Nooooooooo! Please stop perpetuating that myth. If NT had a VMS core, NT would actually be a scalable, secure, robust OS.
Yes, David Cutler, the head of NT/W2K development, was also one of the original VMS design team members, but the operating systems themselves have little in common (except for similarites between a few memory structures of interest only to device driver developers).
As for whether the NT kernel contains any purloined Prism/Mica code, that is an entirely different branch of speculation altogether....
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What Lessig doesn't point out is that technology has completely blurred the boundary that used to exist between the red circle and the white background. In the absence of DRM, there is no meaningful distinction between publishing an e-book (red circle) and making a purchased version available to a few of your 'friends' on a p2p network (white background). Or, if you prefer, there's no meaningful distinction between purchasing an e-book from a publisher, and downloading it from your p2p 'friend'.
No meaningful distinction? How about this - the sharing of copyrighted material over p2p networks without the copyright holders' permission is illegal and unethical...
Actually, the original posting used poor wording. It was about the just-released OS-independent reference platform for embedded devices, but mistakenly referred to it as the FireWire SDK, which is platform dependent and has been out for some time now.
While pingames certainly aren't doing as well as they once were, reports of the death of pinball are certainly premature. There is still a big pinball market outside of the US, which Stern (the only remaining manufacturer) is happy to serve.
Domestically, the market is shifting from arcades (where the games are seldom adequately maintained) to collectors, and the folks at Stern have realized that, modifying their design efforts to appeal more to collectors. One of their latest games, "Monopoly" (designed by the legendary Pat Lawlor, who also designed "Fun House," "Addams Family," and "Twilight Zone," among others), has been a tremendous success, to the point of extending its productions run...
I know Outlook 2001 exists, I thought it was clear by context that I was referring to an OS X-native version of it.
Ah. Didn't catch your meaning there...
And I don't find it buggy. I have several clients who use it and the worst issue I've seen is a 'selected radio button is invisible' cosmetic problem.
There are several showstopper bugs from an enterprise environment standpoint. Biggest one for us is that Outlook:mac won't auto-accept room resource reservations. Not to mention feature omissions such as the lack of support for plain-text or HTML mail (RTF only), and no Palm sync.
Outlook 8.2.2, now THAT was a piece of shit.
Agreed. I'm not even sure that the phrase "better than nothing" even applies here...
...and Outlook, arguably the most important app under the Office umbrella for corporate purchasers who can easily afford Microsoft's extortionate pricing, has not even begun to be developed (AFAIK).
Outlook for MacOS exists (Outlook:mac 2001), but it is buggy as hell, and requires Classic...
You can run XDarwin (X server) through Aqua. You can run it rooted or rootless. So you can, if you wish, have X apps and Mac OS X apps running side by side on the desktop. Yes you can run Gnome through it (I dont, but it does work). The kernel (the important part) is exactly as it came from BSD - and thus under the BSD license. It is open, and I have seen non-apple drivers for many devices.
Actually, Mac OS X does not use the BSD kernel. It has a BSD "personality" layer sitting atop the Mach kernel.
I saw the real thing several years ago in a lobby to one of the upper floors of the Harry Ransom Center here at UT. The picture is tiny, and the image faint, looking for all the world like a scrap of tinfoil with the image only visible from certain angles, manifested as a slight difference in the gloss of the surface. I can't help but wonder what it looked like when it was new.
There were many wonders to behold in that building. On that particular visit, I was "behind the ropes" to do some maintenance work on a database server sitting in the corner of one of the center's conservation rooms. Sitting near me were a remarkable array of items, ranging from a model sailboat used in the making of an old John Huston film, to a collection of original Edgar Allen Poe manuscripts. And these were items that weren't even on display. I would've love to have just spent months rummaging around in that one room...
Sadly, much of the collection of the Harry Ransom Center is accessible on to scholars on a by-reservation basis. Fortunately, plans are in place to make the collects more accessible to the public.
Funny you should mention that in reply to the previous message. There was a 3rd party speech recognition device for TI-99/4A (blanking for a moment on who made it). Fun playing base ball by speaking the names of the positions where the ball was to be thrown...
That wouldn't be a big problem. We are talking about a rural area, with an extremely low population density. I doubt that there would be more than a few households in said 15-30 mile stretch where there would be an interest in broadband access.
No, no, no... Quartz works with or without the OS update. That is the graphics layer in OS X. The OS update is required to utilize some of the Quartz enhancements in Quartz Extreme...
Shimi is purchased and freed by someone named Lars (don't remember the first name off-hand), whom she then marries. Shimi then gives birth to Owen. Owen is thin Annie's half-brother.
Mitnick managed to steal VMS source code not by cracking a VMS system, but via social hacking (i.e. posing as someone who was supposed to have access in order to obtain a password). Mitnick testified before Congress that VMS was the only OS he was not able to crack.
Actually, we still run quite a bit of VESTed code. Interestingly enough, it is expected that it will be possible to take VAX software VESTed to run on Alpha and then VEST it again to run on IA-64...
"It's a real shame that Compaq cut off the DEC.com and Digital.com "
Er, typing "http://www.digital.com" into my browser takes me to Compaq's website. "http://www.dec.com" takes me to "http://www.openvms.compaq.com", as does "http://www.openvms.digital.com"....
"Seriously, the thing I'm curious about is what's going to happen to the Unix divisions? Both HP and Compaq have their own flavors of Unix. Will we see a merging of the two (Join me...and together we will rule the root as father and son!) or will they decide to ditch both, and focus on a FreeBSD-GNU/Linux style solution?"
It was announced quite some time ago that efforts to port Tru64 Unix to IA-64 were being halted. HPQ will move forward with HPUX running on IA-64 with some juicy bits from Tru64 rolled in. Also, OpenVMS and NonStop NSK are being ported to IA-64 as well.
XP? Hate to break it to you, but XP is not a server OS. It does not provide server functionality. The follow-on to Windows 2000 server,.NET server, is yet to be released.
NeXT failed because the hardware was dumb. It started with a 4bit grey-scale display when EGA, VGA, and Amiga graphics were not only better, but cheaper. NeXT boxes only had CD-ROMs for removable media. The only way they could share data was on a network, and only the far more expensive machines were online.
Hey, NeXT is still around. They acquired Apple for a negative dollar ammount.;)
The NeXT OS is still around, by the way. It is now called MacOS X --- veeery nice oS...
I should also point out that that the optical drive in the old NeXT hardware was not merely a CD-ROM. It was a writable magneto-optical drive. That particular drive was available for other systems, but it never really caught on very well, despite being a big improvement over floppies in terms of capacity.
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"Why is it unethical though?"
Because it is stealing. Why do folks have such a hard time understanding this concept these days?
"it's called WinNT and it has a VMS"
Nooooooooo! Please stop perpetuating that myth. If NT had a VMS core, NT would actually be a scalable, secure, robust OS.
Yes, David Cutler, the head of NT/W2K development, was also one of the original VMS design team members, but the operating systems themselves have little in common (except for similarites between a few memory structures of interest only to device driver developers).
As for whether the NT kernel contains any purloined Prism/Mica code, that is an entirely different branch of speculation altogether....
No meaningful distinction? How about this - the sharing of copyrighted material over p2p networks without the copyright holders' permission is illegal and unethical...
Actually, the original posting used poor wording. It was about the just-released OS-independent reference platform for embedded devices, but mistakenly referred to it as the FireWire SDK, which is platform dependent and has been out for some time now.
The FireWire reference platform IS OS-independent. The SDK you reference is Mac-specific. SDKs for other platforms are available from other sources.
The vacuum energy density of the early universe was much higher. I suspect that this is the cause of their results...
Time to dust off my old quantum mechanics texts...
While pingames certainly aren't doing as well as they once were, reports of the death of pinball are certainly premature. There is still a big pinball market outside of the US, which Stern (the only remaining manufacturer) is happy to serve.
Domestically, the market is shifting from arcades (where the games are seldom adequately maintained) to collectors, and the folks at Stern have realized that, modifying their design efforts to appeal more to collectors. One of their latest games, "Monopoly" (designed by the legendary Pat Lawlor, who also designed "Fun House," "Addams Family," and "Twilight Zone," among others), has been a tremendous success, to the point of extending its productions run...
"The robots can't help you..."Ah. Didn't catch your meaning there...
There are several showstopper bugs from an enterprise environment standpoint. Biggest one for us is that Outlook:mac won't auto-accept room resource reservations. Not to mention feature omissions such as the lack of support for plain-text or HTML mail (RTF only), and no Palm sync.
Agreed. I'm not even sure that the phrase "better than nothing" even applies here...
Outlook for MacOS exists (Outlook:mac 2001), but it is buggy as hell, and requires Classic...
Actually, Mac OS X does not use the BSD kernel. It has a BSD "personality" layer sitting atop the Mach kernel.
Yes, it was very near the end. Alas, the 99/8 never saw the light of day...
I saw the real thing several years ago in a lobby to one of the upper floors of the Harry Ransom Center here at UT. The picture is tiny, and the image faint, looking for all the world like a scrap of tinfoil with the image only visible from certain angles, manifested as a slight difference in the gloss of the surface. I can't help but wonder what it looked like when it was new.
There were many wonders to behold in that building. On that particular visit, I was "behind the ropes" to do some maintenance work on a database server sitting in the corner of one of the center's conservation rooms. Sitting near me were a remarkable array of items, ranging from a model sailboat used in the making of an old John Huston film, to a collection of original Edgar Allen Poe manuscripts. And these were items that weren't even on display. I would've love to have just spent months rummaging around in that one room...
Sadly, much of the collection of the Harry Ransom Center is accessible on to scholars on a by-reservation basis. Fortunately, plans are in place to make the collects more accessible to the public.
Funny you should mention that in reply to the previous message. There was a 3rd party speech recognition device for TI-99/4A (blanking for a moment on who made it). Fun playing base ball by speaking the names of the positions where the ball was to be thrown...
That wouldn't be a big problem. We are talking about a rural area, with an extremely low population density. I doubt that there would be more than a few households in said 15-30 mile stretch where there would be an interest in broadband access.
No, no, no... Quartz works with or without the OS update. That is the graphics layer in OS X. The OS update is required to utilize some of the Quartz enhancements in Quartz Extreme...
He certainly has a problem with it, and says so in the film in no uncertain terms.
Shimi is purchased and freed by someone named Lars (don't remember the first name off-hand), whom she then marries. Shimi then gives birth to Owen. Owen is thin Annie's half-brother.
Mitnick managed to steal VMS source code not by cracking a VMS system, but via social hacking (i.e. posing as someone who was supposed to have access in order to obtain a password). Mitnick testified before Congress that VMS was the only OS he was not able to crack.
Actually, we still run quite a bit of VESTed code. Interestingly enough, it is expected that it will be possible to take VAX software VESTed to run on Alpha and then VEST it again to run on IA-64...
Er, typing "http://www.digital.com" into my browser takes me to Compaq's website. "http://www.dec.com" takes me to "http://www.openvms.compaq.com", as does "http://www.openvms.digital.com"....
It was announced quite some time ago that efforts to port Tru64 Unix to IA-64 were being halted. HPQ will move forward with HPUX running on IA-64 with some juicy bits from Tru64 rolled in. Also, OpenVMS and NonStop NSK are being ported to IA-64 as well.
Actually, HP spun off their test equipment line into a new company, Agilent, back in 1999.
Long live RPN!
XP? Hate to break it to you, but XP is not a server OS. It does not provide server functionality. The follow-on to Windows 2000 server, .NET server, is yet to be released.
Odd. I had no difficulty whatsoever trying it out from OmniWeb without changing the identity...
Hey, NeXT is still around. They acquired Apple for a negative dollar ammount. ;)
The NeXT OS is still around, by the way. It is now called MacOS X --- veeery nice oS...
I should also point out that that the optical drive in the old NeXT hardware was not merely a CD-ROM. It was a writable magneto-optical drive. That particular drive was available for other systems, but it never really caught on very well, despite being a big improvement over floppies in terms of capacity.