Oh yes, that's the solution. Lower police presense because bad drivers won't improve their driving skills.
Next you'll see fewer prison guards because criminals are just going to try and escape anyways [more guards == more fear of being in prison], etc...
Or, how about this altruistic solution. Those same drivers that fear getting ticketed.... DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.
My bro and I cruise around town quite a bit [we do the chores for the family] and whenever we see a speed trap on the highway we continue on the same speed and occasionally wave to the cops. Why? Because we weren't speeding. No need to slam on the brakes.
Simple concept.
Almost like saying "if people stopped pirating media less people would be arrested.". Similar to "if the RIAA wasn't out of touch with reality they wouldn't sponsor Spears [et al.] and release some worthwhile music."
Actually I do have a small set of friends at college [in my program stream]. And no, I don't support their piracy efforts. They know that which is why they don't really talk about it around me.
And when I said "report them" I meant one of the 13990 strangers who happen to go to the same school as I do. It's a real pain in the ass when you are trying to download lecture notes, webmail, etc and the people beside you are downloading music videos, mp3s, games, etc...
First, you can consider "driving a right" all you want. It isn't but that's totally upto you. Just like smoking and drinking are not rights neither [well drinking water is since you have the right to life but thats another matter].
I wasn't talking about DUI though. The people who "roll through stops" are just arrogant and impatient. They roll through stops because they have to be somewhere [wherever, doesn't really matter] 8 tenths of a second faster. Regardless if people are trying to cross [re: me].
As for "sleepyness" I don't think a standard should be instituted for that. That's far too unstandard [e.g. some wide-awake drivers can cause accidents just by being their own bad driver-self].
However, rolling through stops is something MANY drivers in Ottawa do. It's very annoying and from my personal experience has led to a few close calls.
As for your P2P argument. Its a crock. Unless you legitimately gain access to the media you are pirating it. Even if you later buy the media you have still pirated [e.g. are still guilty of an offence] the media.
I do agree the RIAA should embrace P2P technology [heck reliable, quality downloads is reason enough to shell out say 30$/month for unlimited downloads]. But they won't. And failing that I still have no problem with cracking down on ALL media pirates. Regardless of their intents.
If you want to know what a song sound likes... do what the rest of us have done in the past. Request it on a radio station [which has/should have legitimate access to it].
This "oh but I want my own copy to "test"" BS is just that BS.
If you ever want to have some fun get onto a canadian highway [say 401] during the winter blizzard season. On my way to Windsor [from Ottawa] I saw about ten or so cars totally wipe out because they were doing 140KM/h in a 100KM/h zone.
Funny shit to see a honda civic [preferably with a go muffler] waste it in a ditch,....
Or you could not condone [sp?] piracy. Oh my god. And you could not encourage your friends to pirate.
Admitedly I'm guilty of belonging to this group. My friends pirate movies and for the longest time I thought it was cool.
However, that being said I don't actively pirate music/video/software nor do support it. Heck I bought a copy of WinXP [despite the fact I currently use Linux] so if I do need to use Windows I have a legit copy.
Nobody is perfect but switching from a "ah its ok since nobody will notice" bullshit to "I'm going to stop pirating, start buying [or use free stuff] and not support friends/family who pirate".
It's really that simple. Nobody is suggesting we hang pirates [which is what you seem to be implying]. However, what would be wrong with reporting criminals?
I mean what if you were a cop [or agent of say the FBI, RCMP, etc..] and you're brother was pirating software. Would you just sit by since "reporting on friends breeds distrust" or would you uphold your oath to support the laws of the land?
First off, you probably don't live in Ottawa. Just because I haven't been hit by a car doesn't mean I don't daily and consistently see people drive poorly. I mean I can go for a walk right now and maybe spot 15 drivers who violate one law or another. True, they may not be in an accident but that doesn't mean their driving is good.
Just like I could discharge a firearm in the city and probably not kill anyone. Doesn't make that a good idea either.
Second, I don't see what the problem is with ceasing pirates computers. If you drive drunk your license is taking away. If you smuggle goods your car can be impounded. Why should pirates be protected? Even better is when the computer belongs to the parents and its the kid doing the piracy. It will teach parents a lesson that ignoring their responsibilities is their fault.
Third, w.r.t. the "self-policing societies". We already have that [sans the predicted anarchy you described]. For example, "americas most wanted" and "crimestoppers" both work on the sole premise of citizens reporting crimes/facts/tips. We don't live in complete anarchy or dictatorships as far as I can tell.
If I'm at a college [which I am] and people around me in a lab are pirating [which they do often] I'd love to report them, collect say 100$ for getting them convicted. Not only do I pocket 100$ but I get bandwidth wasting jackasses off the already stressed computer network.
Sorry your bleeding heart liberal arguments don't quite cut it.
Where I live [Ottawa, Ontario]. Many drivers "slide" through stop lines [specially in residential areas where kids and such walk], they speed, merge without signaling, change langes inappropriate [many seem to think you cutoff people instead of going behind], etc.
Should we just make the law state "You can drive crazy if you want since everyone seems todo it?"
Or should we make the punishments more severe? Personally I think people rolling through stop lines should be fined 500$. I think speeders should have their license revoked. If the cops spent a day doing a traffic blitz they could probably catch a few hundred people [town of 50K here...] easy.
Similarly, make piracy a huge penalty [e.g. compute ceased, fined 1000$ or etc] and blitz every so often.
Of course there are extremes. E.g. "oh the RIAA is going after legit users". But if the law is followed correctly going after pirates could be more productive.
I still say make it a sport. If you report a pirate [who is convicted] you get x % of the fines. Get the geeks to hunt the pirates!
I am a troll. Though to some I'm a tolerable troll. Which is more than I can say for you.
How many shitty crypto libraries have you written lately? That's right, ZERO!. While I have at least written one half-ass shitty backwards crypto library.
I don't even talk on the compression group anymore.
So if you are going to try and insult me at least keep uptodate.
And "asshole" is very subjective. My guess is your beef with me is I'm your target of the day. So if that is the case being an "ass" by your standards isn't very meaningful.
Also you haven't addressed the issue. Why are my libraries "shitty". Or were you just mouthing off?
HAHAHAHA Frosty Piss, how original. Did you think that up all by yourself or did you have help?
Man where do you get this material. Man I'd pay you a billion bucks to stick around me and tell jokes all day. You are by far the funniest person I have ever met! hahahahaha!
When cable modems were new in north america they weren't as slow as they are now. They promised break-neck speeds that would boggle your mind. Now they give speeds that nearly rival dailup modems [well kidding but you know what I mean].
The thing isn't that jobs shouldn't be allowed in other countries. The issue is downsizing a company to then hire people outside the country.
If you're in so much money troubles move your company abroad and make room for the next company.
That and while I question the talent of the average "computer programmer" in the US/Canada I seriously question the quality in a country [such as China] where universities turn out 20K "graduates" per year per semester.
They do. [They're actually in the same class/stream as I am].
But coming from Algonquin College means the code will be submitted in Visual Basic, only work on 1/4 windows boxes and have a slew of trivial buffer overrun errors.
[and yes I realize that I'm a foron for going to this school too].
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Why is it "then its on disk"? It is possible to lock memory my friend.
Even still I was alluding to a PDA like device which doesn't have a hard disk [and most that have flash have SRAM too...]
My point is there are alternatives to paper for secure documents. Even on a PC you can do much better.
Tom
Why not just not print it then? Its easier to blank an LCD or CRT in terms of cost/environmental impact than it is to print paper and burn it.
Man I should be a PhD or something with this common sense comming out the wazoo.
Oh yes, that's the solution. Lower police presense because bad drivers won't improve their driving skills.
Next you'll see fewer prison guards because criminals are just going to try and escape anyways [more guards == more fear of being in prison], etc...
Or, how about this altruistic solution. Those same drivers that fear getting ticketed.... DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.
My bro and I cruise around town quite a bit [we do the chores for the family] and whenever we see a speed trap on the highway we continue on the same speed and occasionally wave to the cops. Why? Because we weren't speeding. No need to slam on the brakes.
Simple concept.
Almost like saying "if people stopped pirating media less people would be arrested.". Similar to "if the RIAA wasn't out of touch with reality they wouldn't sponsor Spears [et al.] and release some worthwhile music."
Tom
I have second cousins who are in the "play with lego" age. Should I post what they make on /. too?
Seems to me this is "news for dorks who still play with legos". Grow up and get a mechano set like the rest of us.
Tom
Actually I do have a small set of friends at college [in my program stream]. And no, I don't support their piracy efforts. They know that which is why they don't really talk about it around me.
And when I said "report them" I meant one of the 13990 strangers who happen to go to the same school as I do. It's a real pain in the ass when you are trying to download lecture notes, webmail, etc and the people beside you are downloading music videos, mp3s, games, etc...
Tom
First, you can consider "driving a right" all you want. It isn't but that's totally upto you. Just like smoking and drinking are not rights neither [well drinking water is since you have the right to life but thats another matter].
I wasn't talking about DUI though. The people who "roll through stops" are just arrogant and impatient. They roll through stops because they have to be somewhere [wherever, doesn't really matter] 8 tenths of a second faster. Regardless if people are trying to cross [re: me].
As for "sleepyness" I don't think a standard should be instituted for that. That's far too unstandard [e.g. some wide-awake drivers can cause accidents just by being their own bad driver-self].
However, rolling through stops is something MANY drivers in Ottawa do. It's very annoying and from my personal experience has led to a few close calls.
As for your P2P argument. Its a crock. Unless you legitimately gain access to the media you are pirating it. Even if you later buy the media you have still pirated [e.g. are still guilty of an offence] the media.
I do agree the RIAA should embrace P2P technology [heck reliable, quality downloads is reason enough to shell out say 30$/month for unlimited downloads]. But they won't. And failing that I still have no problem with cracking down on ALL media pirates. Regardless of their intents.
If you want to know what a song sound likes... do what the rest of us have done in the past. Request it on a radio station [which has/should have legitimate access to it].
This "oh but I want my own copy to "test"" BS is just that BS.
Tom
Amen to that.
If you ever want to have some fun get onto a canadian highway [say 401] during the winter blizzard season. On my way to Windsor [from Ottawa] I saw about ten or so cars totally wipe out because they were doing 140KM/h in a 100KM/h zone.
Funny shit to see a honda civic [preferably with a go muffler] waste it in a ditch,....
Muhahahahhahah
Or you could not condone [sp?] piracy. Oh my god. And you could not encourage your friends to pirate.
Admitedly I'm guilty of belonging to this group. My friends pirate movies and for the longest time I thought it was cool.
However, that being said I don't actively pirate music/video/software nor do support it. Heck I bought a copy of WinXP [despite the fact I currently use Linux] so if I do need to use Windows I have a legit copy.
Nobody is perfect but switching from a "ah its ok since nobody will notice" bullshit to "I'm going to stop pirating, start buying [or use free stuff] and not support friends/family who pirate".
It's really that simple. Nobody is suggesting we hang pirates [which is what you seem to be implying]. However, what would be wrong with reporting criminals?
I mean what if you were a cop [or agent of say the FBI, RCMP, etc..] and you're brother was pirating software. Would you just sit by since "reporting on friends breeds distrust" or would you uphold your oath to support the laws of the land?
Tom
First off, you probably don't live in Ottawa. Just because I haven't been hit by a car doesn't mean I don't daily and consistently see people drive poorly. I mean I can go for a walk right now and maybe spot 15 drivers who violate one law or another. True, they may not be in an accident but that doesn't mean their driving is good.
Just like I could discharge a firearm in the city and probably not kill anyone. Doesn't make that a good idea either.
Second, I don't see what the problem is with ceasing pirates computers. If you drive drunk your license is taking away. If you smuggle goods your car can be impounded. Why should pirates be protected? Even better is when the computer belongs to the parents and its the kid doing the piracy. It will teach parents a lesson that ignoring their responsibilities is their fault.
Third, w.r.t. the "self-policing societies". We already have that [sans the predicted anarchy you described]. For example, "americas most wanted" and "crimestoppers" both work on the sole premise of citizens reporting crimes/facts/tips. We don't live in complete anarchy or dictatorships as far as I can tell.
If I'm at a college [which I am] and people around me in a lab are pirating [which they do often] I'd love to report them, collect say 100$ for getting them convicted. Not only do I pocket 100$ but I get bandwidth wasting jackasses off the already stressed computer network.
Sorry your bleeding heart liberal arguments don't quite cut it.
Tom
It could say something about the people too.
Where I live [Ottawa, Ontario]. Many drivers "slide" through stop lines [specially in residential areas where kids and such walk], they speed, merge without signaling, change langes inappropriate [many seem to think you cutoff people instead of going behind], etc.
Should we just make the law state "You can drive crazy if you want since everyone seems todo it?"
Or should we make the punishments more severe? Personally I think people rolling through stop lines should be fined 500$. I think speeders should have their license revoked. If the cops spent a day doing a traffic blitz they could probably catch a few hundred people [town of 50K here...] easy.
Similarly, make piracy a huge penalty [e.g. compute ceased, fined 1000$ or etc] and blitz every so often.
Of course there are extremes. E.g. "oh the RIAA is going after legit users". But if the law is followed correctly going after pirates could be more productive.
I still say make it a sport. If you report a pirate [who is convicted] you get x % of the fines. Get the geeks to hunt the pirates!
Tom
Don't pirate and you won't be liable for C&D claims.
:-)
Also while bittorrent is certainy very cool I almost never use it. I can still download Linux Kernels at 100KB/sec
round-robin DNS is cool.
I am a troll. Though to some I'm a tolerable troll. Which is more than I can say for you.
How many shitty crypto libraries have you written lately? That's right, ZERO!. While I have at least written one half-ass shitty backwards crypto library.
Booyah. Suck it.
I live in an upstairs bedroom. There is a difference!!!
Also I never have lied about it. As you so aptly have traced I've discussed my lack of an entertaining life on usenet.
Can we be friends? I'm so lonely!
out of my a...? what attic? OMG there was a burgular in the house. I caught him and told him to rob your parents basement [re: your "home"]
Tom
I may have my faults but at least I don't have a tail or a sixth toe on either foot.
Tom
First off newb-to-reality I didn't rip off his code. He just didn't agree with my license. In the end I agreed with him and removed his code.
It's called a discussion. See where multiple people talk without resorting to cowardly practices and name calling.
Can't we just get along? I bet in real life you're just the sweetest person on Earth. Ahh gimme a hug!
I don't even talk on the compression group anymore.
So if you are going to try and insult me at least keep uptodate.
And "asshole" is very subjective. My guess is your beef with me is I'm your target of the day. So if that is the case being an "ass" by your standards isn't very meaningful.
Also you haven't addressed the issue. Why are my libraries "shitty". Or were you just mouthing off?
Tom
Why are my libraries "shitty" may I ask?
Or is that just the qualified opinion of some two-bit punk who can't write software that is used by others?
Shut up. I really wish they'd just IP block the dorks who post those stupid messages. Or just stop allowing AC posts.
Tom
HAHAHAHA Frosty Piss, how original. Did you think that up all by yourself or did you have help?
Man where do you get this material. Man I'd pay you a billion bucks to stick around me and tell jokes all day. You are by far the funniest person I have ever met! hahahahaha!
Funny!
Tom
Is somehow posting this against EVERY story funny or productive?
I mean give it up dude. You're not funny and you're certainly not making a point other than you're a jackass.
Tom
When cable modems were new in north america they weren't as slow as they are now. They promised break-neck speeds that would boggle your mind. Now they give speeds that nearly rival dailup modems [well kidding but you know what I mean].
:-)
Funny thing that.
Hmm
The thing isn't that jobs shouldn't be allowed in other countries. The issue is downsizing a company to then hire people outside the country.
If you're in so much money troubles move your company abroad and make room for the next company.
That and while I question the talent of the average "computer programmer" in the US/Canada I seriously question the quality in a country [such as China] where universities turn out 20K "graduates" per year per semester.
Tom
foron == fucking moron.
You foron!
Tom
They do. [They're actually in the same class/stream as I am].
But coming from Algonquin College means the code will be submitted in Visual Basic, only work on 1/4 windows boxes and have a slew of trivial buffer overrun errors.
[and yes I realize that I'm a foron for going to this school too].
Tom