I've been using XP on my PDC for quite some time now
Then you should know that there are two variants - home and office (and probably the server ones too). The home version has no need for domains, except for doing remote dial-in to work. For that they'll sell you xp-pro (the office variant) so you can do a single person TS and run your office box remotely.
By the way, am I the only one who can't concieve trusting a server with big candy colored buttons?
You missed the question - how much can these components be upgraded? ATA-100 is pretty much the top for most systems (unless you get a board with ide raid) and a decent 10/100 net card is as much as you're likely to ever need. My point is that mature stuff goes on the motherboard.
Companies have a right to exist, at least as a group of people working to a goal. What they don't have is a right to succeed. They have the right to try, but failure happens and they should not be shielded from it.
Fair use also means being able to excerpt parts of a work, such as Schindler's List for criticism, parody, or whatever. In parts of Europe, fairuse means making a copy for a friend
that makes sense the same way that anti-helmet law people say that sometimes not wearing a helmet saved someone's life (there are a few documented cases).
Such as me...
we all know that 99% of the sharing is people who are 1. too cheap and/or 2. too lazy to get a copy of the "item" itself.
Then explain why record sales spiked when napster came out and slumped after it got shut down.
,i>So _trusted_ systems means your tech support teams Windows based computers
Of course not. Trusted means the other machines in the cluster and a port through the firewall to untruster SQL clients or whatever your Datacenter box does. And, if you run IIS on that thing, you had better not allow anything to talk to it. Do that and I will point and laugh.
what is needed is compartmentalization - sure, you run a firewall between the world and the corp, but you also run a firewall in front of anything sensitive. Internal firewalls of this sort have the advantage of being able to be more restrictive because they're protecting at most a few services. Corp level firewalls have to be more permissive in order to prevent open user revolt.
Firewall don't stop users from bringing in infected laptops from home that start infecting production machines. --- Firewalls are a false illusion of safety. Stupid users can always bypass security at any time.
I've seen you before. You were spewing the same tripe then as now
Firewalls do stop users when they lie between the server and everything else. If i were configuring a database server, it would have two ports accessible from the corp - ssh and the database. Nimda can't do much over that.
Also, if your users can get physical access to a datacenter style box, you're boned. That's just a given
Not likely. In this configuration, the database runs SQL server and nothing else. There is a firewall between the web and data tier with one, maybe two ports turned on. Besides, you can patch the web server.
So, you're suggesting security by obscurity? Hmm, best of luck to you.
I would prefer to solve the problem, but if i can't patch, I'll do the next best thing: isolate the servers from the rest of the network. Good luck infecting with nimda when you can't even hit port 80 and all mail ports are blocked (in case some nimrod installs outlook on a datacenter.
If you aren't allowed to patch your server, then you should isolate it behind a firewall of some sort, so that the chances of infection are minimized. This may not work well for IIS (beyond simply not running it), but it will serve you well in the general case.
since the Morris worm has had any significant effect on the Internet as a whole
Nimda trashed a decent portion of the internet by overloading it to the point that router traffic couldn't get through. This caused widescale route flapping for a day or two which caused regional instability.
Earlier this year, a train fire in Baltimore took out a good part of the local network infrastructure - this could easily be much worse if someone attacked the fiber deliberately and in multiple places.
If I was an employer, I would like to be able to see a potential employee's employment record. I do not want to hire lazy idiots that do not have the motivation or commitment to fufill, their responsibilities to the company properly.
So, when you leave a scummy employer, he can badmouth you to the next guy. You could look at the employment record and see that the latest buzzwords aren't mentioned, so they obviously don't know that. Then you go whine to congress about the lack of competent workers in hi tech
the health record part is different to me.... Mandated healthcare coverage means that *EVERYONE* pays when someone runs up a multi-million dollar medical bill
That's the point of insurance - you spread the risk around. If we do what you suggest, then we only insure the healthy (who don't need it). God help you if you contract something expensive - you'll never work again and you'll die in some back alley somewhere.
Too bad it[MCA] didn't take off
That's because it was proprietary, expensive, and unnecessary at the time.
I would prefer them in JAIL
Then you can pay for their upkeep and training in further criminal activity. Bravo!
have to worry about a 2Pac wannabe having a PCP induced flashback and bustin' a cap in my ass!
I'd rather have an ex gang member in the next cube than pushing crack on the streets.
I've been using XP on my PDC for quite some time now
Then you should know that there are two variants - home and office (and probably the server ones too). The home version has no need for domains, except for doing remote dial-in to work. For that they'll sell you xp-pro (the office variant) so you can do a single person TS and run your office box remotely.
By the way, am I the only one who can't concieve trusting a server with big candy colored buttons?
You missed the question - how much can these components be upgraded? ATA-100 is pretty much the top for most systems (unless you get a board with ide raid) and a decent 10/100 net card is as much as you're likely to ever need. My point is that mature stuff goes on the motherboard.
Perhaps you could tell me how much i can upgrade a decent 10/100 NIC or a ATA-100 ide controller.
can't make $$$ off a search engine can you?
Sure you can. google licenses their technology to corps who index their own networks. The main site functions as an advert for this.
Companies have a right to exist, at least as a group of people working to a goal. What they don't have is a right to succeed. They have the right to try, but failure happens and they should not be shielded from it.
Fair use also means being able to excerpt parts of a work, such as Schindler's List for criticism, parody, or whatever. In parts of Europe, fairuse means making a copy for a friend
that makes sense the same way that anti-helmet law people say that sometimes not wearing a helmet saved someone's life (there are a few documented cases).
Such as me...
we all know that 99% of the sharing is people who are 1. too cheap and/or 2. too lazy to get a copy of the "item" itself.
Then explain why record sales spiked when napster came out and slumped after it got shut down.
But what if they hit half the houses in town?
Then they lynch the locksmith.
The number of high schools that have manditory discrete math courses is very few
Tell me about it. My HS didn't even have any discrete math/linear algebra; not even in the library!
,i>So _trusted_ systems means your tech support teams Windows based computers
Of course not. Trusted means the other machines in the cluster and a port through the firewall to untruster SQL clients or whatever your Datacenter box does. And, if you run IIS on that thing, you had better not allow anything to talk to it. Do that and I will point and laugh.
what is needed is compartmentalization - sure, you run a firewall between the world and the corp, but you also run a firewall in front of anything sensitive. Internal firewalls of this sort have the advantage of being able to be more restrictive because they're protecting at most a few services. Corp level firewalls have to be more permissive in order to prevent open user revolt.
You can firewall for this and you can firewall for that
When you let 1, maybe 2 ports through, the next big thing tends to bounce off your firewall. If we don't explicitly need it, it ain't getting in!
Put the datacenter server behind a firewall
better yet, don't run a webserver on your datacenter
Firewall don't stop users from bringing in infected laptops from home that start infecting production machines. --- Firewalls are a false illusion of safety. Stupid users can always bypass security at any time.
I've seen you before. You were spewing the same tripe then as now
Firewalls do stop users when they lie between the server and everything else. If i were configuring a database server, it would have two ports accessible from the corp - ssh and the database. Nimda can't do much over that.
Also, if your users can get physical access to a datacenter style box, you're boned. That's just a given
Not likely. In this configuration, the database runs SQL server and nothing else. There is a firewall between the web and data tier with one, maybe two ports turned on. Besides, you can patch the web server.
So, you're suggesting security by obscurity? Hmm, best of luck to you.
I would prefer to solve the problem, but if i can't patch, I'll do the next best thing: isolate the servers from the rest of the network. Good luck infecting with nimda when you can't even hit port 80 and all mail ports are blocked (in case some nimrod installs outlook on a datacenter.
If you aren't allowed to patch your server, then you should isolate it behind a firewall of some sort, so that the chances of infection are minimized. This may not work well for IIS (beyond simply not running it), but it will serve you well in the general case.
Porn makers decided to produce VHS exlusivly
I thought that was because Sony refused to license Beta to them
Or, as I thought upon first seeing Tucker, "Why can't you be Chris Rock?"
since the Morris worm has had any significant effect on the Internet as a whole
Nimda trashed a decent portion of the internet by overloading it to the point that router traffic couldn't get through. This caused widescale route flapping for a day or two which caused regional instability.
Earlier this year, a train fire in Baltimore took out a good part of the local network infrastructure - this could easily be much worse if someone attacked the fiber deliberately and in multiple places.
In the works of Robert Heinlein, "When a society reaches the point where it requires an ID card of all its citizens, it's time to find a new planet."
Damnit! We need another planet!
If I was an employer, I would like to be able to see a potential employee's employment record. I do not want to hire lazy idiots that do not have the motivation or commitment to fufill, their responsibilities to the company properly.
So, when you leave a scummy employer, he can badmouth you to the next guy. You could look at the employment record and see that the latest buzzwords aren't mentioned, so they obviously don't know that. Then you go whine to congress about the lack of competent workers in hi tech
the health record part is different to me. ... Mandated healthcare coverage means that *EVERYONE* pays when someone runs up a multi-million dollar medical bill
That's the point of insurance - you spread the risk around. If we do what you suggest, then we only insure the healthy (who don't need it). God help you if you contract something expensive - you'll never work again and you'll die in some back alley somewhere.