I never said that emacs/vim are not powerful. I just said they suck. For me, I always have a shell open. If I need to quickly sed or grep something I use the command line. If I need to add/del/move/insert lines of text I use my mouse. It's just simpler.
In fact Kate has a built-in console so really you could do it all from that too...
My point was you don't need those tools to be productive so the "and she doesn't even use vim" comment is complete and utter bullshit.
As the developer of several OSS projects I can safely say that perhaps us "young whippersnappers" don't use vim or emacs because they suck? I'd much rather use TextPad or say Kate for editing source code. It's a gui, has multiple file thingy, it's like good.
HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:42:18 GMT Server: Apache X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.2 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html
No mention of Linux at all. They probably used it before the SCO fights....
Though notice Apache is under an OSS style license that must prevent the progress of business... oh wait... Apache is probably used by the majority of legitimate businesses in the world... [well ok a few]
Scarry that ebay uses IIS 4.0 and Intel uses IIS 6.0, you'd think Intel would at least be savvy enough to not use MSFT... oh wait... who's bed are they sleeping in?...:-)
When they were making Linux sales?... Hmm.... Odd...
The entire letter is amateurish though. The GPL doesn't prevent any sort of ownership or control. You can release code for GPL then later release it as PD, BSD, whatever else you want. It's your code. The GPL only controls what *other* people can do with your code.
Hahahha funny, ok we know their food is not nutrious [or have the time good tasting....damn advertising and being prevalent!!!] but there is a lot of meat wasted there. I think Invader Zim makes fun of this well with McMeaties [through some good old hyperbole].
I've never heard of JenniCam. Is that just me or does this Jenni person run in different circles than say the nerds/academics that the average OSS developer runs in?
You don't think land on the other side of the world isn't being wasted to grow livestock, make nike shoes and what have not?
Oh totally, cuz whitey doesn't exploit any other land on earth for their own profit while leaving the indigeneous people without enough ownership of their land to say, grow, farm, etc.
"The problem is getting all this food to every part of the world, and still making a profit (no money => no food)."
The point is quite a bit of money is sunk into raising life stock. It costs quite a bit less to grow plants [re: takes less energy overall] which means you can sell more bulk [re: more food for people] and still make money.
The problem is american society is always a "quarter pounder away from a heart attack". If McDonalds [et al.] sold "combo meals" that had way less meat and way more say salads or whatever [baked potatos?] then the consumed meat in American could probably drop by quite a bit.
But who wants to goto a fast food place and eat healthy? Pish posh, eat 2000 calories per meal and thigh master it off later! That's the american way!
I could but unfortunately I'm smart and realize that pissing off hordes of people [ever been to a futureshop lately? They have signs explaining the levies!] to re-coup sales is a bad idea.
If the levy does pass though I will start pirating all the audio I can. Heck if I pay a levy for it I should be entitled todo it.
You take the keys of the developers [or even a cvs key] and then sign all the emerge files. There are only like 2000 new ones a day so at about 50ms a signature [for a really slow box] that's only 100 seconds of time [two minutes not much].
That way if the end user downloads compromised emerge files they could detect them.
Depends. Computers can be just as powerful a medium as the pen.
Sure algorithm design is not a grade five level course but how to use Word [or OpenOffice Writer for you OSS junkies] is not out of the grasp of the average six year old.
Although I agree to a certain extent that not every class needs a cluster of 30 computers to "do work". When I was in school we had maybe two computers [this is the later grades] per class. You would have to long hand write your stuff before typing it [or at least know what you were to type as you had an aloted amount of time].
What schools could use imaginary surplus money on is updating textbooks, videos, etc. I still remember using reel projectors in 1997!!!! [and yes they had a habbit of getting stuck, going the wrong rate, etc...]. In my OAC [er... grade 13 for you non-ontarians] English class most people missed at least 7% or so of their third [out of five] novel [was a followup to Heart of Darkness...]
True dat. My grief is that uber-graphics does not make for uber gameplay. That's a totally different topic though....
One thing that beef's me though about netplay games is that you can't make your own server. If I pay 80$ for an xbox game I should be allowed to make my own server so Idon't have to play with the asshat 12 yr olds that are going to whoop my ass anyways
you just said you used bash as a counter to my argument that KDE has the same "integration vulnerabilities" as windows.
You can't have this arguement both ways. Either you don't use a GUI in which case who cares what you think *or* you do use a GUI [and not something trivial like ice or fvwm] and are vulnerable.
This is total bullshit. While I'm no win32 hacker extraordinaire when I have to write something gui-like in windows I almost always rely on MSDN for the examples/function prototypes/etc.
that's good for you. To bad you don't represent the average user. if you want to move the avg user over to gnu/linux you're going to need a GUI shell thingy.
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I never said that emacs/vim are not powerful. I just said they suck. For me, I always have a shell open. If I need to quickly sed or grep something I use the command line. If I need to add/del/move/insert lines of text I use my mouse. It's just simpler.
In fact Kate has a built-in console so really you could do it all from that too...
My point was you don't need those tools to be productive so the "and she doesn't even use vim" comment is complete and utter bullshit.
Tom
As the developer of several OSS projects I can safely say that perhaps us "young whippersnappers" don't use vim or emacs because they suck? I'd much rather use TextPad or say Kate for editing source code. It's a gui, has multiple file thingy, it's like good.
Tom
Actually "lynx --head http://sco.com" gives
... :-)
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:42:18 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.2
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
No mention of Linux at all. They probably used it before the SCO fights....
Though notice Apache is under an OSS style license that must prevent the progress of business... oh wait... Apache is probably used by the majority of legitimate businesses in the world... [well ok a few]
Scarry that ebay uses IIS 4.0 and Intel uses IIS 6.0, you'd think Intel would at least be savvy enough to not use MSFT... oh wait... who's bed are they sleeping in?
Tom
When they were making Linux sales? ... Hmm.... Odd...
The entire letter is amateurish though. The GPL doesn't prevent any sort of ownership or control. You can release code for GPL then later release it as PD, BSD, whatever else you want. It's your code. The GPL only controls what *other* people can do with your code.
Tom
Hahahha funny, ok we know their food is not nutrious [or have the time good tasting....damn advertising and being prevalent!!!] but there is a lot of meat wasted there. I think Invader Zim makes fun of this well with McMeaties [through some good old hyperbole].
Tom
[not a troll seriously!]
I've never heard of JenniCam. Is that just me or does this Jenni person run in different circles than say the nerds/academics that the average OSS developer runs in?
No news here people, move to the next article.
You don't think land on the other side of the world isn't being wasted to grow livestock, make nike shoes and what have not?
Oh totally, cuz whitey doesn't exploit any other land on earth for their own profit while leaving the indigeneous people without enough ownership of their land to say, grow, farm, etc.
Totally. Love em' nikes!
Tom
"The problem is getting all this food to every part of the world, and still making a profit (no money => no food)."
The point is quite a bit of money is sunk into raising life stock. It costs quite a bit less to grow plants [re: takes less energy overall] which means you can sell more bulk [re: more food for people] and still make money.
The problem is american society is always a "quarter pounder away from a heart attack". If McDonalds [et al.] sold "combo meals" that had way less meat and way more say salads or whatever [baked potatos?] then the consumed meat in American could probably drop by quite a bit.
But who wants to goto a fast food place and eat healthy? Pish posh, eat 2000 calories per meal and thigh master it off later! That's the american way!
Tom
Score: 0....
Oh too bad. Maybe your post just "bottles the mangoo" too much to be modded up?
Tom
I could but unfortunately I'm smart and realize that pissing off hordes of people [ever been to a futureshop lately? They have signs explaining the levies!] to re-coup sales is a bad idea.
If the levy does pass though I will start pirating all the audio I can. Heck if I pay a levy for it I should be entitled todo it.
Tom
yeah they added "over the internet" somewhere.
Tom
I'm a starting struggling author as well as a software developer. Should I not receive a "payment" for potential software piracy?
I already pay a levy on CD-R material [which I never use to pirate audio] that goes to the music industry.
Tom
Why not?
You take the keys of the developers [or even a cvs key] and then sign all the emerge files. There are only like 2000 new ones a day so at about 50ms a signature [for a really slow box] that's only 100 seconds of time [two minutes not much].
That way if the end user downloads compromised emerge files they could detect them.
Damn... I'm like a genius.
I kid, I kid.
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Don't know em, don't know em, don't know em.
Oh and, don't care, don't care, don't care.
Shut up! get out my mind!!! vile disgusting earth dirt!
Tom
By the far the best "you been told" ever. And I learned a new word. Wow, all in all a good slashdot experience.
Thanks,
Tom
Depends. Computers can be just as powerful a medium as the pen.
Sure algorithm design is not a grade five level course but how to use Word [or OpenOffice Writer for you OSS junkies] is not out of the grasp of the average six year old.
Although I agree to a certain extent that not every class needs a cluster of 30 computers to "do work". When I was in school we had maybe two computers [this is the later grades] per class. You would have to long hand write your stuff before typing it [or at least know what you were to type as you had an aloted amount of time].
What schools could use imaginary surplus money on is updating textbooks, videos, etc. I still remember using reel projectors in 1997!!!! [and yes they had a habbit of getting stuck, going the wrong rate, etc...]. In my OAC [er... grade 13 for you non-ontarians] English class most people missed at least 7% or so of their third [out of five] novel [was a followup to Heart of Darkness...]
Tom
A fault compiler can cause all sorts of trouble [not just security related].
Who cares how secure your box is if none of the software works on it?
Tom
that's unpossible.
You fail it.
I don't get your point. KDE and bash are not competing projects. They both solve different problems.
You might as well have said "I use GCC since I prefer it to xmms!"
Fuck-tard.
BTW you can use bash within KDE under Konsole. So what the fuck is your fucking point?
BTW GNOME has integration woes too. WTF do you think Nautilus is? Fuck-tard.
Fuck, fuck fuck.
Tom
True dat. My grief is that uber-graphics does not make for uber gameplay. That's a totally different topic though....
One thing that beef's me though about netplay games is that you can't make your own server. If I pay 80$ for an xbox game I should be allowed to make my own server so Idon't have to play with the asshat 12 yr olds that are going to whoop my ass anyways
Tom
good for you. What does this have todo with my original post? Or are you some sort of posting fuck-tard?
The original point was that Windows is so bad cuz of integration. My reply was KDE is the same way.
We clear now?
you just said you used bash as a counter to my argument that KDE has the same "integration vulnerabilities" as windows.
You can't have this arguement both ways. Either you don't use a GUI in which case who cares what you think *or* you do use a GUI [and not something trivial like ice or fvwm] and are vulnerable.
Tom
This is total bullshit. While I'm no win32 hacker extraordinaire when I have to write something gui-like in windows I almost always rely on MSDN for the examples/function prototypes/etc.
that's good for you. To bad you don't represent the average user. if you want to move the avg user over to gnu/linux you're going to need a GUI shell thingy.