NWN. I was so excited back when I thought the Linux client was going to come shipped in the same package as the Windows and Mac. Fast forward a few years; I was so excited when the Linux client was actually going to come out what with the server out and Windows version out for a while now. Fast foward to present day; I don't really care, I am already sick of the game and I still have not even played it yet.
What's your favorite game among these: DN Forever, MOO3, or NWN for Linux?
Screw false hopes and eager marketing liars. I'd rather play the original side scrolling Duke Nukem; Master of Orion 1 was the best anyways; NWN, well I am already sick of it and maybe I will go back to the old TSR: Poolrad, Curse, etc.
It's copyrighted with a copyleft
It is easy to explain it to a non-techie judge. They will be very vague and rely on the "trust us, we are looking out for the greater good" argument. Nevermind the details, just prosecute this evil copyright violater! We need our $6594650321867623195807351 dollars back we lost in CD sales last year or else music availability and quality will decline and... and... hold our hands.
How much time would you say YOU spend on TPS reports?
There is a huge problem with this statement. It was not the society of the Japenese or Germans that caused much death in WWII. It was their governments. The regular citizens did not go, "Oh, I think bombing Pearl Harbor will be a swell idea." Remember that the Nazis were not friendly to their own Germans either, lots of intimidation and violence. They did not represent the majority of average German citizens. Other than on the measure of human loss, the USA probably suffered the most from WWII. Now we have the power trip going IMO.
Without going into any more details on this subject, I think it is safe to say that this is completely off topic (I don't even remember what slashdot posting this thread is on). Anyways...
Peace.
Hmmm... a war... we have not been without war for many decades. There is so much war on this country's brain (government and population at large) mostly thanks to the media (not entirely though). It is hard to get away from war since we have been on such a pro-war foundation for so long, it is like getting a 30 year coke addict (if they're still alive) to quit his drug. The situation we're in has no easy solution. Of course if you're not looking at the problem, only short term or maybe even long term patches, how is war ever not going to rampant?
And how is religion not the root of the problem?
Ever listen to the band Stormtroopers of Death?
FUCK THE MIDDLE EAST.
We need to not bother with Israel (3+ billion a year funding) and we need to keep our nose of the palestinians as well. No media channel covers that worth a damn. So read the 2nd line again!
I would have to disagree with this statement unless you alter it to state "popular/mainstream sources of information" I don't follow the big network news programs anymore, try these:
www.zmag.org
www.democracynow.org
www.opensecrets.org
www.2600.com
www.jimhightower.com
www.wcal.org/programs/peacepathways2002.html
www.indymedia.org
www.pacifica.org (probably any radio station here)
Lots more are out there, but you have make attempts to find them
There is a definite control of information going on though, you are right. It is sometimes very hard to get accurate/truthful information. Just looking for an actual debate (where there are people with actual opposing viewpoints) is hard now-a-days.
Also, I have no idea what Alanis Morissettes definition of anything is.
But I do believe most of congress is corrupted. is a very vague phrase.
I did not elaborate because it is a digression.
People believe political ads because they have been trained to through years of manipulation and what essentially is brainwashing (alluding to previous statements of lack of informational resources).
Never assume things of strangers. Of course you don't see sarcasm/exageration when you see it? Did you also know the US Government supported and funded Hussein even when we knew he was killing his own? Not to get into all the facts of *that* dirty situation, I was just exagerating in my statement. We do plenty of good in the world also. I don't think that the US Government is all evil; but I do believe most of congress is corrupted.
Almost. If the American GOVERNMENT has anything to do with it. The people and scientists are not on the whole evil and destructive like our government is.
Now if George Bush were in a position to decide the direction this discovery should take, what would he decide?
1) Destroying all who oppose us, us meaning the US Government.
2) Enhancing propulsion for space travel or some other cool space/(astro)phyics/other science related direction.
3) Get another 3 miles/gallon for SUVs
So do you feel this is true?
1 copied cd/dvd/book = 1 lost sale?
And you still havn't mentioned *what* is being stolen?
And your point? People will still buy the original makers version. This practice has been done for a long time. Look at pharmacy drugs. People still buy Tylenol even though they can buy generic drugs that have acetaminophen (the active drug in Tylenol) for way less. There hundres and thousands of other drug examples as well as other non-drug related.
Are people (besides the Distros) actually pushing for Linux on the desktop? I know if it becomes mainstream the distros will have huge revenue streams but does everyone else think it is so critical? I am just saying that I have noticed a lot of media attention bringing this up, not so much by regular people though. I should mention I don't use windows on any of the machines I own; I use Linux and OpenBSD.
Careless aggression of marketing put Microsoft where there are today.
You don't say where HERE is. In the twin cities, MN I have cable with about 1.5mb/s down and 384kb/s up. The standard DSL here gets 640kb/s down and 272kb/s up. I don't really like AT&T but I despise the main local phone company (qwest) even more. I am tempted to get DSL through a good local ISP Visi so I can get a static IP address even if my speeds are slower.
Confidential Disclosure Agreement (CDA)
They can't accept it because it violates their goals and their policy
Supposedly they are, Theo says they put an "OPEN SOURCE" person as the main contact at Sun for this issue. Now all they people they were talking to at Sun before all say go talk to this OS person. He says this person is a "buffer."
Of course they did offer a CDA (like a NDA) for OpenBSD to accept which they can't accept of course.
Your sense of reality seems to have gotten out of whack? When did following strictly to your goals and ideals mean you are inflexible? Theo insulting? look at who he insults: mostly stupid people who say or ask stupid things. Sure sometimes he can go on a tirade but usually it is because people are pissing him off. Haven't you ever said, "GODDAMNIT EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE HELL UP!!!" because you are getting supremely annoyed by ignorance and trivial BS in all directions?
Theo at least says, if you don't like my projects done my way, why are you even talking to me about them? The OpenBSD team is a very professional group of programmers and they put a lot of thought into their decisions about making OpenBSD. Occasionally someone might be able to mention an idea that would be good for the project but mostly they have to submit CODE not IDEAS to be taken seriously by Theo.
why did this get modded flamebait???
They are professional programmers, they made an attempt with *all* available docs and they couldn't do it. Sheriff just mentions that they are no amateurs citing OpenSSH as an example of why they are not. They have strict goals and policies regarding their OS and the project as a whole. Just because they don't bend over...