... when you leave college, many of you will take on jobs in places that have firewalls, restricted domains and confidentiality agreements.
Is this censorship ? Well, yes and no. It means if I want to do something that the firewall prevents, then I have to wait till I get home and do it on my time, on my machine on my nickle.
As long as we're giving artist chances to exploit the slaughter of 6,000, while others selflessly put themselves at risk in hopes of a miracle, let's think of some other art forms that have yet to be employed:
Interpretive dance - imagine the havoc this would wreak on any form of motion/gps detection/tracking
Finger Painting - for all you Gulliani haters out there, I'm painting you a message with one of my fingers... can't hear it ? here... let me turn it up for you...
Origami - oooh but hey, let's go one step further, instead of paper, let's use body parts as described in the linked article
Opera - as a recovering wagnerian baritone, it would be easy to enter a subway train, and threaten to continue bellowing until passengers meet my demands.
Certainly, we've got to be careful not to let our civil liberties become victims of the recent terrorist attacks. However, art forms that attract attention to the performer I think are more a narcissistic mockery of the madness than anything else.
BTW, yes, I have an undergrad degree in the liberal arts, so there is a sense of ascetics with this nerd...
... so let's have some fun... can you think of some others ? Let's hear'm
Re:has JK ever worked for such a company ?
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Well, is it immoral for a company to make a profit?
I mean, consider this, perhaps they are shutting down one avenue of business (and laying off folks), and starting another in an entirely different area ? Perhaps they have charities who benefit from the large margins.
I realize that it is often the case that it is the "bosses" or "owners" who make the lion's share. Yet one must ask themselves, are these people in business as a form of welfare/workfare ? IF they are, then certainly, there is a moral obligation.
But if they are not, then the employee needs to understand the risk going into the job.
has JK ever worked for such a company ?
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Not knowing Jon Katz' history. Has he ever worked for a company such as QWest ?
There is a financial reality here. Companies have to make money. Is it not equally immoral to keep everyone on payroll, at the expense of one's debtors ?
Certainly, there are some nasty companies out there. I know, I've worked for some of them. But the reality is that the "gold watch" methaphor was a short lived creature of the mid 20th century. Well, there were those friends of royalty who worked for life a particular despot, until their boss was deposed. At which point, their contract, along with their lives were usually terminated. That, or slavery.
While I wish loyalty was valued more by both employer and employee, the reality is that jobs are just that, jobs.
Such a system would have not stopped the terrorism of September 11th.
I was on the original INSPASS development team. Even back then, there was always talk about expanding it to a National ID Card.
INSPASS is a voluntary program that expires after a year. Hand Geometry is a "good guy" system. Meaning, I say "Hi, I'm Bob Smith" and it reads a paultry 14 char. signature and says "yup, you are, go on through".
Moreover, the signature is encoded in a machine readable OCRB text type. The same print used on your passport. The big reason, people didn't want "hidden" information on the card.
But as I mentioned earlier, there was always talk about such a card. We prototyped a system back in 1994, which captured a fingerprint and a face. It put the information on a smart card, and printed the face on the card. We took it around to several security (esp. airline security) trade shows. No one was interested. Even when we linked it to printing baggage tags.
But what really killed it was internal fighting with Govt types. At the airport, the system check out the "good guy" against a database run and managed by U.S.Customs. Problem is, Customs is Treasury and INS is DOJustice. Unless Bush stops the petty infighting either by putting them under one roof, or by edict, such a system will be difficult to maintain.
THen there are the Govt types who wanted to "design" the ultimate system or card. No lie, one proposed system captured one's face, finger and hand, then encoded the data on a single card that included OCRB type, a Mag Stripe, a 2d Bar Code, a 1d Bar Code and a smartcard/chip... oh, with just enough room to squeeze in your face.
Unless such idiocy can be removed from the process, I'm very doubtful such a system will stop any bad guys.
Afghanistan has seen nothing but destruction and fanatism in the last 15 to 20 years
Try 1500 to 2000 years. This is a culture of death and destruction.
Unfortunately, while it would indeed be better for all sides to stop the fighting by giving them something to live for, I do not think they'll sit around and wait as we dig foundations for buildings, pour cement, train nurses and doctors, teach their children boolean logic.
In part, because to do so would imply that they have the same freedoms we do. They don't. Much of the suffering they endure is at the hands of their own Mullah's. Women cannot have jobs. Widows are compelled to beg. Executions are held in soccer stadiums.
Before we could enact any sort of Marshall plan, we're going to first have to root out and annihlate the evil that exists there.
In the case of Michael Jackson, along with a few other has-been performers I can think of (but don't want to) isn't making the CD uncopyable a bit redundant ?
Appearently, this, and the original InfoWorld article made it to WebPagesThatSuck with the point that pages produced with FrontPage are disparaging to MicroSoft's image enough, without having to say anything about the product explicitly.
I'm glad someone is asking about the cost. But I think I've got the hardware thing worked out.
I've got a bunch of old Pentium I's and II's in a basement of a charity I do some volunteer work for. Can get a hold of a router. I've got all the nerd-boys a bit pumped to beowulf a cluster this winter when it's too cold to paintball.
So my question is, what to run on the blasted thing once you get it up ? Is there anything open source out there worth looking into ? Or am I just going to have to buy an application. If so, which one, how much ?
I was reading the link I suggested, and went on a rabbit trail regarding then Chief Justice
Marshall's involvement with habeas corpus... the name stuck, I foobar'd... like the times I use they're when I should use their... comes from spending too much time writing crap like
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a= unx"C*",$_)
[20]&48){$h=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8, ch r($_^$a[--$h+84])}
@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d=unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|( or d$b[4])>8^($f=($t=255)&($d>>12^$d>> 4^$d^$d/8))>8^($t&
($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q>=8)+=$f+(~$g &$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g; eval for a living.
Last week, living here in D.C., I heard a news commentator use the phrase "Marshall Law" when describing planes overhead and armed troops around the White House. Putting my head in my hand, I mumbled "whatta idiot".
My wife asked why, I explained to her that generally one considers the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus to be Marshall Law. Mind you, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on T.V.
However, it raised the question in my mind last week, are we going to be compelled by current circumstances to forgoe some freedoms in exchange for not loosing them all ? Opinions ?
development tools hassle
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My problem with WAP is the daggoned flaming hoops I have to go through to develop WAP applications. For example, the Palm . Yes, you get the emulator up-front and free. But to make the emulator useful, I have to sign up for Development Resources Seeding Program to get ROM images. This includes snail mail, as exampled in the e-mail they sent me:
If you did not download the legal agreement in PDF format, please do so now by returning to the signup page in the Provider Pavilion. You must sign and return TWO (2) copies of legal agreement. (Faxes will not be accepted). Please allow 2 weeks to process your documentation.
So unless I've got a burning project, forget about doing this stuff as a hobby, or in my case, for a charity I'm involved with. I'll just go install some Open Source groupware product with minimal WAP capabilities.
Good points, from a unique vantage point. Thanks for sharing them. You also confirm my suspicion that we're dealing with a suicide cult here. That and answer one of the questions bothering me, if bin-Laden really cared about Afganistan, then why isn't he using his millions to create industries ?
Your response answers that question, but does raise another one. How does one go about exterminatnig this vermin ? Do we go village-hopping ? That is, we go to a village, offer it prosperity & protection for cooperation and annihlation saying no ?
Do we keep then on the run so much that they can't organize ? Set traps for them ? YOu seem to have a good understanding of the situation, I'd like some more detail of your opinions.
You need to study some history child. There are several ways of winning this war without holding land. Especially since the target in this is a network of terrorists who've aligned to create a confederacy.
The ultimate trick will be getting these bastards to feed upon themselves. Consider this, more Afgani's died from the ensuant civil war, then when the Russians occupied their territory (what the Russians did wrong was try to hold objectives long after they nuked them).
This means disrupting the organization to a point where bloody infighting insues. This means killing/removing/incapacitating leaders/field generals. It means creating logistical nightmares. It means cutting off their money supplies.
Of that last point, I'm still bothered by types like bin-Laden, who have millions of dollars, yet seek war instead of turning those funds around to help the very people he claims to lead. Think of how much infrastructure and industry $500 million could have done for Afganistan ?
Bin Laden - Not Guilty ? SO WHAT ?!
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How nice that you give bin Laden et.al. the benefit of western tought and action.
Perhaps after you understand the religious suicide cult we're up against, you'll understand that this isn't about vengence nor anti-Islamic rhetoric.
It's about dealing with a confederation of hate cults. A network of people who hold in disdain to the lives of those outside their cult. And treat any and all disagreement with violence and jihad.
The purpose of taking bin Laden out, guilty or not will serve two useful purposes. First, it puts a kink in their death-machine-network, both financially and with regards to the adhesion of their confederation (causing internal strife is one sure way to get them off our backs). Second, it conveys to them a message in their preferred language.
Last week, Rumsfeld likened the task of erradicating terrorists to exterminating cock-roaches. When you think about it, this metaphor goes a long way.
Just as burning one's own house down is the wrong approach, so is nuking Afganistan. What the "new warfare" means, at least to me, is if we see them scurrying across the floor, we stomp on them. We set up roach motel like traps to lure them in. We put down boric acid so they take toxins back into their nests.
If war were not so horribly obscene, it might be interesting to see what sort of tactics are going to be employed.
Well, I guess this old-fart of a programmer is scrathing his head saying clear who, censor what ? Desperately trying not to be a troll, I'm just wondering if this isn't more a move by some company that I've never heard of to remain profitable by makin and adjustment for the recent change in mood.
Let's go to the site and see.
Okay, there's a picture of Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, Alan Keyes... It's publically traded... their ops got disrupted since they're in downtown NYC.... hmmm, Department of Justice to investigate whether Clear Channel's concert-promotion company is engaging in unfair business practices after some New Jersey constituents complained.
Hey guys, I think this looks like a company that's trying to keep a low profile. In other words, this may have less to do with civil liberties than it does with their bottom line. Either giving their demographics what they want (or don't want)... and by not pissing off "The Man."
Sometime last week, I suggested voluntary biometrics as must one small measure to help facilitate idendification of the average joe. The thought is that as we are routed to more automated inspections, enforcement officers are freed up to perform more thorough human inspections. I've seen facial recognition and other technologies suggested as well.
Perhaps what's needed is NOT legislation as the article suggests. For as with toll bridges, once set, they are very difficult to repeal.
Instead, why not voluntary programs? For example, my enrollment in the above program would automatically expire in a year's time, unless I opt out right away. No harm is done either way, as I choose to go the long route.
Granted, we are temporarily suspending some of our civil liberties, in return for safety, but in a way where we control the duration and participation in the program.
No they don't! Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. These laws may be sold to the sheeple under a veneer of "sweetness and light" but those promoting these laws most certainly do not "mean well".
Now that I think about it... yup, your right. Massive mea culprits (hanging head in shame and scuffling the floor).
Seriously, yes, after seeing some of the above arguments, you are indeed right. It would almost seem some are jumping on this horrible situation to punch in legislation to control various civil liberties.
Unfortunately, this is like so many gun control laws we have here in the States. They mean well, but in most (not all) cases, they limit the rights of the law-abiding, while the law-breaker could give a fig.
While I understand the desire behind such legislation, I think it's a bit misguided. Once again, we assume that the bad guys will be deterred by legislation. They are going to be deterred by enforcement.
This particular legislation, governing website content, is going to be very tough to enforce. Especially when it is so easy to set up your own server, have restricted areas, imbed messages in.gif files all under the guise of an online flower shop.
Perhaps a better solution is to take advantage of the web's openess and freedom and set up a few stings. Yeah, that sucks too, but not as much as having joe government approving my content.
If it's harder for these extremists to paint the US as evil, the number of recruits they get will drastically decrease.
Make sense?
Not really. I mean, I'll look in the yellow pages, but I'll tell you now, I'm going to be hard pressed to find kindergardens that will teach my baby how to use an AK47. Point is, do you think the type of mind that would train their children such things would care if they had a legit excuse or not ?
As for blind revenge. NO, this isn't about revenge. It's about not making the same mistake the last time we faced pure evil. In case you don't remember (or care), it had to do with someone making a deal to sell out the Czechs in return for "Peace in our Time".
Jimminny Cricketts, how many lives did that cost us ?
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense. We let Iraq sell billions of dollars in oil so they can supply their own people with medical supplies... yet, somehow the money doesn't get there... and then they show pictures of dying babies, blaming the U.S.
Almost as much sense as the African warlords hijacking humanitarian supplies.
Slashdot Mirror
... when you leave college, many of you will take on jobs in places that have firewalls, restricted domains and confidentiality agreements.
Is this censorship ? Well, yes and no. It means if I want to do something that the firewall prevents, then I have to wait till I get home and do it on my time, on my machine on my nickle.
Interpretive dance - imagine the havoc this would wreak on any form of motion/gps detection/tracking
Finger Painting - for all you Gulliani haters out there, I'm painting you a message with one of my fingers ... can't hear it ? here ... let me turn it up for you ...
Origami - oooh but hey, let's go one step further, instead of paper, let's use body parts as described in the linked article
Opera - as a recovering wagnerian baritone, it would be easy to enter a subway train, and threaten to continue bellowing until passengers meet my demands.
...
... can you think of some others ? Let's hear'm
Certainly, we've got to be careful not to let our civil liberties become victims of the recent terrorist attacks. However, art forms that attract attention to the performer I think are more a narcissistic mockery of the madness than anything else.
BTW, yes, I have an undergrad degree in the liberal arts, so there is a sense of ascetics with this nerd
... so let's have some fun
Well, is it immoral for a company to make a profit?
I mean, consider this, perhaps they are shutting down one avenue of business (and laying off folks), and starting another in an entirely different area ? Perhaps they have charities who benefit from the large margins.
I realize that it is often the case that it is the "bosses" or "owners" who make the lion's share. Yet one must ask themselves, are these people in business as a form of welfare/workfare ? IF they are, then certainly, there is a moral obligation.
But if they are not, then the employee needs to understand the risk going into the job.
Not knowing Jon Katz' history. Has he ever worked for a company such as QWest ?
There is a financial reality here. Companies have to make money. Is it not equally immoral to keep everyone on payroll, at the expense of one's debtors ?
Certainly, there are some nasty companies out there. I know, I've worked for some of them. But the reality is that the "gold watch" methaphor was a short lived creature of the mid 20th century. Well, there were those friends of royalty who worked for life a particular despot, until their boss was deposed. At which point, their contract, along with their lives were usually terminated. That, or slavery.
While I wish loyalty was valued more by both employer and employee, the reality is that jobs are just that, jobs.
Such a system would have not stopped the terrorism of September 11th.
... oh, with just enough room to squeeze in your face.
I was on the original INSPASS development team. Even back then, there was always talk about expanding it to a National ID Card.
INSPASS is a voluntary program that expires after a year. Hand Geometry is a "good guy" system. Meaning, I say "Hi, I'm Bob Smith" and it reads a paultry 14 char. signature and says "yup, you are, go on through".
Moreover, the signature is encoded in a machine readable OCRB text type. The same print used on your passport. The big reason, people didn't want "hidden" information on the card.
But as I mentioned earlier, there was always talk about such a card. We prototyped a system back in 1994, which captured a fingerprint and a face. It put the information on a smart card, and printed the face on the card. We took it around to several security (esp. airline security) trade shows. No one was interested. Even when we linked it to printing baggage tags.
But what really killed it was internal fighting with Govt types. At the airport, the system check out the "good guy" against a database run and managed by U.S.Customs. Problem is, Customs is Treasury and INS is DOJustice. Unless Bush stops the petty infighting either by putting them under one roof, or by edict, such a system will be difficult to maintain.
THen there are the Govt types who wanted to "design" the ultimate system or card. No lie, one proposed system captured one's face, finger and hand, then encoded the data on a single card that included OCRB type, a Mag Stripe, a 2d Bar Code, a 1d Bar Code and a smartcard/chip
Unless such idiocy can be removed from the process, I'm very doubtful such a system will stop any bad guys.
Afghanistan has seen nothing but destruction and fanatism in the last 15 to 20 years
Try 1500 to 2000 years. This is a culture of death and destruction.
Unfortunately, while it would indeed be better for all sides to stop the fighting by giving them something to live for, I do not think they'll sit around and wait as we dig foundations for buildings, pour cement, train nurses and doctors, teach their children boolean logic.
In part, because to do so would imply that they have the same freedoms we do. They don't. Much of the suffering they endure is at the hands of their own Mullah's. Women cannot have jobs. Widows are compelled to beg. Executions are held in soccer stadiums.
Before we could enact any sort of Marshall plan, we're going to first have to root out and annihlate the evil that exists there.
In the case of Michael Jackson, along with a few other has-been performers I can think of (but don't want to) isn't making the CD uncopyable a bit redundant ?
Appearently, this, and the original InfoWorld article made it to WebPagesThatSuck with the point that pages produced with FrontPage are disparaging to MicroSoft's image enough, without having to say anything about the product explicitly.
Because we can !
I'm glad someone is asking about the cost. But I think I've got the hardware thing worked out.
I've got a bunch of old Pentium I's and II's in a basement of a charity I do some volunteer work for. Can get a hold of a router. I've got all the nerd-boys a bit pumped to beowulf a cluster this winter when it's too cold to paintball.
So my question is, what to run on the blasted thing once you get it up ? Is there anything open source out there worth looking into ? Or am I just going to have to buy an application. If so, which one, how much ?
I was reading the link I suggested, and went on a rabbit trail regarding then Chief Justice ... the name stuck, I foobar'd ... like the times I use they're when I should use their ... comes from spending too much time writing crap like
= unx"C*",$_)
, ch r($_^$a[--$h+84])}
( or d$b[4])>8^($f=($t=255)&($d>>12^$d>> 4^$d^$d/8))>8^($t&
; eval for a living.
Marshall's involvement with habeas corpus
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a
[20]&48){$h=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8
@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d=unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|
($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q>=8)+=$f+(~$g &$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g
Last week, living here in D.C., I heard a news commentator use the phrase "Marshall Law" when describing planes overhead and armed troops around the White House. Putting my head in my hand, I mumbled "whatta idiot".
My wife asked why, I explained to her that generally one considers the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus to be Marshall Law. Mind you, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on T.V.
However, it raised the question in my mind last week, are we going to be compelled by current circumstances to forgoe some freedoms in exchange for not loosing them all ? Opinions ?
My problem with WAP is the daggoned flaming hoops I have to go through to develop WAP applications. For example, the Palm . Yes, you get the emulator up-front and free. But to make the emulator useful, I have to sign up for Development Resources Seeding Program to get ROM images. This includes snail mail, as exampled in the e-mail they sent me:
If you did not download the legal agreement in PDF format, please do so now by returning to the signup page in the Provider Pavilion. You must sign and return TWO (2) copies of legal agreement. (Faxes will not be accepted). Please allow 2 weeks to process your documentation.
So unless I've got a burning project, forget about doing this stuff as a hobby, or in my case, for a charity I'm involved with. I'll just go install some Open Source groupware product with minimal WAP capabilities.
Good points, from a unique vantage point. Thanks for sharing them. You also confirm my suspicion that we're dealing with a suicide cult here. That and answer one of the questions bothering me, if bin-Laden really cared about Afganistan, then why isn't he using his millions to create industries ?
Your response answers that question, but does raise another one. How does one go about exterminatnig this vermin ? Do we go village-hopping ? That is, we go to a village, offer it prosperity & protection for cooperation and annihlation saying no ?
Do we keep then on the run so much that they can't organize ? Set traps for them ? YOu seem to have a good understanding of the situation, I'd like some more detail of your opinions.
You need to study some history child. There are several ways of winning this war without holding land. Especially since the target in this is a network of terrorists who've aligned to create a confederacy.
The ultimate trick will be getting these bastards to feed upon themselves. Consider this, more Afgani's died from the ensuant civil war, then when the Russians occupied their territory (what the Russians did wrong was try to hold objectives long after they nuked them).
This means disrupting the organization to a point where bloody infighting insues. This means killing/removing/incapacitating leaders/field generals. It means creating logistical nightmares. It means cutting off their money supplies.
Of that last point, I'm still bothered by types like bin-Laden, who have millions of dollars, yet seek war instead of turning those funds around to help the very people he claims to lead. Think of how much infrastructure and industry $500 million could have done for Afganistan ?
How nice that you give bin Laden et.al. the benefit of western tought and action.
Read This
Perhaps after you understand the religious suicide cult we're up against, you'll understand that this isn't about vengence nor anti-Islamic rhetoric.
It's about dealing with a confederation of hate cults. A network of people who hold in disdain to the lives of those outside their cult. And treat any and all disagreement with violence and jihad.
The purpose of taking bin Laden out, guilty or not will serve two useful purposes. First, it puts a kink in their death-machine-network, both financially and with regards to the adhesion of their confederation (causing internal strife is one sure way to get them off our backs). Second, it conveys to them a message in their preferred language.
Last week, Rumsfeld likened the task of erradicating terrorists to exterminating cock-roaches. When you think about it, this metaphor goes a long way.
Just as burning one's own house down is the wrong approach, so is nuking Afganistan. What the "new warfare" means, at least to me, is if we see them scurrying across the floor, we stomp on them. We set up roach motel like traps to lure them in. We put down boric acid so they take toxins back into their nests.
If war were not so horribly obscene, it might be interesting to see what sort of tactics are going to be employed.
Well, I guess this old-fart of a programmer is scrathing his head saying clear who, censor what ? Desperately trying not to be a troll, I'm just wondering if this isn't more a move by some company that I've never heard of to remain profitable by makin and adjustment for the recent change in mood.
... It's publically traded ... their ops got disrupted since they're in downtown NYC .... hmmm, Department of Justice to investigate whether Clear Channel's concert-promotion company is engaging in unfair business practices after some New Jersey constituents complained.
... and by not pissing off "The Man."
Let's go to the site and see.
Okay, there's a picture of Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, Alan Keyes
Hey guys, I think this looks like a company that's trying to keep a low profile. In other words, this may have less to do with civil liberties than it does with their bottom line. Either giving their demographics what they want (or don't want)
If you were present 90 years ago, you would recognize this as the same argument for starting the "voluntary" social security system
... hmmmm ...
Very good point. Hadn't put that together, but now that you mention it
Sometime last week, I suggested voluntary biometrics as must one small measure to help facilitate idendification of the average joe. The thought is that as we are routed to more automated inspections, enforcement officers are freed up to perform more thorough human inspections. I've seen facial recognition and other technologies suggested as well.
Perhaps what's needed is NOT legislation as the article suggests. For as with toll bridges, once set, they are very difficult to repeal.
Instead, why not voluntary programs? For example, my enrollment in the above program would automatically expire in a year's time, unless I opt out right away. No harm is done either way, as I choose to go the long route.
Granted, we are temporarily suspending some of our civil liberties, in return for safety, but in a way where we control the duration and participation in the program.
No they don't! Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. These laws may be sold to the sheeple under a veneer of "sweetness and light" but those promoting these laws most certainly do not "mean well".
... yup, your right. Massive mea culprits (hanging head in shame and scuffling the floor).
Now that I think about it
Seriously, yes, after seeing some of the above arguments, you are indeed right. It would almost seem some are jumping on this horrible situation to punch in legislation to control various civil liberties.
MOD the above response UP ...
What a spectacular article. Someone remarked that I scared the crap out of them with my question and several links.
But I think your single has me freaking out. Unbelievable. Totally unbelievable.
Thanks
Unfortunately, this is like so many gun control laws we have here in the States. They mean well, but in most (not all) cases, they limit the rights of the law-abiding, while the law-breaker could give a fig.
.gif files all under the guise of an online flower shop.
While I understand the desire behind such legislation, I think it's a bit misguided. Once again, we assume that the bad guys will be deterred by legislation. They are going to be deterred by enforcement.
This particular legislation, governing website content, is going to be very tough to enforce. Especially when it is so easy to set up your own server, have restricted areas, imbed messages in
Perhaps a better solution is to take advantage of the web's openess and freedom and set up a few stings. Yeah, that sucks too, but not as much as having joe government approving my content.
If it's harder for these extremists to paint the US as evil, the number of recruits they get will drastically decrease.
Make sense?
Not really. I mean, I'll look in the yellow pages, but I'll tell you now, I'm going to be hard pressed to find kindergardens that will teach my baby how to use an AK47. Point is, do you think the type of mind that would train their children such things would care if they had a legit excuse or not ?
As for blind revenge. NO, this isn't about revenge. It's about not making the same mistake the last time we faced pure evil. In case you don't remember (or care), it had to do with someone making a deal to sell out the Czechs in return for "Peace in our Time".
Jimminny Cricketts, how many lives did that cost us ?
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense. We let Iraq sell billions of dollars in oil so they can supply their own people with medical supplies ... yet, somehow the money doesn't get there ... and then they show pictures of dying babies, blaming the U.S.
Almost as much sense as the African warlords hijacking humanitarian supplies.