(a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
del ta'ic or del'tic adj.
Word History: A Greek letter sits at the mouth of many rivers. Noticing the resemblance between the island formed by sediment at the mouth of a river such as the Nile and the triangular shape of their letter delta, the Greeks gave the name delta to such an island. English borrowed this sense from Greek, although the word delta appeared first in English as the name of the letter, in a work written possibly around 1200. The sense ?alluvial deposit? is not recorded until 1555, when delta is used with reference to the Nile River delta.
So what does a river delta have to do with your bad spelling?
Well, it depend on a lot of things.. Did they just delete those 50 mp3s, or did they wipe your entire drive (which you still couldn't sue them over, unless the damages were more than $5,000)?:-)
Try to keep up... The article Timothy posted was about the fact that the RIAA wanted the right to hack in. This article has to do with the RIAA backing down from their earlier position.
The FAQ also says it doesn't emulate the environment. Twit.
It's wrong... It's not like FAQs are always 100% correct.
It lets win32 programs run, not by interpreting their system calls, or fooling them that they're running on Windows, but by simply
providing the libraries that would be there.
So it duplicates the environment (the DLLs) necessary to run a win32 application. It emulates. Wow, what a concept.
Now, if you don't think Wine is an emulator, please post a definition of emulate for which Wine doesn't qualify.
The wine FAQ says it isn't an emulator. And you are arguing that that proves it is?
According to a post above (from hawkfan) the FAQ gives a definition of emulator, which Wine happens to meet. This is not a difficult concept. WINE duplicates the environment that a win32 application runs in.
There is nothing actually being emulated in wine. It consists of an executable loader - like the native linux loader, but works with win32 code -, and a shared library - which is a reimplementation of something that already exists.
In other words, it duplicates an environment that already exists, right? Therefore, it an emulator! See how that works?
Has it occurred to you that the dictionary definition might be wrong? Of course not,
As I mentioned already (and you apparently missed), the definition posted previously in this thread by hawkfan (taken from the the Wine FAQ) actually shows how Wine qualifies as an emulator. Not that there's anything wrong with being an emulator, but it seems somewhat pointless to deny this simply fact.
Wine duplicates the Win32 environment (the dll's) that Win32 applications need to run. That definately meets the very definition posted by hawkfan earlier in this thread (apparently from the Wine FAQ).
If you want to make that argument, then go for it.
IF WINE was a emulator, it could be re-compiled to work with PPC Linux or Alpha (thats a CPU platform, now 64bit, that was developed by Digital cum Compaq & made by Samsung & Intel) Linux.
I'm well aware of what an Alpha is. I have a nice Mutlia that I use to heat my apartment during the winter:-) However, I see nothing in the definition of emulator that says it has to run on each and every platform, so you're argument basically falls flat on its face.
According to every definition of emulator that I've seen (including the one in a previous post that was from the WINE faq), WINE qualifies.
It's just a collection of libraries that do the same thing as their Win32 counterparts.
So, in other words, WINE is a collection of libraries that duplicates the functionality of their Win32 counterparts: ie. an emulator. Thanks for helping make my point.
Dinivin
Just because I say "I'm not a 25 year old male" doesn't mean I'm not a 25 year old male.
Wine may not bother to duplicate the environment that an application runs in, but it still meets the definition (from the American Heritage dictionary) of emulate.
To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated.
To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with.
Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
I personally wish Linus would break binary modules much more often.
If there's a valid to change the API and break binary modules, then I'm all for it. If, however, it's being done to just make it difficult for others... Well, if I wanted to put up with that kind of crap, I'd stick with MS.
Dinivin
Re:He SHOULD care about the competition...
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You're assuming he considers the other competition the enemy. Why should he? He develops linux because he enjoys it, and something tells me he'd continue to develop linux regardless of what the competition is doing.
Wow... You had to recompile your kernel, got it wrong 4-5 times, and lost sound support in an effort to get 3d going? Funny, all I did was download some tarballs from the Matrox website, type make install, and restarted X.
Dinivin
Re:In case you didn't notice their home page...
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Well, given that 3dfx cards (and their linux drivers) were never all that great to begin with (under XFree86 4.*) when 3dfx was alive, I certainly wouldn't expect them to be any better now that 3dfx is dead.
You know, you wouldn't look like such a fool if you had read the article and realized that they're talking about the AOL protocol, not the AIM protocol.
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More than likely it was a user error that caused the problem...
Personally, I find that to be fairly pathetic that a boot loader is doing something can crash it.
Yeah, because LILO never has that happen. I'm sure no one has ever seen a computer get stuck at "L" or "LI" or "LIL". That never happens, right?
Dinivin
del ta'ic or del'tic adj.
So what does a river delta have to do with your bad spelling?
Dinivin
Let's give credit where it is due... The actual quote is: "I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows."
It's from The Simpson's episode Screaming Yellow Honkers (aka. Marge Simpson in 'Screaming Yellow Honkers').
Dinivin
Well, it depend on a lot of things.. Did they just delete those 50 mp3s, or did they wipe your entire drive (which you still couldn't sue them over, unless the damages were more than $5,000)?
Dinivin
That doesn't check if found mp3s are legal or not. Theirs would have to do that,
Why? Remember, if the cost of damages is less than $5,000 (and how many people could prove that it was more?), there would be no legal recourse.
Dinivin
How is this a good thing?
How is the fact that the RIAA backed down a good thing? You've got to be kidding, right?
Dinivin
Try to keep up... The article Timothy posted was about the fact that the RIAA wanted the right to hack in. This article has to do with the RIAA backing down from their earlier position.
Dinivin
Hey, if the WINE developers want to look foolish by denying the obvious, that's up to them. I, however, would rather accept the truth.
Dinivin
Now, if you don't think Wine is an emulator, please post a definition of emulate for which Wine doesn't qualify.
Still no response. I guess that means you couldn't come up with one.
Dinivin
Well, at least I'm not the only one to realize that saying Wine is not an emulator is denying the obvious.
Dinivin
The FAQ also says it doesn't emulate the environment. Twit.
It's wrong... It's not like FAQs are always 100% correct.
It lets win32 programs run, not by interpreting their system calls, or fooling them that they're running on Windows, but by simply providing the libraries that would be there.
So it duplicates the environment (the DLLs) necessary to run a win32 application. It emulates. Wow, what a concept.
Now, if you don't think Wine is an emulator, please post a definition of emulate for which Wine doesn't qualify.
Dinivin
The wine FAQ says it isn't an emulator. And you are arguing that that proves it is?
According to a post above (from hawkfan) the FAQ gives a definition of emulator, which Wine happens to meet. This is not a difficult concept. WINE duplicates the environment that a win32 application runs in.
There is nothing actually being emulated in wine. It consists of an executable loader - like the native linux loader, but works with win32 code -, and a shared library - which is a reimplementation of something that already exists.
In other words, it duplicates an environment that already exists, right? Therefore, it an emulator! See how that works?
Dinivin
Has it occurred to you that the dictionary definition might be wrong? Of course not,
As I mentioned already (and you apparently missed), the definition posted previously in this thread by hawkfan (taken from the the Wine FAQ) actually shows how Wine qualifies as an emulator. Not that there's anything wrong with being an emulator, but it seems somewhat pointless to deny this simply fact.
Dinivin
Wine duplicates the Win32 environment (the dll's) that Win32 applications need to run. That definately meets the very definition posted by hawkfan earlier in this thread (apparently from the Wine FAQ).
Dinivin
You essentially say "if library B duplicates functionality of library A, the library B is an emulator of library A."
I'm not saying it. The definition of emulate says that.
Dinivin
Then Windows 2000 & Windows XP are emulators
:-) However, I see nothing in the definition of emulator that says it has to run on each and every platform, so you're argument basically falls flat on its face.
If you want to make that argument, then go for it.
IF WINE was a emulator, it could be re-compiled to work with PPC Linux or Alpha (thats a CPU platform, now 64bit, that was developed by Digital cum Compaq & made by Samsung & Intel) Linux.
I'm well aware of what an Alpha is. I have a nice Mutlia that I use to heat my apartment during the winter
According to every definition of emulator that I've seen (including the one in a previous post that was from the WINE faq), WINE qualifies.
Dinivin
It's just a collection of libraries that do the same thing as their Win32 counterparts.
So, in other words, WINE is a collection of libraries that duplicates the functionality of their Win32 counterparts: ie. an emulator. Thanks for helping make my point. Dinivin
Just because I say "I'm not a 25 year old male" doesn't mean I'm not a 25 year old male.
Wine may not bother to duplicate the environment that an application runs in, but it still meets the definition (from the American Heritage dictionary) of emulate.
Dinivin
Bull...
emulate
tr.v. emulated, emulating, emulates
Sure sounds like an emulator to me.
Dinivin
Works on my system with Mdk 8.0.
Dinivin
I personally wish Linus would break binary modules much more often.
If there's a valid to change the API and break binary modules, then I'm all for it. If, however, it's being done to just make it difficult for others... Well, if I wanted to put up with that kind of crap, I'd stick with MS.
Dinivin
You're assuming he considers the other competition the enemy. Why should he? He develops linux because he enjoys it, and something tells me he'd continue to develop linux regardless of what the competition is doing.
Dinivin
Wow... You had to recompile your kernel, got it wrong 4-5 times, and lost sound support in an effort to get 3d going? Funny, all I did was download some tarballs from the Matrox website, type make install, and restarted X.
Dinivin
Well, given that 3dfx cards (and their linux drivers) were never all that great to begin with (under XFree86 4.*) when 3dfx was alive, I certainly wouldn't expect them to be any better now that 3dfx is dead.
Dinivin
You know, you wouldn't look like such a fool if you had read the article and realized that they're talking about the AOL protocol, not the AIM protocol.
Dinivin