Really? As someone who has owned Macs for 15 years, I enjoy heckling you zealous idiots who have blind faith in your "superior product" -- which nice, but in fact is only marginally better at some things and marginally worse at others.
(And six years puts you back in the OS 9 era, which was superior at nothing.)
1. Packet filtering capabilities, per-use administrator rights -- from Linux.
First, Linux invented neither. Second, the security model in Vista will be more sophisticated than anything shipping with Linux today. (Whether or not it works well is another question.)
The age of the compelling application is mostly over because existing hardware (even systems several years old, and thus dirt cheap) fulfill almost all of the average person's computing needs.
Factually: New computer sales figures disagree with your random opinions.
People keep buying new machines, and starting next year, they will nearly all come with Vista. After about four years, 80% of the installed base will have turned over and will be mostly running Vista (or successors). It is inevitable.
Typical Mac-biased moderation. There's no real "insightfulness" in specualtion about how unreleased software might be worse than Apple's stuff, or might not even ship.
For some reason, whenever there's a thread about Vista, the 100% Mac Loyalists see an invitation to start a big circle-jerk. Give it up. The basic marketshare figures (97% versus 2%) didn't change with Windows 2000, XP, OS X 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4, and they won't change with Vista. Spare the hot air.
There's a driver glitch with brand new hardware!!! It's already been two weeks and they haven't fixed it yet!! What does this mean for the computing landscape? Is this Wintel's downfall? Will Apple return to their days of prominence? The implications could be enormous!
And it's hard to take new technologies into the consumer marketplace because it's so diverse. It's much easier to introduce them in rigidly controlled and centrally funded and managed enterprise IT environments.
"Rigidly controlled" and "centrally managed" pretty much sums up the Mac userbase.
Being able to "slam" buyers onto USB or new CPU is far more power than any corporate PC vendor has -- IBM tried a long time ago and look where it got them. Apple can get away with it because everyone who doesn't having their computing experience dictated to them has more-or-less bailed from the platform.
Anyway, you're trying to elevate the consumer market into a position of superiority. Except in the PC market, consumer==low profit garbage. (Except for a few niche markets such as Macintoshes, Alienware, and some Media Center stuff. Maybe 10% of the market total.) The basic consumer PC is still filter-down from corporate stuff.
Having it separate from the rest of the browser also means it doesn't play well with the rest of the content on the page. For example, it's limited to a rectangular box. In contrast, SVG can (theoretically) be mixed with XHTML in the same file, so you could have XHTML inside of SVG inside of XHTML
This has to be the greatest web advertising technology ever invented.
The G5 faster than the P4 but not the Pentium M or the AMD parts.
Even that's arguable, and was based on (A) Dubious SPEC scores that Apple never had the nuts to submit officially, and (B) a version of Quake 3 that was coded for SMP on Mac but not Intel.
A files icon is assigned by the operating system according to what type of file it actually appears to be
So, what you're saying is that it's impossible for applications to have custom icons in Linux shells? That would seem abnormal (relative to Mac and Windows).
Yes, at the high-end, they are competitively priced. The question has always been about the low-end and the overall bredth of model selection. Now that Apple is structurally cost-competitive with the rest of the PC industry, many of us hope they will resolve those complaints.
You imply that consumers didn't like the fact 80s cars sucked. When the reality was just the opposite -- 1980s consumers shopped MPG, and the most efficient cars sold better.
Now we have higher speedlimits, and things like 50-70MPH acceleration is more important. But I don't think that alters my perception that modern middle-of-the-road sedans and SUVs are vastly overpowered and therefore a lot more inefficient than they will be in a few years when market demands work their way into the engineering requirements.
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Um, technically, "years" would be "at least two years"
Would you say "1.2 Year"? If so, you would be wrong.
So, it went 14 months once and 11 months once between upgrades, which is ridiclous. Getting uptight at the OP's (slightly exaggerated) wording was not at all justified.
Most businesses I've worked at do not allow flash players to be installed
Either you work a very particlar industry, or you are fibbing through your teeth. Flash Player comes with Windows and MacOS -- there is no broader movement to ban it.
This is exactly the duplicitous attitude I'm talking about. Couldn't one just as easily say "I use Flash for interactive diagrams, but use SVGBlock to get rid of annoying ads"? Or you could if anyone actually used SVG.
Apart from that, executables are either folder bundles with the (hidden?).app extension or any other file set to be executable via the standard Unix/Posix way.
Actually, I get the impression that this is an old-style Mac executable, which does not use the.app extention. Instead it uses a hidden "APPL" file type which is not normally visiable to the user. This is a fundemental issue that goes back to the original MacOS in 1984 -- there's just no easy way to distingish an executable from a non executable file on Mac systems.
Furthermore, it appears that the default perms on OSX provide +X access to everyone, everywhere so traditional *nix-style "chmod" is never needed.
Just to be clear, 98% of the "viruses" which affect Windows boxes are actually trojans, and the other 2% are worms. There's very few true viruses anymore for any platform.
I suspect most of the Flash-Haters hate it for what it does, and not because it could be replaced by another standards-compliant, but equally annoying technology. (In other words, you won't find anyone who suddenly enjoys "punching the monkey" just because the monkey is in SVG.)
And, as per usual, any discussion about Flash tends to stereotype Linux users as stubborn, backwards types that hate everything that regular people like about computers. Great image to project about yourselves, guys.
Make no doubts about it -- the AHRA was a "deal" that congress cut with the RIAA that arguably limits fair-use rights. On the other hand, it states plainly that in the law of the land that one cannot be sued for "private noncommercial" digital music copying.
(And I have to comment about yet another crappy Wikipedia article. Please spare us the obvious bias and the "... including a homecooked meal" melodramatic BS.)
Yes, but your Volvo is pushing what, 100hp? Less, perhaps?
Well, that's kind of the point. Despite the rise in gas prices, current cars are tuned predominately for high HP and fast acceleration. A modern Accord or Camry is faster than many "muscle cars" like Mustangs from 20 years ago.
If a Honda Accord from 1987 could get 35+MPG highway with an unsophisticated, non-computer, carberated engine, yet still be a drivable car, it's realistic to believe that mainstream 2006 autos could get 40+MPG without going to exotic Hybrid engines etc. You just wouldn't have that 250 HP that you don't need.
American companies switched to liters in the early 80s to hide the fact that they were replacing 350ci engines with 200ci engines in most mainstream cars.
Also, in America, anything that is European is automatically perceived to be more sophisticated (which is either good or bad, depending).
So, you want to use someone's library, but you want no responsiblity for how it works, and you don't even want to host it. Why stop there? Why not demand that someone provide an entire application for you that you can pull under your domain name?
FWIW, there is a way to write JS libraries that are automatically fetched and stay in their own namespace, but it's specific to IE & Windows.
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Really? As someone who has owned Macs for 15 years, I enjoy heckling you zealous idiots who have blind faith in your "superior product" -- which nice, but in fact is only marginally better at some things and marginally worse at others.
(And six years puts you back in the OS 9 era, which was superior at nothing.)
1. Packet filtering capabilities, per-use administrator rights -- from Linux.
First, Linux invented neither. Second, the security model in Vista will be more sophisticated than anything shipping with Linux today. (Whether or not it works well is another question.)
The age of the compelling application is mostly over because existing hardware (even systems several years old, and thus dirt cheap) fulfill almost all of the average person's computing needs.
Factually: New computer sales figures disagree with your random opinions.
People keep buying new machines, and starting next year, they will nearly all come with Vista. After about four years, 80% of the installed base will have turned over and will be mostly running Vista (or successors). It is inevitable.
Typical Mac-biased moderation. There's no real "insightfulness" in specualtion about how unreleased software might be worse than Apple's stuff, or might not even ship.
For some reason, whenever there's a thread about Vista, the 100% Mac Loyalists see an invitation to start a big circle-jerk. Give it up. The basic marketshare figures (97% versus 2%) didn't change with Windows 2000, XP, OS X 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4, and they won't change with Vista. Spare the hot air.
Yes, in order to view "secure" windows media content, you have to have a special monitor which can decode the encrypted content in the first place
Yes, and the MPAA will give Apple an exception to this rule, because Apple computers are like shiny and stuff. Whatever you say.
Or, more likely, OS X will "limit" you in the exact same way. (And by "limit", they mean "allow you to play Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on your computer.")
There's a driver glitch with brand new hardware!!! It's already been two weeks and they haven't fixed it yet!! What does this mean for the computing landscape? Is this Wintel's downfall? Will Apple return to their days of prominence? The implications could be enormous!
And it's hard to take new technologies into the consumer marketplace because it's so diverse. It's much easier to introduce them in rigidly controlled and centrally funded and managed enterprise IT environments.
"Rigidly controlled" and "centrally managed" pretty much sums up the Mac userbase.
Being able to "slam" buyers onto USB or new CPU is far more power than any corporate PC vendor has -- IBM tried a long time ago and look where it got them. Apple can get away with it because everyone who doesn't having their computing experience dictated to them has more-or-less bailed from the platform.
Anyway, you're trying to elevate the consumer market into a position of superiority. Except in the PC market, consumer==low profit garbage. (Except for a few niche markets such as Macintoshes, Alienware, and some Media Center stuff. Maybe 10% of the market total.) The basic consumer PC is still filter-down from corporate stuff.
Having it separate from the rest of the browser also means it doesn't play well with the rest of the content on the page. For example, it's limited to a rectangular box. In contrast, SVG can (theoretically) be mixed with XHTML in the same file, so you could have XHTML inside of SVG inside of XHTML
This has to be the greatest web advertising technology ever invented.
The G5 faster than the P4 but not the Pentium M or the AMD parts.
Even that's arguable, and was based on (A) Dubious SPEC scores that Apple never had the nuts to submit officially, and (B) a version of Quake 3 that was coded for SMP on Mac but not Intel.
This won't spread.
Why not? Because the few Mac users are too spread out for mass social engineering to be effective?
The IM part is a smart bit because iChat is somewhat biased towards Mac users.
Oh, and the +x access to the file is coming from the tar archive, just the same as it would on any UNIX style OS.
So basically all this talk about Execute permissions being a protection agains trojans on *nix is a heap of shit then?
A files icon is assigned by the operating system according to what type of file it actually appears to be
So, what you're saying is that it's impossible for applications to have custom icons in Linux shells? That would seem abnormal (relative to Mac and Windows).
Yes, at the high-end, they are competitively priced. The question has always been about the low-end and the overall bredth of model selection. Now that Apple is structurally cost-competitive with the rest of the PC industry, many of us hope they will resolve those complaints.
(BTW, in case you might be thinking I'm some sort of hippie, I drive a completely overpowered gas guzzler.)
You imply that consumers didn't like the fact 80s cars sucked. When the reality was just the opposite -- 1980s consumers shopped MPG, and the most efficient cars sold better.
Now we have higher speedlimits, and things like 50-70MPH acceleration is more important. But I don't think that alters my perception that modern middle-of-the-road sedans and SUVs are vastly overpowered and therefore a lot more inefficient than they will be in a few years when market demands work their way into the engineering requirements.
Um, technically, "years" would be "at least two years"
Would you say "1.2 Year"? If so, you would be wrong.
So, it went 14 months once and 11 months once between upgrades, which is ridiclous. Getting uptight at the OP's (slightly exaggerated) wording was not at all justified.
Most businesses I've worked at do not allow flash players to be installed
Either you work a very particlar industry, or you are fibbing through your teeth. Flash Player comes with Windows and MacOS -- there is no broader movement to ban it.
This is exactly the duplicitous attitude I'm talking about. Couldn't one just as easily say "I use Flash for interactive diagrams, but use SVGBlock to get rid of annoying ads"? Or you could if anyone actually used SVG.
Apart from that, executables are either folder bundles with the (hidden?) .app extension or any other file set to be executable via the standard Unix/Posix way.
.app extention. Instead it uses a hidden "APPL" file type which is not normally visiable to the user. This is a fundemental issue that goes back to the original MacOS in 1984 -- there's just no easy way to distingish an executable from a non executable file on Mac systems.
Actually, I get the impression that this is an old-style Mac executable, which does not use the
Furthermore, it appears that the default perms on OSX provide +X access to everyone, everywhere so traditional *nix-style "chmod" is never needed.
Sounds more like a trojan to me.
Just to be clear, 98% of the "viruses" which affect Windows boxes are actually trojans, and the other 2% are worms. There's very few true viruses anymore for any platform.
I suspect most of the Flash-Haters hate it for what it does, and not because it could be replaced by another standards-compliant, but equally annoying technology. (In other words, you won't find anyone who suddenly enjoys "punching the monkey" just because the monkey is in SVG.)
And, as per usual, any discussion about Flash tends to stereotype Linux users as stubborn, backwards types that hate everything that regular people like about computers. Great image to project about yourselves, guys.
Make no doubts about it -- the AHRA was a "deal" that congress cut with the RIAA that arguably limits fair-use rights. On the other hand, it states plainly that in the law of the land that one cannot be sued for "private noncommercial" digital music copying.
(And I have to comment about yet another crappy Wikipedia article. Please spare us the obvious bias and the "... including a homecooked meal" melodramatic BS.)
Yes, but your Volvo is pushing what, 100hp? Less, perhaps?
Well, that's kind of the point. Despite the rise in gas prices, current cars are tuned predominately for high HP and fast acceleration. A modern Accord or Camry is faster than many "muscle cars" like Mustangs from 20 years ago.
If a Honda Accord from 1987 could get 35+MPG highway with an unsophisticated, non-computer, carberated engine, yet still be a drivable car, it's realistic to believe that mainstream 2006 autos could get 40+MPG without going to exotic Hybrid engines etc. You just wouldn't have that 250 HP that you don't need.
American companies switched to liters in the early 80s to hide the fact that they were replacing 350ci engines with 200ci engines in most mainstream cars.
Also, in America, anything that is European is automatically perceived to be more sophisticated (which is either good or bad, depending).
So, you want to use someone's library, but you want no responsiblity for how it works, and you don't even want to host it. Why stop there? Why not demand that someone provide an entire application for you that you can pull under your domain name?
FWIW, there is a way to write JS libraries that are automatically fetched and stay in their own namespace, but it's specific to IE & Windows.