What's more surprising is the number and generations of people who have absolutely no personal convictions and will sell out at the first sign of a cheque.
For me, yes, I like getting paid to write software, but if the software is shite or say anti-civil rights I'd just walk. I have only one life to live and I can't afford to spend it doing shite work even if the pay is right.
A lot of people, not just in the states mind you, have wholesale departed from any sense of honour and character, and been attracted to the bright lights of the easy buck. Wear that suit, speak the lingo, lie and hope not to get caught. Apparently the paycheque is all that matters!
With people like this is it any wonder that the monopoly lobby groups are disconnected from reality?
I still question the legitimacy of any law like this. Inside Canada, you have the right to free association and the like. Provided you're not directly interacting with the subject, I don't see any grounds for complaint.
At the very least, you could defend yourself with saying you were going to the same place. I've done that a few times on the trip to the grocery store. There are 4 turns to get there and I've had times where I would follow someone else going to the same store for at least 3 turns.
1. They have several production lines. They make more than one CPU type at a time. They are capable of simultaneously producing/testing 65nm while making 90nm parts.
2. Idle time in a fab is a KNOWN COST HAZARD. I'm not making this up. It costs money to keep rooms clean, pay the interest on the debt, etc
3. Word on the street [when I was an AMD employee...] was the average processor cost ~60-80$ USD in raw materials/time/effort to make (assuming 100% yield). Yes, your opteron cost about the same to make (excluding yield problems) as that $50 sempron. So why make semprons if they lose money? Yes, I know I'm discounting yield which does contribute real cost to the processors. On the opteron side though, my take [personal op] was that most of the cost was to recoup the R&D not the production costs.
Point is, both AMD and Intel produce low end parts that cost money. Even in the Celeron line which they call "mistakes" (e.g. parts with broken caches) that's not entirely true and is misleading. Even if you made a defective cache, it costs more money to just throw the die out, then to package it as a celeron and sell it at a loss.
4. Intel cores are fast, but they're not the be-all. They still lack NUMA support which is handy in HPC environments (re: not your desktop). They're also not quite a strong in the ALU front (though from my crypto benchmarks are VERY VERY close).
I'm by no means an AMD fanboi. Hell, my desktop is a core2. But I still love my 2-way Opteron workstation and get it to do things that run circles around the core2 (like hosting 15 engineers running simulations/verifications/etc).
Buy what you need, not what some lame commercial on TV tells you. For many, the core2 is the best buy. It's fast, wicked low power and the cost isn't bad. For others, AMD is the better buy (cheaper) or simply more powerful (opterons).
Your post makes no sense. I never said people have no privacy, nor should they expect it. I said if you're exposing your secrets to the world, don't expect them to be private. I don't want my genitalia on the web, so I wear pants. Amazing feat of security that. Kudos on trying to embarrass me though. Your AC troll-fu is just too weak.
If you're walking about, in public, in plain view OF EVERYONE, expect no privacy in terms of your whereabouts. That's just common sense. Even the common criminal knows that.
Next time you try to come up with an argument, think it through first.
Well I dunno about the UK, but in Canada following someone is legal provided that you are not threatening them (e.g. they are not confined) or placed in danger (e.g. push them into traffic). If you keep a reasonable distance and stick to public property, you're perfectly within your means.
It's when you start interacting with them directly (speaking, touching, etc) that you cross the legal boundary.
My point is if you want to remain private you have to do private things. Walking about in public, with your face totally exposed is not how you keep private any more than sending your credit card # in cleartext over HTTP is any way to keep that private.
People don't get the issues [like any other field] but will hit the hot button that makes the most noise. It's the same with red light cameras. They're no more a violation of your privacy, then cottage cheese is (and if you think that comparison makes no sense, congrats you got my point).
Tapping phones is different, as there is an expectation of privacy over a landline since it's reasonable to assume your neighbours are not tampering with telecommunications gear. So if the UK govt is needlessly and without warrant tapping people, then there is an issue. But the cameras? They're nothing more than a budgetary blight that should be removed because it's a WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY.
Of grainy videos and horrible low bitrate audio? I just don't get the point of watching music videos over the net. For me, audio quality is paramount, and 32kbps WMA doesn't cut it.
That and most music videos are shite anyways. Just some half-naked plastic whore dancing around to music that other people wrote. The actual quality song and accompanying video are fairly rare nowadays...
If I wanted to look at naked women via the web, I wouldn't turn to shitty music videos.
Seems silly to release another 90nm part before the move to 65nm but keep in mind their are DIFFERENT LINES/TEAMS working at AMD. It's not like the production people working on retail 90nm parts are the same as the people testing new 65nm techniques.
AMD is just trying to get as much non-idle time out of the fab as possible before they move everything to 65nm.
It's the same reason why they make "el-cheapo sempron" parts and sell them AT A LOSS. It's better to lose a few bucks than a lot. And idle time in a fab costs a lot of money.
As a civilian I could just follow you around in public all I wanted. If that's perfectly legal, why is it illegal for the man to do it?
I think it's just a WASTE OF TIME to have the cameras around because the reality is things do get missed, crimes do happen [and go unsolved], etc. in the grand scheme of things it solves less problems then it causes/costs.
And to be honest, I've been to liverpool, widnes and manchester. I didn't notice more than a couple cameras during the entire trip. Unless you're looking for them it's kinda out of sight out of mind.
If I wanted to hide from the man I wouldn't go for a walk out in public with my face in full view.
What I hate is the definition of "terrorist" is subject to change.
Try this, be muslim and not support the war in iraq. See how quickly you're shown contempt not only from the man but from society as well.
There are more citizens than policy makers. If anything the citizens are letting it happen, they're supporting it, and not doing any meaningful action to stop it because it's inconvenient.
where's the contract? Nobody releases work for distribution without a contract. I seriously doubt they had a "wink and a nod" agreement to remix songs and release it, especially for profit.
Without a signed contract it's bs.
Though I do agree the RIAA is a bunch of douchebags for going all S.S. on them.
While i'm all for new tech, let's take a second to re-examine this. We're going to take electricity and power our cars... ok but this has to come from somewhere right? And it isn't like we're going to generate it on the spot. So we're going to put MORE strain on the existing power grid to power these recharge stations.
The power itself is made from something, usually not nuclear because "oh noes it's unsafe!" [note the sarcasm] but instead things like coal. So now we're gonna have to burn more coal (which pollutes more than nuclear) to power this. Keeping in mind the entire process is lossy.
I'm all for electric cars, but we'll need a lot more than a good battery to make it practical.
Yes, but the point remains they want to remove adult themed shows in place of the children oriented crap. I may remind you that most "children" programs nowadays that are approved by the likes of the CTS and AFA folk are TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY EDUCATIONAL OR SOCIAL MERITS.
Long gone are the days of "mathnet", reading rainbow, bill nye the science guy, mr. wizard, and the like. Nowadays kid watch shit like anime, power rangers, teletubbies [wtf?] and the like. They're not "children shows" they're just mindless noise with less violence and more religious [but not moral] parading.
If you were actually in it "for the children" you'd be for shows that teach kids science, literature, history, etc. Not bombard them with mindless commercialism.
In short, this has nothing to do with "think of the children" and more about a minority exerting their will on the rest of humanity. It's about power and control (whoa, common theme!).
Not only that but some of us work for a living and can't be up till 11pm or whatever to watch the adult shows. I get home from work at 4, I then use the time to exercise, practice music, cook supper and sit down for a bit [etc] before heading to bed at 10pm.
Oddly enough, the only time I was routinely up past 10pm was WHEN I WAS A KID, because it didn't really matter if I was a zombie at school.
1. DRM costs the consumers money. That is, the producers license shit technology (that going by their track record they're batting.000) that they then pass the cost onto the consumer/customers.
2. DRM doesn't actually work. Every single form of DRM from CSS to WDRM to Fairplay has been in one form or another broken or circumvented. Including the many methods (and millions of dollars that went into) CD and video game protection schemes
3. Despite the ability to circumvent DRM, media says continue to increase.
4. DRM often attempts to circumvent fair use rights preventing the social order.
5. The introduction of the DMCA was a *crutch* introduced by lobbyists to do what DRM could not do.
6. DRM vendors have no souls.
7. Media studios leverage their market share to unfairly harm competition (see: payola).
8. Media studios will boldly lie about revenue and other statistics to gain power over citizens of "free" nations.
Disregarding financing and expenditures... Wikipedia is just plain wrong. I spent the last 90 minutes tracking "recent changes" undoing a bunch of "LOL PENIS" edits. At that rate of destruction Wikipedia would be TOTALLY worthless after only a month or so if all the volunteers stopped performing "undo" operations.
Also, I think anonymous edits is just a bad idea. I understand that some folk can't attribute their identities to their edits, but too bad. Without volunteers WASTING THEIR TIME on revision edits wikipedia wouldn't even be a good STARTING place let alone reference...
And please, if you're one of those trolls adding "LOL PENIS" to wiki articles, please stop. It's childish and doesn't make you cool, it makes you an ass making work for others./rant
That's not some 7$/hr cashier. If I walk into Walmarts and the clerk says "normally this game is $40 but for you, you can just walk out with it." I'd either leave the game there, or find a manager.
You can't reasonably expect that some 15 year old kid at a walmart [or whatever] is authorized in any capacity to change the prices of products.
Just because some kid may decide to be "generous" doesn't mean you're legally entitled to it.
"some dude at a computer show" was probably the owner of the product.
Some $7/hr cashier is not the owner of the store. They're not authorized to change the prices of anything and any reasonable adult knows this to be true.
My example was of someone who is OBVIOUSLY doing something wrong by knocking %10 off EVERYTHING not just certain products. My point was just because the billing discrepency is in your favour, doesn't make it legitimate.
It wasn't reasonable to assume two box sets would be $0 when the offer states %50 off, and the "victim-customers" were just taking advantage of an unfair situation.
That and it's a fucking boxset. At most probably $40 bucks or so. If that's the end of your world maybe you shouldn't be shopping for boxsets.
It's not reasonable to assume $0 was the correct price. I could see if they charged $0.25 less by mistake, then you could argue "no, I reasonably though this transaction was legit." But when you see $0, you have to think, ok this is wrong, they clearly made a mistake.
Frankly, I can't side with the customers because it's such a cheap and lame thing to do. Kicking people when they're down is just so manly, roar, I'm impressed.
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What's more surprising is the number and generations of people who have absolutely no personal convictions and will sell out at the first sign of a cheque.
For me, yes, I like getting paid to write software, but if the software is shite or say anti-civil rights I'd just walk. I have only one life to live and I can't afford to spend it doing shite work even if the pay is right.
A lot of people, not just in the states mind you, have wholesale departed from any sense of honour and character, and been attracted to the bright lights of the easy buck. Wear that suit, speak the lingo, lie and hope not to get caught. Apparently the paycheque is all that matters!
With people like this is it any wonder that the monopoly lobby groups are disconnected from reality?
Tom
So you're saying the goverment will start to wholesale doctor up evidence against random citizens? To what end?
While I agree that government needs more accountability, I just don't see the V for Vendetta future. No supreme rule ever lasts.
Tom
Not what your mother said last night.
..., kid.
HEHEHEHE LOL I MADE A PEEPEE JOKE I R FUNNY.
Wake me up when you're not a kid,
Tom
I still question the legitimacy of any law like this. Inside Canada, you have the right to free association and the like. Provided you're not directly interacting with the subject, I don't see any grounds for complaint.
At the very least, you could defend yourself with saying you were going to the same place. I've done that a few times on the trip to the grocery store. There are 4 turns to get there and I've had times where I would follow someone else going to the same store for at least 3 turns.
Is that stalking?
Tom
I don't need advanced CCTV cameras to violate your rights. Get that through your head.
People were being unlawfully detained althrough history. CCTV is not an enabler of this.
Yes, be angry at the CCTV, but not because it violates your privacy, but because it's a waste of money.
Tom
Several things:
1. They have several production lines. They make more than one CPU type at a time. They are capable of simultaneously producing/testing 65nm while making 90nm parts.
2. Idle time in a fab is a KNOWN COST HAZARD. I'm not making this up. It costs money to keep rooms clean, pay the interest on the debt, etc
3. Word on the street [when I was an AMD employee...] was the average processor cost ~60-80$ USD in raw materials/time/effort to make (assuming 100% yield). Yes, your opteron cost about the same to make (excluding yield problems) as that $50 sempron. So why make semprons if they lose money? Yes, I know I'm discounting yield which does contribute real cost to the processors. On the opteron side though, my take [personal op] was that most of the cost was to recoup the R&D not the production costs.
Point is, both AMD and Intel produce low end parts that cost money. Even in the Celeron line which they call "mistakes" (e.g. parts with broken caches) that's not entirely true and is misleading. Even if you made a defective cache, it costs more money to just throw the die out, then to package it as a celeron and sell it at a loss.
4. Intel cores are fast, but they're not the be-all. They still lack NUMA support which is handy in HPC environments (re: not your desktop). They're also not quite a strong in the ALU front (though from my crypto benchmarks are VERY VERY close).
I'm by no means an AMD fanboi. Hell, my desktop is a core2. But I still love my 2-way Opteron workstation and get it to do things that run circles around the core2 (like hosting 15 engineers running simulations/verifications/etc).
Buy what you need, not what some lame commercial on TV tells you. For many, the core2 is the best buy. It's fast, wicked low power and the cost isn't bad. For others, AMD is the better buy (cheaper) or simply more powerful (opterons).
Tom
Your post makes no sense. I never said people have no privacy, nor should they expect it. I said if you're exposing your secrets to the world, don't expect them to be private. I don't want my genitalia on the web, so I wear pants. Amazing feat of security that. Kudos on trying to embarrass me though. Your AC troll-fu is just too weak.
If you're walking about, in public, in plain view OF EVERYONE, expect no privacy in terms of your whereabouts. That's just common sense. Even the common criminal knows that.
Next time you try to come up with an argument, think it through first.
Tom
Well I dunno about the UK, but in Canada following someone is legal provided that you are not threatening them (e.g. they are not confined) or placed in danger (e.g. push them into traffic). If you keep a reasonable distance and stick to public property, you're perfectly within your means.
It's when you start interacting with them directly (speaking, touching, etc) that you cross the legal boundary.
My point is if you want to remain private you have to do private things. Walking about in public, with your face totally exposed is not how you keep private any more than sending your credit card # in cleartext over HTTP is any way to keep that private.
People don't get the issues [like any other field] but will hit the hot button that makes the most noise. It's the same with red light cameras. They're no more a violation of your privacy, then cottage cheese is (and if you think that comparison makes no sense, congrats you got my point).
Tapping phones is different, as there is an expectation of privacy over a landline since it's reasonable to assume your neighbours are not tampering with telecommunications gear. So if the UK govt is needlessly and without warrant tapping people, then there is an issue. But the cameras? They're nothing more than a budgetary blight that should be removed because it's a WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY.
Tom
Of grainy videos and horrible low bitrate audio? I just don't get the point of watching music videos over the net. For me, audio quality is paramount, and 32kbps WMA doesn't cut it.
That and most music videos are shite anyways. Just some half-naked plastic whore dancing around to music that other people wrote. The actual quality song and accompanying video are fairly rare nowadays...
If I wanted to look at naked women via the web, I wouldn't turn to shitty music videos.
Tom
Seems silly to release another 90nm part before the move to 65nm but keep in mind their are DIFFERENT LINES/TEAMS working at AMD. It's not like the production people working on retail 90nm parts are the same as the people testing new 65nm techniques.
AMD is just trying to get as much non-idle time out of the fab as possible before they move everything to 65nm.
It's the same reason why they make "el-cheapo sempron" parts and sell them AT A LOSS. It's better to lose a few bucks than a lot. And idle time in a fab costs a lot of money.
Tom
As a civilian I could just follow you around in public all I wanted. If that's perfectly legal, why is it illegal for the man to do it?
I think it's just a WASTE OF TIME to have the cameras around because the reality is things do get missed, crimes do happen [and go unsolved], etc. in the grand scheme of things it solves less problems then it causes/costs.
And to be honest, I've been to liverpool, widnes and manchester. I didn't notice more than a couple cameras during the entire trip. Unless you're looking for them it's kinda out of sight out of mind.
If I wanted to hide from the man I wouldn't go for a walk out in public with my face in full view.
Tom
Well at the point where the Crown thinks I'm an enemy I'll just stop visiting the country :-)
Honestly, I agree the cameras are a waste of effort, but the privacy issues are just not there. You're OUT IN PUBLIC for crying out loud.
Tom
What I hate is the definition of "terrorist" is subject to change.
Try this, be muslim and not support the war in iraq. See how quickly you're shown contempt not only from the man but from society as well.
There are more citizens than policy makers. If anything the citizens are letting it happen, they're supporting it, and not doing any meaningful action to stop it because it's inconvenient.
Tom
No simon, I won't house you from the evil brits. You drink too much. :-)
BTW, do you really think the cameras are archived or looked at in any depth.
Tom
where's the contract? Nobody releases work for distribution without a contract. I seriously doubt they had a "wink and a nod" agreement to remix songs and release it, especially for profit.
Without a signed contract it's bs.
Though I do agree the RIAA is a bunch of douchebags for going all S.S. on them.
To
While i'm all for new tech, let's take a second to re-examine this. We're going to take electricity and power our cars... ok but this has to come from somewhere right? And it isn't like we're going to generate it on the spot. So we're going to put MORE strain on the existing power grid to power these recharge stations.
The power itself is made from something, usually not nuclear because "oh noes it's unsafe!" [note the sarcasm] but instead things like coal. So now we're gonna have to burn more coal (which pollutes more than nuclear) to power this. Keeping in mind the entire process is lossy.
I'm all for electric cars, but we'll need a lot more than a good battery to make it practical.
Tom
Yes, but the point remains they want to remove adult themed shows in place of the children oriented crap. I may remind you that most "children" programs nowadays that are approved by the likes of the CTS and AFA folk are TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY EDUCATIONAL OR SOCIAL MERITS.
Long gone are the days of "mathnet", reading rainbow, bill nye the science guy, mr. wizard, and the like. Nowadays kid watch shit like anime, power rangers, teletubbies [wtf?] and the like. They're not "children shows" they're just mindless noise with less violence and more religious [but not moral] parading.
If you were actually in it "for the children" you'd be for shows that teach kids science, literature, history, etc. Not bombard them with mindless commercialism.
In short, this has nothing to do with "think of the children" and more about a minority exerting their will on the rest of humanity. It's about power and control (whoa, common theme!).
Tom
Not only that but some of us work for a living and can't be up till 11pm or whatever to watch the adult shows. I get home from work at 4, I then use the time to exercise, practice music, cook supper and sit down for a bit [etc] before heading to bed at 10pm.
Oddly enough, the only time I was routinely up past 10pm was WHEN I WAS A KID, because it didn't really matter if I was a zombie at school.
Tom
Fuck the children [not literally], I pay for cable not them. If cable/tv/whatever is bad for them, then make a law banning them from watching TV.
Why should I be left with shite "family oriented" programming when I'm the one paying the damn bill?
When 6 yr olds start paying for cable maybe then we should consider what's in their best interests.
Tom
1. DRM costs the consumers money. That is, the producers license shit technology (that going by their track record they're batting .000) that they then pass the cost onto the consumer/customers.
2. DRM doesn't actually work. Every single form of DRM from CSS to WDRM to Fairplay has been in one form or another broken or circumvented. Including the many methods (and millions of dollars that went into) CD and video game protection schemes
3. Despite the ability to circumvent DRM, media says continue to increase.
4. DRM often attempts to circumvent fair use rights preventing the social order.
5. The introduction of the DMCA was a *crutch* introduced by lobbyists to do what DRM could not do.
6. DRM vendors have no souls.
7. Media studios leverage their market share to unfairly harm competition (see: payola).
8. Media studios will boldly lie about revenue and other statistics to gain power over citizens of "free" nations.
9. I ran out of facts.
Tom
Disregarding financing and expenditures ... Wikipedia is just plain wrong. I spent the last 90 minutes tracking "recent changes" undoing a bunch of "LOL PENIS" edits. At that rate of destruction Wikipedia would be TOTALLY worthless after only a month or so if all the volunteers stopped performing "undo" operations.
/rant
Also, I think anonymous edits is just a bad idea. I understand that some folk can't attribute their identities to their edits, but too bad. Without volunteers WASTING THEIR TIME on revision edits wikipedia wouldn't even be a good STARTING place let alone reference...
And please, if you're one of those trolls adding "LOL PENIS" to wiki articles, please stop. It's childish and doesn't make you cool, it makes you an ass making work for others.
Tom
MSFT "supported" the ODF standard then goes out and invents their own standard anyways? And now they question why IBM is agianst it?
Me thinks MSFT should look up the definition of standard.
Tom
That's not some 7$/hr cashier. If I walk into Walmarts and the clerk says "normally this game is $40 but for you, you can just walk out with it." I'd either leave the game there, or find a manager.
You can't reasonably expect that some 15 year old kid at a walmart [or whatever] is authorized in any capacity to change the prices of products.
Just because some kid may decide to be "generous" doesn't mean you're legally entitled to it.
Tom
"some dude at a computer show" was probably the owner of the product.
Some $7/hr cashier is not the owner of the store. They're not authorized to change the prices of anything and any reasonable adult knows this to be true.
My example was of someone who is OBVIOUSLY doing something wrong by knocking %10 off EVERYTHING not just certain products. My point was just because the billing discrepency is in your favour, doesn't make it legitimate.
It wasn't reasonable to assume two box sets would be $0 when the offer states %50 off, and the "victim-customers" were just taking advantage of an unfair situation.
That and it's a fucking boxset. At most probably $40 bucks or so. If that's the end of your world maybe you shouldn't be shopping for boxsets.
Tom
It's not reasonable to assume $0 was the correct price. I could see if they charged $0.25 less by mistake, then you could argue "no, I reasonably though this transaction was legit." But when you see $0, you have to think, ok this is wrong, they clearly made a mistake.
Frankly, I can't side with the customers because it's such a cheap and lame thing to do. Kicking people when they're down is just so manly, roar, I'm impressed.
Tom