I loved vgmusic.com so much I burned myself a custom CD of Castlevania, Super Mario Brothers, Zelda, and (my favorite NES game) Shingen the Ruler! (Yeah, I know Shingen was crap. But it's the only NES game I still own because I love it so much.) The CD makes great music to work by (as a programmer, at least).
My favorite system is still the good old 2600, but for great game music, make mine NES!
The files from Mac Outlook Express don't appear to be.MBX files. I've tried.mbx converters before. There is no extension on the files in the Mac version, and no documentation on the format that I've found.
I agree. When I installed RedHat 7.1 with Gnome, I finally decided to someday give up my Macintosh. Now I just have to find a way to get my mail out of Outlook Express.
And actually, to be honest, I'll go on programming in Perl (which is what I spend most of my time doing) and will probably never touch.NET or Gnome programming.
If you're looking for a virtual machine, I hear you'll really like Perl 6!
Maybe you're right. But I often think about what would happen if there were a concerted effort to render Microsoft irrelevant -- by producing 100% compatible free-software clones of everything they do. Yeah, I wouldn't want to use it (I was a Mac user before I came to Linux. Still am, a little, since my email is all trapped in, you guessed it, Outlook Express for Mac.), but plenty of people would look at "Hmmm... MS's products, or something identical to MS's products for free," and make a decision that didn't include MS.
RMS set out to duplicate UNIX, even though it wasn't his favorite system. He knew technical improvements to the platform would happen along the way, and it wouldn't be exactly the same when he finished. Sure enough, it's not. And we're starting to see the final effects, as one commercial UNIX after another starts selling Linux (IBM, and now Sun!).
One thing to remember is that Microsoft is the enemy because they are a proprietary company. If (impossible though it may be) Microsoft jumped up tomorrow and released all their code under the GPL and started making their money like RedHat, they wouldn't be the enemy any more. Some of us might even like (parts) of their system and bring it into Linux and/or vice versa.
Actually, that would be comparable to what has happened with Ghostscript. Aladdin has an almost open-source license for Ghostscript, but there is also a GPL'ed version from GNU. GNU Ghostscript trailed Aladdin's for a long time, although I think it has somewhat caught up now.
I guarantee you that if someone tries any funny business, Gnome will fork. RMS will yell. I'll yell with him. But we won't yell long, because we'll just move our efforts from www.gnome.org to www.gnu.org/software/gnome/gnome.html . Remember, the GPL is an irrevocable license. Even if the copyright holder later comes out with a proprietary version, you have a perpetual right to freely modify and redistribute the GPL'ed versions. And I doubt the copyright holder can keep up with several thousand testers, debuggers, and coders who aren't interested in contributing to their proprietary product but are interested in contributing to something that is free.
Well, you can read the docs (somewhere on MS's site; I'm not going to search for it), or you can go check out the mono project, or you can go check out dotGNU, which is somewhat larger in scope than mono but also implementing a.NET runtime, or you can go read O'Reilly's books on the subject, some of which are already in their second editions.
What I would love to see is everyone who is working on anything remotely redundant to drop what they are doing, put their collective heads together and come up with a real competitor for Microsoft in something *other* than the server market.
You know, RedHat 7.1 converted me away from Mac OS. And that was before Sun's Gnome usability study. I'm looking forward to reaping the benefits of the work that's happened since then.
If they're winning Mac users, how long do you think it'll be before the Microsoft exodus begins? (Hint, consider software license fee structures in your answer.:) )
I'm optimistic. It's coming.
I know the redundancy pains a lot of people, but it has given us competition that enables us to pick the best solutions. Sometimes there's more than one best and we hit a stable point with multiple alternatives instead of a monopoly. And that's (mostly) a good thing.
We saw those comments from Miguel a long time ago. He's not raving about Microsoft. He just likes.NET. So do a lot of us, and I'm a free software raving lunatic. Some of us even like Java.:) Representing those comments as "raving about Microsoft" is a deliberate misrepresentation.
If you don't want Gnome to be.NET, then fine. Stay with what you've got, and if it ever moves toward.NET, fork. No one will blame you, but you may find that Gnome/.NET outperforms what you've got.
Did anybody else besides me notice the eerie similarities between the premier of the Lone Gunman and the attacks on America?
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I didn't completely understand the feature before. Classic Mac OS had the feature that applications were relocatable, and that's what I meant. The Microsoft Office 98 install consists of just copying the directory from CD to your hard drive.
Resource forks are another thing.
Note that Linux supports a feature that is non-standard to UNIX that makes it possible to make relocatable application directories like this: a process can determine the full path to the file that contains the executable image it is running. In general, this isn't possible under all UNIXes, and thus not completely portable. I'm very curious as to how these bundles work on non-Linux systems.
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Funny you should call them MacOS X style app wrappers because they are based on a much older system from Acorn RiscOS:-) Hence ROX - Risc Os on X.
Does Acorn predate classic MacOS? Because the Mac has worked this way for as long as I can remember. Long before Mac OS X.
Folks, NetBSD advocate that I am, I must point out that Apple used FreeBSD. Or am I wrong about that? I always heard it was FreeBSD.
Actually it was a FreeBSD userland built on top of a Mach kernel. Somewhat similar to what GNU is attempting to do with Hurd. (In fact, there's been work to make the Mach kernels underlying both systems interchangeable. Hurd may run on PowerPC hardware sooner than you think.)
All day long I thought that was a great idea, but now that I've learned Kathleen has never posted before, and probably won't again, I don't think she really cares how much it gets modded up to.
Heh, heh. Karma whore that I am (and having a job to do, besides), I was rather minimalist in my story. I thought Taco's comment was pretty good, too. (Made me wonder if he was making fun of my writing style.)
Nobody really talked much about this. Somehow I'm always able to pick the stories that the editors will love but that will put the readers to sleep.
I hate Futurama. I guess I'm the only one. But I can't believe people have a letter writing campaign for this, but nobody did anything about The Lone Gunmen. That was the funniest show I've seen in a long time. Sure the pilot wasn't that good (did anyone besides me notice how eerily similar the plot of the pilot was to the September 11 attacks? or am I the only one who actually watched it?), but it got better.
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I loved vgmusic.com so much I burned myself a custom CD of Castlevania, Super Mario Brothers, Zelda, and (my favorite NES game) Shingen the Ruler! (Yeah, I know Shingen was crap. But it's the only NES game I still own because I love it so much.) The CD makes great music to work by (as a programmer, at least).
My favorite system is still the good old 2600, but for great game music, make mine NES!
For the supreme protest against ICANN, try an alternative root server, such as OpenNIC.
Yes, but mozilla for Mac can't do that, or at least, it couldn't last time I checked.
I know. Meant to post that link originally, but didn't have time to search.
Did they include issue #3 of Transformers?
The files from Mac Outlook Express don't appear to be .MBX files. I've tried .mbx converters before. There is no extension on the files in the Mac version, and no documentation on the format that I've found.
I agree. When I installed RedHat 7.1 with Gnome, I finally decided to someday give up my Macintosh. Now I just have to find a way to get my mail out of Outlook Express.
Except he may pull down the entire GNOME project.
How? Didn't you read the license?
Pet peave of mine. It's Perl, not PERL.
And actually, to be honest, I'll go on programming in Perl (which is what I spend most of my time doing) and will probably never touch .NET or Gnome programming.
If you're looking for a virtual machine, I hear you'll really like Perl 6!
Maybe you're right. But I often think about what would happen if there were a concerted effort to render Microsoft irrelevant -- by producing 100% compatible free-software clones of everything they do. Yeah, I wouldn't want to use it (I was a Mac user before I came to Linux. Still am, a little, since my email is all trapped in, you guessed it, Outlook Express for Mac.), but plenty of people would look at "Hmmm... MS's products, or something identical to MS's products for free," and make a decision that didn't include MS.
RMS set out to duplicate UNIX, even though it wasn't his favorite system. He knew technical improvements to the platform would happen along the way, and it wouldn't be exactly the same when he finished. Sure enough, it's not. And we're starting to see the final effects, as one commercial UNIX after another starts selling Linux (IBM, and now Sun!).
One thing to remember is that Microsoft is the enemy because they are a proprietary company. If (impossible though it may be) Microsoft jumped up tomorrow and released all their code under the GPL and started making their money like RedHat, they wouldn't be the enemy any more. Some of us might even like (parts) of their system and bring it into Linux and/or vice versa.
Actually, that would be comparable to what has happened with Ghostscript. Aladdin has an almost open-source license for Ghostscript, but there is also a GPL'ed version from GNU. GNU Ghostscript trailed Aladdin's for a long time, although I think it has somewhat caught up now.
I guarantee you that if someone tries any funny business, Gnome will fork. RMS will yell. I'll yell with him. But we won't yell long, because we'll just move our efforts from www.gnome.org to www.gnu.org/software/gnome/gnome.html . Remember, the GPL is an irrevocable license. Even if the copyright holder later comes out with a proprietary version, you have a perpetual right to freely modify and redistribute the GPL'ed versions. And I doubt the copyright holder can keep up with several thousand testers, debuggers, and coders who aren't interested in contributing to their proprietary product but are interested in contributing to something that is free.
Well, you can read the docs (somewhere on MS's site; I'm not going to search for it), or you can go check out the mono project, or you can go check out dotGNU, which is somewhat larger in scope than mono but also implementing a .NET runtime, or you can go read O'Reilly's books on the subject, some of which are already in their second editions.
What I would love to see is everyone who is working on anything remotely redundant to drop what they are doing, put their collective heads together and come up with a real competitor for Microsoft in something *other* than the server market.
You know, RedHat 7.1 converted me away from Mac OS. And that was before Sun's Gnome usability study. I'm looking forward to reaping the benefits of the work that's happened since then.
If they're winning Mac users, how long do you think it'll be before the Microsoft exodus begins? (Hint, consider software license fee structures in your answer. :) )
I'm optimistic. It's coming.
I know the redundancy pains a lot of people, but it has given us competition that enables us to pick the best solutions. Sometimes there's more than one best and we hit a stable point with multiple alternatives instead of a monopoly. And that's (mostly) a good thing.
We saw those comments from Miguel a long time ago. He's not raving about Microsoft. He just likes .NET. So do a lot of us, and I'm a free software raving lunatic. Some of us even like Java. :) Representing those comments as "raving about Microsoft" is a deliberate misrepresentation.
If you don't want Gnome to be .NET, then fine. Stay with what you've got, and if it ever moves toward .NET, fork. No one will blame you, but you may find that Gnome/.NET outperforms what you've got.
Yes, but you need to be more explicit. "The source code, and the freedom to meet our needs with that code."
Did anybody else besides me notice the eerie similarities between the premier of the Lone Gunman and the attacks on America?
I didn't completely understand the feature before. Classic Mac OS had the feature that applications were relocatable, and that's what I meant. The Microsoft Office 98 install consists of just copying the directory from CD to your hard drive.
Resource forks are another thing.
Note that Linux supports a feature that is non-standard to UNIX that makes it possible to make relocatable application directories like this: a process can determine the full path to the file that contains the executable image it is running. In general, this isn't possible under all UNIXes, and thus not completely portable. I'm very curious as to how these bundles work on non-Linux systems.
Funny you should call them MacOS X style app wrappers because they are based on a much older system from Acorn RiscOS :-) Hence ROX - Risc Os on X.
Does Acorn predate classic MacOS? Because the Mac has worked this way for as long as I can remember. Long before Mac OS X.
Folks, NetBSD advocate that I am, I must point out that Apple used FreeBSD. Or am I wrong about that? I always heard it was FreeBSD.
Actually it was a FreeBSD userland built on top of a Mach kernel. Somewhat similar to what GNU is attempting to do with Hurd. (In fact, there's been work to make the Mach kernels underlying both systems interchangeable. Hurd may run on PowerPC hardware sooner than you think.)
All day long I thought that was a great idea, but now that I've learned Kathleen has never posted before, and probably won't again, I don't think she really cares how much it gets modded up to.
It'd be neat, though.
Uh, you know the answer is Perl, right? ;)
Heh, heh. Karma whore that I am (and having a job to do, besides), I was rather minimalist in my story. I thought Taco's comment was pretty good, too. (Made me wonder if he was making fun of my writing style.)
Nobody really talked much about this. Somehow I'm always able to pick the stories that the editors will love but that will put the readers to sleep.
Will you nutsos get over yourselves on the drug thing? I'm tired of people acting like the supreme goal in life is to make drugs legal.
You must've really smoked a lot of that "harmless" weed if you're so stoned you think the 4th amendment gives you the right to break the law.
I hate Futurama. I guess I'm the only one. But I can't believe people have a letter writing campaign for this, but nobody did anything about The Lone Gunmen. That was the funniest show I've seen in a long time. Sure the pilot wasn't that good (did anyone besides me notice how eerily similar the plot of the pilot was to the September 11 attacks? or am I the only one who actually watched it?), but it got better.
Sigh.
Change "at all" to "exactly."