I think you're either trolling, making bad jokes, or just un-informed (tm).
I thought the beauty of Linux was that it _didn't_ need weekly fixen because the registry got messed up.
Beside the obvious troll of the registry comment (since there isn't one), Yea. For the most part, you are exactly right. No one is perfect. There are "oops" things that make it's way into ANY program on ANY platform. We all know who is the leader in that department, however...
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what do you do if the box breaks in such a way that you can't SSH to it anymore?
Ummm... he makes a road-trip home and gets a non Ramen Pride or TV dinner meal for a change? And depending on his parents, he might get a couple free beers out of the deal too. I see nothing wrong in the whole situation.:-)
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One of the gripes people have with Linux is that they can't go about installing and tweaking, which they can on Windows.
Damn, now it really looks like I did feed a troll... Aside, it doesn't even sound like you even use "Linux". OK, so let's say that the system is THAT messed up and needs to be "re-installed" (I've only had that situation twice, but that was about 5 years ago or so when I was a totall *NIX n00b (tm)), the OP sounds like he has a pretty decent brain in his head. I HIGHLY doubt that his Dad would lose anything. That's *WHY* you put/home on a different mount point (or better yet, another physical drive. I learned my lesson on that one this past summer when a Drive died...). You just re-install and don't format/home. Bingo. 45 mins later (depending on your distro) you're back up and running and have lost NOTHING. Not even your choice of screen saver or color sheme or anything minor like that that the (L)users look for when they re-install Windows. Try that trick on Win*. It's not possible.
I'm not saying "Linux" is perfect, and I'm not saying KDE is either (my personal prefered desktop), but what I'm saying is that it's really hard to beat. I think only Apple can wear that crown (man I wish I could afford a Jaguar box...). And... oh... wait... It's *NIX based now. Hmmm... I guess that leaves BillyG all alone now... (just a personal kick:-) ).
I have to reboot my work PC every few days, and I lose 15 mins waiting for it to come up.
Days?!? Dude, and I'm not exagrating, I have to reboot my XP machine every few hours most days. I hibernate it to take it home at night, but usually still endup rebooting when I bring it out of hibernation in the morning.
This Linux (Gentoo / KDE3.1) box has been running for the better part of a month (I rebooted to test one of Linus' dev kernels).
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If you have two or more machines in the house, and you don't have a separate box as an internet gateway / fileserver / printserver etc, you don't know the convenience you're missing.
I couldn't agree with you more, brother. And especially when that gateway / fileserver / printserver is running a tight (and REAL!) firewall and a fast as hell machine (meant as REALLY low overhead), it's really nice. My parents are finding this out. Long story short, When I lived there, My machine was the Gateway, et al. Now that they have a dumb '98 machine that they use to dial-out to teh internet, they are really starting to see all the shit that most Win* users (and myself and other *NIX heads talk about) that Win* users think is "normal". All teh net send spam that's going around, all the pop-ups, the mails spam, etc. If I had a spare macine (that I don't use for beating up testing distros and such...:-) ), I'd slap it in the basement over there so they can go back to being secure, as well as reduce the annoyance factor, again. They had to reinstall '98 this past weekend apperently. This is the 3rd or 4th time in about as many weeks. heh...
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You're not using the same as what everyone else is using. This is the biggest problem.
I don't know that I agree with this. So Someone IM'ing me some.VBS file won't run on my Gentoo box? Boy, that does suck...:-)
I don't know how massive of a site you run, but check these folks out. I've been with them a few years now, and have been nothing but happy. YMMV, of course.
Dude, the space is SUPPOSED to be there. It's a "slashcode" feature. It prevents the page-widening-trolls from doing their thing (but I've noticed a way around it, acutally...)
I would suggest to just learn a tiny bit of HTML and "embed" an anchor if you want to post a link over 20 or so characters.
Please. This is no longer funny. It was funny the second time, and maybe even a third (if someone didn't drink enough beer), but a fourth is pushing it a bit too far.
Please refrain from further re-posting of this.
Thank you.
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why the hell are they putting a damn GUI on a SERVER anyway?
I agree with this 100% I want my servers to be as optimized as possible. So let's say that I have servers sitting around in a closed place. Why in the hell do I need them wasting resourses on pretty icons and such? I try to tell people about *NIX.
"oh you mean that old thing that is text only?"
is the usual response. "Yea, and" then a click on my KVM "this is [insert UNIX varient here] too" (and a very pretty KDE interface appears).
With MS boxes, you don't even have that option. I'd probably get a *TON* more life and performance of of my MS boxes if I didn't *HAVE* to run the GUI crap that is constanly cashing the boxes I have.
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :
Example \Ex*am"ple\, n. [A later form for ensample, fr. L.
exemplum, orig., what is taken out of a larger quantity, as a
sample, from eximere to take out. See Exempt, and cf.
Ensample, Sample.]
1. One or a portion taken to show the character or quality of
the whole; a sample; a specimen.
I've always ended up with butt-fugly dialogs, which are wholly independant of the Window Manager.
OK, I'll slightly agree. Some "decorations" and "styles" aren't for everyone. That's why we have a choice of what we want to use/see.
Aside, this is NOT X that you're complaining about. X has nothing to do with it. Your argument is that there is (two things):
No "singular" "look" for a *NIX box.
This is not true. RedHat and Mandrake have worked on that. Use them if you don't understand what a "widget set" is or what enviroment the various ones apply to.
No "singlular" "style" that you like.
Well, then create one that you do like. Upload it to KDE-Look and see if people agree with you.
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Please don't take this as a flame, as it's not meant as one. It's just growing very obvious you really don't know what you're talking about.
P.S.
And yes, I do agree that the "major" desktops (Gnome and KDE) get together and find a way for this to be a LOT easier for Joe Six-Pack...
The design of X11, and its current implementation, allows for too many different dialog styles and interfaces - it's not standardized
What in the world does this have to do with X? That's the job of the various Desktop Enviroments / Window Managers, not X.
If you're complaining that there are several different ways of doing things *and have the choice between them* and are also finding that freedom a problem, go back to Windows. BillyG will be glad to have you back.
I bought the Pro-Pack. Yup, I dropped $80 bucks (US) on it only to find out that when I went to update it, it totally b0rked itself. Nice. Oh, I had to DL the new RPM manually, and install that. OK, not that big a deal, I was used to RPM hell at that point. Oh, well there were 20 or so dependencies for that dependency. Err... well, 30 or so to get those dependencies of the dependencies installed cleanly. Oh, well, I still had to hack at some config files. Well, but that really wasn't enough since I still had to re-update somethings. I'd love to watch "Joe Six-Pack (tm)" do that.
I switched to Gentoo.
Perhaps SuSE 8.1 is better. I honestly don't know, and to be quite frank, I don't intend on finding out. Portage is FAR superior to YAST.
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I think you're either trolling, making bad jokes, or just un-informed (tm).
:-)
/home on a different mount point (or better yet, another physical drive. I learned my lesson on that one this past summer when a Drive died...). You just re-install and don't format /home. Bingo. 45 mins later (depending on your distro) you're back up and running and have lost NOTHING. Not even your choice of screen saver or color sheme or anything minor like that that the (L)users look for when they re-install Windows. Try that trick on Win*. It's not possible.
:-) ).
:-)
I thought the beauty of Linux was that it _didn't_ need weekly fixen because the registry got messed up.
Beside the obvious troll of the registry comment (since there isn't one), Yea. For the most part, you are exactly right. No one is perfect. There are "oops" things that make it's way into ANY program on ANY platform. We all know who is the leader in that department, however...
~~~
what do you do if the box breaks in such a way that you can't SSH to it anymore?
Ummm... he makes a road-trip home and gets a non Ramen Pride or TV dinner meal for a change? And depending on his parents, he might get a couple free beers out of the deal too. I see nothing wrong in the whole situation.
~~~
One of the gripes people have with Linux is that they can't go about installing and tweaking, which they can on Windows.
Damn, now it really looks like I did feed a troll... Aside, it doesn't even sound like you even use "Linux". OK, so let's say that the system is THAT messed up and needs to be "re-installed" (I've only had that situation twice, but that was about 5 years ago or so when I was a totall *NIX n00b (tm)), the OP sounds like he has a pretty decent brain in his head. I HIGHLY doubt that his Dad would lose anything. That's *WHY* you put
I'm not saying "Linux" is perfect, and I'm not saying KDE is either (my personal prefered desktop), but what I'm saying is that it's really hard to beat. I think only Apple can wear that crown (man I wish I could afford a Jaguar box...). And... oh... wait... It's *NIX based now. Hmmm... I guess that leaves BillyG all alone now... (just a personal kick
Thanx for the time to rant.
I have to reboot my work PC every few days, and I lose 15 mins waiting for it to come up.
:-) ), I'd slap it in the basement over there so they can go back to being secure, as well as reduce the annoyance factor, again. They had to reinstall '98 this past weekend apperently. This is the 3rd or 4th time in about as many weeks. heh...
.VBS file won't run on my Gentoo box? Boy, that does suck... :-)
Days?!? Dude, and I'm not exagrating, I have to reboot my XP machine every few hours most days. I hibernate it to take it home at night, but usually still endup rebooting when I bring it out of hibernation in the morning.
This Linux (Gentoo / KDE3.1) box has been running for the better part of a month (I rebooted to test one of Linus' dev kernels).
~~~
If you have two or more machines in the house, and you don't have a separate box as an internet gateway / fileserver / printserver etc, you don't know the convenience you're missing.
I couldn't agree with you more, brother. And especially when that gateway / fileserver / printserver is running a tight (and REAL!) firewall and a fast as hell machine (meant as REALLY low overhead), it's really nice. My parents are finding this out. Long story short, When I lived there, My machine was the Gateway, et al. Now that they have a dumb '98 machine that they use to dial-out to teh internet, they are really starting to see all the shit that most Win* users (and myself and other *NIX heads talk about) that Win* users think is "normal". All teh net send spam that's going around, all the pop-ups, the mails spam, etc. If I had a spare macine (that I don't use for beating up testing distros and such...
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You're not using the same as what everyone else is using. This is the biggest problem.
I don't know that I agree with this. So Someone IM'ing me some
though I uninstalled it quickly for Debian because apt-get just rocks.
man urpmi
(although I do have to agree on apt. Portage is just as wonderful as well.)
it certainly is being repeated on a rather common basis.
I grew very afraid of that very thing after the 3rd or 4th posting. I'm seeing a 'new' "In Soviet Russia", "A Beowulf Cluster", etc., kinda thing.
Taco, that was a really bad idea...
Basic gameplay is there, but the fun stuff doesn't work...
/me shrugs.
What doesn't work/known bugs:
* Windows port doesn't exist yet
Yea, so?
Little comments like that simply make the 99% of who don't use distros like Gentoo like you even less.
Curious.
You knew what I was talking about without me even mentioning a distro...
emerge nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel
BR It's been that easy for quite a while now.
They charge through the nose for everything...
I don't know how massive of a site you run, but check these folks out. I've been with them a few years now, and have been nothing but happy. YMMV, of course.
So were you gonna leave it at that and not:
for us and post it somewhere?
That was maybe two years ago but i still get a code red or nimda attack on my apache every 10 minutes!
Not to mention that God damn Klez bug STILL going around in droves...
That's mail bug, I know, but it just goes to show how messed up a lot of their applictions (and their (L)users) really are.
Dude, the space is SUPPOSED to be there. It's a "slashcode" feature. It prevents the page-widening-trolls from doing their thing (but I've noticed a way around it, acutally...)
I would suggest to just learn a tiny bit of HTML and "embed" an anchor if you want to post a link over 20 or so characters.
If you want to buy a Ford F150 and chop it down into the shape of a giant shoe
SHOE? Dude, build a Landspeeder!
Come on, it's funny.
It WAS funny.
Didn't you know? OS X is merging with XP.
Isn't that where M$ got most of their code from anyway?
That is absolutly funny as all hell that I got modded "0, Redundant"!
:-) )
Thank you moderators, whoever you are! You helped with the joke!
(seriouly, thank you! That was the reaction I was looking for!
And yet there are three BSDs mentioned...
Hmmm...
Free
Open
Net
And which does Apple use? And what OS has Taco seemed to have switched to?
That leaves only two that "suck".
Someone PLEASE tell me why I'd want to buy a clone of BillyG. Please. I just can't figure it out.
Please. This is no longer funny. It was funny the second time, and maybe even a third (if someone didn't drink enough beer), but a fourth is pushing it a bit too far.
Please refrain from further re-posting of this.
Thank you.
Everyone wish me a happy birthday
No.
why the hell are they putting a damn GUI on a SERVER anyway?
I agree with this 100% I want my servers to be as optimized as possible. So let's say that I have servers sitting around in a closed place. Why in the hell do I need them wasting resourses on pretty icons and such? I try to tell people about *NIX.
"oh you mean that old thing that is text only?"
is the usual response. "Yea, and" then a click on my KVM "this is [insert UNIX varient here] too" (and a very pretty KDE interface appears).
With MS boxes, you don't even have that option. I'd probably get a *TON* more life and performance of of my MS boxes if I didn't *HAVE* to run the GUI crap that is constanly cashing the boxes I have.
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :
Example \Ex*am"ple\, n. [A later form for ensample, fr. L. exemplum, orig., what is taken out of a larger quantity, as a sample, from eximere to take out. See Exempt, and cf. Ensample, Sample.]
1. One or a portion taken to show the character or quality of the whole; a sample; a specimen.
we learned at skool
Looks like you need to go back and take Internet%20Lingo%20?101 again. It's spelled sk00l not skool.
OK, I'll slightly agree. Some "decorations" and "styles" aren't for everyone. That's why we have a choice of what we want to use/see.
Aside, this is NOT X that you're complaining about. X has nothing to do with it. Your argument is that there is (two things):
No "singular" "look" for a *NIX box.
This is not true. RedHat and Mandrake have worked on that. Use them if you don't understand what a "widget set" is or what enviroment the various ones apply to.
No "singlular" "style" that you like.
Well, then create one that you do like. Upload it to KDE-Look and see if people agree with you.
~~~
Please don't take this as a flame, as it's not meant as one. It's just growing very obvious you really don't know what you're talking about.
P.S.
And yes, I do agree that the "major" desktops (Gnome and KDE) get together and find a way for this to be a LOT easier for Joe Six-Pack...
The design of X11, and its current implementation, allows for too many different dialog styles and interfaces - it's not standardized
What in the world does this have to do with X? That's the job of the various Desktop Enviroments / Window Managers, not X.
If you're complaining that there are several different ways of doing things *and have the choice between them* and are also finding that freedom a problem, go back to Windows. BillyG will be glad to have you back.
SuSE8.0? You're kidding, right?
I bought the Pro-Pack. Yup, I dropped $80 bucks (US) on it only to find out that when I went to update it, it totally b0rked itself. Nice. Oh, I had to DL the new RPM manually, and install that. OK, not that big a deal, I was used to RPM hell at that point. Oh, well there were 20 or so dependencies for that dependency. Err... well, 30 or so to get those dependencies of the dependencies installed cleanly. Oh, well, I still had to hack at some config files. Well, but that really wasn't enough since I still had to re-update somethings. I'd love to watch "Joe Six-Pack (tm)" do that.
I switched to Gentoo.
Perhaps SuSE 8.1 is better. I honestly don't know, and to be quite frank, I don't intend on finding out. Portage is FAR superior to YAST.
This is just my opinion.