Just out of curiosity, what mechanism does Linux use to do this?
The same one that Apple did 20 years ago. The same one that Microsoft bagged 15+ years ago. The some one discussed in the article.
If you're asking how it does it without "training", then you could read some of the other posts for solutions. Easiest being when the user clicks on the drive and there's a floppy in there, remember which flag meant a disc is there and do it from then on. Not perfect at first, but for the rest of the time (assuming no hardware change) it will be. If there's a hardware change, then remember that flag instead.
No. 3.0 was a pretty good release (for it's time). HOWEVER, it was more of a "super bug fixed with some really nice features thrown in" version of the 2.* series. With 4.* they changed everything, scrapped what had come before and started with a clean slate. 3.* was just super stable version of 2.*.
2.*, on the other hand, could be seen as a 4.0. It was a complete rewrite from scratch, new thing compared to 0.* and 1.*.
I'm no developer so I have no real idea about the similarities or differences from that perspective, I've just been using KDE since 0.8.(something).
Yes, *if* you leave the stupid pointless unnecessary Aero Glass nonsense turned on. I suppose you use the Fisher-Price-esque theme in Windows XP too?
A) It is turned off.
B) No. I do prefer the Zune theme, but no to answer the question.
One theme for normal user accounts, one for domain admin, and one for non-domain admin accounts
How are you doing this? Are you doing it with scripts? I'd really like to know, that's a very good idea.
resource-intensive UI theme
It's deeper than that. I could bring up it's stellar file copy performance to start a list of things wrong with Vista, but I won't. I guess by my (and half of the planet's) saying "Vista's slow" only means "the UI is too slow", then I may just not get heard. I dunno. I don't know you, I don't know where you stand on the reality of "Vista's slow".
Vista ended the year with 21% of the desktop, up 8% in from February.
[..]
But those who are in the market are most buying Vista.
And what's the "Forced Upgrade" percent in that? I bought a new laptop in June. It shipped with Vista. Am I in that 21% even though I've booted to it a grand total of 6 times and haven't booted to it since August or so? I "bought" a Vista license, but only because I was forced to.
I tried to return my Vista license. Circuit City, after having to call two or three other Regional Managers (not the lowly multi-store supervisors, corporate managers) told me they refused to give me the money owed for a Vista License. I showed the Store Manager the EULA that states in the very first paragraph that I can return it to the store of purchase for a full refund. They refused to honor it. They said I had to go to Microsoft. After calling Microsoft three times (their server kept hanging up on me...), told me they wouldn't honor it since it states I have to go to the store of purchase.
Guess what. Circuit City, after I told them all that, told me "O-Well" (yes a direct quote), and hung up.
So now I'm in the 21% of Vista License holders?!? Pfffft... That's just corporate spreadsheet fixing...
Well, Vista isn't that horrible, it's just that it's a little slower
??? A "little". I have a dual-core 2.5Ghz laptop with 3G RAM (and a 7200 RPM 320G Drive). Id' say it's roughly half the speed of XP. I'm not saying my laptop is some major Speed Daemon or something, but with specs like that it should soar. It doesn't. I haven't booted to it since the summer sometime (I only keep the partition there so if I have to send the thing in for work, I can back up my Linux side out of and stretch the NTFS partition back out so it looks like it did when they shipped it)
And, yes, I 100% agree, there was no need to go to Vista from XP-SP3 (or SP2 at the time). XP has ended up maturing quite well. It only took them 6 or so years to get there, but they did (sort of). One of my favorite quotes about XP came from this very site:
"Windows XP - While easily the best OS they've released so far, that's not really saying much. That's like being the smartest kid on the short bus. --sYkSh0n3 (722238) Oct 23, '07"
[...]companies were hoping to make a buck by not only selling new hardware units, but also save money by not having to support the older versions of Windows.
Which is basically what I was saying, just from a slightly different perceptive. Companies happily dumped their old stuff because of all the $$ they, in the past, were damn near guaranteed when the drove of drones went out to Wally World to get the next version of Windows. That didn't happen and could very well not happen this time (especially given the state of the economy in the US anyway...).
That's all I was saying. You said it in a way that made a bit more sense, the first time through though.:-)
Ok, but that doesn't explain why companies like Create dropped support for older products and created new ones to sell to the unsuspecting public.
Geesh, if I didn't notice your fairly low UID, I would've guess your to be around 15 or so going on that statement.
They dropped the old support because they (and many other companies) expected to the masses to keep trudging the Microsoft Treadmill and go out and buy Vista in droves just like they did for 98 & XP. As we all know, that didn't happen. People weren't enticed by the "Oooo! Look! Flipping Windows and a tiny Start button!" like Microsoft and friends assumed they would. People haven't even gone out to buy Microsoft's "Mojave" like they were supposed to either, for that matter.
Personally, I'm going to find things very interesting when VII actually hits the streets. Will the masses jump? Are the masses just as tired of dancing the Redmond Slide like most of us/. type folks are?
Perhaps you're confusing Open Source with Cross Platform.
And for it to be made into a Cross Platform code tree, the source would have to be completelyopen which is not how Microsoft is publishing this stuff. Just because the code is (supposedly) available, doesn't make it open. There's a big difference there.
wasn't OS/2 great for digital phone systems in the 90s and early 2000s
Indeed.
At a previous company I worked for, our voice mail system was ran by an OS/2 machine. Microsoft's OS/2. When you typed "ver" that's what it said. "Microsoft OS/2" (and some version and copyright info I don't remember anymore). And in classic Microsoft fashion, it wasn't y2k compliant. After the turn of the millennium, I would have to dig through a calendar to find a year that matched up with 2000, 2001, 2002, etc.
When I left there in late '03, it was still running strong.
I can honestly say I don't know the state of it these days. The company is still there in a small suite in a corporate park. I've can only imagine that thing is still running...
(I'm not taking your post as an attack, even though it kinda came off sounding that way...)
I'm sorry every game doesn't blow your mind.
And that's why I specificly named the ones that did (among a couple others that I didn't mention)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein had the best AI enemies
Doom3 is the first FPS to ever consistently make me jump as I played it at night
I can do nothing but agree here! That's why I named those games; they were done VERY well. RTCW and Q3A still get a lot of play on my machine.
And I fail to see how you, linking to _your-own-post_
Because I didn't feel like typing it out again...:)
video card was under powered and you didn't know it before hand by your own admitted failed assumption, constitutes a "rocky start" for doom3. According to your post, you were in line the day it came out. If you buy a game, pushing a new graphics engine, on the day it comes out, your aging video card might not be good enough.
And I was far form the only one that ran into that. IIRC, A lot of gamers were pretty upset about it's performance (Google's not being kind to me this evening, it's showing me all the Doom 3 stuff from/. except for the launch-day story...:\ ).
At any rate, yea, my card was aging, yea I didn't expect to play the game at 1280x1024 / 32bit color / trilinear on a GF-4600. People have been lobotomized for thinking saner things, I think. But when a lot of the people buying that game ran into the same issue, I'd call that a "rocky start". It didn't last long. People upgraded their cards pretty quick, though. I hadn't the choice. Doom 3 (and Jedi Academy via Cedega) revealed that the fan on the GF-4600 had died and eventually burned itself up...
Well, blame the dumbshit gamers who keep making it profitable for ID/Raven to pump out the same derivative shit over and over and over and over again.
Other than the "style" in which this was written, why is this marked "Troll"?!? The person is right. It's the same thing over and over coming out of the gaming industry.
That said, would I buy another Wolf3d? Yea, probably. I bought the original and the "addon" 5 missions (I never did get Spear of Destiny, though), then Doom, then Doom2, RTCW, Doom3, etc. I've rather liked id's work from the very start. Doom3 was a rocky start, but it's OK these days. I guess it's not "ground breaking", but it's a departure from the norm.
I guess that's the best we can hope for these days; a departure from the norm.:\
Forget about it's tainting your view, don't let it taint his.
WISE WORDS!
I do not. He likes (or liked - I'm not sure which these days) Jar-Jar. I have not pointed out how damn silly, childish, and down-right stupid that character is. I don't want to ruin his view of the saga for him.
I did point out to him, when he and I were talking about all the parts we like about the new Indy movie, the brief parts in the begining with the dumb giggling prairie dogs were too out of place in an Indy move. I said that I felt it seemed a bit kid-ish for an adventure movie like that. He said that he saw my point, but still thought it was funny. I agreed that it was funny, just out of place. To that he agreed. We both still like the film.
I did also point out that it's impossible for someone to bounce a few hundred feet locked in a refrigerator and actually survive, though...
See it drunk. That'll bring out the 5 or 6 year old in you!:-)
That's what it took to get myself through watching the Mike Myers version of The Cat In The Hat when my Son "made" me take him to see it. A Dasini bottle of vodka.
I don't drink anymore these days, though. I, somehow, have to watch this new Star Wars 100% sober...:\
What is all this talk "it's for kids"? Last I checked episodes 4-6 were NOT completely suited for kids.
Nor did I even hint at that. New Hope and Empire were not "made for kids". After it turned out there was a huge kid following, Retun of the Jedi threw in enough stuff (Ewoks, '3PO flying, that damn laughing thing that hangs out with Jabba, etc.) for kids to laugh at and look forward to during the "boring parts" (all the story stuff us more, (cough) adult (cough), types were seeing it for. (though I was only a "kid" for the original three, I was seeing it for the story)
How come Pixar can make animated movies for KIDS and ADULTS?
You answer that best yourself: Lucas sucks! He just sucks. He took a perfectly good storyline and threw it in the trash.
I think this one is indeed more for kids. I know my Son (9 years old) is near ape-shit about going and seeing this opening day. I'm a bit skeptical about it. It'll be nice to see another new Star Wars film, but at the cost of no real story / character development / etc., I don't know if I want this to taint my view of the Star Wars saga.
I was only 5 or 6 the first time I saw A New Hope in the theater. Indeed, as many, I was blown away and it changed the way I pictured "space" and all that. That side comment to ObiWan from Luke of "You fought in the Clone Wars?!?" in "Ben's" hut was always a very interesting thing to me. "What were the Clone Wars?" "What are the Clones?" (it was never really said the Stormtroopers were all colones and certainly no hint of them being of Bobba's Dad). I wasn't until Ep2 that "The Clone Wars" was really brought into the story and it was very little more than a passing mention in that movie. Ep3 kind of touched a bit more on it, but not really. With this movie we're supposed to see more of the struggle of the Clone Wars. I say struggle because it more about the story behind the battle. The battle we've seen (well, bits and pieces), but we've seen it. We haven't seen the story of it.
I hope it's not as bad as this reviews are making it out to be. Since 1977 I have had huge thoughts and dreams about these half-mentioned "Clone Wars". I hope this is it.
Star Wars put him on the map. Raiders made him a household name!
Indeed. I could've been a bit more clear in my initial response. I was just trying to point out that he was far from unknown from the mid to late 70's on, as the OP was suggesting (or at the very least, prior to Raiders).
Imagine how pissed someone get's when they buy a game and find it runs like crap on their pc.
Like when I stood in line to buy Doom 3 the morning it came out only to get the thing home to find out that my 2.4GHz machine with a GeeForce-4600 would barely run the menu screen at 640x480 @ 16bit color (bilinear). Hell I had RTCW cranked up to (near) max levels of display on that machine.
How old are you? Or, what planet are you from? Harrison had already done two of the three Star Wars films and a couple other things that were very popular, even at that time. He was very well known.
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The same one that Apple did 20 years ago. The same one that Microsoft bagged 15+ years ago. The some one discussed in the article.
If you're asking how it does it without "training", then you could read some of the other posts for solutions. Easiest being when the user clicks on the drive and there's a floppy in there, remember which flag meant a disc is there and do it from then on. Not perfect at first, but for the rest of the time (assuming no hardware change) it will be. If there's a hardware change, then remember that flag instead.
Because Apple isn't able to arrange kick-backs from beige box companies (Dell, HP, etc.).
Hefty Minimum Requirements == New Hardware == More Hardware Sales.
Business 101
No. 3.0 was a pretty good release (for it's time). HOWEVER, it was more of a "super bug fixed with some really nice features thrown in" version of the 2.* series. With 4.* they changed everything, scrapped what had come before and started with a clean slate. 3.* was just super stable version of 2.*.
2.*, on the other hand, could be seen as a 4.0. It was a complete rewrite from scratch, new thing compared to 0.* and 1.*.
I'm no developer so I have no real idea about the similarities or differences from that perspective, I've just been using KDE since 0.8.(something).
A) It is turned off.
B) No. I do prefer the Zune theme, but no to answer the question.
How are you doing this? Are you doing it with scripts? I'd really like to know, that's a very good idea.
It's deeper than that. I could bring up it's stellar file copy performance to start a list of things wrong with Vista, but I won't. I guess by my (and half of the planet's) saying "Vista's slow" only means "the UI is too slow", then I may just not get heard. I dunno. I don't know you, I don't know where you stand on the reality of "Vista's slow".
And what's the "Forced Upgrade" percent in that? I bought a new laptop in June. It shipped with Vista. Am I in that 21% even though I've booted to it a grand total of 6 times and haven't booted to it since August or so? I "bought" a Vista license, but only because I was forced to.
I tried to return my Vista license. Circuit City, after having to call two or three other Regional Managers (not the lowly multi-store supervisors, corporate managers) told me they refused to give me the money owed for a Vista License. I showed the Store Manager the EULA that states in the very first paragraph that I can return it to the store of purchase for a full refund. They refused to honor it. They said I had to go to Microsoft. After calling Microsoft three times (their server kept hanging up on me...), told me they wouldn't honor it since it states I have to go to the store of purchase.
Guess what. Circuit City, after I told them all that, told me "O-Well" (yes a direct quote), and hung up.
So now I'm in the 21% of Vista License holders?!? Pfffft... That's just corporate spreadsheet fixing...
??? A "little". I have a dual-core 2.5Ghz laptop with 3G RAM (and a 7200 RPM 320G Drive). Id' say it's roughly half the speed of XP. I'm not saying my laptop is some major Speed Daemon or something, but with specs like that it should soar. It doesn't. I haven't booted to it since the summer sometime (I only keep the partition there so if I have to send the thing in for work, I can back up my Linux side out of and stretch the NTFS partition back out so it looks like it did when they shipped it)
And, yes, I 100% agree, there was no need to go to Vista from XP-SP3 (or SP2 at the time). XP has ended up maturing quite well. It only took them 6 or so years to get there, but they did (sort of). One of my favorite quotes about XP came from this very site:
Which is basically what I was saying, just from a slightly different perceptive. Companies happily dumped their old stuff because of all the $$ they, in the past, were damn near guaranteed when the drove of drones went out to Wally World to get the next version of Windows. That didn't happen and could very well not happen this time (especially given the state of the economy in the US anyway...).
That's all I was saying. You said it in a way that made a bit more sense, the first time through though. :-)
Geesh, if I didn't notice your fairly low UID, I would've guess your to be around 15 or so going on that statement.
They dropped the old support because they (and many other companies) expected to the masses to keep trudging the Microsoft Treadmill and go out and buy Vista in droves just like they did for 98 & XP. As we all know, that didn't happen. People weren't enticed by the "Oooo! Look! Flipping Windows and a tiny Start button!" like Microsoft and friends assumed they would. People haven't even gone out to buy Microsoft's "Mojave" like they were supposed to either, for that matter.
Personally, I'm going to find things very interesting when VII actually hits the streets. Will the masses jump? Are the masses just as tired of dancing the Redmond Slide like most of us /. type folks are?
And for it to be made into a Cross Platform code tree, the source would have to be completely open which is not how Microsoft is publishing this stuff. Just because the code is (supposedly) available , doesn't make it open . There's a big difference there.
Indeed.
At a previous company I worked for, our voice mail system was ran by an OS/2 machine. Microsoft's OS/2. When you typed "ver" that's what it said. "Microsoft OS/2" (and some version and copyright info I don't remember anymore). And in classic Microsoft fashion, it wasn't y2k compliant. After the turn of the millennium, I would have to dig through a calendar to find a year that matched up with 2000, 2001, 2002, etc.
When I left there in late '03, it was still running strong.
I can honestly say I don't know the state of it these days. The company is still there in a small suite in a corporate park. I've can only imagine that thing is still running...
How does one do that? (Seriously I'm asking the question) Is it sored in a predictable place where you can
dd if=/dev/zero of=[this header]
?
I'll correct that:
It seems it's new.
And that's why I specificly named the ones that did (among a couple others that I didn't mention)
I can do nothing but agree here! That's why I named those games; they were done VERY well. RTCW and Q3A still get a lot of play on my machine.
Because I didn't feel like typing it out again... :)
And I was far form the only one that ran into that. IIRC, A lot of gamers were pretty upset about it's performance (Google's not being kind to me this evening, it's showing me all the Doom 3 stuff from /. except for the launch-day story... :\ ).
At any rate, yea, my card was aging, yea I didn't expect to play the game at 1280x1024 / 32bit color / trilinear on a GF-4600. People have been lobotomized for thinking saner things, I think. But when a lot of the people buying that game ran into the same issue, I'd call that a "rocky start". It didn't last long. People upgraded their cards pretty quick, though. I hadn't the choice. Doom 3 (and Jedi Academy via Cedega) revealed that the fan on the GF-4600 had died and eventually burned itself up...
The Olympics, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
Other than the "style" in which this was written, why is this marked "Troll"?!? The person is right. It's the same thing over and over coming out of the gaming industry.
:\
That said, would I buy another Wolf3d? Yea, probably. I bought the original and the "addon" 5 missions (I never did get Spear of Destiny, though), then Doom, then Doom2, RTCW, Doom3, etc. I've rather liked id's work from the very start. Doom3 was a rocky start, but it's OK these days. I guess it's not "ground breaking", but it's a departure from the norm.
I guess that's the best we can hope for these days; a departure from the norm.
WISE WORDS!
I do not. He likes (or liked - I'm not sure which these days) Jar-Jar. I have not pointed out how damn silly, childish, and down-right stupid that character is. I don't want to ruin his view of the saga for him.
I did point out to him, when he and I were talking about all the parts we like about the new Indy movie, the brief parts in the begining with the dumb giggling prairie dogs were too out of place in an Indy move. I said that I felt it seemed a bit kid-ish for an adventure movie like that. He said that he saw my point, but still thought it was funny. I agreed that it was funny, just out of place. To that he agreed. We both still like the film.
I did also point out that it's impossible for someone to bounce a few hundred feet locked in a refrigerator and actually survive, though...
That's what it took to get myself through watching the Mike Myers version of The Cat In The Hat when my Son "made" me take him to see it. A Dasini bottle of vodka.
:\
I don't drink anymore these days, though. I, somehow, have to watch this new Star Wars 100% sober...
Nor did I even hint at that. New Hope and Empire were not "made for kids". After it turned out there was a huge kid following, Retun of the Jedi threw in enough stuff (Ewoks, '3PO flying, that damn laughing thing that hangs out with Jabba, etc.) for kids to laugh at and look forward to during the "boring parts" (all the story stuff us more, (cough) adult (cough), types were seeing it for. (though I was only a "kid" for the original three, I was seeing it for the story)
You answer that best yourself: Lucas sucks! He just sucks. He took a perfectly good storyline and threw it in the trash.
:-)
I think this one is indeed more for kids. I know my Son (9 years old) is near ape-shit about going and seeing this opening day. I'm a bit skeptical about it. It'll be nice to see another new Star Wars film, but at the cost of no real story / character development / etc., I don't know if I want this to taint my view of the Star Wars saga.
I was only 5 or 6 the first time I saw A New Hope in the theater. Indeed, as many, I was blown away and it changed the way I pictured "space" and all that. That side comment to ObiWan from Luke of "You fought in the Clone Wars?!?" in "Ben's" hut was always a very interesting thing to me. "What were the Clone Wars?" "What are the Clones?" (it was never really said the Stormtroopers were all colones and certainly no hint of them being of Bobba's Dad). I wasn't until Ep2 that "The Clone Wars" was really brought into the story and it was very little more than a passing mention in that movie. Ep3 kind of touched a bit more on it, but not really. With this movie we're supposed to see more of the struggle of the Clone Wars. I say struggle because it more about the story behind the battle. The battle we've seen (well, bits and pieces), but we've seen it. We haven't seen the story of it.
I hope it's not as bad as this reviews are making it out to be. Since 1977 I have had huge thoughts and dreams about these half-mentioned "Clone Wars". I hope this is it.
But it is a "new" Lucas movie...
Spot on! The GF4600 I had at the time was not the greatest card out, but it certainly was no slouch either. I assumed it would work fine with Doom 3.
I guess we know what happens when we make an assumption.
Indeed. I could've been a bit more clear in my initial response. I was just trying to point out that he was far from unknown from the mid to late 70's on, as the OP was suggesting (or at the very least, prior to Raiders).
Yea, all for Windows.
I will say Doom 3 ran even worse on the Win* side of the machine than it did with Linux/Cedega.
Once the native Linux port came out, the game was quite playable on Linux.
Like when I stood in line to buy Doom 3 the morning it came out only to get the thing home to find out that my 2.4GHz machine with a GeeForce-4600 would barely run the menu screen at 640x480 @ 16bit color (bilinear). Hell I had RTCW cranked up to (near) max levels of display on that machine.
Grumble grumble...
How old are you? Or, what planet are you from? Harrison had already done two of the three Star Wars films and a couple other things that were very popular, even at that time. He was very well known.
Hint: