that cs lewis quote sucks, it is logically unsound
1. it presents a false choice, as if there are only two kinds of government possible, when in truth there are thousands of kinds, many of which have nothing whatsoever to do with the two archetypes cs lewis says we are forced to choose between
2. you cannot satiate a tyrant. when he has 4 palaces and 3 gold toilets, he will want 8 palaces and 6 gold toilets. selfishness and greed know no bounds. that's not to say that the patronizing condescending moralist who wants to tell you how to live for "your own good" can be satiated either. it is simply to say neither type of asshole can be satiated, and to say one can and the other can't is extremely lame
in all honesty, cs lewis is a moron to imagine some sort of limitation exists on the desires of robber barons. and to construct such a contrived logically incoherent pile of crap as that quote above to justify to us that we should be content living as slaves under the moneyed classes is frankly ignorant and repulsive, and a good reason to hate cs lewis for bad intention and faulty thinking abilities
thank you for creating in me a new strong dislike of cs lewis, for his logically flawed, bad intentioned thinking in that disgusting quote. what an asshole
it is why we have courts. it is why we have government
if everyone were their own policeman, judge, jury, and executioner, injustice would increase, not decrease, even with good intent, because of simple miscommunication
which is why increased gun ownership in peacetime civil society is a gateway to more injustice, not a salvation from it, and why libertarianism will never work: individuals are often confused, and some have bad intent. you need society to be regulated and made secure by a government structure that can be held accountable, and you need to pay for it. the alternative is simply worse
we need government to save us from ourselves: take all of the abuses of every government that ever existed, and guess what: the abuses of the individual are far worse. whether simple petty crime, white collar crime, or well intentioned but confused effort, individuals are worse than governments, when given no structure, no security, and no regulation
i fear my fellow man far more than i fear my government
and i will probably be flamed for saying all of this, but i don't care, bring it on. i like being the one who says the ugly truths about the world that no one wants to admit
you don't have to feed all of your data to the beast called facebook anymore
you can feed it to the beast called google
you can still dutifully log all of the pointless insipid details of your life to a vast database for tracking and advertising purposes, just like before, but under a new corporate master
torture the dummy on a rack and with manacles, draw the dummy behind a horse on the ground, hang it, resuscitate it shortly before dying, get it up on a ladder (as not deserving of heaven or earth), cut off its genitals and burn them in front of the dummy's eyes to see, disembowel the dummy, cut out its heart, decapitate it, cut it into four pieces, then distribute the four pieces to the four corners of the kingdom to display in the air as a warning, and make sure the birds eat it all
People like Fawkes because he tried to blow a lot of shit up. That's it, that's all the appeal.
There is no appeal to reason or intelligence with who Fawkes was or what he stood for, there's no ideological affinity. People get angry at government, for valid and invalid reasons, and fantasies of just blowing all of it to kingdom come makes Fawkes a folk hero in that way, and that way only. All people know is that he tried to bomb the whole government, that's good enough for them.
There's no analysis or intelligence to who Fawkes was or what he fought for other than: how many barrels of gunpowder was he using and what the fireball would have looked like. Its a visceral, emotional appeal.
Come to think of it, it would make the most awesome Mythbusters episode ever, to explore the potential/ lack thereof to the success of Fakes' scheme.
sir, all you have done is try to redefine what slavery means. that's useless and retarded
people are poor for a variety of reasons. and poverty does place limitations on some of your freedoms. but a poor working person is NOT a slave. really. to explain to you exactly why a poor working person is not a slave would be to stoop to a level of intellectual charity that is beyond me
the poor suffer injustices, the poor need to have social justice in their name. persistent socioeconomic inequalities in all societies continue to keep the deserving down, and the undeserving up. yes, yes, and yes
but the working poor ARE NOT SLAVES. really, idiot. you cannot simply redefine terminology and think you have any valuable thoughts. you did this before when you tried to redefine what totalitarianism means. if you read my critique of your comments in that comment above in this thread, you will see that what i am saying to you is that you don't help anything in this world if you don't even understand the concepts you are working with. you apply concepts like slavery and totalitarianism randomly and without proper meaning, and you think you have said anything useful? no, you just sound like a moron who doesn't understand what they are talking about, and you certainly don't help the poor with your ignorance
i never even remotely suggested anything of what you are writing, nor can you even creatively extrapolate the meaning you are indicating, from my words. yet you write this bullshit about hitler as if it is a straight line between my words and this bullshit about hitler
for example, you bought up slavery before. is slavery really still an acceptable practice?
your whole way of thinking seems to indicate you don't believe in progress. i believe in progress. no, i don't believe in it, i know it to be real
you meanwhile strike me as someone who only sees stasis in the world. this makes your worldview logically incoherent, because your base assumptions about human nature and world history are simply demonstrably wrong
"it is always repeating itself"
no history does not repeat itself, it goes through cycl.es, and those cycles change over time. such that, on the grand scale of things social progress is real: slavery, racism, women's rights, civil rights, etc.: compared to roman times, there is a long term movement away from bad practices. really
your simply just another hopeless helpless type of person. your view of human nature is dark, and brutal, when this is simply not true. of course there are dark and brutal parts. but there are bright parts too
what a dreary mind you must have, i'd hate to inhabit it
i'm well read on history, i understand history, and it informs my opinions. what i am not doing is busy fighting the dead conflicts from history, nor am i stuck in history in my thinking. that seems to be your problem
uh.... what does hitler have to do with what i said? you seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive failure, where you see some meaning in my words that is not really there
you seem to be having an argument with yourself. you are defining sex in a narrow way, probably a way that applies to you. sex has other meanings and contexts other than those you delineate above
so go, work out your issues with sex. right now and right here you just seem to be having an open ended argument about a conflict which only exists inside your head, and we are somehow supposed to fit into these predetermined molds you are describing about how sex is digested psychologically. but there are many more ways sex can fit into someone's life other than the ways you describe. you either lack imagination or experience in that regard
in short, what you are doing is called projecting: casting an internal argument of your own onto external people, probably, subconsciously, to see how we deal with a conflict you yourself find hard to resolve
it is impossible to award a peace prize that isn't political. the process of peace is inherently about human conflict and the resolution of that conflict. that very process is called politics. you cannot separate the concept of politics and the concept of peace, making peace is nothing more than good politics, by definition
in other words, the more contentious and disputed the peace prize, the more valid the peace prize. because interests vested against a peace will be angered at the symbolism in the prize. and the greater those interests, the greater the conflict, and therefore the greater the potential peace at hand. so the awards committee chose very well this year
the libertarians would consider the regulatory and law enforcement infrastructure to catch and punish the stalker to be intrusive expensive bureaucracy our taxes shouldn't pay for
additionally, they would insist on taking justice in their own hands, since every yahoo with a gun is a perfect judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to matter of justice
libertarianism is mirror image of communism: equally foolish and equally destructive. communism's folly is altruism conquers all. libertarianism's folly is selfishness conquers all. both mirror image ideologies fail, because true human nature is both altruistic and selfish at the same time, like two sides of a coin. the only effective ideology in this world is one which reflects the nature of the humans you are attempting to foist it on: a moderate mix, not an extreme like communism or libertarianism. socialism with a capitalist engine, or capitalism with socialist safety nets: these are the ideal ideologies. moderation is the king. all other ideologies fail
i also understand that you are stuck in the past, fighting the waning power of the usa, when if you were smart, you would realize the middle kingdom is your new master
maybe after you are done defeating the usa, maybe you can dismantle the british empire too
there are no societal norms about what goes on in the bedroom, because society isn't in your bedroom. there are societal norms about workplace behavior, telephone etiquette, driving rules, etc: arenas in life that involve public social interaction
but what happens in the privacy of your own bedroom is something society has nothing to do with, knows nothing about, and has no moral or logical reason to know about or judge. the whole purpose to society and morality is to govern our behavior in civil situations. in private, there are no norms to follow save what you want to do and what you don't want to do. if you don't want to do something, don't do it. if someone forces you to do something in the bedroom, THEN you have reason to complain publicly, as your right to freedom and equality has just been violated. otherwise, society has no right or reason to judge or interfere
i was going to make a snide joke: how can a private eye spy on a guy in a dark basement room with no windows, who doesn't eat, sleep or use the bathroom (real WoW payers use Depends!)
but then i thought: if you are playing WoW instead of going to work today, you really are suffering from a kind of sickness, aren't you?
and therefore, you are using your sick day appropriately
"you are living in the early stages of a new roman empire, unless its thwarted"
blah blah blah united states united states
moron: have you ever heard of china?
in 20 years all major corporations in the world be owned by banks in beijing. you keep babbling about the usa, as if this were 1990. it's 2010, moron, the usa is second class, china is the new king
like i said before, your obsession with the usa blinds you, completely
but you go on with your bad self. you keep up the brave fight against the usa. go dude! rah rah rah! down with the usa! down with the usa!
WHATEVER. it makes absolutely no difference. you make absolutely no difference. because you freaking don't understand the world you live in
your "knowledge" of history doesn't enlighten you, it entraps you in historical stasis, fighting the wars of yesterday. you're an anachronistic fool
me, i'm going to pledge my highest most noble fight to the downfall of the ottoman empire! and then we are going to dismantle the USSR! after that, i think we should pledge our highest ideological purpose to the destruction of imperial japan!
Rouge Two: [the Y-wings are running the gauntlet toward the Death Star reactor-port] The guns - they've stopped! Rouge Five: [realizes why] Stabilize your rear deflectors... Watch for enemy fighters. Rouge Leader: They're coming in! Three marks at 2-10! [Rouge Two is slain by Darth Vader and his wingmen; Rouge Leader starts to panic] Rouge Leader: It's no good, I can't maneuver! Rouge Five: Stay on target. Rouge Leader: *We're too close!* Rouge Five: Stay on target! Rouge Leader: [shouts] Loosen up! [he too is picked off by Vader and Company; Rouge Five tries to escape but is fatally winged] Rouge Five: Rouge Five to Red leader, lost Tiree, lost Dutch. Red Leader: I copy, Rouge Leader. Rouge Five: It came from... behind!
why has a 200 year old country come to dominate the world?
for a certain set of values, yes, that's the reason. a set of values you dislike. that's ok, you don't have to like them
except your problem is that any country that weakens in its competition with the usa starts making up for its lagging credentials by BECOMING MORE LIKE THE USA
look at china: "this communism thing makes us weak. i know, let's marry our autocratic government with predatorial capitalism, usa style, and beat the usa thatways"
and so china does
you, or your children, or your grandchildren, will not live in a world dominated by the usa. most probably, it will be a china. and worst of all, everyone else will be playing catch up to china to become more like them to compete on the same terms... more internally autocratic terms. more TOTALITARIAN terms
your folly is you believe the clock can be turned back to some set of weaker values in this world. its simply impossible. he who adapts the most effective set of values, dominates the world. and so your position is folly, because you don't understand that the usa is not your enemy, your enemy is the evolution of a more effective set of values in the human social system itself. for you, the usa is an obsession, a cypher, for something deeper that is your real enemy. and for not understanding that, you get no nearer to your own goals for the world you live in. you only drown in red herrings, false causes. for you, it is to fight the usa. go ahead, go on with your bad self. it changes nothing about what you really care about, because you don't understand the world
now, make believe the usa disappeared into a lake tomorrow
do you believe anything you have written in your list of the crimes of the usa would stop?
#1: if the usa aids a government or a faction operating in a foreign country, that government or faction will still exist, and still perpetrate those crimes
#2: russia, china, india, brazil... other countries besides the usa are meddling in foreign governments just as much as the usa
you only hold the usa guilty for what every country does. you don't see that the crimes you hate the usa for are really the crimes of all governments
if the usa disappears, nothing changes about every crime you dislike. the foreign factions the usa supports will not collapse, because they are not solely the puppets of the usa. they have domestic support, within the countries they operate in. sure, some factions may lose if the usa disappears. probably because the factions they fight, still enjoy the support of china, or iran, or russia, etc. but you don't hold those other countries also guilty of foreign meddling. you only hold the usa guilty. why is that?
crimes that are committed by partisans in other countries may enjoy the support of the usa. or maybe another country. or maybe no foreign support at all, you just believe the usa supports them, because it fits your low iq fanciful prejudices
every country in the world messes internally with every other country. as soon as you understand that, you may continue to prosecute the usa for its crimes... and russia, and china, etc... if it is in your interest to be intellectually honest and adhere to your principles
rather than atavistically single out and hate the usa alone, for simple common tribal prejudicial reasons that makes you a person of no value in this world, since people who think simplistically and tribally like you are a dime a dozen, whether for or against the usa. the tribal idiots balance each other out in this world. only people with genuine principles, who adhere to them logically and internally in the words they write, only such people matter in this world. you are obviously not such a person, because you only prosecute the usa for crimes which are not unique to the usa, nor even obviously the cause of the usa. you only have creative and fanciful and dumb ways of explaining why certain things are solely the cause of the usa, just because the usa supports a faction, gives them aid, or even just talks to them: suddenly the usa is completely culpable for every bad thing that faction does. and then you ignore what russia, china, etc. are doing internationally. insanity and stupidity
that cs lewis quote sucks, it is logically unsound
1. it presents a false choice, as if there are only two kinds of government possible, when in truth there are thousands of kinds, many of which have nothing whatsoever to do with the two archetypes cs lewis says we are forced to choose between
2. you cannot satiate a tyrant. when he has 4 palaces and 3 gold toilets, he will want 8 palaces and 6 gold toilets. selfishness and greed know no bounds. that's not to say that the patronizing condescending moralist who wants to tell you how to live for "your own good" can be satiated either. it is simply to say neither type of asshole can be satiated, and to say one can and the other can't is extremely lame
in all honesty, cs lewis is a moron to imagine some sort of limitation exists on the desires of robber barons. and to construct such a contrived logically incoherent pile of crap as that quote above to justify to us that we should be content living as slaves under the moneyed classes is frankly ignorant and repulsive, and a good reason to hate cs lewis for bad intention and faulty thinking abilities
thank you for creating in me a new strong dislike of cs lewis, for his logically flawed, bad intentioned thinking in that disgusting quote. what an asshole
and mob justice
it is why we have courts. it is why we have government
if everyone were their own policeman, judge, jury, and executioner, injustice would increase, not decrease, even with good intent, because of simple miscommunication
which is why increased gun ownership in peacetime civil society is a gateway to more injustice, not a salvation from it, and why libertarianism will never work: individuals are often confused, and some have bad intent. you need society to be regulated and made secure by a government structure that can be held accountable, and you need to pay for it. the alternative is simply worse
we need government to save us from ourselves: take all of the abuses of every government that ever existed, and guess what: the abuses of the individual are far worse. whether simple petty crime, white collar crime, or well intentioned but confused effort, individuals are worse than governments, when given no structure, no security, and no regulation
i fear my fellow man far more than i fear my government
and i will probably be flamed for saying all of this, but i don't care, bring it on. i like being the one who says the ugly truths about the world that no one wants to admit
the gay male couple can have only one kind of daughter genetically, and two kinds of sons genetically
X1Y1 + X2Y2 -> X1X2/ X1Y2/ X2Y1
but a gay female couple can have 4 kinds of daughters genetically
X1X2 + X3X4 -> X1X3/ X1X4/ X2X3/ X2X4
(excluding straight up clones, only considering recombination)
you don't have to feed all of your data to the beast called facebook anymore
you can feed it to the beast called google
you can still dutifully log all of the pointless insipid details of your life to a vast database for tracking and advertising purposes, just like before, but under a new corporate master
yay
i was aiming for humor, really
sorry!
lost in translation
hey, make the celebration more authentic
torture the dummy on a rack and with manacles, draw the dummy behind a horse on the ground, hang it, resuscitate it shortly before dying, get it up on a ladder (as not deserving of heaven or earth), cut off its genitals and burn them in front of the dummy's eyes to see, disembowel the dummy, cut out its heart, decapitate it, cut it into four pieces, then distribute the four pieces to the four corners of the kingdom to display in the air as a warning, and make sure the birds eat it all
ah you british and your quaint customs
People like Fawkes because he tried to blow a lot of shit up. That's it, that's all the appeal.
There is no appeal to reason or intelligence with who Fawkes was or what he stood for, there's no ideological affinity. People get angry at government, for valid and invalid reasons, and fantasies of just blowing all of it to kingdom come makes Fawkes a folk hero in that way, and that way only. All people know is that he tried to bomb the whole government, that's good enough for them.
There's no analysis or intelligence to who Fawkes was or what he fought for other than: how many barrels of gunpowder was he using and what the fireball would have looked like. Its a visceral, emotional appeal.
Come to think of it, it would make the most awesome Mythbusters episode ever, to explore the potential/ lack thereof to the success of Fakes' scheme.
could have daughters or sons
XY+XY -> XY/XX
but a gay female couple can only have daughters
XX+XX -> XX
sir, all you have done is try to redefine what slavery means. that's useless and retarded
people are poor for a variety of reasons. and poverty does place limitations on some of your freedoms. but a poor working person is NOT a slave. really. to explain to you exactly why a poor working person is not a slave would be to stoop to a level of intellectual charity that is beyond me
the poor suffer injustices, the poor need to have social justice in their name. persistent socioeconomic inequalities in all societies continue to keep the deserving down, and the undeserving up. yes, yes, and yes
but the working poor ARE NOT SLAVES. really, idiot. you cannot simply redefine terminology and think you have any valuable thoughts. you did this before when you tried to redefine what totalitarianism means. if you read my critique of your comments in that comment above in this thread, you will see that what i am saying to you is that you don't help anything in this world if you don't even understand the concepts you are working with. you apply concepts like slavery and totalitarianism randomly and without proper meaning, and you think you have said anything useful? no, you just sound like a moron who doesn't understand what they are talking about, and you certainly don't help the poor with your ignorance
i see. you think that we are still slaves
of course, if i were to deny that, you would say i am one of the deceived
i see where this is going: you're a grade a certified wackjob
of course, you will dismiss my judgment of your insanity as the words of one of the horribly deceived
(rolls eyes)
adios, moron
i never even remotely suggested anything of what you are writing, nor can you even creatively extrapolate the meaning you are indicating, from my words. yet you write this bullshit about hitler as if it is a straight line between my words and this bullshit about hitler
do you have reading comprehension problems?
let me ask you a question: does progress exist?
for example, you bought up slavery before. is slavery really still an acceptable practice?
your whole way of thinking seems to indicate you don't believe in progress. i believe in progress. no, i don't believe in it, i know it to be real
you meanwhile strike me as someone who only sees stasis in the world. this makes your worldview logically incoherent, because your base assumptions about human nature and world history are simply demonstrably wrong
"it is always repeating itself"
no history does not repeat itself, it goes through cycl.es, and those cycles change over time. such that, on the grand scale of things social progress is real: slavery, racism, women's rights, civil rights, etc.: compared to roman times, there is a long term movement away from bad practices. really
your simply just another hopeless helpless type of person. your view of human nature is dark, and brutal, when this is simply not true. of course there are dark and brutal parts. but there are bright parts too
what a dreary mind you must have, i'd hate to inhabit it
i think it was late at night, on one of cartoon network's adult swim shows
i'm well read on history, i understand history, and it informs my opinions. what i am not doing is busy fighting the dead conflicts from history, nor am i stuck in history in my thinking. that seems to be your problem
uh.... what does hitler have to do with what i said? you seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive failure, where you see some meaning in my words that is not really there
you seem to be having an argument with yourself. you are defining sex in a narrow way, probably a way that applies to you. sex has other meanings and contexts other than those you delineate above
so go, work out your issues with sex. right now and right here you just seem to be having an open ended argument about a conflict which only exists inside your head, and we are somehow supposed to fit into these predetermined molds you are describing about how sex is digested psychologically. but there are many more ways sex can fit into someone's life other than the ways you describe. you either lack imagination or experience in that regard
in short, what you are doing is called projecting: casting an internal argument of your own onto external people, probably, subconsciously, to see how we deal with a conflict you yourself find hard to resolve
it is impossible to award a peace prize that isn't political. the process of peace is inherently about human conflict and the resolution of that conflict. that very process is called politics. you cannot separate the concept of politics and the concept of peace, making peace is nothing more than good politics, by definition
in other words, the more contentious and disputed the peace prize, the more valid the peace prize. because interests vested against a peace will be angered at the symbolism in the prize. and the greater those interests, the greater the conflict, and therefore the greater the potential peace at hand. so the awards committee chose very well this year
the libertarians would consider the regulatory and law enforcement infrastructure to catch and punish the stalker to be intrusive expensive bureaucracy our taxes shouldn't pay for
additionally, they would insist on taking justice in their own hands, since every yahoo with a gun is a perfect judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to matter of justice
libertarianism is mirror image of communism: equally foolish and equally destructive. communism's folly is altruism conquers all. libertarianism's folly is selfishness conquers all. both mirror image ideologies fail, because true human nature is both altruistic and selfish at the same time, like two sides of a coin. the only effective ideology in this world is one which reflects the nature of the humans you are attempting to foist it on: a moderate mix, not an extreme like communism or libertarianism. socialism with a capitalist engine, or capitalism with socialist safety nets: these are the ideal ideologies. moderation is the king. all other ideologies fail
i understand the history of the roman empire
i also understand that you are stuck in the past, fighting the waning power of the usa, when if you were smart, you would realize the middle kingdom is your new master
maybe after you are done defeating the usa, maybe you can dismantle the british empire too
pffffffffft
there are no societal norms about what goes on in the bedroom, because society isn't in your bedroom. there are societal norms about workplace behavior, telephone etiquette, driving rules, etc: arenas in life that involve public social interaction
but what happens in the privacy of your own bedroom is something society has nothing to do with, knows nothing about, and has no moral or logical reason to know about or judge. the whole purpose to society and morality is to govern our behavior in civil situations. in private, there are no norms to follow save what you want to do and what you don't want to do. if you don't want to do something, don't do it. if someone forces you to do something in the bedroom, THEN you have reason to complain publicly, as your right to freedom and equality has just been violated. otherwise, society has no right or reason to judge or interfere
i was going to make a snide joke: how can a private eye spy on a guy in a dark basement room with no windows, who doesn't eat, sleep or use the bathroom (real WoW payers use Depends!)
but then i thought: if you are playing WoW instead of going to work today, you really are suffering from a kind of sickness, aren't you?
and therefore, you are using your sick day appropriately
"you are living in the early stages of a new roman empire, unless its thwarted"
blah blah blah united states united states
moron: have you ever heard of china?
in 20 years all major corporations in the world be owned by banks in beijing. you keep babbling about the usa, as if this were 1990. it's 2010, moron, the usa is second class, china is the new king
like i said before, your obsession with the usa blinds you, completely
but you go on with your bad self. you keep up the brave fight against the usa. go dude! rah rah rah! down with the usa! down with the usa!
WHATEVER. it makes absolutely no difference. you make absolutely no difference. because you freaking don't understand the world you live in
your "knowledge" of history doesn't enlighten you, it entraps you in historical stasis, fighting the wars of yesterday. you're an anachronistic fool
me, i'm going to pledge my highest most noble fight to the downfall of the ottoman empire! and then we are going to dismantle the USSR! after that, i think we should pledge our highest ideological purpose to the destruction of imperial japan!
LOL
what a moron
let me tell you a dark secret:
why has a 200 year old country come to dominate the world?
for a certain set of values, yes, that's the reason. a set of values you dislike. that's ok, you don't have to like them
except your problem is that any country that weakens in its competition with the usa starts making up for its lagging credentials by BECOMING MORE LIKE THE USA
look at china: "this communism thing makes us weak. i know, let's marry our autocratic government with predatorial capitalism, usa style, and beat the usa thatways"
and so china does
you, or your children, or your grandchildren, will not live in a world dominated by the usa. most probably, it will be a china. and worst of all, everyone else will be playing catch up to china to become more like them to compete on the same terms... more internally autocratic terms. more TOTALITARIAN terms
your folly is you believe the clock can be turned back to some set of weaker values in this world. its simply impossible. he who adapts the most effective set of values, dominates the world. and so your position is folly, because you don't understand that the usa is not your enemy, your enemy is the evolution of a more effective set of values in the human social system itself. for you, the usa is an obsession, a cypher, for something deeper that is your real enemy. and for not understanding that, you get no nearer to your own goals for the world you live in. you only drown in red herrings, false causes. for you, it is to fight the usa. go ahead, go on with your bad self. it changes nothing about what you really care about, because you don't understand the world
as perpetrated in other countries
now, make believe the usa disappeared into a lake tomorrow
do you believe anything you have written in your list of the crimes of the usa would stop?
#1: if the usa aids a government or a faction operating in a foreign country, that government or faction will still exist, and still perpetrate those crimes
#2: russia, china, india, brazil... other countries besides the usa are meddling in foreign governments just as much as the usa
you only hold the usa guilty for what every country does. you don't see that the crimes you hate the usa for are really the crimes of all governments
if the usa disappears, nothing changes about every crime you dislike. the foreign factions the usa supports will not collapse, because they are not solely the puppets of the usa. they have domestic support, within the countries they operate in. sure, some factions may lose if the usa disappears. probably because the factions they fight, still enjoy the support of china, or iran, or russia, etc. but you don't hold those other countries also guilty of foreign meddling. you only hold the usa guilty. why is that?
crimes that are committed by partisans in other countries may enjoy the support of the usa. or maybe another country. or maybe no foreign support at all, you just believe the usa supports them, because it fits your low iq fanciful prejudices
every country in the world messes internally with every other country. as soon as you understand that, you may continue to prosecute the usa for its crimes... and russia, and china, etc... if it is in your interest to be intellectually honest and adhere to your principles
rather than atavistically single out and hate the usa alone, for simple common tribal prejudicial reasons that makes you a person of no value in this world, since people who think simplistically and tribally like you are a dime a dozen, whether for or against the usa. the tribal idiots balance each other out in this world. only people with genuine principles, who adhere to them logically and internally in the words they write, only such people matter in this world. you are obviously not such a person, because you only prosecute the usa for crimes which are not unique to the usa, nor even obviously the cause of the usa. you only have creative and fanciful and dumb ways of explaining why certain things are solely the cause of the usa, just because the usa supports a faction, gives them aid, or even just talks to them: suddenly the usa is completely culpable for every bad thing that faction does. and then you ignore what russia, china, etc. are doing internationally. insanity and stupidity