"You think they came up with that in Minority Report? "
Not necessarily. He used it as an example. But...
Let's do some assuming... 1. Yes, he did. Holy shit what the hell has/. come to? 2. No he didn't. He used as an example. Endit. 3. On the 3rd hand, he indeed did learn about it from the movie. Well and good, many of us tend to learn it sometime, and if we're not engineers then we're going to get it from other sources. I found out about the concept from a Heinlein story.
Note: I did not jump to the conclusion that Heinlein invented the concept. But perhaps that's just me.
I agree. It seems that there should be some kind of keepalive event. Touching the wheel should be adequate to reset the trigger every X minutes, where X is set to something like 5 X 15. Car should be able to turn on warning lights and honk its horns, and maybe slow down after another threshold is passed.
Events that could trigger the keepalive include sleep, heart attack, asphyxiation, sex.
"The pizza box is 50 km wide, but only 1.5 km tall."
Hi, just stopped in to say thanks for the info. I knew that differing orbit altitudes are not as "close" as common sense might guess, but didn't know the scale. Oh, and kudos for the mental sight picture of a giant pizza. -- I'm inexplicably reminded of Douglas Adams...how did he put it?
How do we eat? What should we eat? Where shall we have lunch? -- But I digress.
Here's some facts we can all argue about. It's more fun that way.
" The 9th Circuit’s reversal rate is higher than average, but it’s not the absolute highest among the circuit courts. That distinction goes to the 6th Circuit, which serves Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee, with an 87 percent average between 2010-15. The 9th Circuit is in third place.
"In comparison this is nothing. We should just thank them for helping us improve our weak computer security and leave it at that." "Well what would you have us do about it? "
1. Thank you rossiya for meddling in our election. I remember all those wonderful nights last summer reading the obvious russian trolls on this site and many others. I found it very annoying but you seem to have found kindred souls. 2, We are suitably chastened. We should drop all investigations, covert and overt, as the proper reaction to this.
You know, if HC had won Trumpists would be all over this and more. The bile coming from the brietbarts of the world would make what the dems are doing now look minor. Let's remember that the whole "fake news" meme came from altright (altrusskiy?) sites creating story after story about "coming to take your guns" and "fema camps" and "king obama" stuff.
Just dropping in here to mention "Yellow Journalism". Like you, I have several news sources. I'm not too happy with MSM (and I include Fox in that definition whether they like it or not).
I'll say one thing for MSM: when something big and realtime is happening, most will go to MSM to follow it. They have the resources and coverage that smaller entities do not. And, at least during whatever emergency is going on, they avoid pontificating, as there's no need to preach to the choir. Of course, biases can still come up, but it's subdued. After the 60th repeat of the 30 second clip that every channel is showing, and no new news, then they plug in the opinionators and they start flapping their gums.
And, as we know, it's not just how it's presented, it's what's presented. As many have pointed out, we must go to several news sources to find the stories that one source will bury, one source will trumpet (pun not intended), and if one gets lucky, a source that discusses the issue without emotion.
Regarding content, when I read an actual news article from Fox, I find it as reasonably factual as other sources. They will report facts that directly contradict their pundits. I've been impressed sometimes. But, the ALL CAPS folks don't seem to care...it appears that what is important to them are the talking heads telling them what to *really* altThink(tm) about the actual facts reported by their own news teams.
And lest I get dizzy on this high-horse that I'm riding, Fox is just an example. Another examples include Slashbait and Clickdot, and TFA. We all read TFA, right? altRight?
Just for grins, I thought I'd spin up some facts to argue about. It's more fun that way. Here's some c&p from the sites and times indicated.
Fox headline 1:05 PM 6/9/2017 SESSIONS, COMEY CLASH: Attorney General fires back after ex-FBI boss hints at hidden Russia conflict
Comey fallout: Similarities in Times article, testimony could bolster Trump claims
JUDGE JEANINE: Comey is a 'predator' who sought 'revenge' on Trump
'Comey is a leaker!' Trump breaks his silence on ex-FBI boss' testimony
SEAN HANNITY: Comey reveals himself to be a Deep State political hack
MEDIA BUZZ: Comey questions Trump's conduct, offers few new details
Bossie: Comey's 'political' leaks 'possibly illegal, definitely unethical'
Ex-Justice Dept. official on Comey Leak: 'Standard operating procedure'
Trump's lawyer to file complaint over leaks
CNN Headline 1:05 PM 6/9/2017 President denies Comey's claims before Senate, but refuses to say whether there are tapes of talks Trump on Comey: 'He's a leaker' So is Donald Trump secretly recording conversations or not? Senator: I'd expect Mueller to depose Trump 10 things we learned at Comey's hearing Opinion: President Trump, stop blocking me on Twitter
Yeah, that was a interesting statement to parse. Presenting logical arguments doesn't work with some people because they can't do it themselves. Or, more sadly, don't want to.
And truly, once I got over being pissed about clickbait, I got involved in some good conversations. And yes, there was the typical amount of poo-flinging, but I can speedread by the cesspool items. And still I come back, not for TFA's, but for the peeps.
Absolutely, it was definite pressure. But DT does know better than make a direct stateme...I mean he's smart enough not to say out lou...I mean he won't commit to text things that...
Oh, nevermind. He has demonstrated publicly that he *will* do that kind of thing. But in this case, DT didn't come right out and *order* it, so he has the plausible deniability that he needs. I guess he's watched enough mafia movies to know that one must use euphemisms when "rubbing someone out".
Thanks. I thought the OP was a little puffed up there, as I too had TSCW like millions of others. After 5 years I was released from most obligations. Which is SOP.
As an expert on commenting about politics, I generally agree with much of your assessment.
A cupla points...
"a good many seem to think it probably isn't even constitutional to bring such a charge against a sitting President"
I believe Nixon was brought down for, amongst other stuff, obstruction of justice. Clinton got impeached for lying, which is an obstruction. Anyways, by definition, you don't impeach a non-sitting prez.
"Some Dems would in fact argue the very best thing for them going into the 2018 mid-terms is to keep Trump in the White House, where he seems to have made a high art of shooting himself and his party in the foot."
Absolutely. It might be risky, as politics 101 sez "get yourself a good war going", but the Brits decided to call off the assassination project against AH, for exactly that type of reasoning.
I'm not sure yet where Trump would pick a war. Pundits might say that it's either Germany or France. But Trump is an outside-the-box thinker. It will probably be neither of those places. I wouldn't expect it to be Russia, NK or Turkey as he respects those leaders, but you never know.
Most of the "making up stuff" is people reading between the lines, interpreting via their own biases, mis-interpreting because they're told to or are unable to understand, and, not least, the percentage of any population that think that controls and protocols are only necessary when the other side is in power.
Slashdot Mirror
Interesting. ATM the only responses to you are somewhat invalid arguments from AC's.
The one link that I saw stated the conclusion in the address: "the-largest-fines-dished-out-by-the-eu-commission-facebook-google.html"
" Or, use a Minority Report style..."
"You think they came up with that in Minority Report? "
Not necessarily. He used it as an example. But...
Let's do some assuming... /. come to?
1. Yes, he did. Holy shit what the hell has
2. No he didn't. He used as an example. Endit.
3. On the 3rd hand, he indeed did learn about it from the movie. Well and good, many of us tend to learn it sometime, and if we're not engineers then we're going to get it from other sources. I found out about the concept from a Heinlein story.
Note: I did not jump to the conclusion that Heinlein invented the concept. But perhaps that's just me.
Yeah, +1 informative. That slipped by me, too.
We didn't have "Hollaback" tones, we had ringtones.
If you'd had any talk with young'uns back then, you'd of heard 'em aplenty.
Now get off of your own lawn.
Er, whoosh? No?
I have a dog and a cat. Does that make me bi?
Beep beep.
I agree. It seems that there should be some kind of keepalive event. Touching the wheel should be adequate to reset the trigger every X minutes, where X is set to something like 5 X 15. Car should be able to turn on warning lights and honk its horns, and maybe slow down after another threshold is passed.
Events that could trigger the keepalive include sleep, heart attack, asphyxiation, sex.
"The pizza box is 50 km wide, but only 1.5 km tall."
Hi, just stopped in to say thanks for the info. I knew that differing orbit altitudes are not as "close" as common sense might guess, but didn't know the scale. Oh, and kudos for the mental sight picture of a giant pizza.
--
I'm inexplicably reminded of Douglas Adams...how did he put it?
How do we eat?
What should we eat?
Where shall we have lunch?
--
But I digress.
Here's some facts we can all argue about. It's more fun that way.
"
The 9th Circuit’s reversal rate is higher than average, but it’s not the absolute highest among the circuit courts. That distinction goes to the 6th Circuit, which serves Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee, with an 87 percent average between 2010-15. The 9th Circuit is in third place.
6th Circuit - 87 percent;
11th Circuit - 85 percent;
9th Circuit - 79 percent;
3rd Circuit - 78 percent;
2nd Circuit and Federal Circuit - 68 percent;
8th Circuit - 67 percent;
5th Circuit - 66 percent;
7th Circuit - 48 percent;
DC Circuit - 45 percent;
1st Circuit and 4th Circuit - 43 percent;
10th Circuit - 42 percent.
"
"I find it very sad that repeating faulty logic has become so common, and worse, people think they are "smart" by doing it."
Yes. When a political strategy works astoundingly well, the opposition will attempt to co-opt it.
"In comparison this is nothing. We should just thank them for helping us improve our weak computer security and leave it at that." "Well what would you have us do about it? "
1. Thank you rossiya for meddling in our election. I remember all those wonderful nights last summer reading the obvious russian trolls on this site and many others. I found it very annoying but you seem to have found kindred souls.
2, We are suitably chastened. We should drop all investigations, covert and overt, as the proper reaction to this.
You know, if HC had won Trumpists would be all over this and more. The bile coming from the brietbarts of the world would make what the dems are doing now look minor. Let's remember that the whole "fake news" meme came from altright (altrusskiy?) sites creating story after story about "coming to take your guns" and "fema camps" and "king obama" stuff.
Humanity is so hypocritical.
Just dropping in here to mention "Yellow Journalism". Like you, I have several news sources. I'm not too happy with MSM (and I include Fox in that definition whether they like it or not).
I'll say one thing for MSM: when something big and realtime is happening, most will go to MSM to follow it. They have the resources and coverage that smaller entities do not. And, at least during whatever emergency is going on, they avoid pontificating, as there's no need to preach to the choir. Of course, biases can still come up, but it's subdued. After the 60th repeat of the 30 second clip that every channel is showing, and no new news, then they plug in the opinionators and they start flapping their gums.
And, as we know, it's not just how it's presented, it's what's presented. As many have pointed out, we must go to several news sources to find the stories that one source will bury, one source will trumpet (pun not intended), and if one gets lucky, a source that discusses the issue without emotion.
Regarding content, when I read an actual news article from Fox, I find it as reasonably factual as other sources. They will report facts that directly contradict their pundits. I've been impressed sometimes. But, the ALL CAPS folks don't seem to care...it appears that what is important to them are the talking heads telling them what to *really* altThink(tm) about the actual facts reported by their own news teams.
And lest I get dizzy on this high-horse that I'm riding, Fox is just an example. Another examples include Slashbait and Clickdot, and TFA. We all read TFA, right? altRight?
Just for grins, I thought I'd spin up some facts to argue about. It's more fun that way. Here's some c&p from the sites and times indicated.
Fox headline 1:05 PM 6/9/2017
SESSIONS, COMEY CLASH: Attorney General fires back after ex-FBI boss hints at hidden Russia conflict
Comey fallout: Similarities in Times article, testimony could bolster Trump claims
JUDGE JEANINE: Comey is a 'predator' who sought 'revenge' on Trump
'Comey is a leaker!' Trump breaks his silence on ex-FBI boss' testimony
SEAN HANNITY: Comey reveals himself to be a Deep State political hack
MEDIA BUZZ: Comey questions Trump's conduct, offers few new details
Bossie: Comey's 'political' leaks 'possibly illegal, definitely unethical'
Ex-Justice Dept. official on Comey Leak: 'Standard operating procedure'
Trump's lawyer to file complaint over leaks
CNN Headline 1:05 PM 6/9/2017
President denies Comey's claims before Senate, but refuses to say whether there are tapes of talks
Trump on Comey: 'He's a leaker'
So is Donald Trump secretly recording conversations or not?
Senator: I'd expect Mueller to depose Trump
10 things we learned at Comey's hearing
Opinion: President Trump, stop blocking me on Twitter
Yeah, that was a interesting statement to parse. Presenting logical arguments doesn't work with some people because they can't do it themselves. Or, more sadly, don't want to.
Yeah. Well. True.
And truly, once I got over being pissed about clickbait, I got involved in some good conversations. And yes, there was the typical amount of poo-flinging, but I can speedread by the cesspool items. And still I come back, not for TFA's, but for the peeps.
Props to the Peeps.
Absolutely, it was definite pressure. But DT does know better than make a direct stateme...I mean he's smart enough not to say out lou...I mean he won't commit to text things that...
Oh, nevermind. He has demonstrated publicly that he *will* do that kind of thing. But in this case, DT didn't come right out and *order* it, so he has the plausible deniability that he needs. I guess he's watched enough mafia movies to know that one must use euphemisms when "rubbing someone out".
"1. He asked everyone to leave the room. If this was incidental, or accidental, why have everyone leave?"
This might have something to do with that "thing they had" which Trump mentioned.
Maybe it's like what the Uber driver said, "you chauffeur me, and I'll chauffeur you".
Thanks. I thought the OP was a little puffed up there, as I too had TSCW like millions of others. After 5 years I was released from most obligations. Which is SOP.
That is incorrect.
True, true. The moral cyclops in the land of the blind.
As an expert on commenting about politics, I generally agree with much of your assessment.
A cupla points...
"a good many seem to think it probably isn't even constitutional to bring such a charge against a sitting President"
I believe Nixon was brought down for, amongst other stuff, obstruction of justice. Clinton got impeached for lying, which is an obstruction. Anyways, by definition, you don't impeach a non-sitting prez.
"Some Dems would in fact argue the very best thing for them going into the 2018 mid-terms is to keep Trump in the White House, where he seems to have made a high art of shooting himself and his party in the foot."
Absolutely. It might be risky, as politics 101 sez "get yourself a good war going", but the Brits decided to call off the assassination project against AH, for exactly that type of reasoning.
I'm not sure yet where Trump would pick a war. Pundits might say that it's either Germany or France. But Trump is an outside-the-box thinker. It will probably be neither of those places. I wouldn't expect it to be Russia, NK or Turkey as he respects those leaders, but you never know.
Most of the "making up stuff" is people reading between the lines, interpreting via their own biases, mis-interpreting because they're told to or are unable to understand, and, not least, the percentage of any population that think that controls and protocols are only necessary when the other side is in power.
When your boss's boss tells you to make something "go away", you either do it, or you will be fired.