Two in the front of the flight deck (mission commander & pilot).
Two in the rear of the flight deck (mission specialists)
Three on the mid-deck.
STS-71 and STS-61A had 8 on board. STS-71 used special seats on the mid-deck. I don't know where the 8th person sat on STS-61A. I kinda doubt it was "just have a seat on the floor there, and hold on.":)
You'd cry worse when it's an underskilled, undereducated, disinterested dispatcher who decides it's not worth sending an ambulance even though you've just said "medical emergency, need paramedics" with your specific location, from a E911 capable cell phone.
In that case, I gave up waiting after about 10 minutes. He was stable enough to put into the car, so we were speeding towards the hospital until we reached a traffic jam and were lucky that a deputy had someone pulled over. Once we were sure things were stable and the paramedics were preparing to transport him, I talked to the deputy. He was actually doing a DUI stop. Dumb drunk almost hit him. He said the DUI could wait, we were more important. Well more like "He has time to wait, he's going to jail for quite a while." He checked with dispatch, and no one had been dispatched to our original location.
We were luckier that the second time they needed to be called (about 6 months later), we got a good dispatcher. Fire rescue and paramedics were dispatched and arrived in about 3 minutes. It was too late to save him, but if we had sat around waiting for them, we'd still be questioning if he could have been saved. It's one of those rare moments that hearing sirens followed by strangers running in the front door is a good sound to hear.
Dating can be detrimental at work. As long as they're both happy, nothing bad will come of it. As soon as they have a fight, it could be opening the door for sexual harassment suits. Ya, management hopes they get married and live happily. Most workplaces don't want or need the interpersonal problems that come with dating to influence the workplace.
"We all" is a pretty broad statement.... and I've found out what happens when you say "gun" at a TSA checkpoint. I don't really suggest it.:) At least mine was for legitimate reasons. My whole statement was "I was at the shooting range earlier today, so I may test positive for residue. I do not have a gun or any ammunition. You may search my bags to be sure." Just the word "gun" got every TSA agent looking directly at me. Oddly enough, even though my hands still smelled of gunpowder, I didn't set off their sniffer tool. They had a look in my bags anyways.
It's all in what you say and how you say it. I've asked TSA checkpoint agents about finding guns and explosives. Oddly enough, none have ever answered positively that they did. One told me that he didn't know of it ever happening at this airport, but he had heard rumor of explosives once being found at an airport 100 miles away. He did let me look in the contraband bin, but I wasn't to reach in to touch anything.:) It was the largest collection of cigarette lighters that I've ever seen. Polite questions get you a long way.:)
Well, just because you post something online that may or may not be true doesn't mean there won't be consequences for that action. I won't argue that this case was fair, but...
Say you maintained a convincing profile online of a drug dealer. You may find the local police drug squad or DEA knocking on your door. Well, more like knocking down your door with a no-knock warrant. When they don't find anything, and it becomes obvious that you were joking, it would normally be dropped. I don't know why her case is any different. The only thing I can think of is that she had a boss that wanted rid of her anyways. Once you sufficiently annoy the powers over you, they'll find any excuse to show you the door. Financially, she had been there for 21 years. She would likely be replaceable by someone for a fraction of her pay, assuming they give raises. Finding excuses to get rid of high pay staff, to replace them with cheaper counterparts isn't at all unusual.
Some people live happily in their own delusional world. To them, things are simple.
I lived close to a hospital once, and when their dispatcher would get on the radio, it would overwhelm broadcast TV stations. While I didn't really want to hear the dispatches while trying to watch TV, I did hear an awful lot of them. You are absolutely correct though. The ones I was listening to weren't at the emergency operations center (which was about 40 miles away).
I guess it would all depend on where you are. I suppose in very small towns, the dispatcher may also answer the 911 calls, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
That's a good suggestion too.:) They were all made for office/business use, where printing 100 pages and then going for a ink refill simply isn't acceptable.
On any that I've worked with, there's only been one that was a problem. It was in a law office, and they printed stuff constantly. It was full of paper dust and the rollers were shot. I didn't even bother to ask how many tens of thousands of pages they had put through it. They paid a professional (i.e., someone with spare rollers in stock) to fix it, since they needed it back in service that day, rather than waiting for me to order parts.
People really don't get that. Unfortunately, most consumer printers are made to be disposable too. I've seen so many that may last through their first set of refill cartridges (which were more expensive than the printer), only to have it fail and it ends up in the trash. So they overcharge for the crap plastic printer. They way overcharge for the replacement ink. Most people aren't looking for high quality photos. They're printing invoices and emails. When someone asks me what printer to get, I ask them what they're going to use it for. They may (just may) print some pictures on photo paper. I've seen so many people with a pack of photo paper that they've only used a couple pages from, and the rest was just text.
When I get another printer (or more like if, since I rarely print anything), I'll probably go looking for a refurb HP Laserjet 4 or 5. The damned things were indestructible.
Well, the fix for both is to kill them all. That's already been handled by the fine corporations around the world. It'll just take a little while for it to finish the job.
Come on, if one company can single handedly set up to kill all life in the Gulf of Mexico with a single event, what'll happen when more of them have "accidents"?
I always love hearing that list, when the side effects may include a rambling list, that starts with headaches, and ends in death. It makes me not want to take anything ever again.
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There's something to be said for simplicity and senseless violence. Those are two of my favorite things in a movie.:) Well, if you add in dragons, naked women, and heavy artillery, then you'd have a real winner.
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Don't forget the big corp methodology. Have a service cap on staff. No employee may work longer than 3 years unless they are senior management. They will be laid off, and possibly rehired at entry level pay doing the same job at the same desk, but under a new "department" name so long term incentives don't need to be paid.
Promotions are a thing of the past. If you want to get into the better job, you're more likely to get it by going fresh into a new company and lying about your skills. "I've managed a staff of 1.5 million, and increased the profit of the corp to 3 trillion per year." Most of them never check on your lies, but they'll be more than happy to brag about what a winner they just hired.
(note: Don't lie on your resume. It makes you look bad, and annoys the rest of us who now have to defend our work history because everyone else fluffs their resume.).
For me, I can't and won't ever participate in a marathon. Shin splints pretty much eliminate me from those pesky running sports.:) Not to say I'm lazy, I just can't run for more than about a mile before I'm laying on the ground in severe pain. Not to say I'm slow or lazy though. I'll sprint, either to chase down a fleeing bully, or run away (as appropriate).
You know, I was thinking either he's completely full of it, or he's the guy I want standing beside me in a fight.:)
Fleshy human vs not so squishy car at 30mph, I kinda put my money on the car.
I play fight with kids who take martial arts. Well, it's play fighting for me. They're usually out for blood until I disarm them, or put them into a hold on the floor. It sounds like he's only ever fought under similar conditions. You gotta actually get in a fight with someone tougher than you, to find out that you're not the toughest guy around. No matter how big and bad you are, there's always someone bigger, stronger, and angrier who will put you in your place.
We all have to know when to pick our fights, and when to run.
If you always back down, you're an easy target. But, if you don't turn and run when the conclusion is obvious, you may just find yourself in the hospital.
Strength (mental and physical) and attitude go a lot farther than brute force. I look like I can fight. I won't back down unless the odds are overwhelming. I will fight if necessary.
I haven't been in a fight in probably 20 years. Well, that is I haven't had to swing on anyone else. I've taken a few punches, and kept standing there telling them that it was a bad idea to proceed. If you can block their move, or take it "like a man", it changes the fight entirely, even against bigger, stronger, and drunker opponents.
It also helps to not get you arrested in a bar for drunken disorderly behavior (or assault and battery), and the girls are more impressed if you can stop the problem before it is one.:)
"Look what we did, we sent these guys to...." is a much bigger sensation than "Look at the chunk of metal we sent up."
From the PR standpoint, the ISS is a big deal, because there are people on it. There's little interest in the almost 1,000 operational satellites floating around above us.
No one would care if Glonass 712 fell out of orbit. It would make a blurb on the news, and that would be the end of it. Now, if the ISS were to suddenly and uncontrollably deorbit, that would be international news for months or years.
The problem with advertisers data-mining and presenting ads targeted to what you've done is this. This is a real-world example.
Someone was going to buy a used refrigerator. They asked me to see what the current market value was for the used one, as well as the retail value. If the difference was small enough, they were going to just buy a new one. I spent maybe 15 minutes looking for information. For several days after that, I got targeted ads for refrigerators and large appliances. I'm not interested in seeing ads for large appliances. I was doing research for someone else. That research was done.
This happens when researching news stories as well. I go out looking for information on a huge variety of topics. It's weird some of the ads that will come crawling out of the woodwork. If I search for information on the military (vehicles, public unit information, etc), I'll suddenly get ads for military recruitment. If they cross referenced that with other searches, they may realize that I'm not looking to join. I'm categorically excluded from military service due to having eye surgery when I was younger. I've looked for further information on my surgery, just to see what the current state of the procedure is. I've mentioned it places online including here.
Sometimes their association to keywords is just plain wrong. When looking at both commercial airline crashes, and cruise ship accidents, I've been presented with ads to go on trips by each for weeks.
I look at a lot of stuff online. Someone was very insistent about the chemical composition of "Oxy-clean", so I went looking for info. If a news story comes up about an explosion, and I'm not familiar with the type of explosive, I'll go hunting for more information. I may go hunting for information about the President of Lithuania. If something happens in DC, I'll go looking for more information.
Just with the information provided in this message, with keyword association, I'm proof that the NSA doesn't monitor all postings online. Otherwise I'd already be on a rendition flight off to places unnamed. Airline crash, explosion, explosive, refrigerator, president, DC.
It may not seem like a lot, but how many pounds of explosives can you pack into a used refrigerator and have it transported in the back of a pickup truck through DC?
(Note to all three letter agencies: No, I have no intention of doing anything illegal, immoral, or unhealthy. This was just an example.)
Excuse me, I have to run. A black van just pulled up out front, and someone is knocking at the door.
For the truly paranoid, you could use a ramdrive while you're browsing, and then blow it away when you're done.
Paranoia only protects you so far, since you're working on the Internet. It's good from Point A to Point A, but not beyond that. Serious paranoids won't ever get this advice though, since they're living in a cabin way out in the wood, with no electricity, phones, no computer. But their tinfoil hat is firmly affixed to their head.:) Then again, they're also wasting ammo shooting at trees that they are sure are watching them.
Are you sure about that? Your voice communications are going over the wire unencrypted. Well, at least until it hits a digital circuit, but even that's not "safe", it's just obfuscated from sticking a speaker on the line.
They could be listening to some or all. And there's been enough information about the gov't doing it. You shouldn't believe that there are up to two listeners on any phone call. (Lowered to one when you're talking to the wife. She never listens to you, and you know it. {grin})
It's funny when people complain about the competition (Chrome & Firefox), but they're just as guilty of it (Microsoft).:) How much does MSIE check in with outside resources. I guarantee it's greater than 0.
You know, that's embedded into most of the browsers.
Firefox was a little more polite about it, but it's still pretty deep in there. I was setting up an embedded machine with Firefox (local web browsing, no Internet connection). I was really surprised how many things were in there on a clean install of it. It's not just url completion. There's "safe browsing", SSL cert verification, updates.. Well, just do an about:config and search for http:/// and then https://./ There are 29 http URL's, and 22 https URL's. That may not include remote resources that may be embedded into the code. I didn't review it to find out, but I did have a packet sniffer running while I was working to make sure there wasn't anything extra going out.
This wasn't looked at because my tinfoil hat was on too tight. These are for offline embedded machines, but they may (just may) be up on some sort of Internet connection occasionally, and that may be ungodly slow. I may not have the luxury of a few extra bytes going over the wire, if that's all I have to work with. (yes, we're talking very slow connections). And yes, it's a Linux platform, so you don't have everything and then some creating unwanted network traffic.:)
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Two in the front of the flight deck (mission commander & pilot).
Two in the rear of the flight deck (mission specialists)
Three on the mid-deck.
STS-71 and STS-61A had 8 on board. STS-71 used special seats on the mid-deck. I don't know where the 8th person sat on STS-61A. I kinda doubt it was "just have a seat on the floor there, and hold on." :)
You'd cry worse when it's an underskilled, undereducated, disinterested dispatcher who decides it's not worth sending an ambulance even though you've just said "medical emergency, need paramedics" with your specific location, from a E911 capable cell phone.
In that case, I gave up waiting after about 10 minutes. He was stable enough to put into the car, so we were speeding towards the hospital until we reached a traffic jam and were lucky that a deputy had someone pulled over. Once we were sure things were stable and the paramedics were preparing to transport him, I talked to the deputy. He was actually doing a DUI stop. Dumb drunk almost hit him. He said the DUI could wait, we were more important. Well more like "He has time to wait, he's going to jail for quite a while." He checked with dispatch, and no one had been dispatched to our original location.
We were luckier that the second time they needed to be called (about 6 months later), we got a good dispatcher. Fire rescue and paramedics were dispatched and arrived in about 3 minutes. It was too late to save him, but if we had sat around waiting for them, we'd still be questioning if he could have been saved. It's one of those rare moments that hearing sirens followed by strangers running in the front door is a good sound to hear.
Dating can be detrimental at work. As long as they're both happy, nothing bad will come of it. As soon as they have a fight, it could be opening the door for sexual harassment suits. Ya, management hopes they get married and live happily. Most workplaces don't want or need the interpersonal problems that come with dating to influence the workplace.
"We all" is a pretty broad statement. ... and I've found out what happens when you say "gun" at a TSA checkpoint. I don't really suggest it. :) At least mine was for legitimate reasons. My whole statement was "I was at the shooting range earlier today, so I may test positive for residue. I do not have a gun or any ammunition. You may search my bags to be sure." Just the word "gun" got every TSA agent looking directly at me. Oddly enough, even though my hands still smelled of gunpowder, I didn't set off their sniffer tool. They had a look in my bags anyways.
It's all in what you say and how you say it. I've asked TSA checkpoint agents about finding guns and explosives. Oddly enough, none have ever answered positively that they did. One told me that he didn't know of it ever happening at this airport, but he had heard rumor of explosives once being found at an airport 100 miles away. He did let me look in the contraband bin, but I wasn't to reach in to touch anything. :) It was the largest collection of cigarette lighters that I've ever seen. Polite questions get you a long way. :)
Well, just because you post something online that may or may not be true doesn't mean there won't be consequences for that action. I won't argue that this case was fair, but...
Say you maintained a convincing profile online of a drug dealer. You may find the local police drug squad or DEA knocking on your door. Well, more like knocking down your door with a no-knock warrant. When they don't find anything, and it becomes obvious that you were joking, it would normally be dropped. I don't know why her case is any different. The only thing I can think of is that she had a boss that wanted rid of her anyways. Once you sufficiently annoy the powers over you, they'll find any excuse to show you the door. Financially, she had been there for 21 years. She would likely be replaceable by someone for a fraction of her pay, assuming they give raises. Finding excuses to get rid of high pay staff, to replace them with cheaper counterparts isn't at all unusual.
Some people live happily in their own delusional world. To them, things are simple.
I lived close to a hospital once, and when their dispatcher would get on the radio, it would overwhelm broadcast TV stations. While I didn't really want to hear the dispatches while trying to watch TV, I did hear an awful lot of them. You are absolutely correct though. The ones I was listening to weren't at the emergency operations center (which was about 40 miles away).
I guess it would all depend on where you are. I suppose in very small towns, the dispatcher may also answer the 911 calls, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
That's a good suggestion too. :) They were all made for office/business use, where printing 100 pages and then going for a ink refill simply isn't acceptable.
On any that I've worked with, there's only been one that was a problem. It was in a law office, and they printed stuff constantly. It was full of paper dust and the rollers were shot. I didn't even bother to ask how many tens of thousands of pages they had put through it. They paid a professional (i.e., someone with spare rollers in stock) to fix it, since they needed it back in service that day, rather than waiting for me to order parts.
People really don't get that. Unfortunately, most consumer printers are made to be disposable too. I've seen so many that may last through their first set of refill cartridges (which were more expensive than the printer), only to have it fail and it ends up in the trash. So they overcharge for the crap plastic printer. They way overcharge for the replacement ink. Most people aren't looking for high quality photos. They're printing invoices and emails. When someone asks me what printer to get, I ask them what they're going to use it for. They may (just may) print some pictures on photo paper. I've seen so many people with a pack of photo paper that they've only used a couple pages from, and the rest was just text.
When I get another printer (or more like if, since I rarely print anything), I'll probably go looking for a refurb HP Laserjet 4 or 5. The damned things were indestructible.
Well, the fix for both is to kill them all. That's already been handled by the fine corporations around the world. It'll just take a little while for it to finish the job.
Come on, if one company can single handedly set up to kill all life in the Gulf of Mexico with a single event, what'll happen when more of them have "accidents"?
I always love hearing that list, when the side effects may include a
rambling list, that starts with headaches, and ends in death. It makes me not
want to take anything ever again.
You can't get the citation on this planet. It is available elsewhere.
There's something to be said for simplicity and senseless violence. Those are two of my favorite things in a movie. :) Well, if you add in dragons, naked women, and heavy artillery, then you'd have a real winner.
That's what he was saying, moron.
Don't forget the big corp methodology. Have a service cap on staff. No employee may work longer than 3 years unless they are senior management. They will be laid off, and possibly rehired at entry level pay doing the same job at the same desk, but under a new "department" name so long term incentives don't need to be paid.
Promotions are a thing of the past. If you want to get into the better job, you're more likely to get it by going fresh into a new company and lying about your skills. "I've managed a staff of 1.5 million, and increased the profit of the corp to 3 trillion per year." Most of them never check on your lies, but they'll be more than happy to brag about what a winner they just hired.
(note: Don't lie on your resume. It makes you look bad, and annoys the rest of us who now have to defend our work history because everyone else fluffs their resume.).
It all depends on the person.
For me, I can't and won't ever participate in a marathon. Shin splints pretty much eliminate me from those pesky running sports. :) Not to say I'm lazy, I just can't run for more than about a mile before I'm laying on the ground in severe pain. Not to say I'm slow or lazy though. I'll sprint, either to chase down a fleeing bully, or run away (as appropriate).
You know, I was thinking either he's completely full of it, or he's the guy I want standing beside me in a fight. :)
Fleshy human vs not so squishy car at 30mph, I kinda put my money on the car.
I play fight with kids who take martial arts. Well, it's play fighting for me. They're usually out for blood until I disarm them, or put them into a hold on the floor. It sounds like he's only ever fought under similar conditions. You gotta actually get in a fight with someone tougher than you, to find out that you're not the toughest guy around. No matter how big and bad you are, there's always someone bigger, stronger, and angrier who will put you in your place.
We all have to know when to pick our fights, and when to run.
If you always back down, you're an easy target. But, if you don't turn and run when the conclusion is obvious, you may just find yourself in the hospital.
Strength (mental and physical) and attitude go a lot farther than brute force. I look like I can fight. I won't back down unless the odds are overwhelming. I will fight if necessary.
I haven't been in a fight in probably 20 years. Well, that is I haven't had to swing on anyone else. I've taken a few punches, and kept standing there telling them that it was a bad idea to proceed. If you can block their move, or take it "like a man", it changes the fight entirely, even against bigger, stronger, and drunker opponents.
It also helps to not get you arrested in a bar for drunken disorderly behavior (or assault and battery), and the girls are more impressed if you can stop the problem before it is one. :)
Spacecraft without human pilots aren't good PR.
"Look what we did, we sent these guys to ...." is a much bigger sensation than "Look at the chunk of metal we sent up."
From the PR standpoint, the ISS is a big deal, because there are people on it. There's little interest in the almost 1,000 operational satellites floating around above us.
No one would care if Glonass 712 fell out of orbit. It would make a blurb on the news, and that would be the end of it. Now, if the ISS were to suddenly and uncontrollably deorbit, that would be international news for months or years.
That's because she crossed the road at the wrong time. Now no one will ever find out where she was going.
The problem with advertisers data-mining and presenting ads targeted to what you've done is this. This is a real-world example.
Someone was going to buy a used refrigerator. They asked me to see what the current market value was for the used one, as well as the retail value. If the difference was small enough, they were going to just buy a new one. I spent maybe 15 minutes looking for information. For several days after that, I got targeted ads for refrigerators and large appliances. I'm not interested in seeing ads for large appliances. I was doing research for someone else. That research was done.
This happens when researching news stories as well. I go out looking for information on a huge variety of topics. It's weird some of the ads that will come crawling out of the woodwork. If I search for information on the military (vehicles, public unit information, etc), I'll suddenly get ads for military recruitment. If they cross referenced that with other searches, they may realize that I'm not looking to join. I'm categorically excluded from military service due to having eye surgery when I was younger. I've looked for further information on my surgery, just to see what the current state of the procedure is. I've mentioned it places online including here.
Sometimes their association to keywords is just plain wrong. When looking at both commercial airline crashes, and cruise ship accidents, I've been presented with ads to go on trips by each for weeks.
I look at a lot of stuff online. Someone was very insistent about the chemical composition of "Oxy-clean", so I went looking for info. If a news story comes up about an explosion, and I'm not familiar with the type of explosive, I'll go hunting for more information. I may go hunting for information about the President of Lithuania. If something happens in DC, I'll go looking for more information.
Just with the information provided in this message, with keyword association, I'm proof that the NSA doesn't monitor all postings online. Otherwise I'd already be on a rendition flight off to places unnamed. Airline crash, explosion, explosive, refrigerator, president, DC.
It may not seem like a lot, but how many pounds of explosives can you pack into a used refrigerator and have it transported in the back of a pickup truck through DC?
(Note to all three letter agencies: No, I have no intention of doing anything illegal, immoral, or unhealthy. This was just an example.)
Excuse me, I have to run. A black van just pulled up out front, and someone is knocking at the door.
For the truly paranoid, you could use a ramdrive while you're browsing, and then blow it away when you're done.
Paranoia only protects you so far, since you're working on the Internet. It's good from Point A to Point A, but not beyond that. Serious paranoids won't ever get this advice though, since they're living in a cabin way out in the wood, with no electricity, phones, no computer. But their tinfoil hat is firmly affixed to their head. :) Then again, they're also wasting ammo shooting at trees that they are sure are watching them.
Are you sure about that? Your voice communications are going over the wire unencrypted. Well, at least until it hits a digital circuit, but even that's not "safe", it's just obfuscated from sticking a speaker on the line.
They could be listening to some or all. And there's been enough information about the gov't doing it. You shouldn't believe that there are up to two listeners on any phone call. (Lowered to one when you're talking to the wife. She never listens to you, and you know it. {grin})
It's funny when people complain about the competition (Chrome & Firefox), but they're just as guilty of it (Microsoft). :) How much does MSIE check in with outside resources. I guarantee it's greater than 0.
You know, that's embedded into most of the browsers.
Firefox was a little more polite about it, but it's still pretty deep in there. I was setting up an embedded machine with Firefox (local web browsing, no Internet connection). I was really surprised how many things were in there on a clean install of it. It's not just url completion. There's "safe browsing", SSL cert verification, updates.. Well, just do an about:config and search for http:/// and then https://./ There are 29 http URL's, and 22 https URL's. That may not include remote resources that may be embedded into the code. I didn't review it to find out, but I did have a packet sniffer running while I was working to make sure there wasn't anything extra going out.
This wasn't looked at because my tinfoil hat was on too tight. These are for offline embedded machines, but they may (just may) be up on some sort of Internet connection occasionally, and that may be ungodly slow. I may not have the luxury of a few extra bytes going over the wire, if that's all I have to work with. (yes, we're talking very slow connections). And yes, it's a Linux platform, so you don't have everything and then some creating unwanted network traffic. :)