Then we don't expect enough of authors is what you are saying.
When I write software and finally release it to get paid I don't get a "1st release is a beta" pay me, "2nd release is an upgrade" pay me. "3rd release is a patch" pay me.
If I screw up something it comes out of my pocket [in terms of time I have to work for free]. When I did small weeklong projects for companies I would give them a week and a half of FREE support [e.g. emails/calls and fix/change anything]. That way I could cover my ass and help them integrate the software.
Calculus [using that as an example] is not new. So if you are going to write a book about it [for L1/L2 classes] it isn't so you can present new material. As such PRESENTATION is your only job. If you can't get that right... you suck and your editors are not doing their jobs.
What is not far off I think is bringing a PDF to a shop, printing it off, reading it, bringing it back to be recycled [or passing it on].
Kinkos/etc are sorta like that but not quite there.
If I could walk into a store and print off any random 50-100 page PDF I wanted to for say 10$ and get it nicely bound... I probably would.
Think about it, if you have say 6 subjects a semester and you could print all of the texts off for ~70$ then turn around and [*] sell it to the next semester class for say half price or just recycle the paper... you'd produce less waste and save a shit load of money.
And by only printing books people are going to use [e.g. directly related to demand] you lower dead-tree-itis.
This is also ideal for the self-publishing types [e.g. myself]. Who have written 300 page texts on a subject and want to hand out copies to peers and friends.
[*] this would require them to stop "upgrading" the texts every year...
of course universities would hate a freely searchable index... means they can't sell the 17th edition of "Introductory Number Theory" or something equally trivial [and well covered in the textbooks spanning the last CENTURY]...
If you can look up quotes/citations/etc without shelling out for overly expensive dead trees... they'd lose their valuable money pit.
Personally I'm glad to be out of College. Not that I bought the books while I was there [well the ones I could avoid I did]. Even in my community college we had 7th edition level 1 and 2 calculus books... last I checked Calculus hasn't changed that much [specially at the level 1/2 levels] in the last century to require a 2nd edition let alone a 7th.
To me "7th edition" says two things. Purposeful re-write and "sloppy editors".
First, I never said the story is legit [or as presented factual]. I just said that the persons gripe with the story wasn't based on what was presented.
And why would I be in line? Currently I hold two jobs in software development and cryptographic support [re: software developer/cryptographer].
As a fresh college grad I safely make enough money to be considered "not a pogey-seeking failure".
But thanks for trying ya 2-bit troll. The trick to really get under peoples skin is to actually know the person you are trying to insult. John Viega and Robert Silverman have managed to do so [publicly no less].
Essentially not only are you a troll... but you're a bad one at that.
If I bought the Lisa... who the fuck are you to say I can't paint over it?
You're mixing cases here though. You don't own the Lisa... so by marking it up your destroying property. They own the rights to the cartoons. They can do WHATEVER they want to them. Which does include making a mockery of them.
This is just another cycle of rediscovering old technology and calling it new.
Next thing you know XML will be replaced with the.ini file;-)
Why people get all excited to the point of jizzing buzzwords over something as simple as XML is beyond me... It's a text file with HTML like tags...
At least ASN.1 specifies encodings "on the wire" which is a bit more useful. I mean you may see
<keyword> TOMBOT </keyword> but how are those chars actually sent on the wire? XML doesn't address this. It's just a fucking syntax for tagging stuff..
Granted what Google is doing is cool it's not "new technology" that enables them todo that. It's just hiring smart people with enough creativity.
What I would love to see are DVI webpages... e.g. end the browser war and replace HTML with TeX once and forall;-) That way your page will render the same ANYWHERE and not just where a given vendor decides to put a client....
What part of that is so hard to understand? If at 21 you don't know gasoline on fire is not a toy... you're likely to be too stupid todo anything productive. Thus your death is not in vain as you're just making room for others.
There is a difference between someone pulling the trigger and an inanimate object [that is not stable] causing harm. Those raghead backwards smacktards don't have to pull the trigger. A tube of gasoline exposed to a heat source MUST ignite [well... WILL ignite].
That's like saying "don't live in LA, there is violence so if you live there you deserve to die". Granted, I wouldn't go there myself because of the violence it doesn't mean they "deserve" it.
These people were doing something that a reasonably intelligent adult human would know isn't safe. They deserve every bit of pain they get from it.
What's more tragic? That they got hurt, or that people like that make it to adulthood to begin with?
There are sides to that though. It's not like someone else put the gasoline filled "light sabre" in their hands. They did that to themselves.
In Iraq you have pansy little raghead mofo's who think that living in anarchy is "so much better than putting up with an American CDMA phone"...
Not that I agree with the commercial exploitation that is Iraq... I just don't think some dude deserves to die because he's fixing a Gas main or installing a cellular repeater...
"NB : Before you make any cheap cracks, the people involved are seriously injured."
That only makes it funnier. Stupid ADULT people deserve to die off because they are stupid and not likely to contribute anything meaningful.
This would be different if it was two 4 yr olds who really don't know better... but two ADULTs ought to know that gas == flamable and flimsy "sabre" == death contraption.
Like seriously... those tubes aren't exactly "sturdy" to even mock fight with...
Takes some sort of special stupid todo this. Specially when you realize that in reality they fight with tubes which are DIGITALLY changed to look like they are glowing.
I had friends [into AV stuff] doing nice looking sabres in film class in HIGH SCHOOL nearly 6-7 years ago using nothing more than the G3 MAC lab we had.
Yeah seriously! I mean next thing you'll know Yoda was actually blue....
Please someone mod down the parent as "newbie paranoid who doesn't make sense, -1"...
Who cares if they change the cartoons. You think your shakespear reader in Grade 9 was the original? You think your Bible is the original? etc...
Things change as people evolve. Cartoons from the 30s were stupid war propaganda crap anyways. Personally I say good bye. If they can sneak a few [more]corporate logos in there all the better.
I never understood that slap thing. Like doesn't anyone hit back?
Personally if I was some self-esteemed challenged punk 16 yr old kid I wouldn't go around smacking random people. It's like playing "which guy knows martial arts?" british roulette!
I know I'd at least make a reach to grab the dude and ruin his day.
Guess I was giving a loaded statement... that said... most of what I do uses a shell. All I really ask of a WM is be able to have multiple desktops, minimize/maximize windows and not suck.
Only big reason I use gnome is occasionally it's nice to browse an icon list of PDFs instead of trying to tab complete a god-forsaken PLC'ed PDF name...
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Then we don't expect enough of authors is what you are saying.
... you suck and your editors are not doing their jobs.
When I write software and finally release it to get paid I don't get a "1st release is a beta" pay me, "2nd release is an upgrade" pay me. "3rd release is a patch" pay me.
If I screw up something it comes out of my pocket [in terms of time I have to work for free]. When I did small weeklong projects for companies I would give them a week and a half of FREE support [e.g. emails/calls and fix/change anything]. That way I could cover my ass and help them integrate the software.
Calculus [using that as an example] is not new. So if you are going to write a book about it [for L1/L2 classes] it isn't so you can present new material. As such PRESENTATION is your only job. If you can't get that right
Tom
Well the trick is to word your problems properly. A spinning disk is not a concept that will go away anytime soon.
... isn't something that will "lose context" just because it's 2006...
But even that doesn't explain the change EVERY YEAR for a new book.
Asking a level 1 student "the derivative of x^2 + 3x + 4"
Tom
What is not far off I think is bringing a PDF to a shop, printing it off, reading it, bringing it back to be recycled [or passing it on].
... I probably would.
Kinkos/etc are sorta like that but not quite there.
If I could walk into a store and print off any random 50-100 page PDF I wanted to for say 10$ and get it nicely bound
Think about it, if you have say 6 subjects a semester and you could print all of the texts off for ~70$ then turn around and [*] sell it to the next semester class for say half price or just recycle the paper... you'd produce less waste and save a shit load of money.
And by only printing books people are going to use [e.g. directly related to demand] you lower dead-tree-itis.
This is also ideal for the self-publishing types [e.g. myself]. Who have written 300 page texts on a subject and want to hand out copies to peers and friends.
[*] this would require them to stop "upgrading" the texts every year...
Tom
of course universities would hate a freely searchable index ... means they can't sell the 17th edition of "Introductory Number Theory" or something equally trivial [and well covered in the textbooks spanning the last CENTURY]...
... last I checked Calculus hasn't changed that much [specially at the level 1/2 levels] in the last century to require a 2nd edition let alone a 7th.
If you can look up quotes/citations/etc without shelling out for overly expensive dead trees... they'd lose their valuable money pit.
Personally I'm glad to be out of College. Not that I bought the books while I was there [well the ones I could avoid I did]. Even in my community college we had 7th edition level 1 and 2 calculus books
To me "7th edition" says two things. Purposeful re-write and "sloppy editors".
Tom
First, I never said the story is legit [or as presented factual]. I just said that the persons gripe with the story wasn't based on what was presented.
... but you're a bad one at that.
And why would I be in line? Currently I hold two jobs in software development and cryptographic support [re: software developer/cryptographer].
As a fresh college grad I safely make enough money to be considered "not a pogey-seeking failure".
But thanks for trying ya 2-bit troll. The trick to really get under peoples skin is to actually know the person you are trying to insult. John Viega and Robert Silverman have managed to do so [publicly no less].
Essentially not only are you a troll
Tom
Where did you get boot disk and the sort from?
... nothing about "linux running off a USB dongle on a laptop" ...
It says a Linux Laptop
Tom
hahahha appropriate!
A+++++ Max Funny!
Tom
If I bought the Lisa ... who the fuck are you to say I can't paint over it?
... so by marking it up your destroying property. They own the rights to the cartoons. They can do WHATEVER they want to them. Which does include making a mockery of them.
You're mixing cases here though. You don't own the Lisa
Tom
This is just another cycle of rediscovering old technology and calling it new.
.ini file ;-)
;-) That way your page will render the same ANYWHERE and not just where a given vendor decides to put a client. ...
Next thing you know XML will be replaced with the
Why people get all excited to the point of jizzing buzzwords over something as simple as XML is beyond me... It's a text file with HTML like tags...
At least ASN.1 specifies encodings "on the wire" which is a bit more useful. I mean you may see
<keyword> TOMBOT </keyword> but how are those chars actually sent on the wire? XML doesn't address this. It's just a fucking syntax for tagging stuff..
Granted what Google is doing is cool it's not "new technology" that enables them todo that. It's just hiring smart people with enough creativity.
What I would love to see are DVI webpages... e.g. end the browser war and replace HTML with TeX once and forall
mmm standards that are actually encompassing...
Tom
So it's not ok to mock them [who did it to themselves] but it's ok to mock me for my comments [which I am making myself]...
Hypocritical or what?
Tom
Swing and a miss...
... DID ... IT ... TO .... themselves!!!
... you're likely to be too stupid todo anything productive. Thus your death is not in vain as you're just making room for others.
THEY
What part of that is so hard to understand? If at 21 you don't know gasoline on fire is not a toy
Tom
Bah, I'll tell you what I tell the SW and HHGTTG zealots...
IT...IS...A...SHOW!
Get over yourselves.
Tom
... note the smiley in my reply ...
But in reality I really don't care what they call themselves. I wrote MAC probably since I write PC all uppercase...
Tom
There is a difference between someone pulling the trigger and an inanimate object [that is not stable] causing harm. Those raghead backwards smacktards don't have to pull the trigger. A tube of gasoline exposed to a heat source MUST ignite [well ... WILL ignite].
That's like saying "don't live in LA, there is violence so if you live there you deserve to die". Granted, I wouldn't go there myself because of the violence it doesn't mean they "deserve" it.
These people were doing something that a reasonably intelligent adult human would know isn't safe. They deserve every bit of pain they get from it.
What's more tragic? That they got hurt, or that people like that make it to adulthood to begin with?
Tom
Fuck you zealot. I'll call it whatever I want. Given that I'm a linux/gnu/amd64 user I don't care what ***MAC*** users call themselves ;-)
Tom
There are sides to that though. It's not like someone else put the gasoline filled "light sabre" in their hands. They did that to themselves.
...
... I just don't think some dude deserves to die because he's fixing a Gas main or installing a cellular repeater...
In Iraq you have pansy little raghead mofo's who think that living in anarchy is "so much better than putting up with an American CDMA phone"
Not that I agree with the commercial exploitation that is Iraq
Tom
"NB : Before you make any cheap cracks, the people involved are seriously injured."
That only makes it funnier. Stupid ADULT people deserve to die off because they are stupid and not likely to contribute anything meaningful.
This would be different if it was two 4 yr olds who really don't know better... but two ADULTs ought to know that gas == flamable and flimsy "sabre" == death contraption.
Tom
In other news, dumb people do stupid things...
Like seriously... those tubes aren't exactly "sturdy" to even mock fight with...
Takes some sort of special stupid todo this. Specially when you realize that in reality they fight with tubes which are DIGITALLY changed to look like they are glowing.
I had friends [into AV stuff] doing nice looking sabres in film class in HIGH SCHOOL nearly 6-7 years ago using nothing more than the G3 MAC lab we had.
Tom
Yeah seriously! I mean next thing you'll know Yoda was actually blue....
Please someone mod down the parent as "newbie paranoid who doesn't make sense, -1"...
Who cares if they change the cartoons. You think your shakespear reader in Grade 9 was the original? You think your Bible is the original? etc...
Things change as people evolve. Cartoons from the 30s were stupid war propaganda crap anyways. Personally I say good bye. If they can sneak a few [more]corporate logos in there all the better.
Tom
I never understood that slap thing. Like doesn't anyone hit back?
Personally if I was some self-esteemed challenged punk 16 yr old kid I wouldn't go around smacking random people. It's like playing "which guy knows martial arts?" british roulette!
I know I'd at least make a reach to grab the dude and ruin his day.
Tom
... um Pac-Man only had intro music. During the game it was that whistle sound + pill eating sound...
Tom
Clearly you've never fired a weapon ...
You don't aim for the head unless it's point blank. Otherwise a chest shot is easier to get and more likely to be fatal as a result.
Tom
Guess I was giving a loaded statement... that said ... most of what I do uses a shell. All I really ask of a WM is be able to have multiple desktops, minimize/maximize windows and not suck.
Only big reason I use gnome is occasionally it's nice to browse an icon list of PDFs instead of trying to tab complete a god-forsaken PLC'ed PDF name...
Tom
Sadly the parent poster wasn't redundant. The story really is "boring".
If I wanted to learn about 1970s PDAs I could google for them.
In other words THIS AINT NEWS!!!
It may be interesting but it's not news. Slashdot is for news, not just "whoa I'm a dork and I found a neato website!"
Tom
Hey super, #1 way to promote *OPEN* source software by forming social cliques full of zealots and exclude potential newcomers.
Fucking canadians...
Tom