read the comment i am responding to above. i am responding to them. they seem to equate the crimes of the christian fundamentalists with that of the muslim fundamentalists. you could do that historically, but right now in this world, the balance is extremely in the direction of muslim fundamentalists. therefore, you have to give muslim fundamentalism, right now, much more focus and castigation. equating the two fundamentalists meanwhile is a sort of overactive political correctness that only serves to excuse the truly evil crimes that fundamentalists, of the musim flavor, are currently committing
i am refuting the idea that the problems with fundamentalism in the christian world (right now, not 150 years ago) are same as the problems with fundamentalism in the muslim world. no: the problems are the same KIND, but completely different MAGNITUDE. namely, that the muslim world has a much, much larger problem
i am merely destroying the idea that the problems with religion and state in the muslim world are the same as the problems with religion and state in the christian world. the problem exists in both worlds, but you are a fool or a liar if you don't understand that the problem in the muslim world is orders of magnitude worse
and they act in an unauthorized manner in rare insances on behalf of their religion. and?
as if this in any way has anything to do with the official policy, intent, goals, and purpose of the us military. the us military is concerned with the interests and agenda of the us government. if you cannot keep that separate from religion, you are simply making a fool of yourself
you'd be laughed at just as hard as if you told a muslim that saddam hussein's actions were because of islam. just because a country is majority islam or majority christian, the actions of the state has nothing to do with that, and in fact, is often at odds with the religion of the majority of its citizens
state!=religion
if you can't keep that straight, you're just a ridiculous fool
i think if you said what saddam hussein did was because of islam, any muslim would be equally insulted
you can't confuse what is done in the name of a government or a state with what is done in the name of religion and consider yourself a serious commentator on anything. you are merely demonstrating that you don't understand the subject matter
i am not familiar with christian suicide bombers regularly killing hundreds (of mostly other christians)
yes, there is timothy mcveigh. yes, all of the crimes you listed above are wrong
but it does no good to say "well, they jaywalk in the usa, so murder is ok in the muslim world": that's not a proportionate allegory, but you get my point: don't excuse the really really horrid status quo of abuses at the hands of religious nutbags in the muslim world by saying the western world also has some (far less fanged) christian fundamentalists
yes, some christian assholes are doing horrible things, and historically, have done things just as evil as in the muslim world. but in the muslim world, there are fundamentalist assholes doing really horrible things right now (not historically) and they are on a scale of activity like in no other religion. so muslim fundamentalism really does deserve special scorn, and does not deserve equivocation with what is going on in the west in terms of abuses or what went on in the west historically
that's like admiring the guy who still lives in his parent's basement in his 40s, and keeps going "mum, can i have my own life now?" "no!" "yes queen mum" "go do the garbage!" "yes queen mum"
rather than the guy who at age 15 says "fuck you, you old bitch, you don't tell me what to do!" "you don't talk to your mother like that!" "bitch bitch bitch fuck you i hate you i'm out of here!"
well, now that i put it that way, both canada and the usa suck
i'm not saying that you have no right to seek out the information source about the crime against you, i'm saying your tactics suck
what you do is you let the information source speak, and you ask the reporter for more information. you make up false reasons for why the information source is wrong, forcing the information source to prove they actually are genuine. or you keep them talking, until they make a mistake, and they reveal themselves
you set a fire, and you smoke them out, THEN you pounce
but if you run into the initial situation yelling subpoena, the source clams up, and your strong arm tactics only wind up hurting yourself, because now you can't hunt down the criminal
monster cable is very interested in pure bits. we have invested heavily in spanish inquisition technology, where each bit is put through an ecclesiastical trial of moral purity. if the bit is found wanting of wholesomeness, modesty and humility, it is tortured mercilessly until it rectifies the purity you demand of it
if you stop hysterically hyperventilating about the quality of your ipv4 session, the oxygen content of the room you are in goes up, which leaches into the hyperconjugated gold-oxygen tcp/ip matrix, which ruins your ipv4 connection quality. so what you have to do is constantly hyperventilate, thereby ensuring your ipv4 connection is not ruined by oxygen
"There's no reason for society to allow you to bloviate on the Internet, either, yet we allow it. And I'm completely serious - what do we, the "Society Hive" you seem to value so highly, gain by allowing half the shit we do?"
it's called free will. yes, there is no money to be made off of it. this offends you, and a number of other people, who don't believe in capitalism. you believe in turning everything into a marketplace. for what purpose? for making cash. not because it is right, nor if it wrong, but just because in your value system, the only thing that matters is that someone somewhere is making money off of it. that's the only thing that matters, against which all other meaning is judged
you are what is called a free market fundamentalist. this is the basis of your belief system. if you were trying to sell bottled water in front of a crystal clear lake, you'd poison the lake. if you were trying to sell canisters of air, you'd pollute the atmosphere
where there is no scarcity (the only REAL WORLD foundation for a marketplace) you will create a false scarcity
the internet, such as with media distributors, has turned what was a scarcity with cost into a zero cost ubiquity. their entire foundation for thought has been shaken. they don't know how to deal with it. they honestly believe that the economics of scarcity should and forever more apply to their business, and if technology has changed and destroyed their marketplace by removing the scarcity, well by golly, they'll enforce an artificial one
that way is the way of destruction and enslavement. and i'm sorry sir, but you who wish to monetize everything will not prevail, as long as there is a shred of decency and humanity in this world
some things are free, not because i said so, but because they are not scarce. this is not about power, this is about the reality and the definition of a natural marketplace. something is not a marketplace because someone on a throne or with a gun said so, but because people want something that has a cost involved. if there is no cost, THERE IS NO MARKET. you don't make something scarce just because you wish to make a buck
so go study your economics 101, reacquaint yourself with your conscience, and fuck off, asshole
somebody made the extremely astute comment that to do the kind of thing they are saying they want to do, the ISP would have to slow down everyone else. because there is simply no such thing as speeding up only one website selectively, there is only artificially slowing everyone down (except for those who pay up). this isn't capitalism, this is monopolistic blackmail
everything on a network as TCP/IP currently works is being delivered according to factors that have nothing whatsoever to do with financial input. yes, you can use financial input to build network infrastructure or build more servers, but on an existing pipe, to make financial input a factor, you would need to do artificial things that would add to overhead and cost. you would have to
1. proactively examine the headers, 2. pick out the headers from companies that are paying you, 3. proactively block all other headers
ironically, the effort involved to do this proactive promotion of certain headers is an additional cost on the speed of your network
so in other words, in a world where traffic priority is determined by who pays up, you are artificially hobbling the entire network for the sake of who gets priority in order to make the scheme work, and furthermore, the sheer effort of prioritizing headers hobbles your network even further
its silly
if i were a company and i wanted my traffic to get to internet consumers faster than my competitors, i wouldn't pay the isp to do that. i'd simply build more servers and place them at more nodes. much bigger bang for your buck, and you aren't buying into a bullshit system that creates an artificial rigged marketplace by ruining the elegance of how the internet works best
in the real world, all these ISPs are doing is giving their ISP competitors a selling point: "we're faster, because we don't interfere". the ISPs would have collude against the consumer and the content providers to impose an artificial tax on the internet, that would also slow it down
monopolistic and oligopolistic anti-capitalist schemes are alive and well. we learned nothing from the gilded age of victorian times. bust the assholes up and sue them into oblivion if any of them tries this crap
however, as you demonstrate, it apparently means it is possible to develop a complacent out of touch mentality that doesn't know what is truly essential in life
what is truly essential really is objectively valuable. either food is essential to living, or its not. if its essential to life, than food has provable objective value
without these things, you die (or life does not continue after your natural death). therefore, food shelter and a mate have objective value, the ONLY things with objective value in fact. everything else is bullshit
yes gold and silver have historical value as agents of currency, but we are talking about a world with civilization breaking down, not a world in which civilization is growing again. if you make it to the return of civilization, congratulations. but in the meantime, your gold is not going to help you survive, because you won't be bartering for anything, because there are no merchants out there, just murderers
and you realize that you don't plan for such a world
90% of us would die. the other 10% would be slaves. the 0.000001% that actually achieved some sort of warlord status would be quickly killed off in a power rivalry... and that next guy would be killed off as well
there is no such thing as planning for the breakdown of civilization. because such a future is no future for anyone, just injustice and crime and suffering and poverty
regardless, assange exercises too much power in the organization. how that came to be might be valid but that it continue like that is obviously not compatible with the organization's mission
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read the comment i am responding to above. i am responding to them. they seem to equate the crimes of the christian fundamentalists with that of the muslim fundamentalists. you could do that historically, but right now in this world, the balance is extremely in the direction of muslim fundamentalists. therefore, you have to give muslim fundamentalism, right now, much more focus and castigation. equating the two fundamentalists meanwhile is a sort of overactive political correctness that only serves to excuse the truly evil crimes that fundamentalists, of the musim flavor, are currently committing
what's your point?
i am refuting the idea that the problems with fundamentalism in the christian world (right now, not 150 years ago) are same as the problems with fundamentalism in the muslim world. no: the problems are the same KIND, but completely different MAGNITUDE. namely, that the muslim world has a much, much larger problem
i am merely destroying the idea that the problems with religion and state in the muslim world are the same as the problems with religion and state in the christian world. the problem exists in both worlds, but you are a fool or a liar if you don't understand that the problem in the muslim world is orders of magnitude worse
and they act in an unauthorized manner in rare insances on behalf of their religion. and?
as if this in any way has anything to do with the official policy, intent, goals, and purpose of the us military. the us military is concerned with the interests and agenda of the us government. if you cannot keep that separate from religion, you are simply making a fool of yourself
you'd be laughed at just as hard as if you told a muslim that saddam hussein's actions were because of islam. just because a country is majority islam or majority christian, the actions of the state has nothing to do with that, and in fact, is often at odds with the religion of the majority of its citizens
state!=religion
if you can't keep that straight, you're just a ridiculous fool
i think if you said what saddam hussein did was because of islam, any muslim would be equally insulted
you can't confuse what is done in the name of a government or a state with what is done in the name of religion and consider yourself a serious commentator on anything. you are merely demonstrating that you don't understand the subject matter
i am not familiar with christian suicide bombers regularly killing hundreds (of mostly other christians)
yes, there is timothy mcveigh. yes, all of the crimes you listed above are wrong
but it does no good to say "well, they jaywalk in the usa, so murder is ok in the muslim world": that's not a proportionate allegory, but you get my point: don't excuse the really really horrid status quo of abuses at the hands of religious nutbags in the muslim world by saying the western world also has some (far less fanged) christian fundamentalists
yes, some christian assholes are doing horrible things, and historically, have done things just as evil as in the muslim world. but in the muslim world, there are fundamentalist assholes doing really horrible things right now (not historically) and they are on a scale of activity like in no other religion. so muslim fundamentalism really does deserve special scorn, and does not deserve equivocation with what is going on in the west in terms of abuses or what went on in the west historically
that's like admiring the guy who still lives in his parent's basement in his 40s, and keeps going "mum, can i have my own life now?" "no!" "yes queen mum" "go do the garbage!" "yes queen mum"
rather than the guy who at age 15 says "fuck you, you old bitch, you don't tell me what to do!" "you don't talk to your mother like that!" "bitch bitch bitch fuck you i hate you i'm out of here!"
well, now that i put it that way, both canada and the usa suck
specifically, the broken window fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
and the crime against you will go unpunished
i'm not saying that you have no right to seek out the information source about the crime against you, i'm saying your tactics suck
what you do is you let the information source speak, and you ask the reporter for more information. you make up false reasons for why the information source is wrong, forcing the information source to prove they actually are genuine. or you keep them talking, until they make a mistake, and they reveal themselves
you set a fire, and you smoke them out, THEN you pounce
but if you run into the initial situation yelling subpoena, the source clams up, and your strong arm tactics only wind up hurting yourself, because now you can't hunt down the criminal
would have been cooler
monster cable is very interested in pure bits. we have invested heavily in spanish inquisition technology, where each bit is put through an ecclesiastical trial of moral purity. if the bit is found wanting of wholesomeness, modesty and humility, it is tortured mercilessly until it rectifies the purity you demand of it
if you stop hysterically hyperventilating about the quality of your ipv4 session, the oxygen content of the room you are in goes up, which leaches into the hyperconjugated gold-oxygen tcp/ip matrix, which ruins your ipv4 connection quality. so what you have to do is constantly hyperventilate, thereby ensuring your ipv4 connection is not ruined by oxygen
it is gold plated, and we all know what that means: leprechauns and unicorns make your browsing sessions happier
at stake, that says to me that you are not quite bright and/ or not very perceptive
and you are against free expression
fuck you you twatstain
additionally, i quoted him where he never mentioned libertarianism, and i reacted to that
so... what is your problem again?
oh and fuck that putz noam chomsky
"There's no reason for society to allow you to bloviate on the Internet, either, yet we allow it. And I'm completely serious - what do we, the "Society Hive" you seem to value so highly, gain by allowing half the shit we do?"
it's called free will. yes, there is no money to be made off of it. this offends you, and a number of other people, who don't believe in capitalism. you believe in turning everything into a marketplace. for what purpose? for making cash. not because it is right, nor if it wrong, but just because in your value system, the only thing that matters is that someone somewhere is making money off of it. that's the only thing that matters, against which all other meaning is judged
you are what is called a free market fundamentalist. this is the basis of your belief system. if you were trying to sell bottled water in front of a crystal clear lake, you'd poison the lake. if you were trying to sell canisters of air, you'd pollute the atmosphere
where there is no scarcity (the only REAL WORLD foundation for a marketplace) you will create a false scarcity
the internet, such as with media distributors, has turned what was a scarcity with cost into a zero cost ubiquity. their entire foundation for thought has been shaken. they don't know how to deal with it. they honestly believe that the economics of scarcity should and forever more apply to their business, and if technology has changed and destroyed their marketplace by removing the scarcity, well by golly, they'll enforce an artificial one
that way is the way of destruction and enslavement. and i'm sorry sir, but you who wish to monetize everything will not prevail, as long as there is a shred of decency and humanity in this world
some things are free, not because i said so, but because they are not scarce. this is not about power, this is about the reality and the definition of a natural marketplace. something is not a marketplace because someone on a throne or with a gun said so, but because people want something that has a cost involved. if there is no cost, THERE IS NO MARKET. you don't make something scarce just because you wish to make a buck
so go study your economics 101, reacquaint yourself with your conscience, and fuck off, asshole
somebody made the extremely astute comment that to do the kind of thing they are saying they want to do, the ISP would have to slow down everyone else. because there is simply no such thing as speeding up only one website selectively, there is only artificially slowing everyone down (except for those who pay up). this isn't capitalism, this is monopolistic blackmail
everything on a network as TCP/IP currently works is being delivered according to factors that have nothing whatsoever to do with financial input. yes, you can use financial input to build network infrastructure or build more servers, but on an existing pipe, to make financial input a factor, you would need to do artificial things that would add to overhead and cost. you would have to
1. proactively examine the headers,
2. pick out the headers from companies that are paying you,
3. proactively block all other headers
ironically, the effort involved to do this proactive promotion of certain headers is an additional cost on the speed of your network
so in other words, in a world where traffic priority is determined by who pays up, you are artificially hobbling the entire network for the sake of who gets priority in order to make the scheme work, and furthermore, the sheer effort of prioritizing headers hobbles your network even further
its silly
if i were a company and i wanted my traffic to get to internet consumers faster than my competitors, i wouldn't pay the isp to do that. i'd simply build more servers and place them at more nodes. much bigger bang for your buck, and you aren't buying into a bullshit system that creates an artificial rigged marketplace by ruining the elegance of how the internet works best
in the real world, all these ISPs are doing is giving their ISP competitors a selling point: "we're faster, because we don't interfere". the ISPs would have collude against the consumer and the content providers to impose an artificial tax on the internet, that would also slow it down
monopolistic and oligopolistic anti-capitalist schemes are alive and well. we learned nothing from the gilded age of victorian times. bust the assholes up and sue them into oblivion if any of them tries this crap
it doesn't mean you never will be hungry
however, as you demonstrate, it apparently means it is possible to develop a complacent out of touch mentality that doesn't know what is truly essential in life
what is truly essential really is objectively valuable. either food is essential to living, or its not. if its essential to life, than food has provable objective value
end of discussion, idiot
and you see this in all sorts of problems in life, from coworker's agendas, to politicians and their bombast:
you can win attention in the short term by describing a threat in worse language than it actually is
but by doing that, you pay the longterm cost of people just not trusting what you say anymore
that's a pretty objective value
i don't know why you insist on disputing this
if so, continue to enjoy your dance with death with my blessing
because its nice to know you are there to give me a new liver or kidney if i need one
anyone who has to risk death to enjoy life is suffering from a psychological problem in my book, sorry
i may lack balls in your book. in my book, you lack a brain
shelter is not a subjective value
a mate is not subjective value
without these things, you die (or life does not continue after your natural death). therefore, food shelter and a mate have objective value, the ONLY things with objective value in fact. everything else is bullshit
yes gold and silver have historical value as agents of currency, but we are talking about a world with civilization breaking down, not a world in which civilization is growing again. if you make it to the return of civilization, congratulations. but in the meantime, your gold is not going to help you survive, because you won't be bartering for anything, because there are no merchants out there, just murderers
and you realize that you don't plan for such a world
90% of us would die. the other 10% would be slaves. the 0.000001% that actually achieved some sort of warlord status would be quickly killed off in a power rivalry... and that next guy would be killed off as well
there is no such thing as planning for the breakdown of civilization. because such a future is no future for anyone, just injustice and crime and suffering and poverty
regardless, assange exercises too much power in the organization. how that came to be might be valid but that it continue like that is obviously not compatible with the organization's mission