i've laughed at all sorts of crude jokes in my life, but i've never endorsed any of them for general consumption. there is a difference between what you and your buddies say to each other in private and what society condones for mass consumption
if you have a game where hitting a women is a joke in and of itself, that's a piece of media that is telling people it is ok, even funny to hit a woman. that's a message people won't want to tolerate
you could still depict hitting a woman. just give the act a major consequence. something the funny the troglodytes can laugh at. but a message in media saying hitting women is silly, inconsequential, and even funny: no, sorry, that's wrong, in and of itself, no matter all the other issues you raise
there will be if duke nukem thinks hitting a woman is a silly joke. so it behooves the developers to make sure there isn't a backlash that other game developers will suffer for in future products and future regulations they don't want to deal with
all duke nukem has to do is make hitting a woman have very serious consequences. they can still depict it. make the consequences funny for the troglodytes. but it can't be communicated that hitting a woman has no consequences and is a funny inconsequential joke in and of itself
how do you type comfortably and fast without the tactile feedback? and whenever i type, maybe my fingers are just too large, i'm always making mistakes. yes, they are often corrected as i type via software, but i don't want to trust the machine to correct my intent. i want full integrity between the intentions of my fingers and what appears on screen, at a fast speed
then buy an iPad. you bought up the issue of screen quality, i'm simply making the point that that is not an absolute universal one-size-fits-all appraisal
teenagers are retards. they'll buy anything. they need to be educated. there's more in play here than the free market, there's teaching right and wrong
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
of course, the makers of duke nukem can release the game, making light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences. but this goes against a larger agenda. that agenda will be angered, and video games will be more tightly controlled? do you want that? however, if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok, because it fits with the agenda: hitting a woman is wrong, its not a joke
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences. make as many jokes as you want
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences. therefore its ok
however, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, the message has to get across loud and clear, on all channels: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this genuine real world problem will not be tolerated
shooting aliens with RPGs? not so much of a real world problem. make all the jokes you want
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
0.01% of the game playing public is ever going to pick up an RPG. 0% will meet aliens
however, 90% will be in a domestic situation some point in their life where physical violence crosses their minds
you know, you could, in fact, depict a man hitting a woman in media if that man gets a comeuppance for that behavior. but what you can't do is have a man hitting a woman, just for fun, without any consequences
society is trying to teach that men who hit women are wrong. we can't be loosey goosey with the message. we don't need media that goes against the lesson plan. society has an agenda to decrease domestic violence. many cops die responding to domestic situations, and it wastes a lot of their time, and your tax dollars. so society has very good reasons to look very disapprovingly on media that depicts a man hitting a woman without any consequences, just for a sight gag
because men hitting women is a huge social problem, not a silly sight gag. meanwhile, society really doesn't have a problem with guys running around firing RPGs at aliens. so that violent fiction, not a problem
i understand the difference. i hope you understand that whether real, or just depicted in media, society has a problem with a man hitting a woman
that's not even to say that you can't hit women in media, ever. for example, you could have a man hit a woman in a story, and that man eventually gets a comeuppance for his bad behavior. that's ok, it shows that society does not approve
but what's not ok, according to society, not just me (and no i'm not a spokesman, i'm just interpreting the brain dead obvious about what most people think for the few here who have some sort of social defect that they can't understand this on their own), is that just the DEPICTION of a man who hits a woman, just for shits and giggles, without any consequences, like we have here, is unacceptable
i can't use a smart phone without a physical keyboard, and i sure as heck won't ever buy a tablet when i can get the same features, with a keyboard, for less money
i'm motivated by outrage at how ignorant your words are about the subject of relative domestic freedoms in the usa versus china or cuba or iran
there are a number of americans who will engage in the false equivalency you do, and it makes me very angry, because these are people who have not even the slightest clue about how bad things can be in terms of freedom of political expression in other countries as compared to the usa
i am angered by your ignorance, and i would really like to see you admit how incredibly wrong your thinking is on the subject
here's a fake 911 call story that will blow your mind: cops faking a 911 call, so they would be dispatched near where they knew a drunken woman was they wanted to rape:
if someone calls 911 because they want help figuring out their taxes or wants to complain about the neighbors dog pooping on their lawn, they need to be fined, with jail time for those who can't seem to get the message. and jail time for those who purposefully prank 911. an exemption for toddlers who call 911, and elderly who might be confused, is in order, of course
but otherwise nonemergency concerns are wasting operator's time and putting people with genuine time-critical needs in mortal danger
of course women hit men. however, men do most of the hitting, and way more of those hits wind up putting someone in the hospital or morgue. thus, it is entirely logical to focus on the wrongness of men hitting women
but the funny part is, you apparently want to be politically correct about women and men hitting each other... commenting under a story which is all about championing very un-pc videogame content
so if you are so concerned with political correctness, you want this women slapping content removed, right? you're the one concerned with being politically correct, right?
and we've found less violence towards women to be a lofty goal, and we've found smacking women in videogames to be against that goal, so we're going to deny it
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i've laughed at all sorts of crude jokes in my life, but i've never endorsed any of them for general consumption. there is a difference between what you and your buddies say to each other in private and what society condones for mass consumption
you're telling me domestic violence isn't wrong?
LOL. i thought you were the same ;-) we are both getting too trigger happy, too many holier-than-thou techies around
cheers
if you have a game where hitting a women is a joke in and of itself, that's a piece of media that is telling people it is ok, even funny to hit a woman. that's a message people won't want to tolerate
you could still depict hitting a woman. just give the act a major consequence. something the funny the troglodytes can laugh at. but a message in media saying hitting women is silly, inconsequential, and even funny: no, sorry, that's wrong, in and of itself, no matter all the other issues you raise
there will be if duke nukem thinks hitting a woman is a silly joke. so it behooves the developers to make sure there isn't a backlash that other game developers will suffer for in future products and future regulations they don't want to deal with
all duke nukem has to do is make hitting a woman have very serious consequences. they can still depict it. make the consequences funny for the troglodytes. but it can't be communicated that hitting a woman has no consequences and is a funny inconsequential joke in and of itself
domestic violence is a serious problem. most of it is done by men. it's simply not funny
how do you type comfortably and fast without the tactile feedback? and whenever i type, maybe my fingers are just too large, i'm always making mistakes. yes, they are often corrected as i type via software, but i don't want to trust the machine to correct my intent. i want full integrity between the intentions of my fingers and what appears on screen, at a fast speed
then buy an iPad. you bought up the issue of screen quality, i'm simply making the point that that is not an absolute universal one-size-fits-all appraisal
are you sitting by the pool in the midday sun?
blah blah blah
men mostly hit women
men mostly need to be told that that is wrong
duh
teenagers are retards. they'll buy anything. they need to be educated. there's more in play here than the free market, there's teaching right and wrong
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
of course, the makers of duke nukem can release the game, making light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences. but this goes against a larger agenda. that agenda will be angered, and video games will be more tightly controlled? do you want that? however, if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok, because it fits with the agenda: hitting a woman is wrong, its not a joke
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences. make as many jokes as you want
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences. therefore its ok
however, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, the message has to get across loud and clear, on all channels: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this genuine real world problem will not be tolerated
shooting aliens with RPGs? not so much of a real world problem. make all the jokes you want
get the difference?
society is currently engaged in a many decade, ongoing effort to teach people things like drunk driving is wrong. domestic violence is wrong. do you know how many cops die breaking up domestic situations? how much time and money is wasted? your money? we need to get the lesson across that violence between men and women in a domestic situation is extremely wrong, and we need to get that message across loud and clear. certain media that doesn't get with that program, meanwhile, needs to be squelched
society doesn't have a problem with guys running around in reality firing RPGs at aliens. therefore this violent fiction has no consequences
however, as society tries hard to get the word out that domestic violence is a very bad thing, certain media that makes light of a man hitting a woman as a joke, a sight gag, with no consequences, this goes against a larger agenda. if in duke nukem hitting a woman results in some sort of consequence, that it wasn't just a dumb sight gag: that would be ok
but hitting women as a subject matter can't be taken lightly in any media. not because i'm an uptight prude. but because it's a real problem society is trying to deal with, so the message has to get across loud and clear: hitting women is a no-no, its unacceptable, and any media that makes light of this real problem will not be tolerated
0.01% of the game playing public is ever going to pick up an RPG. 0% will meet aliens
however, 90% will be in a domestic situation some point in their life where physical violence crosses their minds
you know, you could, in fact, depict a man hitting a woman in media if that man gets a comeuppance for that behavior. but what you can't do is have a man hitting a woman, just for fun, without any consequences
society is trying to teach that men who hit women are wrong. we can't be loosey goosey with the message. we don't need media that goes against the lesson plan. society has an agenda to decrease domestic violence. many cops die responding to domestic situations, and it wastes a lot of their time, and your tax dollars. so society has very good reasons to look very disapprovingly on media that depicts a man hitting a woman without any consequences, just for a sight gag
because men hitting women is a huge social problem, not a silly sight gag. meanwhile, society really doesn't have a problem with guys running around firing RPGs at aliens. so that violent fiction, not a problem
what you're looking for is a kindle, if a display that is kindest to human eyes is your concern
i understand the difference. i hope you understand that whether real, or just depicted in media, society has a problem with a man hitting a woman
that's not even to say that you can't hit women in media, ever. for example, you could have a man hit a woman in a story, and that man eventually gets a comeuppance for his bad behavior. that's ok, it shows that society does not approve
but what's not ok, according to society, not just me (and no i'm not a spokesman, i'm just interpreting the brain dead obvious about what most people think for the few here who have some sort of social defect that they can't understand this on their own), is that just the DEPICTION of a man who hits a woman, just for shits and giggles, without any consequences, like we have here, is unacceptable
i can't use a smart phone without a physical keyboard, and i sure as heck won't ever buy a tablet when i can get the same features, with a keyboard, for less money
i'm motivated by outrage at how ignorant your words are about the subject of relative domestic freedoms in the usa versus china or cuba or iran
there are a number of americans who will engage in the false equivalency you do, and it makes me very angry, because these are people who have not even the slightest clue about how bad things can be in terms of freedom of political expression in other countries as compared to the usa
i am angered by your ignorance, and i would really like to see you admit how incredibly wrong your thinking is on the subject
here's a fake 911 call story that will blow your mind: cops faking a 911 call, so they would be dispatched near where they knew a drunken woman was they wanted to rape:
http://gothamist.com/2009/05/03/cops_made_fake_911_call_to_return_t.php
once you understand that society doesn't like men hitting women, i believe you'll find that you have a problem where you think there is none
if someone calls 911 because they want help figuring out their taxes or wants to complain about the neighbors dog pooping on their lawn, they need to be fined, with jail time for those who can't seem to get the message. and jail time for those who purposefully prank 911. an exemption for toddlers who call 911, and elderly who might be confused, is in order, of course
but otherwise nonemergency concerns are wasting operator's time and putting people with genuine time-critical needs in mortal danger
of course women hit men. however, men do most of the hitting, and way more of those hits wind up putting someone in the hospital or morgue. thus, it is entirely logical to focus on the wrongness of men hitting women
but the funny part is, you apparently want to be politically correct about women and men hitting each other... commenting under a story which is all about championing very un-pc videogame content
so if you are so concerned with political correctness, you want this women slapping content removed, right? you're the one concerned with being politically correct, right?
irony
i can't
society and majority opinion can
and we've found less violence towards women to be a lofty goal, and we've found smacking women in videogames to be against that goal, so we're going to deny it
deal with it, "tough guy"