I couldn't agree more. However, I think it is very important to let the reins out slowly. The jump from getting everywhere on foot (or bicycle) to driving is a huge one in terms of responsibility and freedom. This device seems to be a good way to break up this huge jump by saying, "Yes you can now spread your wings a little, but we will be checking exactly where you are spreading them until you earn the right to take the next step. I wouldn't class this as 'coddling' but more as demonstrating that certain rights have to be earned. I have known several people who killed themselves on the road within a year of getting their driving license and many more who (in my opinion) are lucky to be alive. I was often laughed at for driving at reasonable speed and following basic road rules but if my circle were going anywhere and there were a few cars to travelling in... mine was always full:).
Managing the jumps in freedom is one of the biggest parental responsibilities. This is clearly demonstrated by all the students who gain their first feeling of independance when they go to university and decide that the best thing to do would be to drink themselves to death.
This is exactly what I would do. Get job, buy and maintain own car, earn privacy. Besides, there is a huge difference between knowing where your car (and child) is and evesdropping on their conversations etc.
Even at the age of 25 I am starting to think that the world we be better off if children had a few less freedoms. I probably would have felt different 10 years ago however:).
Such an "abundance of sensitivity" shown in not trying to finacially ruin a grieving family. I do hope the pope has been informed, beautification must begin immediately!
Well at least all those people who have been asking, "Where will RIAA draw the line?" have had their questions answered. Clearly the answer is, "Somewhere between 12 year old girls and dead people".
This is what I am starting to worry about. I had held to a naieve hope that Google could demonstrate that it could be successful without messing around with stuff like this. If there was a specific case of someone clearly abusing their trademark (for example and MSN add that read... "Come to MSN and google the internet") then I would say... yes.... that qualifies as, "Taking the piss" in my book.
But sending general threats? If this is true I am concerned. Honestly thought that they were above it.
Maybe theorectically, but the BBC is a little too powerful for the government to want to mess around with too much. More likely, if they step out of line, Tony Blair gets on the phone to one of his ex-roommates (who, by an amazing stroke of luck, is now a member of the house of lords!) and gets him to conduct a 'inquiry'. 6 months and a few million pounds of tax payers money later, the aforementioned lord declares Blair in the right, the BBC in the wrong and everyone stares in amazement at the verdict. A few weeks later we all forget about it... and live happily ever after!
The surprise twist being, that right at the end of the case it is confirmed that the RIAA lawyer has actually been dead the whole time! (at least when judged by the heart still beating rather than being ice cold to the core criteria).
Not in TNG, then it was the command officers in the red shirts. My theory, is that by this point in time, the federation were beginning to run a little low on the red shirts and figured they better start issuing the remainder to the less expendable members of the crew. Either that or it was a gesture of the memorial to all the red shirted folks that Kirk lead to their deaths.
Yes, it is a nice gesture of how sincere they are about making you pay twice for the movie. Once for the download and again for the blank media to burn it to.
Well at all of 25, I am probably out of touch now but the "Generic" term is trousers AFAIK. For example... "What trousers should I wear today? Perhaps my jeans?".:)
Funny story, my wife is Canadian and some time ago while in Florida on holiday (read: vacation). She asked if we could stop as a shopping centre (read: mall) to look for some 'Cacky Pants'. To her, this phrase describes those lightweight, cotton, military styled 'trousers'.
To me, it describes, "Soiled underwear". There was a short moment of total confusion while we unravelled that one.
Living with someone from the opposite side of the atlantic really puts meaning to the phrase, "Two nations divided by a common language":).
What happens when you hit the border? Is there a passport checkpoint?
It is probably biometrics now but who cares when there is so much to do in this universe. Infact, anyone who wants to leave this universe is clearly unpatriotic anyway.
It would seem to support the theory. Whether you love or hate Apple, it is not hard to make a case for Steve being one of the best tech executives in history. Clearly the nominal salary is a statement that he is already stupidly wealthy but he must get something out of being a top exec, otherwise, why keep at it? Generally, people who enjoy their job perform far better than those that just work to pay the bills (or buy another fighter jet). I always get the feeling that Jobs truely enjoys what he does. I think Bill Gates did too, until recently, so he is quitting to focus on Philanthropy. No doubt he will excel there too.
What does a photo management application do if not spend the vast majority of their time waiting for input or shifting memory around?
Clearly, I was not involved in the development of this particular project, but many image processing applications are processor bound. Companies like pixar need tremendous processing power to do the kind of heavy lifting required to render their movies. This is not a sensible application of Java. I made the assumption that this was where the grandparent's application was slow, in the image manipulation. Maybe it was a flawed assumption, but it is based on the information available.
Managed code has always been pushed by Sun and more recently Microsoft as The Way to develop all new applications, not just some.
Some types of client side application are well suited to Java or C#. There are some that are not, and the only people who think that you can write any application in Java are those who work for Sun or Microsoft's marketing department. No decent developer that I have every met (Sun/Microsoft employee or not) would seriously suggest that we have a 'one size fits all' language available today. Selecting the right tools for the job is part of the software developer's role. Selecting the wrong tool for the job is poor workmanship, by definition.
no matter how good a programmer you are, Java client side apps will always suck, it is inherant to the design of the platform.
Nonsense! My Java IDE is 100% pure Java and performs to a level that I am completely satisfied with. If it did not, I would not pay the license fee. I have personally written applications in Swing that perform. It takes a little more than Sun might have you believe and you need a little experience of the platform but do not assume that just because you cannot do it, that it cannot be done.
Two hundred years ago such questions would have made sense. Today we know there isn't any mechanism for that.
From the movie 'Men in Black'....
"Kay: 1500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow."
No, I don't usually quote these kind of movies when trying to make a point, but it seemed to cover it better than I could.
I am going to assume there are some rounding errors in your 8+3 years because you are going back to a time prior to the first Java release. It is feasible that your worked for Sun but I would think you would have mentioned it.
"It's the best of both worlds"
The problem with that assertion is that software development has more than two worlds:). I remain a Java booster but even I would have raised an eyebrow if you had come to me to suggest the development of a photo manipulation tool using Java. Sure, it can be done but you can loosen a bolt with a hammer and chisel. To be perfectly frank, your example sounds like a text book example of a poor work-man blaming his tools.
There are applications that benefit from running in a managed environment, and spend the vast majority of their time waiting for input or shifting memory around. These are cases where QT and C++ would be bad choices (the consequences of 'mis-shifting' memory in a language like C++ are well documented). Java wouldn't be the only choice, but I wouldn't call you crazy (or a bad work-man) for making that choice.
Please don't fall into the trap of using the wrong tool and then blaming the tool when things go wrong. This is exactly the kind of thing that has been plastered all over these discussions for the last ten years or so.
I'm not sure what Gates's net worth is at the moment, but let's say he's got 40 billion in the bank, which is probably about right.
Gates doesn't have close to $40 billion in the bank. He just owns a huge chunk of stock in the worlds biggest software company (and, undoubtedly, various other companies). If MS collapsed tomorrow, Gates would still be insane-o rich, but definatly not the worlds richest man (assuming he is already, I have my doubts. I suspect there are others with more reason to stay out of the spotlight and a more..... diverse.... set of interests).
It is possible that he might be able to find a consortium that would buy all of his stock for $40 billion cash but they would probably want this pesky EU issue sorted first.
Easily solved, just prosecute everyone to the full extent of the law. If the judge throws out the case, you can blame the lenient judge rather than the flaws in the system.
Ok here's a tip I got from my karate instructor, when someone's spoiling for a fight and are clearly about to start flailing, ask them a question, something dumb, irrelevant and obscure. When they take their eyes off you to think about it you kick them in the balls and run for it.
Ahh yes, the traditional and time honoured "Wun Lik Fuk" move.
ballmer's big problem is he is inflicted with IP disease....and he needs a cure
Perhaps this is the reason that Billy G is focusing on his foundation. He wants to channel more of his time and money in to finding a cure for the horrific and cruel affliction of "Being Steve Ballmer".
Still, wouldn't mind swapping bank accounts with the guy.
You bougth one copy of the DVD, you own it. No question about it.
There is a distinction between the disk and it's content. You own the disk, but you license the content. You are free to do whatever you wish with the disk because you own it, but you cannot use the disk to redistributed the content because you don't own it.
True, there is not license agreement when you buy a DVD, but there isn't a transfer of ownership agreement for the disk (or anything you buy in a high street shop for that matter). These things are considered 'implied' and have grown out of convention.
But that's because of copyrigth-law[sic], and not because of any legal-sounding bullshit on the disc itself.
That legal sounding bullshit is the copyright law (not a comprehensive account but a short, relevant summary). You are right that it does not constitute any kind of futher agreement, it is simply placed on the disk to prevent the use of the 'ignorance defence' if the copyright owners bring a breach case to court. The perp cannot claim ignorance of the rules because the rules are made clear in an unskippable fashion. These rules exist before the disk is viewed and are implied.
Frankly, it is reasonable that copyright holders do not agree to public performances of DVDs bought for personal use. It is also reasonable that they do not agree to ad-hoc copying and redistribution (and whether you abide by this or not is your business, it is also their responsibility to enforce... and not the police!).
All of these hinges of the 'implied' part of the agreement. It is reasonable to say that these kind of restrictions are 'common sense' (why would someone produce an expensive movie and release it into an environment where someone can purchase one copy and share it with everyone?). However, it is also reasonable to expect a disk to be usable on any device designed for the purpose of playing that type of disk, universal compatibility should be considered 'implicit' along with basic copyright agreements. If the disk is not universially compatible then it should be made 'explicit'.
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I couldn't agree more. However, I think it is very important to let the reins out slowly. The jump from getting everywhere on foot (or bicycle) to driving is a huge one in terms of responsibility and freedom. This device seems to be a good way to break up this huge jump by saying, "Yes you can now spread your wings a little, but we will be checking exactly where you are spreading them until you earn the right to take the next step. I wouldn't class this as 'coddling' but more as demonstrating that certain rights have to be earned. I have known several people who killed themselves on the road within a year of getting their driving license and many more who (in my opinion) are lucky to be alive. I was often laughed at for driving at reasonable speed and following basic road rules but if my circle were going anywhere and there were a few cars to travelling in... mine was always full :).
Managing the jumps in freedom is one of the biggest parental responsibilities. This is clearly demonstrated by all the students who gain their first feeling of independance when they go to university and decide that the best thing to do would be to drink themselves to death.
I can just see hundreds of parents congratulating themselves on doing such an excellent job because their son/daughter drives at -120MPH.
This is exactly what I would do. Get job, buy and maintain own car, earn privacy. Besides, there is a huge difference between knowing where your car (and child) is and evesdropping on their conversations etc.
:).
Even at the age of 25 I am starting to think that the world we be better off if children had a few less freedoms. I probably would have felt different 10 years ago however
Perhaps AOL are just commisioning this project to demonstrate capability and win the contract to issue sopenas for the RIAA.
Such an "abundance of sensitivity" shown in not trying to finacially ruin a grieving family. I do hope the pope has been informed, beautification must begin immediately!
Well at least all those people who have been asking, "Where will RIAA draw the line?" have had their questions answered. Clearly the answer is, "Somewhere between 12 year old girls and dead people".
See, Google is starting to become Evil.
This is what I am starting to worry about. I had held to a naieve hope that Google could demonstrate that it could be successful without messing around with stuff like this. If there was a specific case of someone clearly abusing their trademark (for example and MSN add that read... "Come to MSN and google the internet") then I would say... yes.... that qualifies as, "Taking the piss" in my book.
But sending general threats? If this is true I am concerned. Honestly thought that they were above it.
Maybe theorectically, but the BBC is a little too powerful for the government to want to mess around with too much. More likely, if they step out of line, Tony Blair gets on the phone to one of his ex-roommates (who, by an amazing stroke of luck, is now a member of the house of lords!) and gets him to conduct a 'inquiry'. 6 months and a few million pounds of tax payers money later, the aforementioned lord declares Blair in the right, the BBC in the wrong and everyone stares in amazement at the verdict. A few weeks later we all forget about it... and live happily ever after!
;)
Did I mention that I am a little cynical?
The surprise twist being, that right at the end of the case it is confirmed that the RIAA lawyer has actually been dead the whole time! (at least when judged by the heart still beating rather than being ice cold to the core criteria).
Not in TNG, then it was the command officers in the red shirts. My theory, is that by this point in time, the federation were beginning to run a little low on the red shirts and figured they better start issuing the remainder to the less expendable members of the crew. Either that or it was a gesture of the memorial to all the red shirted folks that Kirk lead to their deaths.
Ahhh yes, summary was misleading. Thanks for the clarification.
but it's a nice gesture of sincerity. :)
Yes, it is a nice gesture of how sincere they are about making you pay twice for the movie. Once for the download and again for the blank media to burn it to.
Well at all of 25, I am probably out of touch now but the "Generic" term is trousers AFAIK. For example... "What trousers should I wear today? Perhaps my jeans?". :)
So what are pants in the UK? :-)
:).
Trousers.
Funny story, my wife is Canadian and some time ago while in Florida on holiday (read: vacation). She asked if we could stop as a shopping centre (read: mall) to look for some 'Cacky Pants'. To her, this phrase describes those lightweight, cotton, military styled 'trousers'.
To me, it describes, "Soiled underwear". There was a short moment of total confusion while we unravelled that one.
Living with someone from the opposite side of the atlantic really puts meaning to the phrase, "Two nations divided by a common language"
What happens when you hit the border? Is there a passport checkpoint?
It is probably biometrics now but who cares when there is so much to do in this universe. Infact, anyone who wants to leave this universe is clearly unpatriotic anyway.
It would seem to support the theory. Whether you love or hate Apple, it is not hard to make a case for Steve being one of the best tech executives in history. Clearly the nominal salary is a statement that he is already stupidly wealthy but he must get something out of being a top exec, otherwise, why keep at it? Generally, people who enjoy their job perform far better than those that just work to pay the bills (or buy another fighter jet). I always get the feeling that Jobs truely enjoys what he does. I think Bill Gates did too, until recently, so he is quitting to focus on Philanthropy. No doubt he will excel there too.
What does a photo management application do if not spend the vast majority of their time waiting for input or shifting memory around?
Clearly, I was not involved in the development of this particular project, but many image processing applications are processor bound. Companies like pixar need tremendous processing power to do the kind of heavy lifting required to render their movies. This is not a sensible application of Java. I made the assumption that this was where the grandparent's application was slow, in the image manipulation. Maybe it was a flawed assumption, but it is based on the information available.
Managed code has always been pushed by Sun and more recently Microsoft as The Way to develop all new applications, not just some.
Some types of client side application are well suited to Java or C#. There are some that are not, and the only people who think that you can write any application in Java are those who work for Sun or Microsoft's marketing department. No decent developer that I have every met (Sun/Microsoft employee or not) would seriously suggest that we have a 'one size fits all' language available today. Selecting the right tools for the job is part of the software developer's role. Selecting the wrong tool for the job is poor workmanship, by definition.
no matter how good a programmer you are, Java client side apps will always suck, it is inherant to the design of the platform.
Nonsense! My Java IDE is 100% pure Java and performs to a level that I am completely satisfied with. If it did not, I would not pay the license fee. I have personally written applications in Swing that perform. It takes a little more than Sun might have you believe and you need a little experience of the platform but do not assume that just because you cannot do it, that it cannot be done.
I am playing devil's advocate a little but...
Two hundred years ago such questions would have made sense. Today we know there isn't any mechanism for that.
From the movie 'Men in Black'....
"Kay: 1500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow."
No, I don't usually quote these kind of movies when trying to make a point, but it seemed to cover it better than I could.
I am going to assume there are some rounding errors in your 8+3 years because you are going back to a time prior to the first Java release. It is feasible that your worked for Sun but I would think you would have mentioned it.
:). I remain a Java booster but even I would have raised an eyebrow if you had come to me to suggest the development of a photo manipulation tool using Java. Sure, it can be done but you can loosen a bolt with a hammer and chisel. To be perfectly frank, your example sounds like a text book example of a poor work-man blaming his tools.
"It's the best of both worlds"
The problem with that assertion is that software development has more than two worlds
There are applications that benefit from running in a managed environment, and spend the vast majority of their time waiting for input or shifting memory around. These are cases where QT and C++ would be bad choices (the consequences of 'mis-shifting' memory in a language like C++ are well documented). Java wouldn't be the only choice, but I wouldn't call you crazy (or a bad work-man) for making that choice.
Please don't fall into the trap of using the wrong tool and then blaming the tool when things go wrong. This is exactly the kind of thing that has been plastered all over these discussions for the last ten years or so.
I'm not sure what Gates's net worth is at the moment, but let's say he's got 40 billion in the bank, which is probably about right.
Gates doesn't have close to $40 billion in the bank. He just owns a huge chunk of stock in the worlds biggest software company (and, undoubtedly, various other companies). If MS collapsed tomorrow, Gates would still be insane-o rich, but definatly not the worlds richest man (assuming he is already, I have my doubts. I suspect there are others with more reason to stay out of the spotlight and a more..... diverse.... set of interests).
It is possible that he might be able to find a consortium that would buy all of his stock for $40 billion cash but they would probably want this pesky EU issue sorted first.
I bet false positives will be enormous..
Easily solved, just prosecute everyone to the full extent of the law. If the judge throws out the case, you can blame the lenient judge rather than the flaws in the system.
Surely it would be cheaper and easier to simply ensure that the inflight entertainment has a decent porn library.
Ok here's a tip I got from my karate instructor, when someone's spoiling for a fight and are clearly about to start flailing, ask them a question, something dumb, irrelevant and obscure. When they take their eyes off you to think about it you kick them in the balls and run for it.
Ahh yes, the traditional and time honoured "Wun Lik Fuk" move.
ballmer's big problem is he is inflicted with IP disease....and he needs a cure
Perhaps this is the reason that Billy G is focusing on his foundation. He wants to channel more of his time and money in to finding a cure for the horrific and cruel affliction of "Being Steve Ballmer".
Still, wouldn't mind swapping bank accounts with the guy.
Well if anyone can come up with a unexpected and creative solution to that problem, it's you :)
You bougth one copy of the DVD, you own it. No question about it.
There is a distinction between the disk and it's content. You own the disk, but you license the content. You are free to do whatever you wish with the disk because you own it, but you cannot use the disk to redistributed the content because you don't own it.
True, there is not license agreement when you buy a DVD, but there isn't a transfer of ownership agreement for the disk (or anything you buy in a high street shop for that matter). These things are considered 'implied' and have grown out of convention.
But that's because of copyrigth-law[sic], and not because of any legal-sounding bullshit on the disc itself.
That legal sounding bullshit is the copyright law (not a comprehensive account but a short, relevant summary). You are right that it does not constitute any kind of futher agreement, it is simply placed on the disk to prevent the use of the 'ignorance defence' if the copyright owners bring a breach case to court. The perp cannot claim ignorance of the rules because the rules are made clear in an unskippable fashion. These rules exist before the disk is viewed and are implied.
Frankly, it is reasonable that copyright holders do not agree to public performances of DVDs bought for personal use. It is also reasonable that they do not agree to ad-hoc copying and redistribution (and whether you abide by this or not is your business, it is also their responsibility to enforce... and not the police!).
All of these hinges of the 'implied' part of the agreement. It is reasonable to say that these kind of restrictions are 'common sense' (why would someone produce an expensive movie and release it into an environment where someone can purchase one copy and share it with everyone?). However, it is also reasonable to expect a disk to be usable on any device designed for the purpose of playing that type of disk, universal compatibility should be considered 'implicit' along with basic copyright agreements. If the disk is not universially compatible then it should be made 'explicit'.