96 Hours Of Open Source Talks In Bangalore

nileshch writes "The ongoing community-driven Linux Bangalore 2003 is upto a record of sorts. There are, hold your breath, 96 scheduled talks. That's about 96 hours of open-source talk in three days! The first day with 30 talks is already over with star speakers like Nat Friedman, Miguel De Icaza and Sirtaj Singh Kang enthralling the audience with their refreshing perspectives on Linux and Open Source. Rasmus Lerdorf and Jeremy Zawodny of Yahoo! Inc, amongst others, are also scheduled to talk at the event."

Comments

Weird place to have it

[Pingular]

You don't really see Bangalore as being the Capital of Open Source, I would have thought a more appropriate place would be Finland.

Re:Weird place to have it

[slavitos]

Doesn't seem too weird to me. If I am not mistaken, Bangalore already has more software engineers than Silicon Valley.

Re: Finland comment. A Finnish-based electronic musician Vladislav Delay once noted that Finland was a country where "like, 500 people listen to jazz".

Re:Weird place to have it

[Copley]

The capital of curry source maybe?

Re:Weird place to have it

[pairo]

Uh... Why would Finland of all places be the Capital of Open Source?

Re:Weird place to have it

[dankdirk77]

You know that guy... Jonne Valtonen (Purple Motion)? he was from Finland... or was that something else....?

Re:Weird place to have it

[BetterThanCaesar]

I think the Leningrad Cowboys have contributed profusely to Open Source.

Re:Weird place to have it

[Vint Cerf]

Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group.

Re:Weird place to have it

[jussikin]

Finland is good place to freeze your balls!. I mean winter here kills. And not talking about those penguins and polarbears all over the place. Bangalore is propably much better, at least your piss wont freeze before it hits ground.

Re:Weird place to have it

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure he is. 2nd reality anyone? :P

Re:Weird place to have it

[lokedhs]

Elwood is finnish too.

I'd say he's at least as good as Purple Motion.

Re:Weird place to have it

[Anonymous Coward]

"You don't really see Bangalore as being the Capital of Open Source, I would have thought a more appropriate place would be Finland."

Why? The person who wrote most of the open-source operating system was born in america.

Re:Weird place to have it

[Anonymous Coward]

I REALLY DONT THINK Finland has much to boast of in terms IT whilst on the other hand Banglore has proven it before that it is the future IT capital of the world and it continues build on that now.

like the song...

[wrinkledshirt]

96 Hours Of Open Source Talks In Bangalore! 96 Hours Of Open Source Talks...!

Take a poster of Darl down, kick it around...

95 Hours of Open Source Talks in Bangalore!

Hrm

[planetoid]

Is this what I'll have to put up with after I graduate college and start working in the computer field? Having to pretend, in front of my boss or bosses, that I'm sooo interested in attending these nonstop conferences of aimless chit-chat just so I won't be on my bosses' shitlist in the future? Serious question.

Re:Hrm

[Anonymous Coward]

Unless you're already in Bangalore studying, you don't have to worry about being sent to conferences. You'll have a hard enough time trying to remember if the order was a double or triple skinny grande mocha latte.

Re:Hrm

[CrazyTalk]

Don't worry, once you get a "Real" job you won't have the time (And your company won't have the money to send you) to go to conferences.

The real refresher

[Anonymous Coward]

Quite refreshing to have a link to a picture instead of html that does not change into open source rant no matter how many times you click refresh.

Dont fear the curry

[dankdirk77]

I hear whining from people all the time about jobs going to India, but news like this I hope can make at least the real slashdot crowd aware of the good going on there.

India is a natural ally of the united states because it is one of the few stable democracies in the region. The people are diverse, smart, conservative, and could potentially join us with japan as the new rulers of the world.

May open source flourish in that country!!!

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Copley]

Agreed... Everytime the topics of Indian software / service centres / whatever come up (and it's more and more often these days), comments appear which seem to imply that the products supplied will inherently be 2nd rate... Does anyone have any evidence to base this on?! Just because products is not coming from the good ol' US of A doesn't necessarily mean it's crap!

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

How many projects have you been on that have used Indian programmers?

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Copley]

...and your point?! BTW, how many have you been involved with?

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes!, continue to believe that, just like Japonese made steel sucks, and Chinese manufactured goods suck, and how all heavy industrial products from Korea suck.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Copley]

No, not difficult...

Just wanted him to confirm his small-minded ignorance!

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been involved with many here in the US, and they do suck. Everything is shoddy, no correctness verification or anything is done. Of course that can be said of most programmers. So, yes, the Indians do suck and so do most others as well.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Funkdoobier]

...and could potentially join us with japan as the new rulers of the world.

This is the most arrogant thing I've ever heard an American say, and I've watched Bush's speeches. Has it occured to anyone in this god damn country that the rest of the world is getting fed up with us assuming that we are at the top of the food chain from now until eternity?

Re:Dont fear the curry

[PurpleWizard]

My experience in the Power Industry (high voltage power transmission and related electric infrastructure stuff) is that the engineers are superb.Individual work at least as good as the UK staff I worked with.

What was lacking was good procedures and best practice working methods, along with overall project management. Once those started to be in place the products started to be as good too.

To put it in context look around you and grade the dedication and motivation of yourself and your coworkers. If it is less than 9/10 you will rapidly be at risk from over seas. They are as clever, they are as well educated (maybe better because of the dedication) and they are much more motivated and dedicated.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[PurpleWizard]

And I don't think they have the same level of problems with industrial action because the employees don't like the latest colour scheme in the toilets!!!

Re:Dont fear the curry

[straybullets]

I wouldn't be so hasty as calling india a democracy. many voices, like Arundhati Roy for instance, speak out to say that it's more like an oligarchy with a parade of democracy to cover religious intolerance & corporate maxi profits.

Then again i wouldn't call the USA a democracy so maybe i'm giving this word a strongest sense that it actually has nowadays.

-- see me run, now you're gone.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I live in a non-US, non-India country. I had to manage offshore, large-scale programming projects in the US and in India.

You wanna know? Indian engineers beat US engineers hands-down. They are smarter, learn more quickly, are nicer and don't complain about silly stuff. American workers tend to get "depressed" because you changed coffee brands. So much for professionalism.

Indian workers were, in fact, cheaper, but due to added expenses in telecommunications, travel, etc. both countries cost about the same.

So our development team is in Bengalore, not Chicago, because the guys in Bengalore do a better job.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

Well somebody's gotta be at the top. There has to be one or a few 'rulers', I think. I like having the USA and Japan being the big two. Japan is much more attractive to me, because I live somewhere that's quite similar to the USA. Better than having, say, China being top of the food chain. MUCH better than China. Having China as #1 is scary given how China still is today.

I agree with the 'until eternity' bit tho. Nothing lasts forever. I hope what replaces the USA will be ok. PS. I am not an American.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[panurge]

apart from the obvious question of what makes being conservative a good thing (or do you think that burning brides for their dowries is just a quaint ethnic folkway?), India has elected Communist state governments in the past. One of my most eye-opening experiences, in fact, was being taken round Mumbai by a Communist councillor and getting a first hand view on the difference between US lunatic fringe communism, Russo/chinese dictatorship communism, and genuinely elected communism...

Just because a section of the Indian middle class is prepared to work with the US for their own gain, just as they did with the British, does not mean that they will continue to do so as soon as they perceive that their advantage lies elsewhere. Whatever makes you think that when the Indian (and Chinese) economies overtake the US in GDP, the US will still be ruling the world? And what makes you think that India is less likely to side instead with the EU, which is currently seen as a more Muslim-friendly bloc than the US? The fear coming off Condoleeza Rice and Rumsfeld just because the EU is starting a tiny military planning unit, is almost palpable. They know how insecure US power really is, in a world which in population terms outnumbers the US and Canada 20 to 1.

Indian Open Source may be very good for the progress of the software trade and in the short term it will be good for US corporations benefiting from low prices. But ask folk in Pittsburgh what happens in the long term when things are done more cheaply (and better) abroad.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[frodo from middle ea]

Not to be trolling, but I am real sick of these pretentious so called indians like arundhati roy.

India is a place of many cultures and languages and the dynamics of the region are far too complex. Arundhati does not even live in india , so what gives her or any outsider the right to judge .<P>
She is just a controversy creating person, I mean how else would all those books of her sell, and how else would she be decorated by the western world ?

Re:Dont fear the curry

[lemox]

The vast majority of India is not Muslim, and given that they get their fair share of Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, I doubt the EU's "Muslim friendliness" will account for much in their decision of who to align with.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[vu2lid]

This is nothing unusual:

When inexpensive Japanese elecronics started flooding the market they were considered cheap and unreliable. How about the preception now ? Similarly for goods from Taiwan, Korea, China, ... Probably something similar is happening in the case of India.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

But they'll never be able to rock like the US, we will always have that.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I've got a factory job now. I often walk past Indians in the parking lot who are going to and from the office jobs I once held. While my surprise and unhappiness over the situation has faded I take offense to anyone who might suggest there's no legitimate reason for people like me to be disgusted. Rest assured that for every one of you, there's ten people like me who can with all sincerity tell you to go fuck yourself

Re:Dont fear the curry

[0x1337]

Hahahahahah... ROFLMAO!!!

You've apparently had verrrry little experience with the "product" of these outsourcings. 100 Monkeys with a 100 Apple ][s would do better.

(quote)India is a natural ally of the united states because it is one of the few stable democracies in the region. The people are diverse, smart, conservative(/quote)

No one cared for the random (and wrong) bullshit you posted, but thanks for playing anyways. I am not sure what you mean when you say "diverse, smart, conservative" - but if you have the image of Dubya Booosh in mind as you proceed to have your orgasmic phantasies about the world's next nuclear crater (or AIDS/overpopulation catastrophe) - then God beez helpin' us, bro'. Yo no whum diggin'?

I really do hope you never encounter an Indian "software developer," or lose your job to one - you might be slightely disappointed.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess you must be using one of those "third world" keyboards, right now. Careful you don't electrocute yourself.

Wanker.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[0x1337]

This is coming from a guy who is too much of a wuss to put a name behind his inane drivel. Coward. Anonymous Coward.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

watch it buddy. For God's sakes, your name is "OX". i am sure a coward is a better name than ox

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

please don't say that about a country who is at least 5 times smarter than most americans

Re:Dont fear the curry

[0x1337]

Its actually 0x1337 - not 0x

Re:Dont fear the curry

[straybullets]

She speaks the truth.
The fact that you don't want to hear it is another problem, probably linked to the fact that you profit from what she condemns.
These "she don't live in India" will not stand against any analysis of what she says and you know it.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey dickhead! I am an Indian programmer and I resent your implication. Fucking towel head with shit for brains anonymous coward.

Re:Dont fear the curry

[satyap]

Yes, thank you. I'm really sick of people tarring me with the same brush and calling me a terrorist.

Gotta love the title of this talk

[scubacuda]

"Lessons Learnt from a German Potato Salad"

Re:Gotta love the title of this talk

[The Cydonian]

The speaker has an blog entry on the event on his home page.

Sirtaj Singh Kang

[Anonymous Coward]

> Sirtaj Singh Kang: From hell's heart, I code at thee

KAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN{G}!!!!!

Re:Sirtaj Singh Kang

[Jacco de Leeuw]

I, for one, welcome our new Bangalore Overlords.

Re:Sirtaj Singh Kang

[Anonymous Coward]

Sir Taj's website is this, not the one mentioned in the original post (which is rather out of date).

Re:Sirtaj Singh Kang

[Old Wolf]

Where does this come from?
(eg. that potato guy saying "It's a trap" comes from some Lucas movie)

Re:Sirtaj Singh Kang

[Anonymous Coward]

The Simpsons, of course!

"Well this speaks for itself. Springfield has been taken over -- "conquered",if you will by a master race of giant space ants. It is difficult to tell from this vantage points whether they will consume the captive Springfieldians or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain,there is no stopping them; they will soon be here! And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted Springfield personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves".

(News ancor Kent Brockman, discussing the aliens Kang and Kodos).

Re:Sirtaj Singh Kang

[ralphclark]

It has nothing to do with Kang or Kodos. It was from the episode where Homer goes on the Space Shuttle, and the hero of the episode was an "inanimate carbon rod". As far as I recall, neither Kang nor Kodos made an appearance in this episode.

BTW both those alien names are from Star Trek (TOS)...Kang was a Klingon (natch) played by Michael Ansara and Kodos was "Kodos the Executioner", the unfortunate-governor-of-Tarsus-IV-turned-Shakespea rean-actor.

No better place

[Anonymous Coward]

No better place to demonstrate the futility of expensive labor than India, and no better topic to demonstrate the futility of expensive proprietary software than OSS.

You hit the nail on the head.

Re:Really!?

[Chairboy]

Wow, I guess you didn't realize that a conference like this usually has multiple conference rooms going simultaneously with overlapping talks.

Me: 1 point
Anonymous Coward: Zero

I'm afraid to say it, but...

[Anonymous Coward]

See, it's the crazy-lookin' open-sourcers that scare me. Checked out Jeremy Zawodny's page. Do I want to entrust my corporate infrastructure with code from a guy with his head out a car window?

Just a thought. Hope something meaningful comes out of the get-together.

Re:I'm afraid to say it, but...

[tgt]

You are absolutely right. We'd sure as hell entrust our corporate infrastructure to code from someone more suit-able with no head at all :)

Re:I'm afraid to say it, but...

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah. I see - one must look like he hasn't done his laundry in order to have a head.

That's exactly the type of attitude that keeps companies from making the switch.

Cheers.

Re:Open Sourcing 7-11s

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes!, Belittle the Indians, that'll help get all those IT jobs back here to the good 'ol US of A.

Re:no thanks buddha man

[Anonymous Coward]

> I'd prefer the U.S. be the ONLY ruler of teh world.

Exactly! how else are we going to break international laws and continue to piss off the rest of the world?

> As far as India is concerned, I wouldn't want to live a day in that third-world shit hole.

Yeah! Some places in India don't even have running water, like some places in Tennessee! Shitholes!

You forgot ...

[skjaidev]

Micro soft ;-)

Conference proceedings or transcripts

[Space cowboy]

Is there (or will there be, once it's finished) an online transcript of any of these 96 speeches ? Not necessarily for free (though free would be good :-))

Simon

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure it'll be free. But that's free as in speech not free as in beer.

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[crhylove]

yes or how about mp3s? or a torrent to .rm files?

all computer conventions should have these!!!

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[Anonymous Coward]

In my experience, when sub-continentals are involved, a transcript is pretty much essential even when you are present as they speak.
*DUCK*

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[toolz]

Well, transcripts of 96 talks are kind of difficult. The slides will be up as always after the event.

And for free, of course :)

As in beer.

Check the schedules a couple of days after the event.

If you are interested, you can also check out the slides from LB/2002 and LB/2001.

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[tuxhack]

Hi, u there... I am still attending the conference.. and as soon as I am back at my office.. some of the talks.. especially those on MySQL and PHP which I had attended will be converted into ogg and uploaded to my server. Probably you should find the links in linux-bangalore.org/2003... also the slides as per the organisers said... will be available there FREE ofcourse.

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[Space cowboy]

Cheers :-)

Simon

Re:Conference proceedings or transcripts

[smchris]

Little late now if the groundwork hasn't been laid, but I would recommend to all involved the format of the '03 Aussie linux conference CD .iso they put together for download. It is thoroughly awesome work.

http://www.linux.org.au/conf/2003/

Re:Open Sourcing 7-11s

[Anonymous Coward]

Belittle them? Why I praise them for their tasty cheese and chili dogs too!

How the hell...

[TheSonicVince]

...do they fit 96 hours in THREE days (72 hours)?

Re:How the hell...

[cioxx]

...do they fit 96 hours in THREE days (72 hours)?

With the help of the new LZW time compression algorithm. Why else do you think companies outsource to Bangalore?

Re:How the hell...

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, they use multiprocessing:

http://linux-bangalore.org/2003/schedules/

Re:How the hell...

[zhenlin]

I have to inform you of my outrage on the LZW time compression algorithm! It was awarded a patent, but it's clearly a word-for-word copy of the General Theory of Relativity, especially the part about time dilation at high speeds!

Obviously, the USPTO doesn't care about prior art. Even when the author of the prior art was a patent clerk himself!

Re:How the hell...

[wowbagger]

The same way your local radio stations manage to have a "90% music hour" with 20 minutes of commercials - by overlapping the talks.

Re:How the hell...

[gavri]

If you had RTFA, you'd see that those are talks taking place simultaneously in different halls.

Tough luck if both your fav speakers are on at the same time

Re:How the hell...

[yodha]

Which decade are you in? Forgot multiprocessing? ;-)

Re:How the hell...

[jelle]

"With the help of the new LZW time compression algorithm. Why else do you think companies outsource to Bangalore?"

Because they don't hate Unisys there yet? Or is it because they call 26 year old things new?

I have some new farting technology for sale, too. It stinks better than the farts you know, and it's patent pending!

Re:How the hell...

[The Master Control P]

They accelerated India up to relativistic speed :).

Re:How the hell...

[TheSonicVince]

If you had had some sense of humor, you wouldn't have posted such an acid attack. And you wouldn't have gotten a +5 mod neither, actually. Maybe there's also a Karma compression on /., as I got a +3 ?

At least there doesn't seem to exist a smartness compression, that would lead people to be more dense...oh wait...

Conference talk via Audio-on-Demand?

[ivi]

Eg, in the style of the sorely missed
TechNetCast?

Re:Conference talk via Audio-on-Demand?

[The_Obfuscator]

I sorely miss technetcast. They havn't updated things in quite a while.

Re:no thanks buddha man

[Anonymous Coward]

Take a trainride longer than two hours in any place in India (notice the grey shirt if you started with a white one). Now take one in the US, EU or Japan. You *will* notice the difference in both attitude of people and quality of the ride.

This goes for many things in India, they will have to perform miracles to get the standard of living up to western standards without getting the salaries up as well. Good luck!

96 hours!

[teamhasnoi]

That's so long, we'll have to outsource it to India!

Re:This is no surprise

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean this fella?

Intelligent and realistic positioning of Linux

[cyberjessy]

I have just come back from Linux Bangalore 2003. One of the most striking things I noticed is that there is hardly any "hardline linux advocacy" at the venue. It focuses well on how linux would fit into today's computing environment, including interoperating with Microsoft Windows.

It is evident from the fact that Mono is given great prominence. Miguel De Icaza is speaking today as well as on friday. A top official from Microsoft (YES Microsoft!) is speaking on how Windows and Linux can co-exist.

In short, a very credible and organized meet of enthusiasts and business users. Hats off to the organizers!

Re:Intelligent and realistic positioning of Linux

[watzinaneihm]

It has to be free of any hardline advocacy since the Indian government is the main sponsor (Ministry of Information and communications from the website).The government seems to follow a policy of "best job for the tool" and are rather neutral when it comes to software.

Re:Intelligent and realistic positioning of Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

If I ever meet a Microsoft employee, I will KICK HIS ASS!!

Re:Intelligent and realistic positioning of Linux

[wembley]

I think you mean "best tool for the job", not "best job for the tool."

The latter would be reflective of a lot of consultantcies. "We got this great tool! Now let's alter your problem to make it solveable."

Re:Intelligent and realistic positioning of Linux

[monzie]

LB/2003 was real good stuff. they took up a moderate view instead of the usual hardline stuff that goes on .. i mean they were realistic and they were good. we must keep in mind that linux for the desktop has not really arrived. it will, but not yet for servers nothing gets even close, as we all know

I for one welcome our new scheduling overlords

[Anonymous Coward]

How do they exactly fit 96 hours into 3 days ?

Re:I for one welcome our new scheduling overlords

[CmdrGravy]

they have more than one talk at same time

realistic co-existence with softwar gangsters?

[Anonymous Coward]

like netscape, etc...?

whereas miguel, va lairIE et AL etc.... are harvested to 'co-exist' as wannabe billyonerrors, whilst the 'community' behaves itself while adapting to the depressed weakend of the phonIE payper liesense stock markup fraud fairytail economIE?

like co-existing with gotti in the garmeNT disstricked? or co-existing with oj, whilst hanging out with his formerly existing ex?

why would some hobbyist dogooders want to co-exist with anything LIEk that? can you tell 'em robbIE?

Miguel De Icaza will FUD again !

[Anonymous Coward]

Be sure he will FUD again them to push the kiddies "mono" ;-)

I am wondering how much does this guy get of money from MS !
Better push realy opensource technology than technology that try to mimic comercial patented stuffs.

By the way, i don't think that there is anybody but him that think mono has a future :(

This project is almost dead, you can't follow the compatibility with a proprietary software without the "goodwill" of the technology owner, this is fact.

And be sure MS want to protech their $$$ source ;-)

Welcome in the real world neo.

Not Surprising.

[The Cydonian]

In a way, it was to be expected. considering that MS' IndDev Center at Hyderabad is into development of Services for Unix (SFU).

It'll be interesting, though, to see, say, Steve Ballmer's reaction to the title of the guy's talk. (I'm talking about the first link, obviously)

Re:Not Surprising.

[Anonymous Coward]

Services for Unix (SFU).

As of January 2004, the project will be renamed Services Tailored for Unix. I like that name better.

Re:96 Hours..

[Argon]

It's like any other show with scheduled talks - five of them go on in parallel. The quality of the talks is very varied, I must say I wasn't quite disappointed with a few of them. I guess I should not be really complaining because the speakers don't get compensated or anything. By the way Bdale Garbee was one of the "star" speakers at the conference. He talked about porting Debian GNU/Linux to the IA64 platform.

eyecon0meter: not far off the mark there

[Anonymous Coward]

great opportunities abound abroad? (score: mynuts won, IT doesN'T couNT if you doN'T spell IT write?)

a slight majority of traffic/business from our websites now comes from abroad. they're either early adapters, or just more needy? mozilla/other browser traffic is up to over 25% now. that's quite remarkable. folks tiring of being trained to co-exist with virotic payper liesense bugwear eye gas?

Re:96 Hours..

[Argon]

Aargh. That's what I get for submitting without previewing. Read that as I must say I was quite disappointed with a few of them.

reading too much ?pr? ?firm? hypenosys?

[Anonymous Coward]

rule the wwworld? new? where'd you hear that cool chatter, on the shortwave?

stable democracIE, LIEk US?

One billion penguins...

[Anonymous Coward]

...can't be wrong. I suppose they can.

hmmm, I wonders, a few years from now whether there might be any room in the Hindu pantheon/s for a penquin?

If Kipling were still around...

stuff

[p-unit*or*die]

P-UNIT!!

and that's all I have to say about that....

[tomstdenis]

Don't know em, don't know em, don't know em.

Oh and, don't care, don't care, don't care.

Shut up! get out my mind!!! vile disgusting earth dirt!

Tom

Maine has that many?

[yecrom2]

Let's hear it for flannel! You guys need to learn how the name is spelled.

yecrom2.

Arundhati Roy is anti-Hindu

[Anonymous Coward]

We have names for people like her.

Re:Arundhati Roy is anti-Hindu

[straybullets]

No, i don't believe so. She's more like anti stupidity. But i won't troll along, as we have names for people like you.

I don't think linux-bangalore2003

[Anonymous Coward]

should be held outside of bangalore....the name wouldn't really fit in finland, or in some other year either.

yes but...

[twoslice]

Will there be an "Open" mike to sing it?

Miguel de Icaza

[yodha]

I attended the Linux Bangalore/2003 event today. After Miguel de Icaza's Mono talk, me and five others had a really long and interesting one-on-one talk with Miguel over lunch. Some photos here. It was really nice to see and interact with some great people over here in Bangalore itself.

Swalpa Adjust Maadi

[Anonymous Coward]

One phrase that might be of help to you outsiders in bangalore. Besides, bangalore rocks - better than most of the cities i have been to.

Ogg Vorbis files for radio airplay would be good.

[jbn-o]

I volunteer at a community radio station (WEFT 90.1 FM) and I host "Digital Citizen", a bi-weekly show (Wednesdays 8-10p) that talks focuses on Free Software, copyright and patent issues, and related topics. I'd be happy to air interesting speeches or discussions from the Bangalore event. Unfortunately I can't make it to Bangalore to record the events myself, but if anyone has Ogg Vorbis files to share, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

record and bittorrent'ing talks?

[jago25_98]

Hopefully someone with record and bittorrent the talks?

You must have missed the meeting

[Anonymous Coward]

India is a natural ally of the united states because it is one of the few stable democracies in the region. The people are diverse, smart, conservative, and could potentially join us with japan as the new rulers of the world.

New Rulers of the world? Actually, I think China's got that one locked up.

Re:no thanks buddha man

[Anonymous Coward]

You fool, stop feeding 'teh' trolls!

Check out their FAQ

[bombom]

http://linux-bangalore.org/2003/guides/faq.php

Q: Can I have a copy of the delegate database with email addresses?
A: ROTFL! (Rolling on the floor laughing) NO!

Q: I'll pay you for it!
A: You don't have enough money

Q: I do! I am Bill Gates!
A: You still don't have enough money to make us break our privacy policy.

Bangalore is an interesting place

[appleLaserWriter]

I was surprised to learn that the cost of living is greater in Bangalore than Seattle. If you make $60k a year in Seattle, you need to make $67k in Bangalore to maintain a similar standard of living.

http://www.homefair.com/homefair/servlet/ActionS er vlet?pid=246&previousPage=245&cid=homefair&fromSal ary=60000&fromCity=743&toCity=389

It seems that anyone moving jobs to India is not only taking american jobs away, but also stealing from shareholders by paying an unnecessarily high price for labor.

Re:Bangalore is an interesting place

[barureddy]

I don't know where you got your numbers for india, but they can not be right. You can build a rather large, even by our american standards, in India for 67 thousand. What kind of house can you get in the US for 67 thousand? Not much. A brand new car there probably cost about $10,000. If you spend more than a $1000 on food a year in india, then you are getting ripped off or eating at a 4-5 star restraunt every day.

A person who makes about $2500 is considered to be making a very good salary and has an above average living.

Bangalores?

[Chiisu]

i remember having to fetch those in Medal of Honor

Refreshing?

[Anonymous Coward]

enthralling the audience with their refreshing perspectives on Linux and Open Source.

Refreshing? Umm, lets see...

Linux rulez!!@

M$ sucks!!

Burn SCO!!

I hope they are more "refreshing" than the typical Slashdot zealot.

Two points...

[0x1337]

A: "Vladislav Delay" doesn't sound like a Finnish or a Hungarian name. B: Thats 500 too many people listening to that degeneracy.

No wonder everyone outsources to bangalore

[pardasaniman]

No wonder everyone outsources to bangalore, each day there is %33 longer!

96/3 = 32 hours in a day.... Heck, with that much time in a day, you wonder why it's just software that gets sourced out.

Goodie!

[Anonymous Coward]

For Christsake! Isn't it bad enough that these people are stealing all of our jobs? But now we're teaching them how to use free software, so they don't even have to pay poor Indians anymore!

Fucking job market better improve soon...

Re:Free

[Anonymous Coward]

Dunno where you got this, but AFAIK, Krishna has only two arms.

Re:no thanks buddha man

[Anonymous Coward]

the attitude of indians are 50 times nicer than the rude Americans ( i am not talking about the whole nation, but the few who pratice rudeness to others).

Don't fall for the PR!

[Anonymous Coward]

What does being a democracy have to do with being a 'natural' ally? Is this meant to imply that other forms of governments are not worthy of being an ally? Why the dig on the other countries of that region?

... and could potentially join us with japan as the new rulers of the world ...

Oh I see...dream on...but please don't pollute open source (a form of global friendship and cooperation) with your PR. fie!

Re:So what

[Anonymous Coward]

real funny. when did you get kicked out?
advice: take a painting job.