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Video Game Music Mixes

Matt Pollard writes: "A group of video game music fanatics and musicians have opened up a new website at VGMix.com. If you're like us, sometimes you can't get the snazzy tunes of today's video games out of your head. Also, if you're up for a bit of nostalgia, this is certainly the place to go to relive the days of youth when you hummed the Super Mario Bros. theme under your breath during class grade school."

207 comments

  1. VG Mixes by Renraku · · Score: 2

    Get some Dance Dance Revolution music. There are tunes on there that I will not get out of my head for another century or so.

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    1. Re:VG Mixes by irony+nazi · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I still hum Castlevania 1, 2, & 3 music every now and then.

      I never cared for the SMB music after I watched the SMB television show and they ruined the music for me.

      Megaman had some good music IIRC. When I was a kid, I would hook the VCR up to my games so that I could record the endings of them. I still have 3 VHS tapes somewhere with videogame endings on them. I was devestated when I had to tape over the cartoon Ducktales in order to get Megaman 2. I would also make cassettes of the video game music. I listened to rap and video game music.

      Those were the days.

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    2. Re:VG Mixes by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      Megaman had a lot of good music. That's why you'll find more Megaman remixes out there than anything save MAYBE Final Fantasy.

      Jeez...anyone remember looking for game music on napster and finding dozens of people with nothing but final fantasy music? God...how boring and repetetive.

      IMO, nothing tops Darius Gaiden and G-Darius. I recorded a clip from G-darius as my cell phone ring tone, which someone described as "scary." Wonder if anyone will ever redo some of that?

    3. Re:VG Mixes by TephX · · Score: 1

      Umm... what on earth are you talking about? Mega Man X had some good songs (although awesome some boring ones). The original Mega Man series' music wasn't at all awe-inspiring in my opinion. However, I'll leave the Mega Man music criticism to those better acquainted with the series than I.

      But your comments about Final Fantasy's music are just flat out false. While which is better among Final Fantasy or Mega Man as far as music is a matter at least somewhat open to debate, the Final Fantasy series' music involves more variety than just about any other game series I have had the pleasure to experience. Here is a brief listing of some of the tracks which, should you wish to have that variety amply demonstrated to you, you should have no difficulty finding on Gnutella:

      • Celes, Final Fantasy VI OST
      • One-Winged Angel, Final Fantasy VII OST
      • Man with the Machine Gun, Final Fantasy VIII OST
      • Sleepless City Treno, Final Fantasy IX OST
      • Fighting, Final Fantasy VII OST

      I think music criticism in words is more or less a lost cause, so I really do encourage you to download these songs and try them out. But, to give you some idea, these range from piano to techno to classical (think Orff) to traditional video game music. Really, few artists in any genre deal with this much variety and pull it off this convincingly. And then of course there are the classic trademarks - the Chocobo song, the Prelude, and my single favorite song of all time, the Final Fantasy theme. Nobuo Uematsu's work is truly first-class, and it pains me to see him unthinkingly trashed like this. Give it a try - you might like it.

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    4. Re:VG Mixes by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      I stopped listening after 7. Basically because I realized how dumb the games were.

      Regarding originality, all the games had one or two really good pieces...out of what....40?

      Megaman X, IMO has better sound quality (of COURSE), but the music itself isn't as interesting. Check out some of the megaman 1 and 2 remixes. (3 is inexplicably less popular...IMO it's better than 1, almost as good as 2).

      If you like music that mostly sound like every other final fantasy game, and resembles 90+ percent of other RPGs (but admittedly is better than most other RPGs)

      If you want more than a handful of distinctive tracks per game, there are better places to find it, and Megaman (including X) is one of the best places to find it.

      But IMO, the last 2 Darius games beat all comers. Bwaahaha.

    5. Re:VG Mixes by geekrebel · · Score: 0

      Okay, this is scary. I've probably seen more Japanese on that site than on a sushi menu. Come on, get some music from America!!!

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  2. Right On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One more step in preserving video games of old. FWIW, they have very good music. My percussion ensemble played super mario bros. and mortal kombat last year!

  3. Overclocked Remix by Chocobo219 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Overclocked Remix deserves some credit. It's a moderated remix website that's been running for a few years.

    http://remix.overclocked.org

    1. Re:Overclocked Remix by Prozax · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check the FAQ, or the links page. Proper homage is given to Overclocked Remix and it's where most of us met up to create vgmix.

    2. Re:Overclocked Remix by silhouette · · Score: 1

      Yes, very excellent site. My all-time favorite is the Lemmings theme remix called "Dabomb." There's very little these days that can consistently bring a smile to my face, but that remix somehow always does.

      If you have played Lemmings, I don't think you can NOT enjoy that track.

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    3. Re:Overclocked Remix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Matt Pollard (the person who submitted this article) recently had some sort of disagreement with DJ Pretzel (the webmaster of OverClocked ReMix). He requested that all his music be removed from the site, and that's probably why this new site was started (a few other people were involved in this too). I'm guessing that's also why he didn't mention OC Remix.

      BTW, OC Remix has perpetual bandwidth problems. You'll probably have better luck downloading these mixes from a P2P filesharing tool (the FAQ encourages people to share on OpenNap, Gnutella, Kazaa, etc.), or from OCR's IRC channel (on EnterTheGame).

    4. Re:Overclocked Remix by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      you are right, overclocked has some top tunes, along with some played with live instruments as well, which is supercool.

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    5. Re:Overclocked Remix by c_g_hills · · Score: 1

      BTW, OC Remix has perpetual bandwidth problems.

      Rubbish. Ever since I started using a few months ago it has been a-ok.

    6. Re:Overclocked Remix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OC Remix has perpetual bandwidth problems

      Yeah, well now vgmix and everyone else does too, so there! /. for everyone!

    7. Re:Overclocked Remix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have always love Overclocked for YEARS... who cares if you have to download at 2 am or so.. its just part of the dedication i give that site... wouldn't you do the same for slashdot??

      FF_Freak

    8. Re:Overclocked Remix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The downloads are usually fast for me, but sometimes they slow to a crawl after around 80% (i.e. they slow from 600 KB/s to under 1 KB/s, and take several more hours to complete). This is a known problem, mentioned in FAQ item 2.1 (if it hasn't happened to you, you're lucky).

      In the last few months it hasn't been too bad (except for the random slowdowns), but for a long time before that, downloads were only enabled after 2 AM. From the FAQ: "I won't go into numbers, but the bandwidth to deliver these files is very expensive, and the ad banners don't cover it all".

  4. Big launch by Mattygfunk · · Score: 2, Troll
    Sorry but this isn't new. Videogame Music has had almost 5 million hits (according to their counter) since 1996.

    I wish I could get Slashdot to launch all of my web sites.

    1. Re:Big launch by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      For mostly shitty midis. whoo boy.

      Remix.overclocked.org has been doing this for a while. Almost all of it is listenable, some of it is phenomenally good. (Check out anything by DJpretzel, Jaxx, or McVaffe)

    2. Re:Big launch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MIDI? Midi my ass!

    3. Re:Big launch by shymog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a huge difference between what VGmusic.com does and what VGmmix.com does.

      VGmusic.com present MIDI data of song mixes, most of them trying to mimic the originals as much as possible.

      VGmix.com, on the other hand, presents MP3 remixes of songs. Decent ones, too.

      I dunno, I'd rather hear an MP3 of someone playing actual music than listen to some dinky MIDI data running through a cheap wavetable chip or soundfont any day.

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    4. Re:Big launch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Heh! 99% of what you hear in the charts originates as 'dinky MIDI data'. Regardless of what you think, MIDI is about as pro as you can get. What you should really be complaining about is the crappy quality of MIDI rip-offs... and possibly crappy wavetable chips, which - let's face it - aren't going to let you replicate what some synth programmer does on his hyperpolytimbral Roland Wavestation O1/W EX Trinity Pro 2...

      Oh, I'm actually agreeing thinking about it - MP3 any day, what's the point of copying something badly when you can have the real thing.

    5. Re:Big launch by Junta · · Score: 3, Interesting

      MIDI can sound really good and offer very nice compression, *if* you have a good soundfont.

      http://www.personalcopy.com/ has some great ones, my personal favorite being a 56 MB soundfont which together with either timidity or an appropriate soundcard sounds fantastic. Still not possible to accurately reproduce exactly what the creator heard when he put the piece together (unless you are sure you use the same soundfont), but it still sounds great.

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    6. Re:Big launch by jdavidb · · Score: 2

      I loved vgmusic.com so much I burned myself a custom CD of Castlevania, Super Mario Brothers, Zelda, and (my favorite NES game) Shingen the Ruler! (Yeah, I know Shingen was crap. But it's the only NES game I still own because I love it so much.) The CD makes great music to work by (as a programmer, at least).

      My favorite system is still the good old 2600, but for great game music, make mine NES!

    7. Re:Big launch by killmenow · · Score: 1
      I dunno, I'd rather hear an MP3 of someone playing actual music than listen to some dinky MIDI data running through a cheap wavetable chip or soundfont any day.
      I dunno, when I pipe MIDI into my external synth, it sounds pretty damn good. It sometimes requires a little mapping because just like every other standard: even if it SAYS "General MIDI", it's not always the same.

      Of course, if you don't have a decent MIDI capable external synth, MP3s don't suck too much.
    8. Re:Big launch by Whelkman · · Score: 2

      A good alternative are GUS patches, along with timidity (which I believe also reads SoundFonts now).

      Still not possible to accurately reproduce exactly what the creator heard when he put the piece together (unless you are sure you use the same soundfont), but it still sounds great.

      Not only do you need the same soundfont, you need the same hardware (speakers, headphones) and maybe even software (not all sequencers are equal).

  5. Re:First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean Kyle Herbert??? Check out his website!!!

    http://www.firstnetimpressions.com/

  6. Other video game music sites by Novus · · Score: 4, Informative
    Other good video game music sites are:
    1. Re:Other video game music sites by belg4mit · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Other video game music sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also to be added to the list:
      http://www.gamingforce.com/audio/
      http://w ww.rpgamer.com/ has a midi/digital music for nearly every game; the more popular ones have very complete and excellent
      http://www.zophar.net/ is an incredible resource for SPC music (extracted from SNES ROMs).

      I heard someone whistling Frog's Theme from Chrono Trigger a few weeks ago. More people than one might think pay attention to video game music and like it--myself included.

    3. Re:Other video game music sites by d0s · · Score: 1

      don't forget the minibosses.

    4. Re:Other video game music sites by Misagon · · Score: 1

      I found this site the other day: www.traxinspace.com. It has modules only. Some are remixes of old C64 tunes.

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  7. Covers/Remixes by kafka93 · · Score: 1

    Most of the songs on the site appear to be covers or remixes. I guess it's another example of how pervasive gaming technology has become - and it's not surprising that music whose intention was often to attract passers-by to machines, and to get the machine itself firmly hooked inside the head, should find itself appropriated by more general modern pop music.

    My favourite description, though, has to be for Little Nemo (arranged by Gux): "A string quartet rendition of the first level tune from Capcom's sleeper hit, Little Nemo. The original had much higher tempo (and it ran in 4/4). This version is slower with a waltz-ish feel to it." It's great to see that musicians can find inspiration in many places, and do interesting things with what they find. Let's just hope the lawyers don't get to them...

  8. different formats.... by Veramocor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will any of these remixes be availible for my PC speaker?

    Beep-boop-beep-be-beep

    Veramocor

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    1. Re:different formats.... by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I love old computer speaker music. Especially the Ultima series. Nowadays it takes no talent to appreciate the medium of the computer with fancy ass 24 bit surround sound.

    2. Re:different formats.... by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      Fecking right. I still have most of the old Sierra games going through my head; especially Leisure Suite Larry 3. That game had AMAZING pc speaker music.

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  9. huh? by linzeal · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Fear not, our sexy developers are currently looking into solutions and alternate options, in case you are one of those people with large arrangements you're dying to submit. Expect another posting in the near future with more info/solutions. "

    First off, I don't believe in sexy developers and second if these music production and archive shops do have sexy developers I'm in the wrong admin role.

    1. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey I'm sexy! No girls can resist my hiking boots, and beard.

  10. finally some news for nerds! by kninja · · Score: 1

    This is great stuff that matters. I know there are other sites like this, but the more the merrier, and this one seems like it has some active movers and shakers behind it. Perhaps they'll surpass the others if they already haven't.

  11. Awesome Tetris cover song by Chicks_Hate_Me · · Score: 3, Insightful

    May seem a bit offtopic but Ozma has a great cover song of 'Korobeiniki.' Ozma's just a damn good band and it's my job of an over-obsessed fan to advertise 'em as much as I can...

    Ozma Mp3's

    Ozma's Website

    1. Re:Awesome Tetris cover song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is truly entertaining to watch them play this song live. I saw them in Charlotte NC and they close w/ it often.

    2. Re:Awesome Tetris cover song by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

      Dance remixes of this song have been around since 1993 or so. Buddies of mine used to use it in their mixes along with other gimmicky dance tracks like British white-label Pac-Man covers, Speed Racer, that Sesame Street theme remix, and Bombscare by 2 bad Mice back in high school. ^_^

      < tofuhead >

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    3. Re:Awesome Tetris cover song by Chicks_Hate_Me · · Score: 1

      Couldn't agree with you more. I saw them here in San Francisco, in some small bar, (usually the best shows IMHO) and they rocked. Although they played that song, they ended the show with In Search of 1988.

      My friend finally made me the bass tab for Kornobeiniki, and it's awesome. I can play the intro but that's about it :P

  12. Hehe ... by __aasfhc1949 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I like this post on the front page by an editor:

    8041 visitors in less than a week.
    Should we start getting a 10,000th visitor
    contest going, or do you think the initial rush
    will die down soon?
    I just had to comment on this, even though its
    not necessarily important (its impressive).


    Vgmix.com: say hello to the Slashdotting!
    1. Re:Hehe ... by EricKrout.com · · Score: 1

      Cute, but inaccurate.

      Accompanying that particular post by the editor is a timestamp showing "Posted by mellogear 02/24/2002 | 07:27 AM".

      The 24th was Sunday, so he posted that yesterday morning, many hours this story was added to Slashdot's front page.

      :-D

    2. Re:Hehe ... by Jake+K · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, but we were still around 9100 when the story broke on Slashdot. We've been mostly overwhelmed and slow, but our single server has - amazingly - weathered the entire thing so far, 5k hits (in 3 hours or so!) later. If you guys are looking for hosting for a similar-sized site, I can heartily recommend rackshack.net. Cheap, fast, and they have extremely responsive staff.

      And of course, because I said that, the entire data center will be struck by lightning and incinerated while I'm asleep.

      -j

    3. Re:Hehe ... by sunhou · · Score: 1

      Wonder what sounds their server will make when being slashdotted? At least it has plenty of sounds on hand to sample from (pac-man wilting sound, various explosions and game-over sounds...)

  13. What do you mean, YOUTH? by ebbomega · · Score: 5, Funny

    "this is certainly the place to go to relive the days of youth when you hummed the Super Mario Bros. theme under your breath during class grade school"

    So I was in my Calculus class about four months ago, hanging around, being relatively bored, so I started singing the "dada Da dada da, da..." and charged into the entire Super Mario Brothers song. My friends sitting next to me start chiming in and joining up. Now this would have been fine and all, If I hadn't then broken into the end bit with the flagpole and the fireworks... and then continued on to level 1-2 (Dada da dada da, da... Dooo! Dooo! Dooo! Dananananana.... Dananananana...). My friend sitting next to me collapsed over in laughter... I think I broke her.

    The end.

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  14. what we need.. by tireg · · Score: 0

    Where's the Pong music?!

    1. Re:what we need.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm doing a Pong arrangement, actually.

      - X-Sykodad (too lazy to create an account just for a post)

  15. Game music is very important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I have noticed that the best video games often use music very effectively. A well chosen score or theme song enhances the mood of the environment , and really adds to the enjoyment of the game. Thus, a horror game should use something appropriately "creepy", like funeral organ music. A hi-tech sci-fi game should be techno or similarly modern and stimulating.
    For instance, Tetris on the Game Boy is improved by having a nice Russian-sounding tune playing in the background. Combined with appropriate sound effects, it makes for a great experience. The music should fit the game like a glove. Another game whose music I enjoyed was Final Fantasy for the Game Boy. An adventure/romance theme, which was perfect for the storyline. Of course, not even Beethoven could salvage a game which has a lousy premise or is just not fun to play. But music is a critical component of any successful game, just as any popular movie will have a rousing theme song.

  16. nice TF3 remix by AndyChrist · · Score: 3, Informative

    They also have some remixes. Mostly it's ripped stuff, though.
    Also, if you're willing to wade through tons of "inspired by" shit, MP3.com's electronic section has lots of good remixes...many are also on other sites like remix.overclocked.org, though.

  17. I can't believe this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ha! 30 comments and yours is the highest rated. Slashdot has really turned into a large pile of festering SLOP!

  18. Re:not legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bah. If you'd spent the time reading the site that you had writing this post, you'd realize that all of the tunes on VG Mix are arrangements...not pirate copies of the original soundtracks. The only way that this would violate any copyright laws would be if they were selling the tracks without first acquiring the neccessary mechanical license(s).

  19. Overclocked Remix by chronos2266 · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is another site that has been around for a while that deals only with video game remixes as well. Overlocked Remix has listings of numerous MP3 format video game music remixes. The genres range from classical to techno to ambient to rock.

    Since you need to create a fairly high quality remix in order to get listed on the site, almost all of the music on that site is worth the listen.

  20. Why do they track their visitors ? by Jesse+Duke · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I use Junkbuster to rewrite the information sent by Nutscrape to websites. Obviously, my bogus browser ID strings breaks their PHP scripts : at the bottom of all their pages, there is this :

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    Couldn't insert new row into MySQL table
    Reason: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'You_dont_need_to_know_what_browser_I_use."","en" ""You_dont_need_to_know_what_si' at line 1

    Check if the name of the MySQL table in phphits.php is correct!
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    So my question is : what business does a mere "group of video game music fanatics and musicians" has logging people's browser infos into a SQL database ?

    1. Re:Why do they track their visitors ? by TeddyR · · Score: 3, Informative

      Like most websites, they want to know what users are visiting their sites. They may be using something like bbclone (http://bbclone.tuxfamily.org/) which uses php scripts to log web page accesses... example of a bbclone report is at http://bbclone.tuxfamily.org/varstuff/bbclone-0.15 .1.html

      One of the interesting side effects is that it can be a way to find out who is linking to your pages since it also shows the referrer info...

      Knowing which browser you use can help in making sure that their pages work in all availible browsers that their potential audiance uses.

      {before you say anything... yes... the pages should be optimised for ALL browsers... but then who said we lived in a utopian world...})

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    2. Re:Why do they track their visitors ? by AdamJ · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So my question is : what business does a mere "group of video game music fanatics and musicians" has logging people's browser infos into a SQL database ?

      The same business any web server that logs user agents types has.

    3. Re:Why do they track their visitors ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my question is, why are you so obsessively paranoid?

      or, to put it in terms you MIGHT understand better, LOOOOL THEY R GOIN 2 HAX U D00D

    4. Re:Why do they track their visitors ? by Jesse+Duke · · Score: 1
      "Like most websites, they want to know what users are visiting their sites"

      So do I : vi /var/log/apache/access.log

      That gives me an idea of how many people come to my site, and an idea of where people visit my site from (tld).

      /var/log/apache/access.log is cheap and easy (since it's there by default). But when you want more data, you need to make an extra effort to get it, and usually I'm pretty confident that people who make an effort to be nozy are (1) corporations (2) in the business of statistical data to sell. Neither match my conception of a group of people making electronica music from dinky video game tunes and distributing it on their website. Hence my question.

    5. Re:Why do they track their visitors ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You have an error in your SQL syntax near...

      what business does a mere "group of video game music fanatics and musicians" has logging people's browser infos into a SQL database ?

      The bigger concern is that it's probably an insecure database. It looks like your browser string is being passed as an SQL command, and this is most likely exploitable (you'd just need to put some SQL commands in your browser ID string). Anyone with a login for that site (i.e. for the forums) should change their password if/when this is fixed.

  21. Re:not legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yah right peepz just be using dis site to help demz find their music to get wit morpheus, tell me u never pirated any music mr anonymous

  22. Sierra Music by RinkSpringer · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you want to get Sierra Music, visit Quest Studios. They have music of about all Sierra games, some in MP3 and some in MIDI format.

  23. Not really the same thing by ndogg · · Score: 1

    That's not really the same thing. The above are actual mixes inspired by the games, not a rehashed midi.

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  24. The effects of slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what I find interesting:

    "Should we start getting a 10,000th visitor contest going, or do you think the initial rush will die down soon?
    I just had to comment on this, even though its not necessarily important (its impressive). "


    And now it has been /.'ed

  25. Even if they are mixes? by ndogg · · Score: 1

    These are mixes, not copies of the original artwork (i.e. variations or inspirations from the original piece.) Does that still make it illegal?

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    1. Re:Even if they are mixes? by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 1, Troll

      I might be wrong, but the impression I received was that it was variations from the original work. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it wasn't based on the video game music it would be original music and in no way connected to the video games. Even if the music is not 100% of a replica of the original work, it still goes against the license. It's like taking 50% of the source code from Windows (although why anyone would want to use it is beyond me) and mixing it with 50% of Solaris.

    2. Re:Even if they are mixes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you are wrong.

      It is NOT like taking partial source code.

      It's more like looking at Windows, and then programming your own OS that looks and acts similar to Windows and attaching an "Inspired by Windows" on it. In other words, perfectly legal.

      What you say would be analogous to "Take the original videogame composer's MIDI sequences and/or samples and/or other material and use it in an own arrangement."

      That is not the case. We entirely transcribe the original music by ear, i.e. sitting down, listening to the original, and and writing down/inputting note for note, changing them depending on the kind of arrangement.

      ARRANGEMENT. Not REMIX. Read the FAQ on VGMix.com.

      - X-Sykodad (too lazy to create an account for just one post)

    3. Re:Even if they are mixes? by 6R1MM · · Score: 1

      > It's like taking 50% of the source code from Windows (although why anyone would want to use it is beyond me) and mixing it with 50% of Solaris.

      No. I don't agree with this. What you're doing is taking a scientific example and applying it to an aesthetic situation.
      Source code (and programming in general) may well be considered an art form, but I don't think it's comparable to composing or remixing music (which is the focus of Overclocked Remixes). Taking your example, I could wrongly say that virtually every representation of art up to this point has been illegal because it has been inspired (or more explicitly - "copied") from something that came before it.

    4. Re:Even if they are mixes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The arrangements might still be considered as a derived work under copyright law, and you'd probably get in trouble if you tried to sell them.

      There was a project recently called Project Majestic Mix, which raised money, paid royalties to the copyright holders, and released a commercial CD. Maybe they were just being over-cautious, but I don't think so.

      I'd link to PMM, but they seem to have abandoned their web site and replaced it with a Flash applet. You can buy the CD from AnimeNation.

    5. Re:Even if they are mixes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is JAXX from the PMM staff. We paied royalties because we are to make money from this project. VGmix has no desire to make money from these arrangements. and the link to PMM (which is still accepting orders) is



      www.majesticmix.com

      -JAXX

  26. Remix64 community site by adadun · · Score: 2

    If you like C64 remixes, also check the Remix64 community site out: http://remix64.phatsites.de/. The charts section contains voting charts for the remixes at Remix.Kwed.Org and is a good place to start in order to find out which remixes are worth downloading.

  27. Re:not legal by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 1, Troll

    Thank you very much but I did read the site, and you are wrong. On the top right of each post is a "download" link to let you download the video game music in mp3 format and two thirds of the articles contain links within them to download these mp3s. I am not sure if this website is the actual server on which this music is held, but then it would still be nothing different than some video game music warez link site. Things like this on Slashdot give it a bad name. Open source is great, but posting things like this, when the music is not even free as in beer, gives fuel to arguments like when Microsoft says "open source is bad for licenses," even if arguments like that are flawed. It gives negative press and it is just plain illegal to download and listen to the music unless you own the video game, and I am sure most people own no more than a few percent of the total songs (and I really doubt that they would scroll through and say, "hey! I don't own that. I won't download it.")

  28. More remixes.. by Zarathustra.fi · · Score: 2, Informative

    For more great game choon remixes, although from the world of Commodore 64, check out these two commonly known great sites:




    http://Remix.Kwed.Org

    http://www.c64audio.com




    Also, quite recently I happened to hear probably the best C64 game remix ever. It's from the game "The Great Gianna Sisters", by a band Machinae Supremacy. Here's the direct link to the MP3 file at their site, and here's another for a mirror at MP3.com. Enjoy! (And may the Gaia forgive me for starting a /. flood on the band's page.. =))

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  29. hell has frozen over by gr3g · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can not believe it. On the front page of slashdot a microsoft advertisement. I think I saw satan asking for a sweater and pigs looking at the head winds. MY GOD! I wonder who's responsible. Maybe anti M$ comments will now be modded down.

    Oh and sorry for being off-topic.

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    "It has always been this way and it won't change, god bless the fucked up USA" The Briefs
  30. Is it me or do they all sound like 80's rave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care for most remixes, there really isn't anything that improves upon the original. Give me my buckner & cherry LP for real "music inspired by "

    1. Re:Is it me or do they all sound like 80's rave by tlotoxl · · Score: 1

      You probably only listened to a couple of remixes (if even that many), because there are certainly a lot of different genres represented by the arrangments on vgmix.com and overclocked remix.

      Just the same, I too feel that often the original cannot be improved upon - with the limitations of the original machine adding a unique character to the mix. That's why the arrangements are interesting, I think, because many of them eschew any attempt to improve upon the original and instead just meander off in another direction or bring the original melody in to a whole new genre. If you search those arrangements out, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

  31. GIRL SPREADING ASS!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  32. The Minibosses...check em out by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

    The Minibosses are a really cool band that's been doing video game covers for a couple years. They have an awesome CD. (Probably technically illegal, I dunno). Contra, Castlevania, Wizards and Warriors, and the GI Joe theme song, among others, all in sort of an instrumental punk-metal thing.

    Also, search for the Rabbit Joint and try and find their "Legend of Zelda" song. You will laugh your ass off. "Link...he come to town...come to save...the princess zelda!"
    It used to be on MP3.com, but it's gone now. Probably lawyers didn't like it.

    1. Re:The Minibosses...check em out by Amanset · · Score: 1

      Also, search for the Rabbit Joint and try and find their "Legend of Zelda" song. You will laugh your ass off. "Link...he come to town...come to save...the princess zelda!"
      It used to be on MP3.com, but it's gone now. Probably lawyers didn't like it.


      You can find it at Overclocked.

    2. Re:The Minibosses...check em out by Dante_H · · Score: 1

      Did System of a Down do a cover of this song? I wondered if the file I downloaded had some kind of incorrect info. Either way, it's fab.

  33. The NES is a great sound machine. by Mulletroll · · Score: 1

    ..If you have good games that have sound tests.

    My recent favorites are: Solstice, and Journey To Silius. If you like chip music, you should love these two. They both have fairly long and interesting tracks. Check out the arpeggio patterns in Solstice, it's brilliant, and IMO Solstice has the best music of any NES game.

    Of course I have my NES plugged into my stereo so I can hear all the great fuzz and other weirdness in hi-fi. Emulators tend to mess up the music.

    Does anybody know of any other NES games with great music?

    1. Re:The NES is a great sound machine. by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      Shatterhand, Contra, Castlevania (series), Megaman (well, everyone knows those three). I also kind of like the first TMNT game. Of course, there's Super Mario Bros 2 and 3. 3 is remarkable in that it actually sounded BETTER on the NES than on the SNES, particularly the end music.

    2. Re:The NES is a great sound machine. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's Astyanax, Ninja Gaiden I and II (III wasn't as good). Battle of Mount Olympus and The Guardian Legend had some good stuff from Broderbund. Don't forget Super C, the sequel to Contra, either. What else? Gyruss, Dragon Warrior (check out the arrangements on Morpheus under Dragon Quest). Ah, memories.

  34. VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LONG) by Jake+K · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi folks, I'm virt, the guy who came up with the idea and helped design and implement the site (and whose wallet will ultimately suffer for the slashdotting ;))

    I just wanted to say thanks in advance for the support and the interest, and to get a couple of things cleared up.

    First of all, we KNOW we're not the first. Believe me, we know. We're just the first site designed from the ground up for the purpose of multi-platform game arrangements. Most of us are people who are also (or have been) active contributors to remix.overclocked.org - OverClocked ReMix is the site that really started it all with game music arrangements, and it's incredible how a real living, breathing community can form around a single niche interest. However, OverClocked started out as a personal site that gradually featured other people's music until it became MOSTLY about other people's music. VGMix was made, back-end and all, specifically for harbouring a community. Few things are done by hand, because we want people to be able to put their stuff up without us babysitting, and let the moderation and reviewing dictate what's enjoyed without any one person trying to decide for the whole community. We're mostly musicians first, game players second, but the entire spectrum of musicians/gamers is represented here, and we all really love what we do. We DO, however, have a Panel of trusted arrangers who can pick what they consider to be exceptional songs and give them separate, "official" attention - but it in no way supersedes the original purpose of the site because it's a "side project." :)

    I consulted with an attorney (got 5 of them in the family, holidays are JUST LOVELY) a long time before I set this site up, and there's nothing illegal about writing music inspired or derived from another's work. If it were REMIXES -- the original audio with a new beat slapped on, for example -- it would not only be illegal but immoral, too, if we didn't ask first. But what we're doing here is interpreting the original song in a new and very changed form. IANAL, but I don't like being sued so I made sure I talked to people who are. OverClocked ReMix is in the same boat. I'm sure someone could disagree or be misinformed and bring a suit against either site, but before it came to that we'd probably skip the hassle in the first place and zap the song. Not likely, though. Us game composer types (I also freelance commercially) are usually laid-back and flattered by arrangements, as long as there's no money being made from them.

    Now, VGMUSIC.COM is another story entirely. They have nothing to do with us, but they are a fantastic resource for people who ARE with us. Vgmusic is a place where people submit General MIDI arrangements of game music, usually done by ear by a talented (or not) sequencer. It's like sheet-music transcriptions, just a database of music MIDI files. How is this a fantastic resource? Not everyone who arranges has the kind of ear that allows them to capture the melodies and harmonies by ear, so having a file that they can examine visually is a good thing for them.

    So, to sum up, we are well aware that we're not the first, we're just the first set up this way; we're not doing anything illegal, though we'll have to work hard to ensure that our system is not abused; and there are other sites in the game music community that can help us through cooperation. We're not so arrogant as to think we're movers and shakers, we're just guys who love game music and we're trying to provide place to share it that is unlike the others that already exist.

    It's a really tiny niche community but it's ...really fun.

    -j

  35. Re:First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like this better!

  36. Re:not legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What part of "these songs are NOT from the original soundtracks" do you not understand? There is no law that prevents anyone from offering for free their own *arrangements* of the musical works of others. Feel free to quote any specific legislation that proves me wrong.

  37. The original music... by SamMichaels · · Score: 2, Informative
    Just wanted to mention that Zophar's Domain has a *HUGE* collection of original soundtracks and music files from the games...in the original format (SPC, NSF, GYM, etc). Probably the largest and most complete console music collection around.

    If you don't know what it is...use the SPC as the example. SPC is the file format for an SNES sound file...extracted directly from the game. The player emulates the hardware, so it sounds EXACTLY like it does on the SNES.

    A few links:
    Links to the players are provided on the individual pages, but the best multi-console music player is Meridian Advance.

    When you get sick of remixes, check out the originals and remember your childhood :)
    1. Re:The original music... by RMSIsAnIdiot · · Score: 0

      Hah! For a second there I thought it said Zoltar...

      Made me wonder who would try to revive the tune from the Big fortune telling machine... (anyone who saw that movie would know, "It's not a video game!")

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    2. Re:The original music... by Whelkman · · Score: 2

      In case you're curious, Zophar is the super-villain from Lunar: Eternal Blue, but he doesn't have Zoltar's cool animating jaw.

  38. Best. Soundtrack. Ever. by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Grand Theft Auto London. Ska, mod pop, and DJ's from the swingin' 60's. Any game soundtrack that features the Upsetters wins, hands down. Sadly, not available at VGMix.com.

    1. Re:Best. Soundtrack. Ever. by caesar-auf-nihil · · Score: 2

      I disagree. I think the best Video Game Soundtrack ever was Outlaws. LucasArts had some absolutely awesome music for that game. Then again, like all music, I guess its a matter of taste. It was the Mexican Mariachi music on this game that got me hooked on Salsa and traditional Mexican music. I enjoyed this music because it really did fit with the game. Not available for VGMix.com either, but well worth the low cost of the game and just buying it yourself.

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  39. My vote by GigsVT · · Score: 2

    My vote for best audio in a C64 game is Frantic Freddy. I just hooked up my old C64 today, and after a little coaxing, I got frantic freddy to load up. That music still sounds just as good today as it ever did.

    It's really what got me hooked on classic rock. A 5th of Beethoven, Kodachrome, it's all great stuff. I hope that c64audio.com site has the MIDIs :).

    I'd have to say a close second is some of the audio in Jeff Minter's games. The bach intro to Sheep in Space is excellent.

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  40. Battlesquadron! by Otis_INF · · Score: 2

    The theme from Battlesquadron on the amiga is my all time fav. It's even more impressive when you know the composer just typed in hexnumbers in a texteditor :) I hope this site gets that tune up soon :)

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  41. cool stuff by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 2

    I was having a discussion the other day about this, how people of a certain age have emotional attachments to video game music, and sometimes it's hard to understand.

    One of my favorite labels is an online MP3-only label, Monotonik, they have some cool original chip tunes and some Mario remixes (here's one). Actually look around and there's lots of cool stuff for fans of IDM, electronic music, etc.

    Also of interest, there's a music machine that uses the sound chip from the C64 (that's Commodore 64, kids) with MIDI support.

    Also check out the Minibosses.

    Lots of this stuff around! I never played video games much but that stuff all managed to get stuck in my head anyway..

  42. Mod up parent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod up please. Those are good sites! Thank you for posting them.

  43. Not *exactly* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wanted to point out that emulated formats do not, and never will, sound "exactly" like the originals. Perfect emulation is impossible, and most Genesis emulators in particular sound very poor. Still, emulated formats are a great way to reexperience vintage game music, just so long as you understand that it may not be precise.

    1. Re:Not *exactly* by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      SOME genesis games come out sounding better than I remember. (Check out ANY of the Wolfteam/Telenet/Rennovation games, or Phantasy Star 2...4 sounds like it might be close as well)

      But others...

      Ever since Genecyst first came out, I've been using Thunderforce 3 to check how the sound emulation has progressed. No emulator has gotten that perfect yet. (Some can play the opening music right, and a few of the simpler pieces, but nothing has the G-lobster music down yet.)

      Did the Genesis have any analog components that make it impossible to get it perfect (like beyond-the-ability-of-the-ear-to-ever-tell-perfect )?

  44. I just got in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CANADA WINS! Fucking A! I knew we would beat your sorry yank, fuck your sister, and kill inocent people ass.

    Spent most of the day fishing and I came in to check the news and saw it. Its Beautiful. Wonderful.
    Almost as good as that morning I woke up to find that some oppressed victims of Uncle Sam's Brand of terrorism took down those 2 towers. Then managed to hit your MILITARY HEADQUARTERS!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

    You guys suck and the day that your shit hole country/society/holier-than-thou style of culture gets put in "historys unmarked grave of tyranny and opression"

    FUCK THE USA!
    /VIVA LA CANADA!!!

  45. Re:not legal by Jake+K · · Score: 1

    Thank --YOU-- very much, but I can tell you (and I don't think it gets any more authoritative than me as to the content of the site) that NONE of the original game music is linked to. We don't have it on our server, we WON'T have it on our server, and we don't provide links to it anywhere else. That "Download" button is to the ARRANGEMENT that the person made, not the original game audio. We provide links to vgmusic.com, zophar.net, and other places where you CAN get the original music in transcribed or "ripped" form, but we provide no such archive on OUR site and we'll never link to those sites that DO have "mp3 copies" of the original game soundtracks, which - I do agree with you - are illegal and often highly damaging to the original artists who are trying to turn a profit from their sale. Some day one of MY soundtracks will be for sale, and although it's inevitable, I'm not happy about some kid ripping it and posting it on his GaMe MuZiK WaReZ site. If someone arranged it though, spending HOURS composing a song inspired by it, I would be highly flattered. Even if I weren't, though, he has every legal right to do it. Let me use a whole separate paragraph for emphasis: This site hosts inspired/derivative arrangements, NOT THE ORIGINAL MUSIC. ANY original game music found on the site will be instantly deleted and possibly result in the removal of the infringing account! I understand your confusion, and I am actually thankful that you have tripped upon this issue because it will cause me to add a new FAQ item to clear up the confusion before it even starts. Any press is good press, though, I guess ;) So thank you. Cheers, -j

  46. Funny Mario Bros flash. Must see this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.seazbounty.f2s.com/misc/mario.swf

  47. Re:not legal by Jake+K · · Score: 1

    Just to clarify, the above post was in three paragraphs, but as I am Slashdot Inept(TM), it all got lumped together when I forgot to submit it as "plain text."

    Where it says "i'll devote a whole paragraph to this" should be a new paragraph, so read accordingly! This is very important! Innocent lives are at stake!

    -j

  48. Re:not legal by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 1

    Oh ok, glad that you're keeping it legal. :-) My apologies for misinterpreting your site, I thought this was yet another Slashdot posts copyright infringing article (ie this comment pointing to a warez site that nine different moderators somehow found informative). Things like this would give Slashdot a bad name, but as long as your site keeps things legal, then it's perfectly fine. :-)

  49. Streaming Video Game Music by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

    If you want to get more video game music, there is streaming mp3 video game music at Scene Music. They have reflectors around the world, so you should be able to listen to a stream near you. If your lucky enough to have a high speed dsl, try the 128K stream.

    BTW, Have you heard Giana Sisters lately?
    Old skewl test - mod.gianasisters or gianas.sid
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  50. we did this at work by oo7tushar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At companies they play radio music while they put you on hold. No different at our place. In fact the way most companies do this is to hook a radio directly into the phone line (they have a connector and all). Sometimes they hide it away in some corner where very few people visit. That is exactly where they hid it at our place (in the server room).
    So my buddy brought in his laptop and we hooked it right up to the phone line. For almost that entire day we were pumping out the Super Mario Brothers theme, some nice game remixes (like Speed Racer) and various other goodies. All good stuff that customers would like to listen to.
    We got away with it and we plan on doing it again =)

  51. days of youth? by RESPAWN · · Score: 2

    Also, if you're up for a bit of nostalgia, this is certainly the place to go to relive the days of youth when you hummed the Super Mario Bros. theme under your breath during class grade school.


    Well, I wouldn't quite say that listening to video game music has anything to do with my youth. Especially not with games like Dance Dance Revolution, Parappa the Rappa, and even Rez where the music is a very integral part of the game itself. I still go around humming the tunes to various video games every day. In fact, lately I've spent so much time in front of our (rather sizeable) collection of game consoles that I've probably heard more video game lately than I have "real" music. A good tune is a good tune, whether it was created for a video game or not.


    Although, I am not nearly as hardcore as one of my friends who based part of his decision to purchase a Turbo Duo on the fact that the music on all those games was so damn good. He was right about the quality of the music, though. I was simply amazed at the music compositions from games like Lords of Thunder and Cotton. In fact, in a side by side comparison of Cotton for the Turbo Duo and Cotton for the PSX, the music on the Turbo Duo version was hands down the winner. Video game music kicks ass, dammit!

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    1. Re:days of youth? by Sharadin · · Score: 0

      Yep, I agree with you there about the Turbo Duo/PC-Engine tidbit...out of all the systems I own from my youth, it is still hands down the best...mainly because of the music and the anime. How come NEC did it right, while all the others do it so poorly?

    2. Re:days of youth? by BlaKnail · · Score: 1

      In addition, you can pop a TurboDuo CD in a normal CD player and go through all the music tracks....so long as you skip track #1.

      My poor underappreciated TurboDuo.....

    3. Re:days of youth? by RESPAWN · · Score: 2

      In addition, you can pop a TurboDuo CD in a normal CD player and go through all the music tracks....so long as you skip track #1.


      Or, more specifically, you can pop a Turbo Duo CD in your computer, rip the tracks, and make a dedicated music CD from your games. :) I can't believe that I'd never played a Turbo Duo until now. My life is now complete. :)

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      If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

  52. megaman by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 1

    speaking of video game music... i think megaman had just about the most rokking synth music of any recent video game... recently, i was inspired to craft a song for a megaman game that (one day will / should have / never did) exist using an analog synth emulator and the Cubase sequencer...

    if you care to listen, download it here: Megamanic - 1.6 MB mp3 download

  53. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by drik00 · · Score: 1
    moderators, pull your head out and mod this up...

    i know its more fun to mod as offtopic or redundant, but, cmon.

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  54. like that's going to last by markj02 · · Score: 2

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but it looks to me like these are remixes that haven't been authorized by the copyright holders. I can't imagine that a media behemoth that does both music and video games, like Sony, is going to let this go on. Maybe they like the fact that fans are preparing the market, but once it starts making money, I bet they will send out their lawyers and want the market for themselves.

    1. Re:like that's going to last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, actually there are lots of comercial game companies that are making and selling videogame music arrangement CDs, Most noted are Konami, Capcom, Square, Tecmo, Namco, Sony, Nintendo, Sega and a hundred others. So they are making money on it. The difference with us is that we (the fans) are doing it for free and in tons of different styles. So don't worry your little head. Just sit back, make some tea and rice cakes and enjoy. ;)

      -JAXX

    2. Re:like that's going to last by Jake+K · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it DOES make money in Japan, and as a result, fan-made arrangements ARE illegal in most cases, if I'm not mistaken. This hasn't happened yet in the states, and I'm seriously VERY doubtful that the American popular music market is going to be very receptive toward video game music ...arrangements, seeing as game music soundtracks themselves don't even sell too well to begin with, over here.

      You have a very valid point in theory, but in practice it's just not panning out like that. American people as a whole don't seem to appreciate game music in the same way that Japanese people do, and while I'd like to kid myself into thinking that a few talented American composers can change that, it's just not happening yet. Game music is a cultural thing in Japan. Here, it's just seen as background noise by most people. There are the few for whom that's NOT true, and for them, there are many good import houses and then sites like this that can help satisfy their cravings.

      OverClocked ReMix has been around for two years and - unless I'm mistaken - has remained unmolested by legal professionals because it really ISN'T a money-generating market here in the US and so no copyright sparring has taken place.

      So.... Yes, it is going to last. Maybe not into the next decade, but for at least long enough to be remembered, absolutely.

      -j

  55. mod parent up, he is featured in the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    aren't the moderators paying attention? this post was by the guy in the article

  56. Outrun and 720 by Little+Dave · · Score: 1

    Hmmm... I remember when music in games was a huge thing. For me, the sole reason for wanting to buy a spectrum 128k over my perfectly adequate rubber keyed chum was the presence of the mighty sound chip (which sounds somewhat lacklustre in retrospect). Ahhhh, I still remember humming the tune to Spectrum Tetris for months on end! Arcades were yet another step up... C&VG once gave away a cassette (remember them, kids?) with the musics from Outrun and 720 arcade machines. Man, I must've to that tape till it broke! ("Skate or Dieeee!")

    Its not the same anymore... While I can happily hum the tune to Saboteur or Where Time Stood Still (from 15 years ago), I couldnt for the life of me tell you how the score of Medal Of Honour went (from 15 days ago!).

    Music is now just one of those things in videogames. Shame really.

  57. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm sure someone could disagree or be misinformed and bring a suit against either site... Not likely, though. Us game composer types... are usually laid-back and flattered by arrangements, as long as there's no money being made from them.

    But who normally owns the copyrights to video game music? If the game companies own them, it wouldn't really matter what the composers think. Do you keep the copyrights when you freelance?

  58. best remix site I've seen is... by knodi · · Score: 1

    http://remix.overclocked.org/
    They have some non-traditional
    remixes, too. Check out
    "Zelda, Music of My Groin".
    "Samba de Agua" is pretty awesome
    too.

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  59. mario brothers theme by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 1

    "....this is certainly the place to go to relive the days of youth when you hummed the Super Mario Bros. theme under your breath during class grade school."

    actually, i relive it fairly frequently... the new version of the same situation is hearing a blaring cellphone ringtone rendition of the theme song in the middle of a lecture at university.

    nokia butchers a classic... :/

  60. hmmmmmm by meth88 · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking of uploading a cool Windows Solitaire remix. Kind of a trance/house type thing.

  61. Nifty! by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    I wonder if any of the BM Remixes will ever get posted... ( IE a trillion Parnaoia Dirty Mix remixes, a few DJ uNF mixes etc)

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  62. Slashdot Launch All Your Sites? Now You Can!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember, using Slashdots' patented "it ain't new news, so who cares?" technology, you too can palm off any site you've done in the last 6 years as a newly launched digital nirvana...

  63. MIDI doesn't suck; replace the soundfont by yerricde · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I dunno, I'd rather hear an MP3 of someone playing actual music than listen to some dinky MIDI data running through a cheap wavetable chip or soundfont any day.

    So you're saying MIDI doesn't suck; your soundfont sucks. So don't replace the MIDI. Replace the soundfont, or use the MOD family of formats (.mod, .s3m, .xm, .it) that are similar to MIDI but include the soundfont in the file, but because the instrument samples are repeated over and over, it still remains at least an order of magnitude smaller than 128 kbps MP3.

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  64. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Jake+K · · Score: 3, Informative

    You also have a very good point, one that deserves some more attention. For anyone reading who does not know what we're talking about:

    A big point of contention in the freelancing community is the retention of copyrights. Generally the way it's done among beginners is that you sell your music and your rights for a flat rate, and then they "own" the music. However, once you get more into the business side of things and you start writing and revising your own contracts, or adding items to theirs with legal advice, you can switch it around so that you take a pay cut in exchange for the rights to the music.

    This is how Tommy Tallarico (a very popular game composer) has a mansion and several sports cars - and undoubtedly many Fly Bitches. The REAL money comes from licensing, franchising and -- for example -- the use of the same music, all for separate royalties, in a PS2, XBox, and Gamecube game, and then a soundtrack album, a television show, a Best-Hits-Games CD-Rom, a commercial excerpt, etc.

    That said, some companies who DO own the copyrights might decide to be a little more stringent about sites like this. However, Stateside, I've never heard of a company going after an amateur arranger who is not posing any financial threat to the company. The market for arrangement albums in the US is so amazingly sparse that it just doesn't make sense to throw money at interpreting copyright law to vilify fans who do this as a hobby. And yes, the law would have to be interpreted, as it's always been vague about derivative works. Based upon everything I've heard (from real, living lawyers) doing something like this for fun and COMPLETELY -not for profit- is totally legal.

    So, yeah. They could go after us. But that doesn't mean we've done anything wrong, it means they think we have. That's what the law is for. For now, though, it looks like we will remain unbothered by nasty letters just like other arrangement sites.

    -j

  65. Super Mario Bros. by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    Glad to know I'm not the only one who has the music from Level 1-1 in his head as he walks down the street... or the music from Level 1-2 as he walks down a dark ally.

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  66. Re: www.chiptunes.com by fferreres · · Score: 1

    It has quite a lot of s3m, mods and the like from C64 to console cames music. Top quality. It's better than an MP3 because all the music was tracked at that time, so this makes a lot of sense. They even duplicate artifact effects and the low quality synth generators :)

    I recommend it to anyone that's an old school gamer like i was in the happy days of computing...

    I specially recommend the COMMANDO (remember?) tune!

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  67. Try Inertia Player by yerricde · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Will any of these remixes be availible for my PC speaker?

    If you need to play MOD files on a PC with only the internal speaker, try Inertia Player for DOS. Turns out the PC speaker can play 1-bit waveforms using only the internal speaker; toggling that bit fast enough creates a sigma-delta DAC.

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  68. it's illegal by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 1

    These are mixes, not copies of the original artwork (i.e. variations or inspirations from the original piece.) Does that still make it illegal?

    remixes, in the music industry, are not done without authorization. if they -are- done without authorization, they are called "bootlegs". you can be sued for distributing bootleg remixes (that is, remixes without the permission of the original artist). even if you change genres, and add piles of reverb and flange to the main melody, if people still have a good chance of recognizing it and you don't have permission to remix it, you are breaking copyright laws. so yes, it is illegal. music inspired by other music is not illegal, though, i must add.

    where it gets blurry is with really tweaked out remixes that are completely different and almost impossible to identify. at that point, if it came down to a court case, the judge would have to make a...well... judgement, and you don't know who it's going to favour. it's a dangerous game. but the ones on that site are blatantly in violation. and a lot of them are really bad too :P

    1. Re:it's illegal by Jake+K · · Score: 2, Informative

      "music inspired by other music is not illegal, though, i must add."

      Perhaps I have not made myself clear.

      THESE. ARE. NOT. REMIXES.

      In fact, the only reason we called it "VGMix" is because "VGArrange" sounds awkward. Arrangements are something else ENTIRELY. They are a completely different type of interpretation. The only case in which copyright could pose a problem is if audio samples from the original song are used. Remember the whole MP3.com fiasco about using sampled material in songs? That was that.

      These songs that we have on our site do NOT use the original audio (there are exceptions, of course, but only in tiny snippets, samples. These are completely original, 100% from-scratch pieces of music that are only inspired or loosely melodically / chordally / rhythmically based on the original song. This is a hobby that must often be explained in-depth, but what it really is, down at the core, is composition practice. This is one of the reasons that midi-sequence repositories like vgmix.com come in handy - we're doing it all by ear!

      I'm sure I will have to repeat this over and over again over the course of this article's visible lifespan, but vgmix.com does NOT deal in remixes. It's about derivative/inspired works that are created completely by us. We just don't really have a great term for it, so some people call them "remixes" because it's catchy, even though it's completely inaccurate. I just go with "arrangements."

      -j

    2. Re:it's illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes, but a lot of them are really good too :D


      there will always be the bad, and from a perspective, most of it might be bad (especially if anyone can submit), but there are the few gems that really stand out and make it all worthwhile.

      -JAXX

    3. Re:it's illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      and thats why there is the "Panel" to give you a diversity of gems.


      (forgot to add :\)
      -JAXX

    4. Re:it's illegal by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 1

      The only case in which copyright could pose a problem is if audio samples from the original song are used.

      unfortunatey, you are just plain wrong on this point... did you know that it's illegal to publish a cover of someone else's song? yes that's right, you plucking your own strings but plucking them in the same way as someone else's song is still illegal. there are two kinds of rights for each piece of music... composition and performance. using audio bits is violating performance rights, as well as composition rights. imitating the melodic patterns in a sequencer is violating composition rights. it's not just about material specifics. it's about ideas. that's what copyright's all about, anyway.

    5. Re:it's illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First of all, don't be like "it's like that everywhere".

      I only know rights here in Austria/Europe, but I'm pretty sure this applies to US law as well. And over here, arranging is legal (actually, only THINKING of arranging being illegal is to some degree ridiculous). We aren't talking about covers. We aren't really talking about remixes either... although some people mix that term up with arrangement. We are talking about arrangements, because that's what they are (check vgmix.com's FAQ).

      Going by your logic, if you whistled some tune (maybe your favorite song) and recorded that, it would be illegal too.

      I know what you mean though. We aren't violating composition rights, because we do not claim it's our own composition. It's marked as an arrangement. It's a merge of the original composer's ideas and the arranger's ideas. Kind of like Sexual Intercourse/pregnancy on Artistic level.

      I see no way in which an arrangement hurts composition rights, since an arrangement does not claim to be an entirely new composition at all.

      - X-Sykodad

    6. Re:it's illegal by Goofy+Gavin · · Score: 1

      Going by your logic, if you whistled some tune (maybe your favorite song) and recorded that, it would be illegal too.

      yes, exactly. it would be illegal for distribution. ie, you could get in trouble for giving it away in mass quantities or selling it. it's true.

      actually, i don't care what you think. believe what you like. you can even try to market your album of whistled Beatles songs if you like. i won't stop you... just see if anyone minds :)

    7. Re:it's illegal by Jake+K · · Score: 1

      Well, I believe that you're mistaken in this particular context. But, because this is Slashdot, and because many people here will DIE trying to prove that they know more than you, I'm going to let it slide instead of arguing it into the ground - as I very well could. There's just more important stuff to focus on right now.

      I will continue to go with the pronouncement of the actual lawyers I have consulted over those of some random person on Slashdot. Please do not take this personally, because your viewpoint is intriguing and probably not entirely uncommon. :)

      -j

  69. [OT] Vetayase's Hi-Fi Gaming Page by Tofuhead · · Score: 2

    The now defunct Hi-Fi Gaming Page, once located at http://www-scf.usc.edu/~vetayase/, used to feature huge MP2 downloads and MIDIs back in 1997 or so. This is the site that introduced me to the wonders of MPEG audio. They had some killer remixes of rare games, along with some soundfont downloads, etc. I once got a sweet Super Mario Bros. waltz medley from that site, and I haven't heard it since my HD at the time crashed so many years ago.

    Jim Vetayase and the other guys who ran that site moved on to create another site, but I just don't know if that one is still around, and if so, which of the major sites it is. The old Hi-Fi page had a great library of cool stuff, and I'm still looking for that content 5 years later, with no luck. If anybody knows what happened to that site, and where those old downloads can be found nowadays, I'd love a heads-up reply.

    < tofuhead >

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  70. go on winmx for tetris remix MP3s by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative
    To get remixes of Tetris A-type music, go on winmx and search for any of the following:
    • Tetris
    • Korobeiniki
    • Korobeyniki
    • Korobushka
    Good ones include
    • Bond - Korobushka (and the rest of the CD Bond - Born, which isn't all Tetris related but still beautiful)
    • Dr Spin - Tetris
    • tetris boonch
    • The Wookies - Tetris (and) Limpopo - Korobeyniki (drunk russians singing the song)
    • Tetris OC (several overclocked.org remixes)

    Or just go to Russia2000 and get 'Korobeyniki' (which incidentally mixes perfectly from "Barbie Girl" by Aqua).

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  71. Re:What do you mean, UNUSED? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, you still play NES games? Do you relise how fucking old that tune is and how long it hasn't been used?

    It's been used. There's a remix of the SMB1 main theme plus underground theme: turn on Super Smash Bros. Melee, turn off sound fx, start a 1-player adventure game, and press Pause.

    Go buy the best gaming system out there, the XBOX

    You misspelled "GameCube."

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  72. And for virtual hosting? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    /var/log/apache/access.log is cheap and easy (since it's there by default).

    It's also unavailable unless you're paying a premium for dedicated hosting. What do you suggest for virtual-hosted users?

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    1. Re:And for virtual hosting? by peretzpup · · Score: 1

      What's informative about this exactly? It's no harder to log requests to a virtual host than a dedicated one.

  73. All Video Game Music Radio Show :: KSPC by Eharley · · Score: 1

    Those lucky enough to have heard Knut's Video Game Music Revue on KSPC (www.kspc.org)

    As the tag line goes, "The music of video games, from the 8-bit bleeps of yesteryear's classics to the high-tech music scores of today's popular games."

    Knut plays a wide range of video game music and doesn't limit himself to just transfers from games. He does play re-mixes, though usually for a request.

    Tune in Friday's at 10pm on the web or on your Claremont radio dial: 88.7

  74. Streets of Rage 2 by skilef · · Score: 1

    I just wanted to mention this Sega Megadrive game for its music, made by Yuzo Koshiro. As far as I'm concerned, this guy is a legend. Couldn't find much on VGmix though..

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    1. Re:Streets of Rage 2 by Jake+K · · Score: 1

      Site's just gone up this week. Give us a couple months. We'll have SoR and probably SoR2 stuff.

      FWIW, I agree with you, it's some of the finest music ever, and Yuzo Koshiro is my personal idol amongst Japanese game composers.

      I don't think there's ANYONE out there with the stylistic versatility and technical prowess that Koshiro has. He can do a fully orchestrated soundtrack (Actraiser) then move on to house/dance (SoR) then to fantasy/jpop/progressive stuff (Ys) without blinking, and do them all brilliantly and in a sound engine that he programmed himself. He should be a lot more revered than he is. :)

      -j

  75. Sega Genesis sound capability by yerricde · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ever since Genecyst first came out,

    Bloodlust's emulators (NESticle, Genecyst) are very dated.

    Did the Genesis have any analog components that make it impossible to get it perfect (like beyond-the-ability-of-the-ear-to-ever-tell-perfect )?

    The Genesis has a 6-channel Yamaha FM chip and a simple 4-channel tone generator similar to the ones in the Game Boy and NES. A typical game (such as Zero Wing or Sonic the Hedgehog) uses FM channels 1-5 for music, 6 for drum hits, tone generator channels 1-3 for simple 8-bit-style sound fx, and 4 for 8-bit hi-hats and explosions.

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    1. Re:Sega Genesis sound capability by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      Bloodlust's emulators (NESticle, Genecyst) are very dated.

      Well DUH. I thought it was obvious that I was suggesting that I'd been doing it for a while.

    2. Re:Sega Genesis sound capability by yerricde · · Score: 1

      Well DUH. I thought it was obvious that I was suggesting that I'd been doing it for a while.

      I'm just used to the NES emu lists where we routinely get messages such as "this ROM doesn't work in NESticle; therefore, it must be a bad dump" or "I wrote this ROM, but it only works in NESticle". My standard reply is "ditch NESticle; it's a very inaccurate emulator."

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  76. Addendum by Jake+K · · Score: 1

    "This is one of the reasons that midi-sequence repositories like vgmix.com come in handy"

    I really should read through the Preview carefully before hitting submit. I meant to type "vgmusic.com." That's the useful midi-sequence repository. We're the useful, rippling-biceps, incredibly-amazing-in-bed, low-sodium, definitely-not-illegal arrangement site. Thanks!

    -j

  77. The Minibosses by BigumD · · Score: 2

    The Minibosses also had a really cool contra mix that I could get down to. They did it with live instruments in a pop/punk kinda way. Some downloads at their site to check out:

    www.minibosses.com

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  78. PS1 soundtracks are usually CD Audio by iainl · · Score: 1

    GTA 1/London soundtracks may not be available online, but since the game has the music in uncompressed CDDA audio tracks, you can just slap the thing in the CD player and carry on regardless (don't play track 1, as its the data).

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  79. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Tofuhead · · Score: 1

    virt? The guy who did the Thong Song cover using a Game Boy sound chip emulator? Oh, hiya! ^_^

    Say, YOU wouldn't happen to know what happened to all the content from Jimmy Vetayase's site (the Hi-Fi Gaming Page from 1997 or so), would ya? Thanks.

    < tofuhead >

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  80. Another VG radio site by csana · · Score: 1

    RaddRadio also plays VG music

  81. Sierra Game Music by tangent3 · · Score: 1

    For those interested in Sierra games music (King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Quest for Glory, etc), there is a site specially dedicated for it at http://www.queststudios.com/quest/sierrap1.html

    1. Re:Sierra Game Music by El+Panda+Grande · · Score: 1

      On that same note, I think www.theunderdogs.org has music from old games, like sierra games.

  82. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Jake+K · · Score: 1

    YES! That is me. If you can't tell yet, I have ..really a twisted sense of humour, and enjoy doing things that nobody would "waste their time" doing. What good is skill if you just use it to do stuff everyone else does?

    I have no idea where that site went, either. I do remember seeing/hearing it way back when; I just got a "HEY WAIT" nostalgia buzz. If you find out, -please- fire off an e-mail and let me know. If you want more stuff like that Thong Song cover (I have a whole game boy page up) check http://virt.vgmix.com and get up to date!

    -j

  83. videogame music... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but even after 22 years I still cannot get that damned Pac-man opening level music out of my head. I also can recreate every sound from defender,stargate, and defender II (The last 2 are different games I've seen all 3 side by side)For some reason they dont get impressed at management meetings with that ability or like to see it on a resume.

    Super Mario Brothers? HA! By the time that came out they lost the ability to make infectious music.

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  84. Re:Video Game, Shmideo Games by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

    Big deal. There's been a C64 Remix site for years. It's not like this is a new idea.

    Incidentally, the best game music of recent years was in Legend of Mana on the PSX. Splendid stuff.

    Metal Gear Salad is good too. (Typo deliberate.)

  85. Generic, Minibosses do Instrumental NES Renditions by laxian · · Score: 2, Informative
    I've run into two bands that do instrumental renditions of NES bands. The Minibosses are very rock band and the now defunct Generic are almost folksy.

    Generic:
    http://www.2xtreme.net/zero-g/generic/sound.htm

    The Minibosses:
    http://www.minibosses.com/

    Guitar Tabs courtesy of Generic:
    http://www.2xtreme.net/zero-g/generictabs/

    BTW, If you want to hear the rest of the Generic songs ... they're not up because they're looking for webspace. Hint hint, nudge nudge.

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  86. Re:Video Game, Shmideo Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BWA-HAHAHAHA sorry had to laugh, couldn't help it. The big deal is, the fact that vgmix.com isn't limited to C64 arrangemens. The only limit is it has to be from a computer game/video game.

  87. RKO by apathyruiner · · Score: 1

    Don't have time to see if this is redundant, but I have to point out RKO as "The Def Guide to C64 remakes" that has been around for a couple years and boasts over 1000 Commodore 64 remixes, and it's constantly growing. There is an excellent community growing around the C64 remix scene, of which I am proud to be a part!
    (my mixes are under ruiner, download them many times and vote for me on remix64 ;)

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  88. OH for crying out loud. by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    Thank you for mentioning the Super Mario Bros. theme...i'm at work and suddenly I have that tune stuck in my head, and I haven't even heard it in over 7 years. Not only that, but I got that stupid ding in there from bumping the bricks to get the coins...thank you very much...doo do do DODODODoot. doot de doot de doot dedootdedoot...

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  89. Sinclair Spectrum Music by pastie · · Score: 2

    There is a player for the original music from Sinclair Spectrum and Amstrad CPC games, called ``aylet'', here. There is an XMMS plugin being developed for this too, here.

    Mmmmmm, Bubble Bobble.... doo doo doo doo dooooo, doo doo doo doooo...

    ;)

  90. M.U.L.E. by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    I'd like the theme to mule, please, good enough quality so I can drive around town with it cranked up. :)

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  91. I can't believe noone has pulled out this quote... by bquinn · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."

    -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 (supposedly, see here for details)

  92. Purchasing gamemusic by Carnivore24 · · Score: 0

    Check out http://www.gamemusic.com Here you can purchase tons of game music CDs from games like Final Fantasy 1, Metal Gear, Castlevania and even the Zeldas.

  93. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by psychonaut · · Score: 2, Informative
    [T]he law would have to be interpreted, as it's always been vague about derivative works. Based upon everything I've heard (from real, living lawyers) doing something like this for fun and COMPLETELY -not for profit- is totally legal.
    Well, then, you need to get some better lawyers. No, the law is not vague about derivative works. Releasing derivative works without the author's permission, whether or not you are doing it for profit, is most certainly illegal under US and Canadian law, and probably also in any other country which is a Berne convention signatory. (The "I'm not doing it for profit so it must be OK" defence is one of the biggest myths about copyright law.) See the Circular on Derivative Works by the US Copyright office.
  94. I'm not seeing them here, by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

    so I might as well throw in a few links:

    Everyone - a vg music tribute band.
    Evil Adam - Check out "Zerg Must Die" & "Evil de Chocobo"

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  95. More Arrangement Goodness by dilbert627 · · Score: 1

    Be sure to also check out Project Majestic Mix, which is a arranged tribute album to Nobuo Uematsu of Final Fantasy fame. It features music from all the Final Fantasy games, plus Chrono Trigger and Front Mission: Gun Hazard. Very cool stuff. Project Majestic Mix

  96. C64 Music on real instruments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out PRESS PLAY ON TAPE. They've released a CD with various C64 covers (Commando, Ghosts'n Goblins, Monty on the Run, etc.), and have a version of Out Run available for download at remix.kwed.org.
    This isn't a series of techno-rave-remixes - this is rock music!

  97. You mean... by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 1

    Mp3's we can download without fear of prosecution? This has got to be a /. first...

    Nah, it's no fun to download music when you can't get a horde of lawyers to try to stop you...

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  98. Anyone interested in the music for Karateka? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

    I converted the end game music for Karateka into music notation and made a midi file.

    Email me if you want it.

  99. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Whelkman · · Score: 2

    Virt? The guy who just adores Trax in Space and that punk melvyl? ;)

  100. Theme Music by SkewlD00d · · Score: 2

    Duke Nukem 3D has the best theme music, hands down.

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  101. Re:What do you mean, UNUSED? by HCase · · Score: 1

    You misspelled "Decent Computer."

  102. Re:What do you mean, UNUSED? by Xerithane · · Score: 2

    Forget about Super Smash Bros - my cell phone ringer is the Super Mario Brother tune, surprising enough I have actually met some pretty good looking girls because of that - it's a rare novelty and *everyone* loves SMB. And I do in fact still play the original NES. And SNES.

    Nothing beats Tetris, Zelda, and Super Mario Kart.

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  103. Anyone have music to the Darius arcade game? by zrk · · Score: 1

    Great fun, cool look and good music.

    No one seems to have it.

  104. School daze? by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    The only video game sounds that I had growing up was pong! Blip. Blip. Blip. Wasn't much of a tune. I guess that means I am getting old? lol.

  105. Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jake, you're killing me!

    There is not a more talented living composer than Yoko Kanno. Yes, Yuzo was good, but he's produced some crap too. SOR3 wasn't any good and he made his own game for the Saturn and no one ever heard the music for that.

    Yoko Kanno wrote music for KOEI and now writes for Anime. IMO, she's the Mozart of our time. She's a musical genius and she can do rap to orchestral to music styles she's invented herself. She's even compososed lyrics in languages that don't exist.

    http://kanno.simplenet.com. Check it out. And check out Tank! from Cowboy Bebop. Awesome jazz.

    1. Re:Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! by Jake+K · · Score: 1

      No, I meant for game music, not for anime, which is where Kanno has primarily based her career. If you want to branch out, there are plenty of people in other areas of the music industry with that kind of versatility. Kanno DEFINITELY has it, and is unbelievably brilliant - but she has done very little video game music in comparison, and it wasn't very great game music. Her anime soundtracks are some of the best ever, but it's hard to place her NES music over that of Koshiro. Legacy of the Wizard is hard to top.

      -j

    2. Re:Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! Yoko Kanno! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jake...I'm glad you've heard of her. However, I disagree. I think her game stuff is some of her strongest. Did you ever hear Uncharted Waters II? (New Horizons)...and even though you would think that all the Genghis Kahn and Romance stuff would be Far Eastern sounding, songs like Blue Whitecaps end up being rather new agey. She also did an album recently called Song to Fly, which was for a game that never made it out here. Also she did Napple Tale for the DC.

      I'm glad you've heard of her, though.

  106. Funny!!! by spack · · Score: 1

    Who knows if this is a real quote, but it's hillarious.

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  107. Stratosphere - Cover Band by LionKimbro · · Score: 2

    I've heard of a band called 'stratosphere' or something in SF, CA, that does video game covers. Can anyone tell me about them? I don't think I have the name quite right.

  108. Transformers and OGG by abdulla · · Score: 1

    What about that site with the cool transformers techno, they had soundwave talking and it all remixed, now that was coool. And I want my music in OGG!!! Damn it! I guess it's because 1.0 final isn't out yet :(

    1. Re:Transformers and OGG by tlotoxl · · Score: 1

      i have an ancient transformers song up at mutagene.net. it's quite dated, the melody has nothing to do with the transformers, but you might enjoy it for the cheesy Omnicron/Megatron/Starscream interplay anyway. sorry it's an mp3, but it was made in 1996/7...

  109. Gameboy music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a lot of good music being done out there with custom made Gameboy sequencing programs. Still a big Amiga tracking scene as well.

    http://rolemodel.spoiledbrat.net/
    http://www.lo fimusicrevolution.com/
    http://www.mp3.com/budmelv in
    http://www.mark4.net
    http://www.8bitpeoples.c om/index_IE.html
    http://www.teamtendo.net/#
    http ://www.micromusic.net/

    Noone may see this, but enjoy.

  110. And in other news.... by MoneyT · · Score: 1

    ... sega, nintendo, sony, atari and numerous smaller video game manufacturers have filed suit to have a court injuncture aainst this new "Napsterization of music." A spokes person says: "Copywrites also protect against performances of the music without payment, and since we don't sell the music explicitly, they haven't bought it."

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  111. (ot)Charging extra to view the logs by yerricde · · Score: 1

    What's informative about this exactly? It's no harder to log requests to a virtual host than a dedicated one.

    No harder for the hosting service, but yes harder for the customer. Some hosting services charge customers extra to be able to view the logs.

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  112. La Samba De Agua by Mustin · · Score: 1

    thanks so much for mentioning my arrangement. that means a lot to me. come find more of my tracks at the link below

  113. what, no Minibosses? by JayDoggy · · Score: 1


    these guys do some rockin' covers as well. I especially love their version of the Contra level music.

    mmm, Contra.

  114. Re:VGMix.com: The long and the short (okay, the LO by Leven+Valera · · Score: 2
    I consulted with an attorney (got 5 of them in the family, holidays are JUST LOVELY)

    So, did your Christmas presents have license agreements inside the wrapping? Was there litigation filed over dinner?

    LV
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